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PR0FESSOR CHAOS
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:27:00 -
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Why isn't this thread locked by now? Google has ten thousands examples. This only make the CCP white nights look stupid and will only lead to there exit as they wake up. CCP do yourself a favor stop asking your fans to apologize for you, stand up and admit your errors (HILMAR). Your reputation is falling apart and your making your crazy but overly loyal fans jump through hoops they shouldn't have to. It's like watching a domestic disturbance on cops where the battered wife says he was just drunk.
Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you.
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Echo 1991
WarRavens Final Resolution.
281
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:27:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:You're all just crying that these things won't come out on PS3. They're still committed to fulfilling all of their "promises" (like they owe us promises). For example, having a player market integrated with EVE is one reason WHY they chose to move to PC, so that they can actually do it. They wanted to do it all on PS3 and couldn't. Now they're moving to PC so that they can actually fulfill their promises regarding what the game was supposed to be and you all are calling them liers. Doesn't add up. They're giving you everything they committed to and more, but because it's not exactly the way you want it you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater. You do realise that the game being released on the pc (if it gets the green light) is not dust , its called legion. Might have the same mechanics but it isnt DUST |
Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
272
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:30:00 -
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Minor Treat wrote:Mary Lilac wrote:Minor Treat wrote:Mary Lilac wrote:So is a quote from a community manager, that is prefaced with saberwing wrote: I don't want to pretend to know what I'm talking about, but
really a quote you want to use? EDIT: Just in case you missed it, no, it is not what anyone would call a solid quote. Well if you wanna take a bet I will take you up on it... Based on the fact he works with the CCP developers, he probably has the most accurate information and reliable given his position. Edit: as a matter of fact, if he is not a source than Clearly the developers within CCP are not sources either. So yes I would quote a community Manager within CCP as a opposed to a guy on the forums who is just arguing for the sake of arguing. HE PREFACED THE COMMENT WITH HE DOESN"T KNOW. God you are dumb. It does not exclude him as a source. And by what he doesn't know could be misinterpreted by your feeble mind. He said "I won't pretend I know what I am talking about" essentially he cannot go into details about how it was modified. Keep in mind his tag reads CCP he represents CCP so whatever source of information comes out of his mouth represents CCP's mouth. So I think we know whos dumb because you keep jumping to conclusions without clarification and more so that you have not go a single link to provide evidence for your claim of Unreal engine 4. Note... Unreal 4 is extremely high quality. Legion looks good but not that good. Here is a video with how Unreal 4 looks on console and PC. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtfCWYjOsvI i just... I can't really comprehend how stupid you are.... seriously how did you figure out how to put pants on?
saying "i don't know" doesn't exclude someone as a source eh? You are not allowed to do research on anything... ever. You are effectively making everyone around you less intelligent by the black-hole of retardation you are emitting.I am so done with you it is not funny.
Also one last thing, using an engine =/= great visuals. You can even make UE3 look like crap (i.e. uprising)
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burning powers
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:35:00 -
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Mary Lilac wrote:low genius wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:zzZaXxx wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:HTFU and fight. If you're talking about giving devs feedback I'm all for it. I'm talking about giving them feedback. I'm giving them feedback. That feedback includes "this was the worst way to handle this announcement, and you need to do something to make that right."
