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DTOracle BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 302	Posted - 2014.05.07 11:31:00 - [211] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: Amazing how y'all can type all these sentences without actually saying anything. The irony is strong with this one.
iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 1384	Posted - 2014.05.07 11:38:00 - [212] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: Stuff . You have no idea why people are mad do you. Im not going to list all the things for you. Go watch CCP fanfest 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011. Go read every page on the official dust 514 Website. Then think if the advertised vision matches the actual game. And you know, all thats stuff is fine, if you continue to develop the game. But Dust 514 development has essential ceased because CCP admitted they can't finish the vision on the PS3. "We spent so much time huddling inside buildings with tanks circling outside like a swarm of sharks around bait"
Foley Jones Huogikku Corporation 547	Posted - 2014.05.07 11:39:00 - [213] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: Dear enraged neckbeards. Sure start the post off by insulting the supposed eneraged crowd....kinda like throwing a pebble at a pissed off gorilla Are we even enraged anymore? Sure a litte sore but we stopped the forum rioting... MY SP BRINGS ALL THE MERCS TO THE CHANNEL AND THEY ARE LIKE "Do you wanna squad up?" DAMN RIGHT I WANNA SQUAD UP
DTOracle BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 302	Posted - 2014.05.07 11:41:00 - [214] - Quote Tebu Gan wrote: zzZaXxx wrote: DTOracle wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: and why is it we don't have these things....simple answer is ps3 isnt upto the task. they promised us these things for dust not the ps3. legion is essentially an expansion which brings us a better version of dust with everything you listed above possible onto another platform that can support that expansion Let be honest. It's CCP that wasn't upto the task. The PC is easier for them, the PS3 was too much of a challenge for them to develop on. It's not that the hardware couldn't handle it. Let's get real, who needs a 5x5Km map when you can never use more than 1x1km? It was tons of vision, with horrendous implementation. Sure the PS3 has it's limits, but don't blame it for CCP's failures. No offense, but you have no idea what you're talking about. While the OP is still just a ****, who himself is missing the big picture (while bashing everyone else), PS3 development has been rough for MANY game developers out there. Remember Fallout 3? I sure do & Bethesda didn't get a free pass on it or Skyrim. They had to fix the problems with their games. I finished both of those game or the PS3, they had plenty of problems but were eventually dealt with. Also those were completely open world games that were released years before this lobby shooter & still performed & looked better than Dust514.
Ankbar Latrommi S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 132	Posted - 2014.05.07 13:07:00 - [215] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: Isaa Quade wrote: Thats all I can think of in three minutes. Im sure if I went back and watched fanjets from last year I could find at least ten more and why is it we don't have these things....simple answer is ps3 isnt upto the task. they promised us these things for dust not the ps3. legion is essentially an expansion which brings us a better version of dust with everything you listed above possible onto another platform that can support that expansion Finally....LOGIC! If you are so good at logic, please explain how being unable to deliver on promises means they did not break promises? Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning." Eve> FPS
Gaurdian Satyr Glitched Connection 261	Posted - 2014.05.07 13:52:00 - [216] - Quote Yes the PS3 is limited with broken code Fix the code and we can have everything and more on whats going to happen in Legion /end CCP makes me physically ill
emtbraincase Falconpunch Hatesurfers 138	Posted - 2014.05.07 14:38:00 - [217] - Quote @zzZaXxx I thank God that I left Phoenix Fed before Fanfest, so as not to be associated with your own unique brand of reality-denying insanity. I left for different specific reasons, but this is a prime example of the results of those deeper issues. Enjoy Legion, but don't forget to bring your own lube as CCP has added a recent clause in the EULA that they can enter your home and violate you anally while sleeping. P.S. Not hating on all of TPF, several close friends still there, but as a group I found this person as more representative of the group than others.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1836	Posted - 2014.05.07 14:39:00 - [218] - Quote PR0FESSOR CHAOS wrote: zzZaXxx wrote: PR0FESSOR CHAOS wrote: 2014 mentioned legion will be on u4, then yesterday the lead designer say sorry we meant u3. legion is on the same ten year old engine dust currently is on, that sounds like cutting edge PC tech to me. It's on Unreal 4 dog. https://mobile.twitter.com/ccp_praetorian/status/463512406803488768 Is it dog? ccp praetorian doesn't even know what system this game is supposed to be running on. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
tastzlike chicken Rogue Spades 269	Posted - 2014.05.07 14:44:00 - [219] - Quote Sorry, I'm late! Any cool-aid left? I support legion. - it's more of a theoretical support. Depending on the feedback I get, it may become actual support.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1836	Posted - 2014.05.07 14:49:00 - [220] - Quote tastzlike chicken wrote: Sorry, I'm late! Any cool-aid left? contact jim jones immediately. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.

