Good news blueberries, looks like something may be seriously cutting into my usual pubstomping. Sounds like old-school CBs, only better (Yarrr)


Also, I'm still a bit confused about the form the Corporate Missions are going to take. Can only one person complete each mission? Any chance we could get an example of something that could be a corporate mission?

We want PC corps to recruit more players and grow the PC playerbase, which as a percentage of the total player base is stupidly low.

This is why CP is based on player numbersin corp and not districts owned. There are a finite number of districts and we don't want them to limit player expansion.

I really like this. Are you guys looking for number speculations and more Corporation Modules or just our feedback on this atm? If just feedback, then my only concern is as previously stated- Large Corporations will fill up uber-quickly, however I can also see Corps just grabbing new players to get those milestones, and then just using these same 16 players instead of the new bro straight out of the academy, who will need months or a year to become very competitive.

-The raids could become a way of farming and padding if both sides use BPOs. May Raids PLEASE take down a Corporations Command Points??

After all, Raiding usually is a prerequisite to a big attack. If Command Points are needed to Defend Districts and such, bleeding a Corporation to a certain thresh hold (Dependent on how many Command Points they originally had. Bleed to 1/6 of the original total so a Larger Corp can't just subjugate tinier ones who have no chance of defending against raids.

-Make the different number of people in Raids cost more Command Points exponentially. Scenario- Blitz takes in only a squad of 0H for 500 CP, however we plan on launching from a Raid, which if successful leads to taking down the Defense Network (Dom). He wants to take more, but it'll cost too much CP, and we need it to launch the true Skirmish PC we all know and love afterwards.

This way, PE can only say muster 6 or 8 people going into a raid, whereas the defending corp always get the Advantage in CP, being able to field more members. Making this 8v8 is the wrong way to go about it. When a threat hits a village, all the villagers rise. Of course defending costs a certain amount of CP as well (Make it exponential), but it would make the mode uber challenging if it's 1 squad vs 10 or 12 players. More tactics, hell it could even be used for training as an uber tough Ambush and for building squad Cohesion.

Modules:

Resource Hub- Allows for increased Storage CP, however requires X CP to maintain (Perhaps also allow Cargo Hub Districts to do this? Or are we staying away from Districts doing that?)

Spy Network- Allows for raiding a Corporation with no districts. Used for corporations to still get some competitive flavor, however it requires high CP from the attacking corporation. All corps are based somewhere, this would essentially be attacking the main base, which requires absolutely no CP to defend. The perks are for attacking corporations that you despise. Say a guy in FWA jihads your Proto Tank. You want this guy to pay, his whole corp to pay. You convince your leadership to raid them, hell even grind the CP to initiate the attack. That is the type of thing I'd surely do.

This is New Eden. No one is safe. 07. Love this thread.

We want PC corps to recruit more players and grow the PC playerbase, which as a percentage of the total player base is stupidly low.

This is why CP is based on player numbersin corp and not districts owned. There are a finite number of districts and we don't want them to limit player expansion.

Something to consider in regard to timers and the CP cost of district attacks (would like to see this replaced with Warbarge mechanics in the long run). I would make attacks that vary from your own districts timer have an increasingly higher CP cost. This should allow people to raid into another TZ, but attempting to stockpile districts on say a 1300 timer and then attack districts at 2300, 0300, etc. would be costly and unappealing.

Can a corp with more members have more total CP? It absolutely sucks when more than 16 X up for PC and we're full, some of these guys up till 1 in the morning. Allowing multiple raids a night mixed with high-quality PC battles and managing districts would be the bustle and hustle a corp needs.

Squad 1 is full for the Raid vs PE 50, please make sure that our Cargo Hub sells its clones. Yes, I know it'll cost 10 CP.
Shooter join the battle vs KOTR pls, the battle went into Defense Network from the Raid
Unique, set up a raid vs MULA. We need to keep them distracted so they can't ring for PE

This...OMG this...

It goes both ways. Be on a 00:00 timer and it's hard to fight Warravens.

Raiding:

20 minute raid delay.

Attacking force drops to map regardless of whether or not the defenders (who get an immediate muster email) are on-site.

I love.