Also, all they've said about UE3 is that the CURRENT BUILD they used to show the project at Fanfest is on UE3, nothing about future plans being to stay with that engine. That statement DOESN'T negate the statement that Legion is to be developed in UE4. devs have already stated that they don't intend to use the unreal 4 engine. source? Its Unreal Engine 3 Stfu |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
1530
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:35:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:zzZaXxx wrote:You're all just crying that these things won't come out on PS3. They're still committed to fulfilling all of their "promises" (like they owe us promises). For example, having a player market integrated with EVE is one reason WHY they chose to move to PC, so that they can actually do it. They wanted to do it all on PS3 and couldn't. Now they're moving to PC so that they can actually fulfill their promises regarding what the game was supposed to be and you all are calling them liers. Doesn't add up. They're giving you everything they committed to and more, but because it's not exactly the way you want it you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater. You do realise that the game being released on the pc (if it gets the green light) is not dust , its called legion. Might have the same mechanics but it isnt DUST
and eve on mac is a different game as eve on the pc
All Hail Legion
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Mary Overdrive
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
35
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:36:00 -
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Mary Lilac wrote:Minor Treat wrote:zzZaXxx wrote:PR0FESSOR CHAOS wrote:2014 mentioned legion will be on u4, then yesterday the lead designer say sorry we meant u3. legion is on the same ten year old engine dust currently is on, that sounds like cutting edge PC tech to me. It's on Unreal 4 dog. Its unreal 3, They modified it. You should probably do some research before jumping to conclusions. Here's the dev post on the forums. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2141348#post2141348Also zzZaXxx CCP failed on many promises for the console player base. There were many piece of equipment that were suppose to be deployed in 2013 like the stasis webifer, and the energy drainer. Everyone else who has commented mention their "laser focus on Consoles" and they did not mention bring Dust to PC (or in this case Legion as this is the first we have hear of this project). Hatred is not geared towards PC platform or the PC community but how CCP decided that alienating a community from is "focused" platform to improve the game in a easier method is more important (which is their right as a company to do so, of course this will have severe ramifications now and the future to come). Now is a PC platform a smarter move. Probably given how the PC is a easier architecture to design, while PS3 architecture is extremely complex. Notice how CCP did not use any excuses on hardware capability for the PS3? its because PS3 can handle what the Legion is capable of doing, but its extremely difficult to do so because of PS3 architecture is a ***** to design. So is a quote from a community manager, that is prefaced with saberwing wrote: I don't want to pretend to know what I'm talking about, but
really a quote you want to use? EDIT: Just in case you missed it, no, it is not what anyone would call a solid quote. Saberwing works within CCP so he is a reliable source of information. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:36:00 -
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burning powers wrote:Its Unreal Engine 3 Stfu There are sources confirming the current tech demo is UE3.
Got one that confirms there aren't plans to develop for UE4? |
PR0FESSOR CHAOS
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
70
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:36:00 -
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Mary and minor your just being played by CCP. Your both right they only speak in ambiguous terms never answering direct questions (see the responses in the twitter post). "The current prototype is on u3" "is it going to be developed on u4?" RADIO SILENCE 4 Eva. Now then can neither confirm or deny anything and make you both crazy. Your getting played.
Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you.
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KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
264
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:39:00 -
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Flyingconejo wrote:Quote:Name ONE promise CCP broke http://www.destructoid.com/ccp-confident-about-dust-514-s-five-year-future-255455.phtmlCredit to Stubby, give it a read. On 06.06.2013 this is what CCP told us: GÇ£WeGÇÖll never make a Dust 514-2'GÇ¥
"UprisingGÇÖ is not the end of the major, free updates. WeGÇÖve got quite a few more planned for the rest of 2013 and then out for two years, out for five years, out for ten years, just like EVE.
Other upcoming modes include GÇ£Penetration,GÇ¥ which will allow Dust mercenaries to raid and board EVEGÇÖs Titan-class warships, and GÇ£Gladiator,GÇ¥ a set of organized tournaments that will include in-game betting and streaming.GÇ¥
This right here, bottom line CCP talk to much. All they ever wanted was folks to buy Aurum while they worked on Legion. The name CCP will forever be tarnished with the console community. From this point forward CCP needs to be quiet. About Dust514 and Legion the damage has been done.
They cut themselves off from the console market with this foolish move. Watch anytime any gaming media Outlet does an article about CCP regarding legion watch the comment section flame them.
Console community don't forget when a Dev/Publisher does them wrong. |
DUST Fiend
The Wings of Legion
14142
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:39:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:burning powers wrote:Its Unreal Engine 3 Stfu There are sources confirming the current tech demo is UE3. Got one that confirms there aren't plans to develop for UE4? Scroll up.