PR0FESSOR CHAOS Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 63	Posted - 2014.05.07 14:51:00 - [221] - Quote The Jim jones reference is appropriate the sad part is Hilmars doesn't register he's Jones, or does he? Either way top notch CCP. Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you.
Nstomper Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 553	Posted - 2014.05.07 14:59:00 - [222] - Quote im sure we all know this game http://zantetsuken.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/ffxiv-arr-box-art.jpg right ? Its on ps3 and not only does this game share servers with a ps4 and pc but it also has every single feature that the pc and ps4 also have, and its more massive than dust . So tell me why is it that this lobby shooter cant get a few new features added to it? If it was really the ps3 then the ps3 version of ffxiv wouldnt have as much stuff as it does on it. The blame is all on CCP
Mary Lilac Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 268	Posted - 2014.05.07 15:04:00 - [223] - Quote Nstomper wrote: im sure we all know this game http://zantetsuken.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/ffxiv-arr-box-art.jpg right ? Its on ps3 and not only does this game share servers with a ps4 and pc but it also has every single feature that the pc and ps4 also have, and its more massive than dust . So tell me why is it that this lobby shooter cant get a few new features added to it? If it was really the ps3 then the ps3 version of ffxiv wouldnt have as much stuff as it does on it. The blame is all on CCP Exactly right. Other developers can quite easily get much greater performance from their games on the PS3 while developing a MULTIPLATFORM GAME. Dust is the result of cut-rate chinese labor, not PS3 hardware limitations. 1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG. Be polite, they want to refund you!
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1838	Posted - 2014.05.07 15:05:00 - [224] - Quote PR0FESSOR CHAOS wrote: The Jim jones reference is appropriate the sad part is Hilmars doesn't register he's Jones, or does he? Either way top notch CCP. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1838	Posted - 2014.05.07 15:07:00 - [225] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: zzZaXxx wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: HTFU and fight. If you're talking about giving devs feedback I'm all for it. I'm talking about giving them feedback. I'm giving them feedback. That feedback includes "this was the worst way to handle this announcement, and you need to do something to make that right." Also, all they've said about UE3 is that the CURRENT BUILD they used to show the project at Fanfest is on UE3, nothing about future plans being to stay with that engine. That statement DOESN'T negate the statement that Legion is to be developed in UE4. devs have already stated that they don't intend to use the unreal 4 engine. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 2009	Posted - 2014.05.07 15:10:00 - [226] - Quote inohahna mamotto wrote: "laser focused on ps3" when the truth is we are only getting minor bug fixes ccp's been promising that we would be getting MAVs, Jets, Hoverbikes and pve for ps3 but oh wait their doing that to legion. Then go enjoy legion. Seriously, nothing is going to stop you from getting a decent PC and playing other games until you can go play legion. Because you wanted to be something you're not.
inohahna mamotto Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 127	Posted - 2014.05.07 15:14:00 - [227] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: inohahna mamotto wrote: "laser focused on ps3" when the truth is we are only getting minor bug fixes ccp's been promising that we would be getting MAVs, Jets, Hoverbikes and pve for ps3 but oh wait their doing that to legion. Then go enjoy legion. Seriously, nothing is going to stop you from getting a decent PC and playing other games until you can go play legion. If i ever do decide to get a gaming pc which is like close to not a chance, i sure as hell will not get it to play anymore games that this company full of broken promises may bring to the table.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 4503	Posted - 2014.05.07 15:16:00 - [228] - Quote Nstomper wrote: im sure we all know this game http://zantetsuken.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/ffxiv-arr-box-art.jpg right ? Its on ps3 and not only does this game share servers with a ps4 and pc but it also has every single feature that the pc and ps4 also have, and its more massive than dust . So tell me why is it that this lobby shooter cant get a few new features added to it? If it was really the ps3 then the ps3 version of ffxiv wouldnt have as much stuff as it does on it. The blame is all on CCP well thats an MMO and i imagine theres some substantial differences between the coding and processing required for an MMO and an FPS and as someone who owns both the ps3 and ps4 version, the devs got the ps3 version to run by making it look like ****.
