Okay let's assume that tanks are paper, rock is infantry,and scissors are anti tank infantry. And Rail tanks (or anti tank tanks) are part of paper too, for the same reason that anti infantry infantry (aka most of you) are part of rock, you counter yourself.

Paper beats rock, rock beats scissors,scissors beat rock. However these 3 can team up in various combinations to gain advantage.

Rock VS rock stalemates, so rock A brings in paper A to gain an advantage . Rock + paper beats rock. To counter Rock A's advantage, rock B brings in scissors, so we end up with rock + paper VS rock + sc

You are aware you have just asked for tanks to become the very definition of an OverPowered weapon.

An overpowered weapon is where 1 weapon is so much more effective than any other weapon that the only way to combat it in 1v1 fights is to weild it.

You have offically damned your case forever, real tankers will suffer because of that statememt, more nerf to tanks will now rest squarely on your shoulders. This is not a game where you Spkr4theDead will never enjoy tanking!!

Please stop posting on my thread.

That is pretty much all you can say because he got you and you know it.

Thank God CCP will never do what you want them to. They're adults that understand how imbalanced the game would be if HAVs just rolled over infantry like they do in your dreams.

That is pretty much all you can say because he got you and you know it.

Thank God CCP will never do what you want them to. They're adults that understand how imbalanced the game would be if HAVs just rolled over infantry like they do in your dreams.

Please stop posting on my thread.

I don't tank and have many piloted 3 since open beta.
Stolen of course.



But as a DS pilot I can tell you when I see threads about DS from non pilots they are almost always ignorant of even basic mechanics let alone practical tactics or daily plights, balance, or bugs.

It's cute

This is what happens when you shoot a tank with a rifle. ...

Bookmarked for the next time someone wants to nerf vehicles.

i actually had 3 people in a match shooting my tank with an AR, staying still too, my blaster ripped em apart.
they cried my tank is op.

lolololol Wait, that just reminded me. A while back, someone was saying that all the breach weapons (yes, including the Breach PR and the breach SP) should be able to easily kill vehicle. I almost pissed myself laughing

most my matches ppl are shooting my tank with an AR

It gets annoying

You don't tank.

You have no idea what it's like to see a third of your armor melt away from one volley of PRO swarms. You don't know what it's like to see a third of your armor melt away from one packed Lai Dai.

You don't tank. Stop thinking you know how they're supposed to work.

It takes less than 300,000 SP to get Haywire Wiyrkomis. Fact

You don't know what it's like to have to deal with blue dots that want to get in your tank for half a battle. They get indignant that you won't give them anything to shoot at.

You don't tank.

So what do they do? They shoot your tank. They melee it. They shoot it some more. They throw grenades at it. They shoot it some more. They get back in the turret. They shoot the turret. They switch seats if they're the only other one in it. They switch seats rapidly in hopes of getting the driver's seat. They jump out and shoot the tank again. They punch the tank again. They get back in the tank and fire the turrets at nothing.

Every installation counts as a direct threat to us. I remember during Chromosome, I forgot which skill it was, that at level 5, caused turrets to not shoot at you when you ran towards them. That obviously did not work when in a vehicle.

We don't have ADV or PRO vehicles.

Driver and main turret operation cannot be split up, because we do not rely on blue dots. The culmination of however good any of us are is the direct result of observing how blue dots are, which is useless, and knowing who in our squad we can rely on. We use the terrain to our advantage. We use range to our advantage. We use the time it takes to reload to our advantage. We use speed to our advantage.

I absolutely will not rely on a blue dot I do not know to man my turret, because I'll be damned if I'm going to let a random drive my tank. Splitting operation would be the absolute worst thing CCP could do for tanking, and would destroy it completely. As a result, most tanks would probably biomass their character and either start going full infantry, or just never play this game again.

You don't tank. You don't have experience tanking.

MLT hull and modules =/= STD hull and modules.

What happened when everybody complained about contact grenades. They got nerfed into the ground. Next time a tanker complains about AV grenades, make sure you remember what I said about infantry contact grenades.

Double standards

Contact grenades are/were the only thing that homed in on infantry. We have to worry about swarm launchers, which track us for 400m before automatically terminating. When they hit, they hit hard, really hard. Wiyrkomis hit for around 7000 damage against armor before having to reload, if all 3 volleys hit.

Contact grenades got nerfed. AV grenades haven't.

Terrain damages vehicles. Not so much anymore for infantry.

Next time another non-pilot makes a thread about tanks, whatever it may be, remember this thread.

You don't have the experience we have. It's actually quite easy to destroy us, if you know how to do it, and considering the complaints on here about tanks, only a sad few actually know how to destroy us. If it takes a tanker to write out how to destroy us, you're doing it wrong now, you did it wrong before, and you'll probably continue to do it wrong until you reach that eureka moment, when you and 2 people beside you destroy a tank in 3 seconds. Until then, you'll vainly try to solo the best tankers in the game.

Also, the huge majority of us are in skirmish and domination, not ambush. When you say "tank" and "ambush" in the same sentence, I want you to take a few minutes and think really hard before posting a reply / threat with those words in the same sentence. The guys that habitually tank in ambush are the ones worried about KD/R. The rest of us just want to win and kill a few infantry along the way.

You don't tank.

I've heard that those who tank in ambush, do poorly when it comes to skirmish / domination / faction warfare / planetary conquest, because they don't have to worry about much in ambush. In the other modes, they have to worry about the world trying to kill them.

Remember what I said before you complain about tanks. We not only have to deal with your PRO gear, we have to deal with stupid blue dots as well.

Late Edit:

This is what happens when you shoot a tank with a rifle. Remember that.

AVer's should get 50+ for vehicles recalled within 2mins of their damaging the vehicle with AV.
But, 1 solo AV guy unless he puts an entire clip of an AFG with damage mods into a tanks with AV nades, should not be able to solo tanks... period. I am a forgunner too. but even i agree to this.

So what because some people don't drive tanks we should have no say in their development, despite the fact its a part of the game that affects everyone?

While I agree the view of some non tankers is a bit irrational, you cant expect to sit by and allow you to overpower tanks, becausethat iis the view of some tankers.

Its about a little give and take!!