Saberwing says their engine is so heavily modified that there isn't much point in them going to UE4. That doesn't necessarily mean that it won't if something comes up, but it looks like their version of UE3 is doing what they want it to already.
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Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:39:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:zzZaXxx wrote:You're all just crying that these things won't come out on PS3. They're still committed to fulfilling all of their "promises" (like they owe us promises). For example, having a player market integrated with EVE is one reason WHY they chose to move to PC, so that they can actually do it. They wanted to do it all on PS3 and couldn't. Now they're moving to PC so that they can actually fulfill their promises regarding what the game was supposed to be and you all are calling them liers. Doesn't add up. They're giving you everything they committed to and more, but because it's not exactly the way you want it you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater. You do realise that the game being released on the pc (if it gets the green light) is not dust , its called legion. Might have the same mechanics but it isnt DUST and eve on mac is a different game as eve on the pc
OH, I didn't realize that Eve on Mac had a different name, a different engine, that it was born by killing Eve on PC. I also didn't realize that there was a massive character change when going from PC to mac, and that not all of your stuff was going to be there, and that the developers in fact promised not one thing as far as your prior characters on eve PC.
Thanks for correcting me.
burning powers wrote: Its Unreal Engine 3 Stfu
This response just cries out "I just got done rubbing pooh on my face, I think I will go post on the forums." GJ on looking like a 5 year old bro.
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Minor Treat
RisingSuns Dark Taboo
295
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:40:00 -
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PR0FESSOR CHAOS wrote:Mary and minor your just being played by CCP. Your both right they only speak in ambiguous terms never answering direct questions (see the responses in the twitter post). "The current prototype is on u3" "is it going to be developed on u4?" RADIO SILENCE 4 Eva. Now then can neither confirm or deny anything and make you both crazy. Your getting played. Yeah I know the Prototype is on U3 but they probably have not gotten the green light to proceed with Project Legion yet. But if you got a link to provide that they are developing Project Legion I would love to see it.
Edit: I already did get played when I bought the whole dream of Dust 514.. Stupidly enough I am still buying into the dream of Legion. Old habits die hard. |
Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2489
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:40:00 -
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DUST 514 keynote would be about DUST 514.
Fanfest would let people have a hands-on with the next evolution of DUST 514.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
272
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:40:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:burning powers wrote:Its Unreal Engine 3 Stfu There are sources confirming the current tech demo is UE3. Got one that confirms there aren't plans to develop for UE4? Scroll up. Saberwing says their engine is so heavily modified that there isn't much point in them going to UE4. That doesn't necessarily mean that it won't if something comes up, but it looks like their version of UE3 is doing what they want it to already. You keep using "i don't know" as a source. I think you do not know what source means.
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Minor Treat
RisingSuns Dark Taboo
295
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:43:00 -
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Mary Lilac wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:burning powers wrote:Its Unreal Engine 3 Stfu There are sources confirming the current tech demo is UE3. Got one that confirms there aren't plans to develop for UE4? Scroll up. Saberwing says their engine is so heavily modified that there isn't much point in them going to UE4. That doesn't necessarily mean that it won't if something comes up, but it looks like their version of UE3 is doing what they want it to already. You keep using "i don't know" as a source. I think you do not know what source means. Source means origins buddy. So CCP is the origins and Saberwing works within them... That makes him a reliable source... Geez how old are you? |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
1530
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:45:00 -
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next evolution of dust is legion... face this simple fact
All Hail Legion
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Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
272
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:45:00 -
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Minor Treat wrote:Mary Lilac wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:burning powers wrote:Its Unreal Engine 3 Stfu There are sources confirming the current tech demo is UE3. Got one that confirms there aren't plans to develop for UE4? Scroll up. Saberwing says their engine is so heavily modified that there isn't much point in them going to UE4. That doesn't necessarily mean that it won't if something comes up, but it looks like their version of UE3 is doing what they want it to already. You keep using "i don't know" as a source. I think you do not know what source means. Source means origins buddy. So CCP is the origins and Saberwing works within them... That makes him a reliable source... Geez how old are you? So the janitor that works for CCP is a reliable source too, especially when he PREFACES WHAT HE SAYS WITH I DONT KNOW!!
