DUST Search - Name ONE promise CCP broke

ISuperstar wrote:

zzZaXxx wrote:

You're all just crying that these things won't come out on PS3. They're still committed to fulfilling all of their "promises" (like they owe us promises). For example, having a player market integrated with EVE is one reason WHY they chose to move to PC, so that they can actually do it. They wanted to do it all on PS3 and couldn't. Now they're moving to PC so that they can actually fulfill their promise...

Thats exactly the ******* point, Despite numerous warnings and Naysayers from EVE players and Early beta players, Despite the fact that it was a Known fact Next Gen consoles were to be coming out soon, CCP's Bullshit staff assured us they would be able to accomplish all this and more on PS3 and stated they Had no plans of abandoning the console in any near future!

We took their word for it and supported the game on PS3 for 2 years, Money, Time, Feedback. All a lot of effort was put into the community to help see this game progress and become better...ON PS3!!

Then shortly after we finally get all the racial suits we waited 2 years for and the first Decent update in a year, we find out that these Scumbag developers have been willy nilly coding the Game we were supposed to have for A different ******* platform with no sign of consolation for the Console players that supported them.

Do you Really think CCP Just coded that Legion prototype in just a few short months? NO! Hell no, these guys couldn't even code a simple LOGOUT BUTTON without taking 6 months! They've been working on Legion for PC for probably half a year or even more, all the while we console guinea pigs have been Beta Testing and unknowingly money feeding the Legion beta known to us as Dust!

Do you not see why I'm angry!?!? To defend their BS is shameful for anyone who took part in the Dust journey.

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Mary Lilac Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 177	Posted - 2014.05.06 18:28:00 - [31] - Quote Name one promise CCP made about Dust that they did not break? 1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG. Be polite, they want to refund you!
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7968	Posted - 2014.05.06 18:29:00 - [32] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: Is it just that y'all are pissed because you don't have PCs? Or are you actually like preoperational 5 year olds that, when the water is poured from the tall thin beaker into the short fat beaker, think there's now less water? That's what I hear when people are raging, saying, "You promised these things would all come out in DUST, but NO! Now you're saying it's all gonna be in Legion! IT'S THE SAME GAME PEOPLE. GET THAT INTO YOUR HEAD IF YOU CAN. "Y'all just mad, CCP didn't break any promises!" *20 Different People list promises that CCP broke* "Y'all just mad that you don't have a PC!" #GarbleGarble inb4 The Lock!
THE 2000 SWINE Commando Perkone Caldari State 3	Posted - 2014.05.06 18:30:00 - [33] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: Is it just that y'all are pissed because you don't have PCs? Or are you actually like preoperational 5 year olds that, when the water is poured from the tall thin beaker into the short fat beaker, think there's now less water? That's what I hear when people are raging, saying, "You promised these things would all come out in DUST, but NO! Now you're saying it's all gonna be in Legion! IT'S THE SAME GAME PEOPLE. GET THAT INTO YOUR HEAD IF YOU CAN. We have built more PC's than you have IQ points.
