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Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 10	Posted - 2015.06.05 14:58:00 - [1] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Dust 514 is declining now, and when you go below peak 1000 active players its going to decline rapidly (Source: Any other game that declines below 1000 active). I really hope CCP is going to present the Plan B soon. The CEO of CCP is in Shanghai right now. I wonder if that is a sign of some movement. @Ripley_Riley "I NEED NO PILLS I'M A FUCKING GOAT!" - Cat Merc
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 11	Posted - 2015.07.13 22:02:00 - [2] - Quote Skihids wrote: Star Citizen, though still in Alpha, promises to be a true "One Universe" game with the same character piloting capitall ships, one man fighters, and fighting hand to hand all in first person. The FPS module of Star Citizen has been placed on hold indefinitely... https://www.polygon.com/2015/6/30/8871167/star-citizens-fps-module-delayed-indefinitely Skihids wrote: If you were CCP and looking at it from a fiscal perspective what would you decide? PC would expand my audience and offer more flexibility with development. Get Dust 514 into a balanced, stable state to be ported then pull the trigger. There is still a place for a New Eden FPS. @Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley on Skype!
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 11	Posted - 2015.07.13 22:11:00 - [3] - Quote Louis, Horizon Zero Dawn. @Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley on Skype!
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 11	Posted - 2015.07.14 12:06:00 - [4] - Quote Skihids wrote: Unfortunately CCP has to see a valid business case before they take action and I don't know if they can make one. Dust 514 is profitable for CCP. CPM1 Kevall can confirm that, it was something Hilmar was quite happy with at fanfest this year. Being profitable is itself a victory, but more importantly, it is profitable on a last gen, dying console. Imagine the profit Dust 514 could generate on current gen tech whose audience grows every month. @Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley on Skype!
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 11	Posted - 2015.07.14 13:06:00 - [5] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: Beside that, a mid range PC that can compete with PS4 in terms of power still costs more and is a loud room heater under load. I own a PC that boasts comparable or better specs than the PS4. It is absolutely not loud and doesn't make my room hot So what the ** are you going on about? @Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley** on Skype!
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 11	Posted - 2015.07.14 15:00:00 - [6] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: your PC costs how much? is most likely in a big tower. and still eats 350W under load. I can get a PS4 for 350Gé¼ with 2 controllers and a game in a bundle on amazon. it fits nicely in a small shelf and eats 120W maximum beside that, my smartphone can do everything your PC can and even more with the help of virtualization and a server. your PC obviously is obsolete, bow down to smartphone master race. You are too funny Jack. I enjoy reading your posts; it's like the Dust 514 equivalent to The Onion. My PC was just shy of $500 (450Gé¼). I want to say $460, but it has been a while. I can upgrade it with a new GPU, more RAM, or more powerful CPU. If a new bit of cooling tech comes out I can upgrade it if I want to. If you want a new PS4 you will need to buy the newest model. Hell, a new PS4 with a SSD came out recently. Anyone who owns the old PS4 will need to upgrade: another $400 down the crapper. As for power, I live in TN where power is 10.61 cents per kilowatthour. Some of the cheapest in the country thanks to the hydroelectric power we have here. I'm just fine with my PC's power consumption. @Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley on Skype!