If all hack points are taken and held for three minutes the raiders escape with a moderate haul of whatever. Nothing to sing about.

I feel some raids should be ambush, and others depending( for more CP), could be actual Resource extraction
The instant even one red dot spawns in the defense is on as the defenders trickle in to protect their assets and the battle progresses per usual mechanics.
Are there unusual mechanics at the beginning?

The defended districts should provide a much higher yield than undefended because the raiders have to beat the defenders for the loot and to get more time before an insurmountable defense.
Makes a lot of sense.

Attackers can only attack a given district once per day.
I disagree. You should be allowed to attack more than once (maybe as a future Corp upgrade I digress. Personally, i play PC for the fights, not the Isk. I'd raid to see if a corp can give me a fight, and it'd suck to waste that one chance on no one being home. Allow it to be done every 5 or 6 hours, with additional upgrades allowing for more. I can raid when I get home from school, and before bed after pc

Once the battle ends the district locks out further raids for an hour to give the defenders a breather.

So...it can be raided by another corp??????

Raid defense costs zero CP.
i LIKE

As mentioned earlier:

Payouts for actual fights should be increased and worth the raider force's time. Uncontested wins should feel like yeah you got loot, but you should have gotten more...

Incoming wall of text but I must get on my laptop. My phone won't cut it

This will change nothing, I explain to you what is going to happen.

I will spam invites in every match I play, I will go to the academy to say everyone to join my corp, I will accept every newb to my corp. Then I will still only play with my friends, I will let the same 20-25 players play PC. I will have a hundred newb in the corp just to be able to obtain more CPs, to be able to passively farm districts, changing Timers and stuff.

You will have more players in PC corps but you wont have more players involved in PC

CP cost values for corp actions are not finalised and can be tweaked. There are likely ways to increase a corps CP pool based on numbers but I'd want a modifier to slightly increase CP action cost to prevent super large corps having a pool large enough to change timers in massive lumps in one go.

Call this modifier 'corruption', the larger the playerbase a corp has, the more chance for CP to be skimmed. We could then have a further stratagem to reduce a corps 'corruption' level, producing another CP cost that has to be managed.

You could do that but how long do you think these players will hang around if you choose to treat them with such disdain?

Corps that actively grow and expand their playerbase, include them in raids and Pc matches and value them are going to become the better corps. How long do you think you and your 20-25 fiends will hold out against a corp of several hundred, well motivated players?

This is New Eden, you reap what you sow here.

If CP aren't tied to district ownership then it seems you can raid all you want within you CP wallet without owning land.

How long do you think you and your 20-25 fiends will hold out against a corp of several hundred, well motivated players?

I can see the elites holding out just fine. 'Several hundred players' sounds so grand, but in the end it's 16v16. It doesn't matter how many average players are in the attacking corp, if there's a solid A-team in the defending corp the defending corp will do just fine.

This is why some attacks (for more CP)- Bleed Clones instead of just resources. At least, it should be this way. A corp whose teams are always on to fight can last, but 20 to 25 having to fight off raids of districts and actual PCs will become burned out if mass attacked by plenty of smaller corps, or getting all the PC they wish :) Raids should not be able to take a district, but they sure as hell should severely wound a district

This is why some attacks (for more CP)- Bleed Clones instead of just resources. At least, it should be this way. A corp whose teams are always on to fight can last, but 20 to 25 having to fight off raids of districts and actual PCs will become burned out if mass attacked by plenty of smaller corps, or getting all the PC they wish :) Raids should not be able to take a district, but they sure as hell should severely wound a district

I can see the elites holding out just fine. 'Several hundred players' sounds so grand, but in the end it's 16v16. It doesn't matter how many average players are in the attacking corp, if there's a solid A-team in the defending corp the defending corp will do just fine.

Say for example that I have 25 great players, that make my A-Team, and 100 newbs or average players that I invited just to be able to earn more CPs. Now with 25 players I cant cover evry tz so I might be attacked when I only have 6 players.

Do you really think I d use My newbs? I d call ringers to help me...

I hope it is clear that I m not talking about me, or my corp. I m talking about what could be done.

Putting a limit based on number of players only push us to recruit everyone we can, not to train them or to get them involved but just to farm.