Minor Treat RisingSuns Dark Taboo 295	Posted - 2014.05.07 15:17:00 - [229] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: PR0FESSOR CHAOS wrote: 2014 mentioned legion will be on u4, then yesterday the lead designer say sorry we meant u3. legion is on the same ten year old engine dust currently is on, that sounds like cutting edge PC tech to me. It's on Unreal 4 dog. Its unreal 3, They modified it. You should probably do some research before jumping to conclusions.
Nstomper Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 554	Posted - 2014.05.07 15:24:00 - [230] - Quote gbghg wrote: Nstomper wrote: im sure we all know this game http://zantetsuken.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/ffxiv-arr-box-art.jpg right ? Its on ps3 and not only does this game share servers with a ps4 and pc but it also has every single feature that the pc and ps4 also have, and its more massive than dust . So tell me why is it that this lobby shooter cant get a few new features added to it? If it was really the ps3 then the ps3 version of ffxiv wouldnt have as much stuff as it does on it. The blame is all on CCP well thats an MMO and i imagine theres some substantial differences between the coding and processing required for an MMO and an FPS and as someone who owns both the ps3 and ps4 version, the devs got the ps3 version to run by making it look like ****. it doesnt look that bad or at least it didnt for me because of my beautiful Haier HDTV... anyway... CCP advertises this game to be massive right? As a matter of fact " MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER SHOOTER" "brings intense infantry combat, large-scale warfare, and deep character advancement to a free-to-play massively multiplayer shooter" but guess what its not massive at all .. and okay since you want to trhow out the shooter things then how about defiance? Its a shooter and its open world and though i may not like that game anymore it has more to offer than dust oh and lets not forgot that Destiny the game that i really cant wait for.

Mary Lilac Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 269	Posted - 2014.05.07 15:34:00 - [231] - Quote low genius wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: zzZaXxx wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: HTFU and fight. If you're talking about giving devs feedback I'm all for it. I'm talking about giving them feedback. I'm giving them feedback. That feedback includes "this was the worst way to handle this announcement, and you need to do something to make that right." Also, all they've said about UE3 is that the CURRENT BUILD they used to show the project at Fanfest is on UE3, nothing about future plans being to stay with that engine. That statement DOESN'T negate the statement that Legion is to be developed in UE4. devs have already stated that they don't intend to use the unreal 4 engine. source? 1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG. Be polite, they want to refund you!
Minor Treat RisingSuns Dark Taboo 295	Posted - 2014.05.07 15:35:00 - [232] - Quote Nstomper wrote: gbghg wrote: Nstomper wrote: im sure we all know this game http://zantetsuken.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/ffxiv-arr-box-art.jpg right ? Its on ps3 and not only does this game share servers with a ps4 and pc but it also has every single feature that the pc and ps4 also have, and its more massive than dust . So tell me why is it that this lobby shooter cant get a few new features added to it? If it was really the ps3 then the ps3 version of ffxiv wouldnt have as much stuff as it does on it. The blame is all on CCP well thats an MMO and i imagine theres some substantial differences between the coding and processing required for an MMO and an FPS and as someone who owns both the ps3 and ps4 version, the devs got the ps3 version to run by making it look like ****. it doesnt look that bad or at least it didnt for me because of my beautiful Haier HDTV... anyway... CCP advertises this game to be massive right? As a matter of fact " MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER SHOOTER" "brings intense infantry combat, large-scale warfare, and deep character advancement to a free-to-play massively multiplayer shooter" but guess what its not massive at all .. and okay since you want to trhow out the shooter things then how about defiance? Its a shooter and its open world and though i may not like that game anymore it has more to offer than dust oh and lets not forgot that Destiny the game that i really cant wait for. Now is a PC platform a smarter move. Probably given how the PC is a easier architecture to design, while PS3 architecture is extremely complex. Notice how CCP did not use any excuses on hardware capability for the PS3? its because PS3 can handle what the Legion is capable of doing, but its extremely difficult to do so because of PS3 architecture is a bi-tch to design. Their have been MMO's on console products before. Look at Playstation 2 with its Final Fantasy 11.. Noted it was better on PC but it was more than capable on the console product, just not nearly as good. On PS3 check out defiance, DC Universe or Final Fantasy 14 reborn which are all MMO's. MMO's or open sandbox gameplay is not the limitation on the console and CCP was careful enough not to say that.