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 11	Posted - 2015.07.14 15:38:00 - [7] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: anyway power consumption of a PC adds up here in Austria. Playing several hours a day results in almost 100Gé¼ extra per year. That is rough. Power consumption of a console vs. PC would be more of a factor then. Point taken. Jack McReady wrote: and btw you can exchange the harddrive of the PS4. it is as simple as plug and play, I have a 1 TB hybrid drive installed. Ah, but you bought the drive that came standard with the PS4 then had to purchase the 1TB hybrid drive separately, yes? How much did that add to the cost of the PS4? I purchased the exact drive I wanted for my PC. I didn't have to upgrade it day 1 to a new drive. Jack McReady wrote: and the PS4 has something that PC does not have. a very optimized low level API but developers are generally to lazy to optimize their games and use it and only a few games run on it. the low level API is what makes the hardware shine. just look at the PS3 and uncharted, killzone or the last of us. those games look great running on hardware from 2005 due to the low level API. directx and mantle is child play in comparison. no PC with hardware from 2005 would be able to run such games that well. This isn't my area of expertise. I am not a programmer and I don't pretend to know about API and such. I know the games I have on my PC run well and look great. They maintain 60 FPS where consoles hit 30 - 35 FPS and do well to stay there. I know it doesn't belch hot air like you describe and didn't cost my a fortune as some people would like to believe. I can upgrade it's components when I want to with what brands I like (within compatibility restraints, of course). Many of my PC games have huge modding communities to add in features and content when a game studio has stopped making DLC for them. I can net massive amounts of PC games from digital distributors like Steam and GoG on the cheap. I feel like I have gotten off track... All that to say I prefer PC gaming. I concede there are certain circumstances where consoles make sense (your power consumption issue is a new one to me and I won't forget it), but overall I feel PC gaming is a better, more consumer-friendly gaming platform. @Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley on Skype!
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 11	Posted - 2015.07.14 15:45:00 - [8] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: When did the thread become a pc vs console thing... Because that is the point of contention in the playerbase. We can all admit that Dust needs to get off the PS3 quick fast and in a hurry. We can all agree CCP needs to start talking to us. What we can't seem to agree upon is where Dust would perform better: PC or PS4. @Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley on Skype!
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 11	Posted - 2015.07.14 15:53:00 - [9] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: If it went to ps4 then I could play it on my vita..and people who fail to realize dance dance will be far superior on PC due to kb/m..can't wait for that QQ lol Mouse precision would offset A<->D strafing nonsense. Plus, after the most recent hit to strafe speeds, I don't see much wiggle-wiggle anymore. @Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley on Skype!
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 11	Posted - 2015.07.14 16:10:00 - [10] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: Remember dolphin diving from battlefield 2? if not, look it up on youtube. I remember it... but it involved flying around in a prone position... Dust doesn't have a prone position. We have crouch which drops your movement speed even more. @Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley on Skype!

Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 11	Posted - 2015.07.14 16:19:00 - [11] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Oh yeah like out of the 2k that play most don't already have a ps4...not like having a FTP game on ps4 would lead to new players or anything We don't know how many PS3 owners have a PS4, but let's go by the PS4 unit sales. In March PS4 unit sales hit 20.2 million units worldwide. I don't have any figures on the total units as of July. On Steam alone there are 125 active accounts... that was accurate as of February this year. Not certain how many are active as of July. If EVERY SINGLE PS4 owner downloaded Dust 514 on their PS4 they wouldn't hit 17% of the Steam account total... think about that. Just by going PS4, CCP would be opting out of 104.8 million potential customers. @Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley on Skype!
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 11	Posted - 2015.07.14 19:36:00 - [12] - Quote 501st Headstrong wrote: I'll say it once I'll say it again where are the CPM? Dude, they are so deep in the NDA they couldn't tell us anything. HOWEVER The fact that they are having CPM2 elections is a good sign... @Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley on Skype!
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 11	Posted - 2015.07.14 20:46:00 - [13] - Quote Skihids wrote: My take is that CCP considers an EVE FPS to be a failed experiment. Nevermind that there is a direct quote from CCP Rouge, executive producer for CCP Shanghai, that he believes we deserve a New Eden FPS. @Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley on Skype!
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 11	Posted - 2015.07.16 19:15:00 - [14] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: but I have no idea if it is even being ported:/ More than likely yes. CPM2 elections are a good indication that a port or something is in the works. PS4 or PC or N64? No one knows because CCP's policy is apparently to keep your customers in the dark. @Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley on Skype!
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 11	Posted - 2015.07.16 19:19:00 - [15] - Quote Unrelated: maybe if we keep this thread on the front page long enough CCP will cave? @Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley on Skype!
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 11	Posted - 2015.07.16 19:34:00 - [16] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: I more wonder if Dust can even be ported with how many developers have come and gone from this project. They probably don't understand all the scripts being used to properly translate and port them over. Well, through the CPM and CCP we have learned the current Dust 514 code is hinky. Maybe it hasn't be thoroughly commented enough. The only partly that knows exactly what is wrong is CCP. Regardless, CCP has been working on unfucking Dust's code for several patches now. It is possible to fix... providing you have a team with sufficient resources. @Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley on Skype!
