Dear players,

the experiments continue on the "share more data" front.

Here is something that some of you fellow number-nutters might enjoy.

The data is all kills in PC for a recent time period.

First column is Dropsuit type and Second column is Weapon type, and the Kills are kills performed in that combination.

Then, the last three columns are basically a one up category on both types, plus the Dropsuit race for further analysis.

You can consider all of these kills performed in prototype gear, that is almost exclusively used in PC.

Quick analysis (just drop the three last columns into an Excel pivot table, race across the columns and some conditional formatting to get the top 10 combinations), gives us:

1)AM Sent HMG, at 2X the next weapo
2)GA Scouts Shotgun
3)GA Sent HMG
4)Python MIssile Launcher
5)CA Scout Shotgun
6)MN Assault ACR
7) CA Sent HMG
8)Gunnlogi Railgun
9)MN Scout Nova Knifes
10)GA Scout Remote Explosives

Picture for reference, and I know it is illegible
[img]http://puu.sh/gkbJz/fe98516519.png[/img]

Raw Data (csv)

Also to note, MN Assault trending rapidly up, may need reining in soon.

It's also interesting to study, not only the top, but the absolute combinations that are never used. For example, caldari scouts have no kills with nova knives.

Also, Large Basic Frames are being used in PC, that is a conundrum to me...

No-one ever got a kill with an Amarr commando.

That's it, this is meant for the community to discuss, I have to work on some google docs

This sentinel-meta has been the exact same since 1.8, it is about ******* time you do something to Fix it. This is not about avoid choosing the sub-optimal choice in PC, this is about "spam as many heavy as we can" (where heavy means sentinels.) I love CCP Rattati and everything but I cant stand these sentinels being so ez game

Remember when we did the Assault suit rework that wasn't? All that happened was an ehp buff.

We never did turn assault suits into assault suits, and now they're a minority in PC(game engine exploitation aside) - big surprise to anyone here?

Along with the basic frame rework, it's an important job left undone. Rattati has an unhealthy fondness for using the ehp/dps hammer when finer tools are called for.

Maybe the ehp buff was a stopgap measure to restore some viability to assaults. I certainly hope that's the case.

The amarr heavy frame is used because players that are skilled into the sentinel role can easily skill into the frame and get the 2nd high slot for forge gunning, the minmatar basic heavy frame has a better strafe and sprint speed than the minmatar sentinel and can actually brawl with sentinels since the minmatar sentinels' resistances are irrelevant in sentinel vs sentinel situations anyway.

The HMG is THE ONLY CHOICE, for every Sentinel that wants to do CQC, what they are meant for. You cannot nerf the HMGs CQC, nothing will ever stop it from being used up close, you nerf the Basic and people will just use the SKB, which even now is just as good as the others.

You reduce its range and damage too much and, like at the start of upraising, Heavies will just switch to Rifles, Combat Rifles to be exact.

I forgot, you want the Heavy "out of CQC" and forced into some arbitrary role. Agaan, what is going to stop Heavies from having logis glued to them a pushing points?

The balance has always been the Heavies lack of Speed, lack of passive scans, lack of slot variety, lack of equipment, and the need of Logistical support to be effective.

He mentioned how the HMG, a Heavy Weapon, is encroaching on the Blaster Rifles, a light weapon, Turf as being a concern. So this my be a ploy to get Sentinels to switch to Blaster Rifles. I've seen though his plot, nope, combat rilfe all day.