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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2015.06.01 20:18:00 -
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PS4.
Microsoft is far too... intrusive with the server.
PC, well not all of us PS3 players can move to PC, nor are they ready to switch from cpntroller to keyboard.
Just hit PS4, get near PC performance, keep the guys from PS3, and pull some over from PC.
Intaki - Civire
Caldai State!
"Democracy is lies of freedom. Anarchy is it's truth."
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
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Posted - 2015.06.01 21:35:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Why aren't we talking about this more? Legion obviously flopped..dust on PS3 is barely alive the only real chance we have is on ps4/PC..I'd like it on ps4 then I could play it on my vita..Rat its time to stop leaving us in the dark...you've done an amazing job so far so why not tell us your plans for a port or do you not have any plans to port it? I'm one of the oldest players here and I'm not ready to give up on dust but I'm way more than ready to give up on the ps3
Hell I'd even go for Xbox one over PS3... We aren't talking about it because it is a waste of time and bits.
First the game is running on Unreal Engine 3+. To move forward you would need Unreal Engine 4. It is a significantly better product and even though it was announced in 2005 it never made it to the PS3. The move to any different engine would require significant work. UE3 to UE4 alone has massive scripting differences, they are not compatible. So all the in game work is a rewrite.
The recent system change at CCP has allowed a simpler art asset pipe line. That doesn't mean that will easily translate everything in game to work on any other system. Better than the old system, yes. Easy, no.
Dust514 is profitable now. Because they cut the staff to the bone. CCP Rattati volunteered to take on this project and, even though we disagree 50% of the time, he has done a remarkable job. However, the staff available to him to do the port simply isn't there. Adding staff will make Dust514 back into a money losing project. And that would be the death of it.
So, give it up. Until CCP Rattati works out a magical solution (he might) or makes enough profit (he won't) to fund the port Dust is staying where it is.
And please don't mention MSFT again. They charge $40k to update a game. Yep, any release that touches the client software is yet another $40k hit and your profit just got a lot thinner. Plus, in the original effort MSFT wanted all purchased items to go through their store, not just AUR and packs. Their attitude changes on the perceived value of the game (think Minecraft before they bought it) and Dust doesn't have any real value.
We are scraping by, count your blessings.
My favorite tank is a Lightning. Just sayin.
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.06.02 04:05:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Why aren't we talking about this more? Legion obviously flopped..dust on PS3 is barely alive the only real chance we have is on ps4/PC..I'd like it on ps4 then I could play it on my vita..Rat its time to stop leaving us in the dark...you've done an amazing job so far so why not tell us your plans for a port or do you not have any plans to port it? I'm one of the oldest players here and I'm not ready to give up on dust but I'm way more than ready to give up on the ps3
Hell I'd even go for Xbox one over PS3... We aren't talking about it because it is a waste of time and bits. First the game is running on Unreal Engine 3+. To move forward you would need Unreal Engine 4. It is a significantly better product and even though it was announced in 2005 it never made it to the PS3. The move to any different engine would require significant work. UE3 to UE4 alone has massive scripting differences, they are not compatible. So all the in game work is a rewrite. The recent system change at CCP has allowed a simpler art asset pipe line. That doesn't mean that will easily translate everything in game to work on any other system. Better than the old system, yes. Easy, no. Dust514 is profitable now. Because they cut the staff to the bone. CCP Rattati volunteered to take on this project and, even though we disagree 50% of the time, he has done a remarkable job. However, the staff available to him to do the port simply isn't there. Adding staff will make Dust514 back into a money losing project. And that would be the death of it. So, give it up. Until CCP Rattati works out a magical solution (he might) or makes enough profit (he won't) to fund the port Dust is staying where it is. And please don't mention MSFT again. They charge $40k to update a game. Yep, any release that touches the client software is yet another $40k hit and your profit just got a lot thinner. Plus, in the original effort MSFT wanted all purchased items to go through their store, not just AUR and packs. Their attitude changes on the perceived value of the game (think Minecraft before they bought it) and Dust doesn't have any real value. We are scraping by, count your blessings. So keep us in the dark or wait till 90% of players have moved on ? I just want to know whether this game is still worth my time and money or just another mag repeat
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Adan Montano Pietsch
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.06.02 04:22:00 -
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How about we wait for Legion instead?
Which Faction am I loyal to, you ask? The real question is, which one is paying the most?
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.06.02 04:27:00 -
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Adan Montano Pietsch wrote:How about we wait for Legion instead? Can we have word about legion? Is it still going? Are they still gonna transfer our stuff? What's the plan? I can wait I just hate being left in the dark, what's the game plan..
