Removing backpedal speed is more important than any of these other changes. I appreciate the buff to PG. That will help a great deal.

Improving walk speed while equipped would cause people to use them for a "strafe" improvement and reducing backpedal speed is much greater improvement as it will help the shotgun as well.

Backpedal speed in the MCC before battle and merc quarters is not 100%, so it shouldn't be off the table for in the actual game. Strafe speed is also not 100%, so please nerf being able to walk backwards as fast as they can forward.

I agree, nerfing back pedaling speed makes a lot more sense and would have an overall improvement rather than incremental ones for specific components in the game. I know for sure that back pedaling in MCC and waiting room is not 100%, but is it the same during battles?

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I don't get why people have a problem with Sentinels hold knife while dancing.

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Keep saying that and watch Iggy show up and thunderpunch you

So, it's that time again. I'll be looking at Nova Knives in Hotfix Charlie, and am hoping to make some improvements for them. Here's the preliminary list of changes.

First off, I'll be trialling an increase from 2m range to 2.5m. This one isn't going in 100%, I'm hopefully going to get some testing time stabbing people around the office next week to see how it feels, might give a smaller increase if it's too much.

I'll also be testing aim adhesion next week to help with tracking targets at close range.

I'll look at adding a fitting optimisation skill. Like other fitting optimisation skills, this will decrease Nova Knife PG requirements by 5% per level, and will be a 6x skill. It will require Nova Knife Proficiency 4 to train. The skillbook will cost 774,000ISK.

Finally, I'll be decreasing charge time on standard knives to 1.2 seconds, and increasing their damage by 10 to 100 to bring them in line with the other knives.

Just to cut any discussion off at the pass, charging knives while sprinting is off the table. It's not going to happen, so please don't bring it up in this thread.

If you see any issues with any of these changes, please discuss them in this thread.

Oh! Oh! Oh!
Can we get a buff to nova knives so they do damage to tanks again?

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Step 1 in getting nova knife kills on tanks again acquired.

I like the idea of NKs dealing damage to tanks, but I'm not sure what kind of output they should have. 50% efficiency seems like a good deal (can't Ishy NK deal like 1200 per charge for a .8s charge or something)?

While I agree that if you manage to get on top of me and stay on top of me you should cut me out of the tank, it seems like it might be a more effective method than strapping REs or using an SL.

I'm just spitballing here, and I'm no NKer. Please swear at me if I'm wrong.

I like the idea of NKs dealing damage to tanks, but I'm not sure what kind of output they should have. 50% efficiency seems like a good deal (can't Ishy NK deal like 1200 per charge for a .8s charge or something)?

While I agree that if you manage to get on top of me and stay on top of me you should cut me out of the tank, it seems like it might be a more effective method than strapping REs or using an SL.

I'm just spitballing here, and I'm no NKer. Please swear at me if I'm wrong.

I like the idea..... but someone please justify just what they are stabbing so I can sleep at night.

* Change NK damage progression from 90-150-200 to 120-160-200.

I'm sceptical about the benefits of a reduction in backpedaling speed. It would change the fluid feeling of movement for everyone, just to make the use of two weapons in certain situations a bit easier.

I am very apprehensive about changing backpedaling speed as this affects everything else in the game as well. It's kinda the nuclear option, and I would prefer not to mess with it at the moment.

1. I don't understand how it will break the fluidity if backward movement speed wasn't 100%. Strafe speed is not 100% why would backward be any different? It would place it more inline with everything else. Besides if its that terrible fix it back in delta.

2. I'll still take faster forward movement while knives are equipped. But you will get more people starting a match with uplinks stacked kincats and a basic knife to get faster movement speed. Not to mention people likely using it to improve movement speed in general when trying to flee.

3. Also doesn't animation break once you hit above 11m/s. Which would mean a stacked proto minja will likely break those animations if knives are equipped.

4. With the upcoming buff to assault movement speeds Knifers won't stand a chance.

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With the upcoming buff to assault movement speeds

IMO, adhesion should be a 'if they're in your screen at time of slicing, and they move, it should attempt to chase them'

Is it possible to make it such that another scout(even a 2x Cx Plate) isn't just instalocked, while any moderately tanked assault(2x enhanced plate GalAsault?) is almost impossible to miss?

As for the range, i have no clue how this would work, at times i've been knif'd (literally) from across a hallway, but other times i can stand right in front of someone and miss.

Understood, and thank you for consideration.

Pencil, myself and many others support an alternative to the nuclear option. Would it be technically possible to increase forward movement speed when knives are equipped?

This would permit a knifer opportunity to catch up to and dispatch a backpedaler. Swing animation slows movement speed, such that a backpedaling target is always just out-of-reach when a strike would otherwise have landed. A tiny boost to forward movement speed combined your blade length improvement would remedy this issue (without drastically changing anything else).

Was this confirmed? The charlie thread was just too long to follow. I can't express how terrible that would be when frame-rate is so low and we still have hit-detection issues to deal with. Yeah. And my Assault suits being as fast or faster than my Gal-Scout just seems like it'll make Assaults better at some of the scout's roles.

Was this confirmed? The charlie thread was just too long to follow. I can't express how terrible that would be when frame-rate is so low and we still have hit-detection issues to deal with. Yeah. And my Assault suits being as fast or faster than my Gal-Scout just seems like it'll make Assaults better at some of the scout's roles.