ISuperstar DIOS X. II 236	Posted - 2014.05.06 18:44:00 - [34] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: You're all just crying that these things won't come out on PS3. They're still committed to fulfilling all of their "promises" (like they owe us promises). For example, having a player market integrated with EVE is one reason WHY they chose to move to PC, so that they can actually do it. They wanted to do it all on PS3 and couldn't. Now they're moving to PC so that they can actually fulfill their promise... Thats exactly the ***** point, Despite numerous warnings and Naysayers from EVE players and Early beta players, Despite the fact that it was a Known fact Next Gen consoles were to be coming out soon, CCP's Bullshit staff assured us they would be able to accomplish all this and more on PS3 and stated they Had no plans of abandoning the console in any near future! We took their word for it and supported the game on PS3 for 2 years, Money, Time, Feedback. All a lot of effort was put into the community to help see this game progress and become better...ON PS3!! Then shortly after we finally get all the racial suits we waited 2 years for and the first Decent update in a year, we find out that these Scumbag developers have been willy nilly coding the Game we were supposed to have for A different ***** platform with no sign of consolation for the Console players that supported them. Do you Really think CCP Just coded that Legion prototype in just a few short months? NO! Hell no, these guys couldn't even code a simple LOGOUT BUTTON without taking 6 months! They've been working on Legion for PC for probably half a year or even more, all the while we console guinea pigs have been Beta Testing and unknowingly money feeding the Legion beta known to us as Dust! Do you not see why I'm angry!?!? To defend their BS is shameful for anyone who took part in the Dust journey.
Rugudorull Apophicyria Be Just or Be Dead 64	Posted - 2014.05.06 18:51:00 - [35] - Quote Still waiting on that rolling sp cap Vita app too
Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 2406	Posted - 2014.05.06 18:54:00 - [36] - Quote Mechs. "The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire." Book of Exiles 1:3
zzZaXxx The Phoenix Federation 358	Posted - 2014.05.06 18:54:00 - [37] - Quote Ok so apparently what all this boils down to is: DUST will be developed indefinitely on PS3 = Promises fulfilled DUST will move to PC = Betrayal What I'm seeing is that every statement that is considered to be a lie is not thought to be so because they don't intend to carry it out but rather because they intend to do so on the PC platform....even though that's the only way they can actually do most of the things things they promised to do. I guess that's where some of us will just have to agree to disagree. You see it as a betrayal and a scam. I see it as a practical necessity in order to develop the game properly. If this kind of change gets you this worked up, prepare for a lifetime of disappointment and feeling betrayed a lot. Sh*t happens and you move forward. Sometimes things don't go the way we intend them to, despite good intentions. They hit a wall with PS3 and decided to go around it instead of just sit down and make camp. As for "scams", bad intentions, and taking advantage of the customer, if the fact that the future is on PC instead of PS3 is your grounds for such talk, sorry but it doesn't hold water. Play a better DUST on PC (with all your stuff intact) and be thankful for how much better it is, or go play another game. The End.
Meee One Hello Kitty Commandos 767	Posted - 2014.05.06 18:57:00 - [38] - Quote Didn't a member of CCP talk sarcastically when someone asked about Dust being on a "dying" platform. I do believe his response was "yeah,but there were 80 million sold". He even had this look of "are you and idiot?" to go along with his sarcastic tone.
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 619	Posted - 2014.05.06 18:58:00 - [39] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: inohahna mamotto wrote: "laser focused on ps3" when the truth is we are only getting minor bug fixes ccp's been promising that we would be getting MAVs, Jets, Hoverbikes and pve for ps3 but oh wait their doing that to legion. Yes, and it will be awesome. They "promised" (overused, childish) that they would eventually put those into the game. They will. On PC. What's your point? Dust 514 is going to be on PC? Awesome. I thought they were going yo make a different game called Legion. I'm glad you resolved that. Because, that's why.
Canari Elphus Dirt Nap Squad. 1658	Posted - 2014.05.06 18:58:00 - [40] - Quote I have only one thing to say AAA Shooter lulz PSN - ShallowGravez - Destiny here we come...

shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 2103	Posted - 2014.05.06 18:59:00 - [41] - Quote Shut up stupid OP https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2122628#post2122628 PSN: ogamega Not providing feedback or suggestions till a big SONY and PS4 logo appears under Legion
ISuperstar DIOS X. II 238	Posted - 2014.05.06 19:01:00 - [42] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: Ok so apparently what all this boils down to is: DUST will be developed indefinitely on PS3 = Promises fulfilled DUST will move to PC = Betrayal What I'm seeing is that every statement that is considered to be a lie is not thought to be so because they don't intend to carry it out but rather because they intend to do so on the PC platform....even though that's the only way they can actually do most of the things things they promised to do. I guess that's where some of us will just have to agree to disagree. You see it as a betrayal and a scam. I see it as a practical necessity in order to develop the game properly. If this kind of change gets you this worked up, prepare for a lifetime of disappointment and feeling betrayed a lot. Sh*t happens and you move forward. Sometimes things don't go the way we intend them to, despite good intentions. They hit a wall with PS3 and decided to go around it instead of just sit down and make camp. As for "scams", bad intentions, and taking advantage of the customer, if the fact that the future is on PC instead of PS3 is your grounds for such talk, sorry but it doesn't hold water. Play a better DUST on PC (with all your stuff intact) and be thankful for how much better it is, or go play another game. The End. Nuthugger Indeed
Mary Lilac Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 185	Posted - 2014.05.06 19:03:00 - [43] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: Ok so apparently what all this boils down to is: DUST will be developed indefinitely on PS3 = Promises fulfilled DUST will move to PC = Betrayal See this is how everyone knows you have no argument. #1 Dust isn't getting moved, it is getting killed. As per CCP "Dust and LEgion are 100% seperate games" #2 I think most were expecting DUST to move, i.e. keeping your corps/characters/isk/sp. No one thought it was going to stay on Ps3 forever. Claiming anyone thought differently than #2 is a bald face lie, a way for you to even have an argument when you actually do not. It is called a strawman. 1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG. Be polite, they want to refund you!
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 5397	Posted - 2014.05.06 19:07:00 - [44] - Quote What promises did they break? 1. "Laser focused on PS3" - they were directly telling us that still WHILE THE MAJORITY OF THE TEAM WAS WORKING ON THE NEW PC PROJECT INSTEAD OF THE PS3 GAME. 2. New content coming for PS3. This was promised many times over, including specific statements that the PS3 would be seeing "lots" of new content after 1.8 with ONCE AGAIN the entire plan being to focus on Legion at the time and ignore PS3 apart from minor balance tweaks and bug fixes. 3. Sony's Playstation 4 presentation included the future development of DUST 514 on that platform as a work in progress. While it's possible that WAS still the plan at the time, AS SOON AS THAT CHANGED, not telling us was a lie of omission, and pushing for us to buy more content involved USING THE EXPECTATION OF THE UPCOMING PS4 VERSION to support those sales. That makes it false advertising as well as a broken promise. I know you only asked for one, but you got 3. Satisfied?
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7972	Posted - 2014.05.06 19:08:00 - [45] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: What promises did they break? 1. "Laser focused on PS3" - they were directly telling us that still WHILE THE MAJORITY OF THE TEAM WAS WORKING ON THE NEW PC PROJECT INSTEAD OF THE PS3 GAME. 2. New content coming for PS3. This was promised many times over, including specific statements that the PS3 would be seeing "lots" of new content after 1.8 with ONCE AGAIN the entire plan being to focus on Legion at the time and ignore PS3 apart from minor balance tweaks and bug fixes. 3. Sony's Playstation 4 presentation included the future development of DUST 514 on that platform as a work in progress. While it's possible that WAS still the plan at the time, AS SOON AS THAT CHANGED, not telling us was a lie of omission, and pushing for us to buy more content involved USING THE EXPECTATION OF THE UPCOMING PS4 VERSION to support those sales. That makes it false advertising as well as a broken promise. I know you only asked for one, but you got 3. Satisfied? inb4 The Lock!
Phoenix 85 Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 43	Posted - 2014.05.06 19:08:00 - [46] - Quote ITT: Entitled manchildren. Dust 514 cancelled, EvE players be like
zzZaXxx The Phoenix Federation 359	Posted - 2014.05.06 19:11:00 - [47] - Quote ISuperstar wrote: zzZaXxx wrote: You're all just crying that these things won't come out on PS3. They're still committed to fulfilling all of their "promises" (like they owe us promises). For example, having a player market integrated with EVE is one reason WHY they chose to move to PC, so that they can actually do it. They wanted to do it all on PS3 and couldn't. Now they're moving to PC so that they can actually fulfill their promise... Thats exactly the ***** point, Despite numerous warnings and Naysayers from EVE players and Early beta players, Despite the fact that it was a Known fact Next Gen consoles were to be coming out soon, CCP's Bullshit staff assured us they would be able to accomplish all this and more on PS3 and stated they Had no plans of abandoning the console in any near future! We