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Archduke Ferd1nand
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.06.02 04:38:00 -
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Not even kidding CCP: If you need help with the coding for a port, I am willing to help free of charge.
Thats how much I want this game going onto PS4.
BRB, looking for socks
PSN: tommygunboy2080
I shit shotgun shells and piss Remote Explosives
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ZED Regent
Acid Tech. 303
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Posted - 2015.06.02 05:01:00 -
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Bumpin' to ps4.... (cuz my pc is crap....)
A baseline for today? How about an acidbassline!
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
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Posted - 2015.06.02 05:10:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Why aren't we talking about this more? Legion obviously flopped..dust on PS3 is barely alive the only real chance we have is on ps4/PC..I'd like it on ps4 then I could play it on my vita..Rat its time to stop leaving us in the dark...you've done an amazing job so far so why not tell us your plans for a port or do you not have any plans to port it? I'm one of the oldest players here and I'm not ready to give up on dust but I'm way more than ready to give up on the ps3 Whenever I have asked "why isn't CCP even saying 'we are looking into it'?", it immediately does what this thread has done:
"PC Master Race!" "No! PS4!" "PC is more better because of EVE!" "No Legion failed because of PC!"
It becomes a pissing contest to see who can yell "MY SIDE IS BETTER!" and the larger question of "why isn't CCP being more open with whether they intend DUST to continue past the PS3?" gets completely ignored. As to that question, there are a few possibilities:
1. They don't want to announce anything, even a "hmm, that might be a good idea", until they are locked in on what they are going to do. 2. They think any kind of transition is going to be seen as much of a failure as Rouge Wedding. "We said we were transitioning, they screamed at us." (Note, people actually screamed at how poorly this information was handled) 3. They are truly not sure if they want to continue with DUST. DUST on the PS3 is profitable; CCP could decide to just run out the clock on the PS3 and earn a little bit of money. Reinvesting into a game that has had super mixed reviews is risky. 4. The second they announce "we are thinking about transitioning", the forums will ignite into what system it should go to. 5. The second they announce "we are transitioning to X", everyone who does not have an X will immediately stop playing the game. I don't have a PS4 and don't intend to have one. If CCP announced "we are going to PS4", my interest in the game would likely evaporate. Same goes for people that are in the other boat labeled "I don't have a PC that could run it."
This is a super s*** situation we are in that only has one way of ending happily.
"We at CCP would like to announce that we have entered a deal with Sony. We are going to continue our business arrangement in regards to DUST 514. You are going to keep your character names, your Corporations, your faction standings, your SP, and a limited amount of items (we are still working on this but at the moment it is only aurum items, boosters, warbarge components, and skins/BPO's). Now that we have that out of the way...
DUST 514 is transitioning from the PS3 to the PS4 AND PC. You will be able to choose which system you wish to play and we are supporting Cross Platform Play. Finally, console players and PC players can hash out their differences by shooting each other with hot plasma!"
I hope the above announcement happens one day. I hope that they are working on the above right now, trying to make sure everything is in order before they drop that bombshell.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.06.02 05:15:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Why aren't we talking about this more? Legion obviously flopped..dust on PS3 is barely alive the only real chance we have is on ps4/PC..I'd like it on ps4 then I could play it on my vita..Rat its time to stop leaving us in the dark...you've done an amazing job so far so why not tell us your plans for a port or do you not have any plans to port it? I'm one of the oldest players here and I'm not ready to give up on dust but I'm way more than ready to give up on the ps3 Whenever I have asked "why isn't CCP even saying 'we are looking into it'?", it immediately does what this thread has done: "PC Master Race!" "No! PS4!" "PC is more better because of EVE!" "No Legion failed because of PC!" It becomes a pissing contest to see who can yell "MY SIDE IS BETTER!" and the larger question of "why isn't CCP being more open with whether they intend DUST to continue past the PS3?" gets completely ignored. As to that question, there are a few possibilities: 1. They don't want to announce anything, even a "hmm, that might be a good idea", until they are locked in on what they are going to do. 2. They think any kind of transition is going to be seen as much of a failure as Rouge Wedding. "We said we were transitioning, they screamed at us." (Note, people actually screamed at how poorly this information was handled) 3. They are truly not sure if they want to continue with DUST. DUST on the PS3 is profitable; CCP could decide to just run out the clock on the PS3 and earn a little bit of money. Reinvesting into a game that has had super mixed reviews is risky. 4. The second they announce "we are thinking about transitioning", the forums will ignite into what system it should go to. 5. The second they announce "we are transitioning to X", everyone who does not have an X will immediately stop playing the game. I don't have a PS4 and don't intend to have one. If CCP announced "we are going to PS4", my interest in the game would likely evaporate. Same goes for people that are in the other boat labeled "I don't have a PC that could run it." This is a super s*** situation we are in that only has one way of ending happily. "We at CCP would like to announce that we have entered a deal with Sony. We are going to continue our business arrangement in regards to DUST 514. You are going to keep your character names, your Corporations, your faction standings, your SP, and a limited amount of items (we are still working on this but at the moment it is only aurum items, boosters, warbarge components, and skins/BPO's). Now that we have that out of the way... DUST 514 is transitioning from the PS3 to the PS4 AND PC. You will be able to choose which system you wish to play and we are supporting Cross Platform Play. Finally, console players and PC players can hash out their differences by shooting each other with hot plasma!" I hope the above announcement happens one day. I hope that they are working on the above right now, trying to make sure everything is in order before they drop that bombshell. I was thinking that too...I guess after 4+ years I'm sad that it could all end...this is the only game I've truly enjoyed hours upon hours And never got tired of it