You heard it here first folks, janitors now are sources on game development. Just stop, you are embarrassing yourself.
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Echo 1991
WarRavens Final Resolution.
282
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:47:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:next evolution of dust is legion... face this simple fact But it isnt dust. Dust is a ps3 exclusive, as of now legion will be a PC exclusive. Tell me how the same game can be called something else, be on a different system and be the same game. |
Minor Treat
RisingSuns Dark Taboo
295
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:49:00 -
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He can be... If the Janitors heard the conversation of the secret development of CCP on what they are going to do than he would become a reliable source of information given his origins within CCP network.
Don't you think its kinda funny how everyone else is disagree with you about how sources work? And more so than you have no a single piece of evidence to proof your claim. Now at least my evidence wither its flawed or not, its still consider reasonable form of evidence given how the guys quoting it, works within CCP. Provide Links buddy |
Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
8055
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:52:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:next evolution of dust is legion... face this simple fact But it isnt dust. Dust is a ps3 exclusive, as of now legion will be a PC exclusive. Tell me how the same game can be called something else, be on a different system and be the same game. While also having about 90% of content that differs from DUST 514.
inb4 The Lock!
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Minor Treat
RisingSuns Dark Taboo
295
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:54:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:next evolution of dust is legion... face this simple fact But it isnt dust. Dust is a ps3 exclusive, as of now legion will be a PC exclusive. Tell me how the same game can be called something else, be on a different system and be the same game. While also having about 90% of content that differs from DUST 514. Technically We don't know if Legion is going to be only PC exclusive given how they couldn't have gotten the green light for development yet. Unless CCP lied to us at fanfest. Their was mention during Progression Section of fanfest that they may bring it to Next generation consoles. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2944
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:55:00 -
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I think Zaxx's crazy rubbed off on Mary, the "I dont know" is a mealy mouthed out in case he needs it Typical CCP "I cant confirm but heres this thing thats totally happening" type of stuff really
Oh and if the janitor hears some devs talking about this or that feature while mopping the floors then yeah hes a source albeit a secondary source, actually just like Saberwing
Man this thread just turned into a box full of crazy, fan boys on their knees sucking CCP, people with facts being treated like man men raving about the end times, and others losing their **** over the definition of "Source" |
Minor Treat
RisingSuns Dark Taboo
295
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:56:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:I think Zaxx's crazy rubbed off on Mary, the "I dont know" is a mealy mouthed out in case he needs it Typical CCP "I cant confirm but heres this thing thats totally happening" type of stuff really
Oh and if the janitor hears some devs talking about this or that feature while mopping the floors then yeah hes a source albeit a secondary source, actually just like Saberwing
Man this thread just turned into a box full of crazy, fan boys on their knees sucking CCP, people with facts being treated like man men raving about the end times, and others losing their **** over the definition of "Source" Thank you. An intelligent man finally. (walks over to shake his hand) |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
1530
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:58:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:next evolution of dust is legion... face this simple fact But it isnt dust. Dust is a ps3 exclusive, as of now legion will be a PC exclusive. Tell me how the same game can be called something else, be on a different system and be the same game.
the game is the story, the features and how a game is played not the console it is on. legion will have all of what dust has with new advancements on every feature. change is not a new game its just plain old change. every single feature of dust, all be it changed in a small way will be in legion. that to any sane person makes dust, legion.
