Districts should be affected to the extent that a successful raid interrupts farming operations. If the raiders are beaten back, then back to business-as-usual. Incentives for showing up for the fight.

Districts should be affected to the extent that a successful raid interrupts farming operations. If the raiders are beaten back, then back to business-as-usual. Incentives for showing up for the fight.

Hence Corp exclusive. It is imperative. Defends and attacks. Corp exclusive.

We have been screaming for some type of game mode in which you can have a competitive setting without the high stakes of PC and if done right this may be that mode.

Raid Mechanics
The attacker should not need a district to launch an attack from i suppose this is self explanatory but it needs said. Removing that gap gives everyone the opportunity to perform this action. CP cost should be proportional to actually sending an attack to take a district, for corps that own land, and be substantially less for corps that do not. This gives an endgame for corps that do not wish to participate in PC but rather be a pirate type corporation. This makes it more difficult for a corp in PC to try to manage raiding with the other CP actions. As much as i want this to be a big battle a raid, as opposed to a battle, is a small scale event and should be handled as such. 6v6 or 8v8 in a domination type match would be ideal for a raid.
Battles should also have no clone limit and play until the MCC is destroyed to allow sides to use as many resources as possible/wanted to achieve victory. A vehicle cap should also be in place of 1 major vehicle HAV/ADS and 1 minor Vehicle LAV/DS. This makes the match much more tactical and prevents a corporation from deploying 6 tanks to hold the one point.
A 1 minute warning should be all a corporation receives and this 1 minutes can be within 1 hour of your timer for example 0.H has a district timer set at 01:00 A raid can happen at 00:01-02:01 if the raid is placed at 00:00 or at 2:00. This is a perfect raid style timer. Making your opposition scramble to find people not currently deployed to defend against the raid. The War Barge should also only be 1 minute long. Many may disagree with this short of a warning but a raid should not give you advance warning because with greater then 2 minutes i can get the 6-8 of the best 0.H players into this battle as if we knew it was going to happen the whole time. Even with 2 minutes it will still be relatively easy to field a team to fight those battles.
I also believe multiple raids by different corporations on even the same district should be allowed. Doing so would cause those small elite corps like 0uter.Heaven the inability to field the players necessary to prevent all raids from being successful and keep us out of pubs where we destroy the hopes of many players. Since raids cost CP this makes corps that have districts less able to Send Attacks, Sell Clones, Move Clones, Change Timers and (if anyone read my previous thread) Change Map Layout.

Raid Benefits
Raids need to have great incentive for the competitive player base not currently in PC to use their CP to do raids. So in light of that statement i believe

A successful Raiding Corporation should receive PC style payouts (ISK and Salvage) AND massively increased chance for random officer gear drops. Should the match result in a no show by the defending corporation there needs to be a severe penalty either through isk or CP I currently don't know how to penalize and need help from the CPM's and CCP to make it worthwhile to at least provide a resistance or for the attackers to stay through a noshow. This further takes competitive players from public matches and gives the new players a chance to love the game.

A successful Raided Corporation will receive NO isk, Enemy Salvage and a Massively increased chance for random officer gear drops. The no isk part is essential as this makes the defending corporation want to be as efficient as possible. If say 0.H gets raided by P.E we will want to attempt to win the match with minimal casualties due to the isk inefficiency possibility. However if officer gear is more circulated we will finally see them used in PC due to the ability to have a reliable way to earn more.

I would have to strongly disagree. I think something like Thor mentioned where it cost more CP to bring in ringers would be fine, but players should be allowed to freely associate even if there is a cost to that.

Corps may very well want to bring only potential recruits on a raid to try them out as well as a myriad of other potentials. Corp purity is a much lower priority than the freedom to associate in what's the only real sandbox arena in Dust.

Raiding should really have its own thread.

If Mr Spero would be so kind as to put his best ideas forth in a separate thread then we can properly hash this out there.

Farms of resource yes. Clones no

And if the two are one and the same?

I hope they are not. Clones are for combat.

Kane, I am watching you. You smell the iskies and I see what you are doing lol

Go right ahead. I'll be seeing you in pubs soon. You'll be knocking the dust off of your character.

Funny stuff...I wonder who you are already in talks with about a return...hmmm....we will see in due time I suppose.

trust me. I know. I am not concerned for my corp. Right now if this change is implemented. I will hold 4 districts. And not attack with them. Or attack friends for fun battles. I will dedicate our time to what we will call Raid Farming. We will pillage everyone using 16 elites. The small corps use to be able to counter this. Because they had time to prepare. Now. They won't. They will be slaughtered. I do not want this because I care about the game. This will greatly benefit me.

I have not read every page here. I apologize for any duplication in my request.

Please add a requirement so that PC/raiding battles can only be entered by the corporations involved.
This would effectively remove ringers, and allow for a more rewarding (challenging) experience for field commanders.

Along with the timer update, fielding full teams shouldn't be an issue. Corp mates getting left out of PC, due to a mixed 'A' team fielding PC (all day), may still be an issue. This also allows recruitment to be more specific in seeking desired suits/vehicles.

The benefits of an alliance should be revisited as well. Should the ringer rule be implemented, maybe the alliance could field teams, if and only if it is in defense of a raid, targeted against one of it's own corporations. I also think that an even larger scale 'alliance battle/conquest' could be fun!

Felt nifty being a fly on the wall in Bamm Havoc's chat with the CPM on Team Speak.
Kane Spero brought to my attention the idea of having to spend command points to accept and kick players from corp.
I'm considering whether it would be beneficial to the meta of corp hiring and giving leverage to workers by having the kick player from corp cost more CPs than accepting and processing their application.

Might offer some interesting gameplay if you can get a bunch of alt characters into a group and proceed to sabotage the CP pool by mass removing them yourself from the corp.

I don't think there needs to be anything at this point that would dissuade corps from recruiting.

Actually I only think you should have a cost for kicking a member or them leaving. Even that maybe a bit iffy. The reasoning being if you are just farming recruits and not doing anything with them and they start leaving then it drains your CP. Also, this would limit the use of loading into a corp, filling it with CP, and then leaving.

There could always be a grace period of X days. It seems like it would be important to only recruit members serious about joining. Also, if corp history becomes available you look at someone's history and it shows they are a corp hopper then you don't recruit them.

CP per earned Component, should go up from low to max based on how long you have been in the corporation. That means a gang of 16 elites cannot go around multiple alt corps, filling up their CP pool and moving on.

Can we call them Strategery Points from now on? Please?

CP per earned Component, should go up from low to max based on how long you have been in the corporation. That means a gang of 16 elites cannot go around multiple alt corps, filling up their CP pool and moving on.