Minor Treat RisingSuns Dark Taboo 295	Posted - 2014.05.07 15:36:00 - [233] - Quote Mary Lilac wrote: low genius wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: zzZaXxx wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: HTFU and fight. If you're talking about giving devs feedback I'm all for it. I'm talking about giving them feedback. I'm giving them feedback. That feedback includes "this was the worst way to handle this announcement, and you need to do something to make that right." Also, all they've said about UE3 is that the CURRENT BUILD they used to show the project at Fanfest is on UE3, nothing about future plans being to stay with that engine. That statement DOESN'T negate the statement that Legion is to be developed in UE4. devs have already stated that they don't intend to use the unreal 4 engine. source? Its unreal 3, They modified it. You should probably do some research before jumping to conclusions. Here's the dev post on the forums. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2141348#post2141348
Mary Lilac Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 269	Posted - 2014.05.07 15:36:00 - [234] - Quote Minor Treat wrote: zzZaXxx wrote: PR0FESSOR CHAOS wrote: 2014 mentioned legion will be on u4, then yesterday the lead designer say sorry we meant u3. legion is on the same ten year old engine dust currently is on, that sounds like cutting edge PC tech to me. It's on Unreal 4 dog. Its unreal 3, They modified it. You should probably do some research before jumping to conclusions. Here's the dev post on the forums. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2141348#post2141348 Also zzZaXxx CCP failed on many promises for the console player base. There were many piece of equipment that were suppose to be deployed in 2013 like the stasis webifer, and the energy drainer. Everyone else who has commented mention their "laser focus on Consoles" and they did not mention bring Dust to PC (or in this case Legion as this is the first we have hear of this project). Hatred is not geared towards PC platform or the PC community but how CCP decided that alienating a community from is "focused" platform to improve the game in a easier method is more important (which is their right as a company to do so, of course this will have severe ramifications now and the future to come). Now is a PC platform a smarter move. Probably given how the PC is a easier architecture to design, while PS3 architecture is extremely complex. Notice how CCP did not use any excuses on hardware capability for the PS3? its because PS3 can handle what the Legion is capable of doing, but its extremely difficult to do so because of PS3 architecture is a *** to design. So is a quote from a community manager, that is prefaced with saberwing wrote:** I don't want to pretend to know what I'm talking about, but really a quote you want to use? 1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG. Be polite, they want to refund you!
Minor Treat RisingSuns Dark Taboo 295	Posted - 2014.05.07 15:39:00 - [235] - Quote Mary Lilac wrote: Minor Treat wrote: zzZaXxx wrote: PR0FESSOR CHAOS wrote: 2014 mentioned legion will be on u4, then yesterday the lead designer say sorry we meant u3. legion is on the same ten year old engine dust currently is on, that sounds like cutting edge PC tech to me. It's on Unreal 4 dog. Its unreal 3, They modified it. You should probably do some research before jumping to conclusions. Here's the dev post on the forums. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2141348#post2141348 Also zzZaXxx CCP failed on many promises for the console player base. There were many piece of equipment that were suppose to be deployed in 2013 like the stasis webifer, and the energy drainer. Everyone else who has commented mention their "laser focus on Consoles" and they did not mention bring Dust to PC (or in this case Legion as this is the first we have hear of this project). Hatred is not geared towards PC platform or the PC community but how CCP decided that alienating a community from is "focused" platform to improve the game in a easier method is more important (which is their right as a company to do so, of course this will have severe ramifications now and the future to come). Now is a PC platform a smarter move. Probably given how the PC is a easier architecture to design, while PS3 architecture is extremely complex. Notice how CCP did not use any excuses on hardware capability for the PS3? its because PS3 can handle what the Legion is capable of doing, but its extremely difficult to do so because of PS3 architecture is a *** to design. So is a quote from a community manager, that is prefaced with saberwing wrote:** I don't want to pretend to know what I'm talking about, but really a quote you want to use? EDIT: Just in case you missed it, no, it is not what anyone would call a solid quote. Well if you wanna take a bet I will take you up on it... Based on the fact he works with the CCP developers, he probably has the most accurate information and reliable given his position.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 5507	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:07:00 - [236] - Quote It's been explicitly stated that the current demo for Legion is running in UE3 by one of the devs on Twitter. I'm pretty sure UE4 was mentioned as something being considered for the project though. Don't have a direct source I can link right now, unfortunately, so it's possible I'm piecing that together from assumptions made on the forums.