besides legion is the project name not the game name. who is to say it won't be eve dust514 : legion expansion
All Hail Legion
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zzZaXxx
The Phoenix Federation
403
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:59:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:I think Zaxx's crazy rubbed off on Mary, the "I dont know" is a mealy mouthed out in case he needs it Typical CCP "I cant confirm but heres this thing thats totally happening" type of stuff really
Oh and if the janitor hears some devs talking about this or that feature while mopping the floors then yeah hes a source albeit a secondary source, actually just like Saberwing
Man this thread just turned into a box full of crazy, fan boys on their knees sucking CCP, people with facts being treated like man men raving about the end times, and others losing their **** over the definition of "Source" Crazy? Business as usual. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2944
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Posted - 2014.05.07 17:00:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:next evolution of dust is legion... face this simple fact But it isnt dust. Dust is a ps3 exclusive, as of now legion will be a PC exclusive. Tell me how the same game can be called something else, be on a different system and be the same game. the game is the story, the features and how a game is played not the console it is on. legion will have all of what dust has with new advancements on every feature. change is not a new game its just plain old change. every single feature of dust, all be it changed in a small way will be in legion. that to any sane person makes dust, legion. besides legion is the project name not the game name. who is to say it won't be eve dust514 : legion expansion
So by your logic Street Fighter 2 is the same as Street Fighter 4 and they are both actually just the same game right |
Minor Treat
RisingSuns Dark Taboo
295
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Posted - 2014.05.07 17:01:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:next evolution of dust is legion... face this simple fact But it isnt dust. Dust is a ps3 exclusive, as of now legion will be a PC exclusive. Tell me how the same game can be called something else, be on a different system and be the same game. the game is the story, the features and how a game is played not the console it is on. legion will have all of what dust has with new advancements on every feature. change is not a new game its just plain old change. every single feature of dust, all be it changed in a small way will be in legion. that to any sane person makes dust, legion. besides legion is the project name not the game name. who is to say it won't be eve dust514 : legion expansion That's a very solid arguement.
But only thing that blurs the line between the two products is really does one game have more purpose to play than the other? |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2944
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Posted - 2014.05.07 17:01:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:Delta 749 wrote:I think Zaxx's crazy rubbed off on Mary, the "I dont know" is a mealy mouthed out in case he needs it Typical CCP "I cant confirm but heres this thing thats totally happening" type of stuff really
Oh and if the janitor hears some devs talking about this or that feature while mopping the floors then yeah hes a source albeit a secondary source, actually just like Saberwing
Man this thread just turned into a box full of crazy, fan boys on their knees sucking CCP, people with facts being treated like man men raving about the end times, and others losing their **** over the definition of "Source" Crazy? Business as usual.
Thats actually kind of sad, I hope you have a job that keeps you away from sharp objects and other safety hazards I dont say this to insult you but out of genuine concern for your well being |
Minor Treat
RisingSuns Dark Taboo
295
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Posted - 2014.05.07 17:05:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:next evolution of dust is legion... face this simple fact But it isnt dust. Dust is a ps3 exclusive, as of now legion will be a PC exclusive. Tell me how the same game can be called something else, be on a different system and be the same game. the game is the story, the features and how a game is played not the console it is on. legion will have all of what dust has with new advancements on every feature. change is not a new game its just plain old change. every single feature of dust, all be it changed in a small way will be in legion. that to any sane person makes dust, legion. besides legion is the project name not the game name. who is to say it won't be eve dust514 : legion expansion So by your logic Street Fighter 2 is the same as Street Fighter 4 and they are both actually just the same game right I think what he means is that the game itself not bias to the console platform but the product itself. For example Street fighter 4 is on Xbox360 and PS3 but there is truly no difference between the two products.
But if you get the update patch for one of those two products that changes the gaming variable than its different but still the same game.
But the Arguments comes down to If one product has everything while the other is missing pieces why play the less quality based version? Essentially if one product is identical but superior is all respects than how is it not the same game? |
zzZaXxx
The Phoenix Federation
403
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Posted - 2014.05.07 17:11:00 -
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There's no way yet to conclude if Legion will be on Unreal Engine 3 or 4. What they've been working on has been on U3 but it seems that's more due to it being faster and more convenient for them to tweak what they were already using in order to try all the new stuff they're testing with Legion. That's just for this "test version" though. We don't know if they'll stick with that when they start fully developing it for PC. I'm sure I've read/heard a dev talk about Unreal 4 at some point. If they're even mentioning it I think it's likely that they'll be using it. We'll see. |
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