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.06.02 06:17:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Why aren't we talking about this more? Legion obviously flopped..dust on PS3 is barely alive the only real chance we have is on ps4/PC..I'd like it on ps4 then I could play it on my vita..Rat its time to stop leaving us in the dark...you've done an amazing job so far so why not tell us your plans for a port or do you not have any plans to port it? I'm one of the oldest players here and I'm not ready to give up on dust but I'm way more than ready to give up on the ps3
Hell I'd even go for Xbox one over PS3...
A Nextgen Port will only be a temporary solution at best. These consoles are already 2 to 3 years old with their hardware already being 5 years or so old. And a nextGen Version would just hold the game back again. So please don't do it CCP. Bring it to PC and be done with it. A game which is changing as fast as Dust needs a platform that can keep up with these changes. And the only platform which can do this is the PC.
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General John Ripper
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Posted - 2015.06.02 09:51:00 -
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They should bring back legion.
Vote Donut. Blue Donut. Kane Spero for CPM2
I hate wil wheaton.
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Immortal John Ripper
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Posted - 2015.06.02 09:51:00 -
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They should bring back legion.
Vote Donut. Blue Donut. Kane Spero for CPM2
I hate wil wheaton.
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.06.02 10:09:00 -
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Dust ps4 legion PC... Then we get both players and cross platform play
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Damodred Matari
Heavy Support INC
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Posted - 2015.06.02 12:06:00 -
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Faquira Bleuetta wrote:sony will not allow a game with a revolutionary unique sandbox mmofps bcuz no one will play their ****** game called planetside 2 .
SOE a while back became daybreak games.
Invalid.
Shut fi yuh mout before mi bax yuh
Thank you for playing the wheel of fortune.
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YUUKI TERUMI
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.06.02 12:13:00 -
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Well, ps4/pc is obviously better because it would be more open source and more people could play it
Minmatar and Gallente logi, Minmatar and Gallente scout, Minmatar and Amarr assault. Most of all, Mithril Forge hater.
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castba
Rogue Instincts
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Posted - 2015.06.02 12:22:00 -
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How about the next Nintendo machine?
"When everything is OP, nothing is" - CCP Ratatti
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Clone D
Solo Zen
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Posted - 2015.06.02 12:31:00 -
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You left out the keyword NAO from the title. If you don't put that in, then they won't do it right now. |
ZED Regent
Acid Tech. 303
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Posted - 2015.06.02 14:59:00 -
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Clone D wrote:You left out the keyword NAO from the title. If you don't put that in, then they won't do it right now.
doesn't work on my gf though...
A baseline for today? How about an acidbassline!
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thor424
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.02 15:30:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:A PC port has been in progress for well over a year now.
We haven't heard **** about it, but it's what we've got. The last time a dev said anything about PS4, they said they have no plans to port to a console, because PC is easier to develop on.
When they announced it at FF 2014, they'd been working on it for at least 6 months. Enough to have a playable demo. That would be over 18 months ago and not a word.
If you believe Legion is still being worked on, well I'm not really sure what else to say without being mean.
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se7enSAINTSVII
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Posted - 2015.06.02 15:41:00 -
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dust will not benefit much from just a port to next gen it needs a new name to receive a new game rating currently 4/10 if i am right which is terrible. legion would allow them to gain a greater score enticing new customers, the rating of the companies game will also dictate if Sony will want it to be represented by a game.
im all for the PS4 why port a game exclusive to the PS3 to a PC = Stupid
BendNOVA or Be Sliced and Diced
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REDBACK96USMC
NORTH K0REA
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Posted - 2015.06.02 15:57:00 -
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I honestly do not get what the hold up is for this. The programming is very similar to PC these days and porting has been simplified by PS and Microsoft both. Now from PS3 to those, maybe not. But still, c'mon man!
