Yes, you bring up some good points that we will consider for the next SP event. We are also looking at other ways of doing this as well, such as getting bonus SP for matches won or getting a flat bonus rate for x number of matches played per day, etc.

The primary goal of this event is to first test the new script and ensure it does not interfere with the game mechanics.

It is also interesting to note that while many are complaining about this event being a grind, they are also worried about hitting cap too soon, which means it will actually be less grindy if they average more than the mean 3000 SP per match.

I also don't see how AFKing will help players maximize their SP gain, yes you will earn more than you usually do, but it is unlikely that you get more than 3000 SP per match by doing nothing. The new anti-AFK mechanic should also curb this behavior as well. Which, if the theory crafters here are correct (that is their assumption that this encourages AFK) this event will actually help test the new anti-AFK mechanic.

No flint, this:

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1252220#post1252220

CCP employees like Cmdr Wang have done us wrong for long enough; heads must roll, the CPM has expressed great dislike with the game and its developers. Clearly Cmdr Wang and his henchmen are hurting this game by not listening to the community.

I bet they're reading this and thinking I'm just butthurt, well you know what? It's your job going down the drain not mine.

INCOMPETENTS!

Hey guys, quick update. I got really bored grinding ambushes in the redline, especially with the 80 clone ones where I usually had to DC anyway, so I decided to play only the 50 clone ones. Typically I can still play and get WP and remain under the 3000 SP limit just because the matches are usually short.

The trick is to queue alone, and to wait in the battlefinder until you see the "Game Mode: Ambush" show up. Should be right before you are deployed. If it's OMS, then press circle to cancel out of it.

I haven't tried doing this with a squad yet, so not sure if backing out in this manner will result in your squad being deployed without you in it. However, this seems to be a viable way to consistently get 50 clone ambushes without too much of a hassle. I've only had to cancel out of a few 80 clone matches, but I have been able to requeue right away, without the team chat bug that was plaguing me before whenever I tried to mess with the Neocom after queueing.

In terms of how high you can score, each minute will net you roughly 300 SP in passive gain alone. So in a 9 minute match, don't score more than 300 WP to stay under 3000. For 8 min, 600 WP, 7 min, 900 WP, etc. Of course it's hard to predict how long the match will take unless you know a stomp is coming, but if the game drags out it may behoove you not to go out of your way to get additional warpoints, or else you may have to DC. I haven't DC'ed yet and I've only had two matches where I exceeded my limit, by 50 and 150 SP or so.

YMMV.

P.S. - scanners are awesome. If I were squadded they would be a super fast way to quickly decide a match without gaining WP.

I'm not saying ccp is perfect but your statement about the cpm is fodder. The cpm which is comprised mainly of clueless spread sheet nerds from eve is the BIGGEST problem we have. Take Jenza for example she is a eve player for 8 years but sits on the cpm of this game? What do you think she has to offer us as fps players? Things like its very important to her as an eve player that we not do respecs in this game because they don't in eve? Like we care? The cpm is supposed to represent us they don't and they are the problem when it comes to letting ccp know what we want. Their eve minded influence makes our game suffer. Get them out get some exclusive fps players, who don't need aim assist btw, and that I think would help a lot.

[quote=Hobo on Fire]I also don't see how AFKing will help players maximize their SP gain, yes you will earn more than you usually do, but it is unlikely that you get more than 3000 SP per match by doing nothing. The new anti-AFK mechanic should also curb this behavior as well. Which, if the theory crafters here are correct (that is their assumption that this encourages AFK) this event will actually help test the new anti-AFK mechanic.

Totally agree on the above...

You get over 3k SP on a basic ambush if none does anything. Today I've played through an ambus that was 2 vs.14, me on the losing side. Got 250 WP, the game was terminated on the timer and I got myself 4,6k SP just for the fun of being a freaking target practice.

AFK:ing takes you over the 3k SP limit in almost every game that is not standard ambush with these huge maps. A lot of time is spent on searching the red dots as they don't anymore show up on team vision thus the game time is extended and therefore AFK players get more SP/battle than in previous builds.

unless I'm reading this event entirely wrong.

okay. What i dont like about the event is the 3g sp cap makes me feel like i have to play lazy to be rewarded. i want to be rewarded because im good. mostly because ive personally saved several games for my team it would be nice to feel more rewarded for events like that.

Yup noticed this too. really hard to stay under 3k SP/match unless one reverts to tricks like this. Other way to shorthen a match is to run heedlessly in front of the enemy in starter fits hoping they'll kill you so that you manage to deplete your teams clone reserves quick enough.

Hah or just play at MCC skydiving without a parachute. +1 for innovation.

No MCC in Ambush, but you can always also suicide blowing yourself up with your own grenade.

However I prefer letting the enemy kill me because I'm such a mean SOB. Letting them kill me they accumulate WP and have higher chance of hauling over the 3k SP limit.

Yup, fail event in every aspect. I'm sure the team mates didn't quite know how to appreciate as I tried how many times you could actually suicide during Ambush OMS. The number I got with assault militia stater fit is 26 and actually couple of times the two militia locus grenades aren't enough to kill you. Apparently if you stand right on top of a grenade it doesn't do as much damage as if you're standing next to it. Also sometimes the grenade seems to sink under the floor doing much less damage or no damage at all. On those I had to run and search the red dots to let them kill me.

And yes.. with this style I got 2600 SP so pretty close to maximum efficiency on ambush OMS, just not very nice towards the team mates that might have wanted to play the game for real.

remotes ftw?

I parked my dropship on top of the new reactor cores (the burning spinning effect), it damages the ship only slightly but kills the passengers; a mobile CRU on the dropship is mandatory for the funzies. I capped out last night, the worst grind in Dust 514 history.

And yes, I'm evil; this is EVE after all.

i have a question but its not about the point payout for sp, that part i understand for the most, the thing that i am wondering is when the payout for the events are going to happen more over the one that started towards the end of august and ended the beginning of sept. that was talking about finishing with a certain win %age after playing so many matches. i cant remember what the event was called exactly but it was around the same time that caldari boot camp was happening. any information on this would be greatly appreciated.

I could grump and groan about plenty of things in this game but as far event planning goes I think this one was a step in the right direction for everyone who just wants to have fun playing this game.