took their word for it and supported the game on PS3 for 2 years, Money, Time, Feedback. All a lot of effort was put into the community to help see this game progress and become better...ON PS3!! Then shortly after we finally get all the racial suits we waited 2 years for and the first Decent update in a year, we find out that these Scumbag developers have been willy nilly coding the Game we were supposed to have for A different ***** platform with no sign of consolation for the Console players that supported them. Do you Really think CCP Just coded that Legion prototype in just a few short months? NO! Hell no, these guys couldn't even code a simple LOGOUT BUTTON without taking 6 months! They've been working on Legion for PC for probably half a year or even more, all the while we console guinea pigs have been Beta Testing and unknowingly money feeding the Legion beta known to us as Dust! Do you not see why I'm angry!?!? To defend their BS is shameful for anyone who took part in the Dust journey. They still say they don't have any plans on abandoning the console in the near future. And when Legion is released on PC you'll be able to transfer over your character with all his stuff intact. Do you want to play DUST as it was meant to be played? Then when the time comes, buy a PC (doesn't have to be top of the line) and play it. Not that important to you to play a better DUST? Sweet, go play another game on console. Everyone is taking this so personally as if CCP are like fascists declaring the supremacy of the PC Master Race and putting patches on the arms of all console players so that they can be identified as untouchable. Puh-lease!!! It has nothing to do with that! They're making the change purely because of technical limitations of the PS3! If DUST stays on the PS3 it's development will eventually reach the limits of the platform and then DUST will slowly die. They had to make the change because of hardware, software, Sony getting in the way...these kinds of things. The fact that they were committed to PS3 before means that they were optimistic and trying to make it work on PS3. It also shows their lack of foresight in contingency planning for the possibility that PS3 wouldn't work long term. That's a lot different from a LIE. And honestly, even if there was some douche among their decision makers that wasn't forthcoming when he should have been, I really don't care. I don't need devs to be moral saints. I need them to work hard to make DUST great. That's what they're trying to do, so I'm content. And by the way, when Legion comes out on PC, I will have to buy a new rig and I will do so happily.
Poppa Smurfff The Rainbow Effect Dirt Nap Squad. 26	Posted - 2014.05.06 19:15:00 - [48] - Quote what i was promised for dust since start of closed beta was: huge battlefilelds MTACs Jets Commander Suit Piloit Suit the ability to buy turret installations and decide where to put em Paint bucket Weapon accessories all racial vehicles randomly generated maps more game modes a moving MCC Heavy aircaft An APC Command centre Player market the rest of the heavy weapons more suits Thats all i can think of at the top of my head. Some of these were even listed in game with COMING SOONtm and were even listed in the loading screen.
elric the enchanter xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 385	Posted - 2014.05.06 19:15:00 - [49] - Quote Broken promises and badly handled PR aside, it's forced me and many of the great friends I've made through Dust, to make a very difficult decision. Stick with a fun game & it's potential future incarnation, many having to purchase a PC just to run it? Or stick with amazing friends who have no way of achieving that? Basically, I know VERY few who will, or who can follow onto PC, so with a heavy heart, despite the immense fun we've had here, & even getting me into recording/utube... many of us will stick with Dust till the doors close... but then it's friendships first & foremost after that. Cosmic Void Minister of Silly Weapons Heinz Guderian predicted Tank514
Ivan Avogadro Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1130	Posted - 2014.05.06 19:19:00 - [50] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: Is it just that y'all are pissed because you don't have PCs? Or are you actually like preoperational 5 year olds that, when the water is poured from the tall thin beaker into the short fat beaker, think there's now less water? That's what I hear when people are raging, saying, "You promised these things would all come out in DUST, but NO! Now you're saying it's all gonna be in Legion! IT'S THE SAME GAME PEOPLE. GET THAT INTO YOUR HEAD IF YOU CAN. WTF is wrong with you? A platform shift isn't something that casually happens all the time, numbnuts. It's not the same game, its a sequel. What if Bungie had decided one day to announce that Halo was only going to be on the Playstation from now on? XBox owners would have been ripshit. Halo is half the reason to buy an XBox. THE REASON PEOPLE ARE PISSED IS BECAUSE CCP SAID PS3 BUT RECENTLY CHANGED THEIR MINDS. Just because you personally aren't affected doesn't mean that hundreds of other people weren't. People are mad because they spent hundreds of dollars to buy BPOs and Aurum in DUST, but that ** doesn't matter anymore. Maybe they will try to transfer that stuff, but who knows? It's a game that hasn't been made yet. They have no clue. Meanwhile everyone who has SP boosters left in DUST got butt **** out of actual dollars, since this game is ending and a new one is starting. Let's say were to buy $100 worth of aurum on your Legion account, and then CCP announces that OOPS Legion isn't coming out on PC anymore, it's coming out on iOS. And none of your stuff is good anymore. What then? Markdown:

BioClone Ax-45 Grupo de Asalto Chacal RISE of LEGION 56	Posted - 2014.05.06 19:23:00 - [51] - Quote 1. Racial Vehicles (HAVs , LAVs & Dropships) 2. Speeders. 3. Jets 4. APCs 5. Pilot Suits 6. Commander Suits. 7. Open market 8. Pve aka "Rogue drones" 9. Deploy turrets and other stuff while you re on battle. 10. Other types of turrets (EM, etc..) 11. Instalations 12. Industry 13. MTACs (but I dont see that as a promise) 14. Something like a fitting system for weapons to have the chance to add diferent Aims to the weapons. 15. "tractor beams" Like the webfillers of EvE (dont remember exactly the name now) Need more? Oh and Legion Its not D514...Just to clarify I understand why they move to PC but this cannot be discussed.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2505	Posted - 2014.05.06 19:25:00 - [52] - Quote Market. PvE. 10 year plan. Caldari map. Minmatar bridge map (I think?) Arena Able to leave footsteps imprinted in New Eden forever Enhanced NPE Etc, etc, etc...
Thumb Green The Valyrian Guard 1063	Posted - 2014.05.06 19:26:00 - [53] - Quote Trees, they promised us trees. They were supposed to be in the 1st Uprising update but all we got was grass and little shrubs. Can't say I'm all that surprised.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 5400	Posted - 2014.05.06 19:27:00 - [54] - Quote You know what? Have a fourth promise broken. "10 year plan" DUST 514 was promised to be a 10 year project which would be constantly evolving with new content. It WASN'T promised to be abandoned less than a year after being "released" in a state barely fit for beta, and it certainly wasn't promised to be abandoned for anotehr project that's essentially going to be doing the same things it was meant to be doing all along. CONSTANTLY EVOLVING WITH NEW CONTEN was the biggest part of the promise they're breaking here.
DoomLead Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 287	Posted - 2014.05.06 19:29:00 - [55] - Quote ps vita neocom app
Avinash Decker Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 118	Posted - 2014.05.06 19:30:00 - [56] - Quote It seems you have the issue that Legion is Dust which is false . Legion is an entirely different game that will have different mechanics . To a lot of people CCP did lie to them.
Mojo XXXIII Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 277	Posted - 2014.05.06 19:30:00 - [57] - Quote Instead of mocking us, maybe you PC guys should be THANKING us. After all, if it weren't for our support and feedback over the past two years, there probably wouldn't even be an Eve: Legion coming to the PC for you guys to play at all.
Mojo XXXIII Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 277	Posted - 2014.05.06 19:31:00 - [58] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Trees, they promised us trees. They were supposed to be in the 1st Uprising update but all we got was grass and little shrubs. That's all I've ever really wanted.
zzZaXxx The Phoenix Federation 361	Posted - 2014.05.06 19:31:00 - [59] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: What promises did they break? 1. "Laser focused on PS3" - they were directly telling us that still WHILE THE MAJORITY OF THE TEAM WAS WORKING ON THE NEW PC PROJECT INSTEAD OF THE PS3 GAME. 2. New content coming for PS3. This was promised many times over, including specific statements that the PS3 would be seeing "lots" of new content after 1.8 with ONCE AGAIN the entire plan being to focus on Legion at the time and ignore PS3 apart from minor balance tweaks and bug fixes. 3. Sony's Playstation 4 presentation included the future development of DUST 514 on that platform as a work in progress. While it's possible that WAS still the plan at the time, AS SOON AS THAT CHANGED, not telling us was a lie of omission, and pushing for us to buy more content involved USING THE EXPECTATION OF THE UPCOMING PS4 VERSION to support those sales. That makes it false advertising as well as a broken promise. I know you only asked for one, but you got 3. Satisfied? #1 was how long ago? How do you know they weren't? Maybe it was their laser focus on the PS3 and trying hard to make it work--and it still not working--that showed them that a change had to be made. As for Legion having been in development for a while, even now they haven't committed to it. They started Project Legion to see if it would work better than PS3 and to be able to compare the two. They did, and after some time of working on both they've concluded that a PC platform is necessary for the game to fully develop. If they weren't entirely transparent about all this....maybe mistakes were made there. I'm over it. #2 Did they say lots of new content for DUST 514 or did they specifically say PS3? Methinks they said DUST 514, and they are still committed to providing that content for DUST 514. I reject your distinction between DUST and Legion. They are the same game, except you have to have a PC for Legion.....and it will be way better. #3 It's easier to port a game from PC to PS4 than it is to port from PS3. They never made any promises about PS4 and that's still not in their control. CCP Rouge said (as much as he legally could) that once it's ready on PC they'll look into porting to console.
CHECHOMAN FUTURE PROJECT LEGION HISPANO CORP 377	Posted - 2014.05.06 19:40:00 - [60] - Quote One of the best post I've seen in this forum ... EVE-LEGION-HISPANO.ES.TL/(^o=)\



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