If they were to stop developing this version and say all resources are going to a next gen development effort, I would probably be inclined to drop some cash while toughing out the rest of this versions life. |
Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:29:00 -
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REDBACK96USMC wrote:I honestly do not get what the hold up is for this. The programming is very similar to PC these days and porting has been simplified by PS and Microsoft both. Now from PS3 to those, maybe not. But still, c'mon man!
If they were to stop developing this version and say all resources are going to a next gen development effort, I would probably be inclined to drop some cash while toughing out the rest of this versions life. Yeah same here..
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:33:00 -
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I'm ok with either PC or PS4.
However, for the sake of convenience, I would go with the PS4 because there are a lot of established PSN account holders here who can benefit from this while saving CCP the hassle of having to carry over PSN account information over to the PC.
PS: PlayStation Plus does not require paying money for online multiplayer if the game is free-to-play.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. RUST415
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Posted - 2015.06.02 20:02:00 -
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I don't care which way they go -- PS4 or PC. I'd play the crap out of it.
As it is now, with a dwindling playerbase, it needs to move or it will die.
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Lady MDK
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.06.02 21:14:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Why aren't we talking about this more? Legion obviously flopped..dust on PS3 is barely alive the only real chance we have is on ps4/PC..I'd like it on ps4 then I could play it on my vita..Rat its time to stop leaving us in the dark...you've done an amazing job so far so why not tell us your plans for a port or do you not have any plans to port it? I'm one of the oldest players here and I'm not ready to give up on dust but I'm way more than ready to give up on the ps3
Hell I'd even go for Xbox one over PS3... I vote gamecube
Too modern. I hear the acorn atom has a decent cpu and amount of ram.
Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following.
I don't care so neither should you :)
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4lbert Wesker
Mithril Forge E-R-A
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Posted - 2015.06.02 21:24:00 -
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Archduke Ferd1nand wrote:Not even kidding CCP: If you need help with the coding for a port, I am willing to help free of charge.
Thats how much I want this game going onto PS4.
No,no,no and no.I want to wait our "famous" scrubs with my keyboard and mouse.No more controllers,controlers are not for FPS games,anyone who says it is,he is a console peasant.Come on,i want to face those lolvets with my long year Battlefield/CS/CoD experience,and that's why you scrubs want it to be ported on that lousy,already outdated box full of ****. Scrubs are afraid getting rekt against professionals behind the mouse and keyboard.
Public skirmish = camping games,
Public domination = officer sniping games,
Public ambush = russian roulette
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thor424
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
340
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Posted - 2015.06.02 21:47:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:I don't care which way they go -- PS4 or PC. I'd play the crap out of it.
As it is now, with a dwindling playerbase, it needs to move or it will die.
And it would be too bad if it died, Dust is an awesome game.
They have to have a better idea of the player numbers than we do. I'm convinced the numbers are really, really low considering people logging in on alts for their labs. There's no telling how many of the logins you see are on for less than a few minutes.
I'm not able to play much at the moment, but last week was pretty bad. FW was busy, but I've heard that's dying down. I love what they are doing with Dust at the moment, but it seems they need to make an announcement soon or people are going to take it as a sign that it's going to die on the PS3.
I'm not sure how fun Dust is going to be if the numbers shrink much more.
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Mex-0
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.06.02 21:48:00 -
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PS2, maybe iPad
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.02 22:24:00 -
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PC or at the very least, PS4. Dude I want to see this game on current gen!!
Saying what's on people's minds
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.06.03 01:59:00 -
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4lbert Wesker wrote:Archduke Ferd1nand wrote:Not even kidding CCP: If you need help with the coding for a port, I am willing to help free of charge.
Thats how much I want this game going onto PS4. No,no,no and no.I want to wait our "famous" scrubs with my keyboard and mouse.No more controllers,controlers are not for FPS games,anyone who says it is,he is a console peasant.Come on,i want to face those lolvets with my long year Battlefield/CS/CoD experience,and that's why you scrubs want it to be ported on that lousy,already outdated box full of ****. Scrubs are afraid getting rekt against professionals behind the mouse and keyboard. I r@pe most of you with a controller not to mention I've had a TFCC tear for the past year...had surgery a week ago....so yes wait for the kbm and when I heal the QQ will be amazing =ƒÿê kbm= EZ mode
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