I understand where you're coming from on those quotes, and it absolutely wasn't my intention to lie to people. We are still fully committed to developing those games (as mentioned several times), and furthermore DUST and Project Legion are both very much part of the EVE Universe.

Again, I understand where you're coming from and it wasn't my intention to come across as "lying" to people - prior to the reveal it was difficult for me to explicitly state the distinction between the work on DUST 514 and Project Legion.

The only distinction I, and many others, would've cared about was that the one I/we put money into is on console and the other is on PC. Had I known that was the direction of dust, I can guarantee I wouldn't have put any money into this game. That is specifically how you/CCP lied to us. Pushing Aur sales while planning that same games demise. Likely treads the fine line of legality in certain places, but is most definitely an immaculate example of a failed corporate morality.

That is what I cannot accept, and why many of us want our money back. These are the comments and questions your corporation fails to answer even when presented to you by several individuals. Unfortunately, you cherry-picked the questions you will respond to, which is your prerogative, and not a fault directly. The fact you prefer to answer the same 3-5 questions each time instead of the legitimate concerns of several individuals, who have posed their queries in a respectful manner, is a shame. So I will ask again, for everyone who has so far.....

Why push Aur sales in a game that you knew had no future with your company, without notifying those same players of this eventuality? Also, how do all of those at CCP sleep at night or even look at yourselves in the mirror?

As far as you are concerned we are all trolls and crybabies so it's ok for a company like CCP to treat us as such? No. They will treat us like the paying customers we are or they will lose reputation with every person they expect to sell this game to.

So is that what you're telling a person who signed up for the game 2 weeks ago, encouraged by the still-fresh "laser focused on PS3" announcement, and E3's promises of DUST on PS4? Was their decision to help fund the game made with "full awareness of the risk? What about the guy who knew CCP had directly stated that development is continuing on DUST mere WEEKS ago? Was he "fully aware of the risk" when he decided to buy more Aurum right before Fanfest?

NO. NO WE WERE NOT "FULLY AWARE OF THE RISK" AT THAT STAGE.

In any case I hope they are reading all this. Our little debate, Garrett, should at least show them the depth of passion and understanding that many players have. I hope it heartens them, I hope it gives them the strength to face us in an honest way with the truth. Because at this point only the truth can help, like a bitter medicine pill that one has to swallow in order burn away the raging fever.

Look at the forums, they've exploded, it's not healthy. Please, just tell us something, anything.

Sadly, unlike the EVE players, we can't stage a massive online protest, grinding the central trade hub to a halt for a few weeks. That seems to be what is needed to get their attention, and then, as it is now, the main problem was silence. Once they started to talk, and deliver on those promises, things quieted down significantly. It is sad that it only took two years for them to forget that lesson.

Sadly, unlike the EVE players, we can't stage a massive online protest, grinding the central trade hub to a halt for a few weeks. That seems to be what is needed to get their attention, and then, as it is now, the main problem was silence. Once they started to talk, and deliver on those promises, things quieted down significantly. It is sad that it only took two years for them to forget that lesson.

You attack me without even bothering to understand - just assuming and blindly expressing your feeling of dissatisfaction.

Why don't you read some more of my post, and the discussion I had with Garrett, most of it is rather balanced and far from condescending or offensive.

I never said that feelings are wrong, all I am saying is that feelings are subjective and individual and therefore not the ultimate truth.

Not everyone feels the same about this... And before you continue judging - I have informed CCP about my dissatisfaction with DUST 10 months ago: I stopped playing both games ( In EVE I had 3 paying accounts)

I guarantee that the feeling of betrayal would have been equally present

As a playerbase we should DEMAND concrete assertions that our 6 months, 12 months, 18 months of Dust 514 WILL BE DIRECTLY TRANSFERRED into 6 months, 12 months, 18 months worth of progress there.

Not unsure language, not "would like" or "hope" or "looking into."

No, a "we will transfer the equivalent of 18 months of progression" and "we are going to give people permanent in-game items as recompense for BPOs" and even "you will keep your isk at an equivalent PURCHASING POWER"

Those are the types of words I want to hear. Stop talking like a bunch of lawyers and give me CONCRETE statements.

I call this nonsense, in so many points, that I simply don't have the time to point it all out.

And I'm sorry if you consider this an "attack", but you keep saying things like "i am the voice of reason!", and I'm sorry, but that is also wrong, you have a viewpoint, and you are expressing it to others, and marveling at how anybody could possibly not agree with you 100%. That is exactly what everybody is doing, except some people enjoy adding some strong language, and that is fine by me. Please accept your own bias and join the rest of us in the discussion.

Kev Crow: "Despite what people claim, companies that face such odds rarely concern themselves with unwritten rules and properer etiquette."

I don't care what "odds" they face, every company has to treat their customers with respect or suffer the consequences, do a google search for "business/corporation apologizes". MSNBC had to apologize because one of their correspondents was wearing a sombrero and shaking maracas on his segement, and some people were offended. Go figure.

You say that you want CCP to be more honest with us, but if they can lie to us without consequence, why should they?

tldr; It's okay to have a bias, but pretending you aren't biased only weakens your arguments... in my opinion. SMILEY FACE.

any answers in here?