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 11	Posted - 2015.07.21 15:03:00 - [17] - Quote Alcina Nektaria wrote: I am all for PS4 porting. I think one thing CCP REALLY needs to take into consideration how much publicity they would get for the game by porting to next gen consoles. Currently, there are only a few people who have YouTube channels dedicated to gameplay, but imagine live streaming! They want more players? This is how they can achieve that + making the community happy. You aren't wrong, but this could also be done with a PC port. @Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley on Skype!
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 11	Posted - 2015.07.21 16:49:00 - [18] - Quote Doug Garcia wrote: I'll keep funding the game If they port it to PC they will have 125,000,000 potential Steam customers to help fund Dust 514. Not saying they don't value your business, but consider the number of potential downloads Dust could have on something like Steam. Doug Garcia wrote: You PC gamers already have EVE, so, back off. Not every PC player has Eve Online. Why does Eve Online existing prevent us from having a New Eden FPS? @Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley on Skype!
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 11	Posted - 2015.07.21 17:43:00 - [19] - Quote Doug Garcia wrote: Because DUST, in a sense, (and in my opinion) is OUR share of CCP's game. DUST was intended for a console, and so it came out on a console. Don't go ruining it for those of us who have gaming consoles, by suggesting a port to PC. This is speculation. We could also say that Dust 514 (PS3) was an experiment. It was CCP testing the FPS market on consoles. Neither of our statements prove anything. Doug Garcia wrote: And CCP can still get their money's worth on PS4. Since DUST is ALREADY on PS3, why not move it to PS4. Well, let's begin with the fact that the last sales numbers for PS4 put it at 20 million units sold. Assuming every single PS4 owner downloaded Dust 514 (which is unlikely) they still wouldn't hit 20% of the active accounts on Steam. As a business, those are significant numbers. Doug Garcia wrote: Another thing to keep in mind, is that when you're actually on DUST, in your chats, you see more Dust bunnies, then you do EVE pilots. So... there are more players on PSN playing the game already. You know that Eve players only show up in Local chat if they talk, right? Also, sometimes Dust mercs are located in low security space which is not heavily populated right now. Try looking at high sec or null. The number of Eve pilots dwarves the number of Dust mercenaries. Doug Garcia wrote: And it would be easier for me to purchase a new PS console, than it would be to buy a PC, (which we all know, the current percentage of DUST players won't actually do). I think you would be surprised at how many players already own a mid-range PC capable of running 2015 games. It's a fallacy that in 2015 you have to make the decision on either being a console gamer or PC gamer; mid-range PCs are now as affordable as a console and usually meet or surpass console specs. Hell, even if Dust gets ported to PC I will still buy a PS4 soon (probably Christmas) for some PS4 exclusives. @Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley on Skype!
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 11	Posted - 2015.07.21 18:07:00 - [20] - Quote Doug Garcia wrote: You play a hard bargain. And you brought out great points. But in my position, you have to understand that, I'mean not the kind of guy who plays more than 3 games at any one time. I like taking my time and really go through with each individual game. Another reason why I'mean stubborn as far as keeping DUST to PS, is of course, the money that's been put in the game. And 2nd to that, the hours (like, I seriously went crazy for DUST... and somewhat anorexic). It just wouldn't be fair. For the love of all that is Amarr, PLEASE port to PS4. I don't want to spend my life savings on Battlefront or Destiny. I understand where you are coming from though. It's not that I am unsympathetic, please know that. To clarify my official stance on the port issue: I believe that porting to PC is Dust's greatest chance at survive HOWEVER after we have a successful PC port I could absolutely get onboard a PS4 cross-over (similar to what Planetside 2 has done). PS4 is a clean, powerful machine (for a console ) and Dust could do well on it. @Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley on Skype!

Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 11	Posted - 2015.07.21 20:24:00 - [21] - Quote 501st Headstrong wrote: Ripley, if you became CPM, I take it you would inquire about a port? Yes. I consider it a requirement to keep Dust alive. After a successful PC port I will continue to pursue a PS4 port unless CCP flat out tells me to shut the hell up. @Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley on Skype!
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 12	Posted - 2015.08.26 18:39:00 - [22] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: - Why does Steam have 8-9 millions players "online" while only 2-3 millions are playing games? For the same reason you can be logged into PSN, but not playing a game. xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: - Steam's grand total of players is made mostly by DOTA2 and Counter Strike players, At peak hours they take up more than half the total number of players alone. Also, both of them are regularly played daily and updated. The other most played games are either masterpieces like GTAV, Borderlands, The Witcher or Strategy / Manageria / Survival games. I'm not sure what your point here is. Yes, many Steam players play DOTA, CS:GO, Civ V, etc. Warframe is also very popular, though not a PC exclusive. This may come as a huge shock to many people, but it is possible to play more than one game For example, I play Warframe, Dust 514, Pillars of Eternity, Pokemon Y, Civilization: Beyond Earth, and PSone-era games on PS Vita. I enjoy all of them at my own pace when it suits me. xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: - A "much better" FPS like Planetside 2 on Steam only have 2800 players average, which is actually the same number as our old PS3's Dust 514, with all its flaws, all its bugs, all its overall "oldness" and its decaying community. And I'm not considering the fact that CCP should expand their pool of players and shouldn't do self-competition to Eve Online. Planetside 2 is a different style FPS. More twitch; faster TTK, more emphasis on reaction times and muscle memory. It has captured its audience in F2P future-tech shooter market. Dust can capture a different set of players... or some of the PS2 guys, who knows. As for the "self-competition to Eve Online" remark: have you considered the possibility that CCP wants this? Oh no! You quit Dust 514 to play Eve Online! Oh no! You quit Eve Online to play Dust 514. Either way, they make money. Also, see my previous comment about the ability to play more than one game... xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Of course, PC offers expandibility and the development is stable for years, possibly reaching much better visuals, but that's it. Games like No Man's Sky, Elite etc on Console are doing (or will do) just fine, simply because nowaday consoles can handle the immensity of their Universe while old-gen couldn't (technically old-gen could, but with too many compromises). Hell, even Star Citizen could have seen a development on PS4 if Sony ever accepted to give Chris Roberts free reign concerning pretty much anything. LOL 30FPS is "doing just fine". C'mon now... Speaking of Chris Roberts, GÇ£Star Citizen IS a PC game,GÇ¥ Roberts writes . GÇ£It will NEVER be dumbed down for a lesser platform. We will NOT limit the input options or supported peripherals to the lowest common denominator. We will NOT pass on features and technology just because they will only run on some hardware configurations.GÇ¥ xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: That said, the need to move on another platform, is way more important than "which platform". We are in agreement here. PS4 isn't a bad console. I would play Dust on it (once I get one). I would play Dust on PC too. The point is that we get Dust off the PS3. @Ripley_Riley Ripley.Riley on Skype!
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 12	Posted - 2015.08.26 20:27:00 - [23] - Quote DEATH THE KlD wrote: They need to bring steam to Xbox and playstation tbh.. And they need to bring PSN and XB Live to PC! No srsly @Ripley_Riley Ripley.Riley on Skype!
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 12	Posted - 2015.08.26 20:30:00 - [24] - Quote DEATH THE KlD wrote: Xbl is on pc Touche. Nintendo eShop then. The point being made that these markets are for their respective systems. Steam caters to PC, like GoG. @Ripley_Riley Ripley.Riley on Skype!
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 12	Posted - 2015.10.21 16:02:00 - [25] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: There's literally no downside to making the announcement. Inb4 Iron Wolf Sabre comes in here with that tired, useless "They don't want to over promise then under deliver!" line. "I get to fist tanks in butt" - Jadek Menaheim
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 12	Posted - 2015.10.29 13:31:00 - [26] - Quote Keep the faith, fellow Porticians. "I get to fist tanks in butt" - Jadek Menaheim

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