Mary Lilac Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 271	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:10:00 - [237] - Quote Minor Treat wrote: Mary Lilac wrote: So is a quote from a community manager, that is prefaced with saberwing wrote: I don't want to pretend to know what I'm talking about, but really a quote you want to use? EDIT: Just in case you missed it, no, it is not what anyone would call a solid quote. Well if you wanna take a bet I will take you up on it... Based on the fact he works with the CCP developers, he probably has the most accurate information and reliable given his position. Edit: as a matter of fact, if he is not a source than Clearly the developers within CCP are not sources either. So yes I would quote a community Manager within CCP as a opposed to a guy on the forums who is just arguing for the sake of arguing. HE PREFACED THE COMMENT WITH HE DOESN"T KNOW. God you are dumb. 1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG. Be polite, they want to refund you!
PR0FESSOR CHAOS Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 69	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:14:00 - [238] - Quote U4 was thrown out mistakenly during ff. guess what same game same team and now you get to always wonder if it running like crap because of your computer. Progress? Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you.
Flyingconejo KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 969	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:19:00 - [239] - Quote Quote: Name ONE promise CCP broke http://www.destructoid.com/ccp-confident-about-dust-514-s-five-year-future-255455.phtml Credit to Stubby, give it a read. On 06.06.2013 this is what CCP told us: GÇ£WeGÇÖll never make a Dust 514-2'GÇ¥ "UprisingGÇÖ is not the end of the major, free updates. WeGÇÖve got quite a few more planned for the rest of 2013 and then out for two years, out for five years, out for ten years, just like EVE. Other upcoming modes include GÇ£Penetration,GÇ¥ which will allow Dust mercenaries to raid and board EVEGÇÖs Titan-class warships, and GÇ£Gladiator,GÇ¥ a set of organized tournaments that will include in-game betting and streaming.GÇ¥
Minor Treat RisingSuns Dark Taboo 295	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:23:00 - [240] - Quote Mary Lilac wrote: Minor Treat wrote: Mary Lilac wrote: So is a quote from a community manager, that is prefaced with saberwing wrote: I don't want to pretend to know what I'm talking about, but really a quote you want to use? EDIT: Just in case you missed it, no, it is not what anyone would call a solid quote. Well if you wanna take a bet I will take you up on it... Based on the fact he works with the CCP developers, he probably has the most accurate information and reliable given his position. Edit: as a matter of fact, if he is not a source than Clearly the developers within CCP are not sources either. So yes I would quote a community Manager within CCP as a opposed to a guy on the forums who is just arguing for the sake of arguing. HE PREFACED THE COMMENT WITH HE DOESN"T KNOW. God you are dumb. It does not exclude him as a source. And by what he doesn't know could be misinterpreted by your feeble mind. He said "I won't pretend I know what I am talking about" essentially he cannot go into details about how it was modified. Keep in mind his tag reads CCP he represents CCP so whatever source of information comes out of his mouth represents CCP's mouth. So I think we know whos dumb because you keep jumping to conclusions without clarification and more so that you have not go a single link to provide evidence for your claim of Unreal engine 4. Note... Unreal 4 is extremely high quality. Legion looks good but not that good. Here is a video with how Unreal 4 looks on console and PC. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtfCWYjOsvI



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