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Agimus Bullet Cluster 0	Posted - 2013.08.30 22:32:00 - [91] - Quote Marston VC wrote: daishi mk03 wrote: Quote: You earn 3000 SP from a match after the weekly cap. With a Skill Booster, you earn 1500 extra SP; without you earn 1000 extra SP. How can you earn 3000 SP after the weekly cap? After the cap, you can only earn 1000, right? That's what he said, you earn 3000 SP worth of experience, however because of the weekly cap, you only get 1000 + an additional 1000 or 1500 based on weather you have a booster on or not. They were very specific about boosters, but he didn't mention if the 3000 was with boosters or not, so maybe we're suppose to earn 2000 or less with booster, making each game 3,000 or less total.... This event is getting out of control already, lol. OMG! Someone put on the breaks!
Chris F2112 A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 381	Posted - 2013.08.30 22:47:00 - [92] - Quote I like the thought, but you are trying too hard CCP. Just make the event double or triple all SP you get from downtime to downtime. It will accomodate everyone who plays just fine, it won't feel like any more a.grind than usual, and you don't have to worry about people not having to play the game to maximize their SP. This event was poorly thought out from the start, and it needs to be reworked.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 331	Posted - 2013.08.30 22:47:00 - [93] - Quote Ok. This event isn't really good. The main problem is that it encourages afking. But a new version of it. Due to the 3000 sp thing people don't want to get more than 3000 sp in every match. Because that would mean losing out on ap. Afking in skirmish or domination would five you more than 3000 sp. That would be bad. So what people want to do is get as little sp and also wp as possible. They will rather get shot than earning 50 wp for a kill. So we will possibly see a lot of people going into ambush and not even trying to do anything else besides staying alive. As long as there is the first 3000 sp get bonus sp this event isn't fun at all.
Dante Vento Firefly Shipping co. 21	Posted - 2013.08.30 22:48:00 - [94] - Quote I'm going to wait and see if the Devs rework this event before I get my rage on. They have enough feedback now that if they don't change the event, they are seriously stupid and I plan to let them know about it. I do have to say that the quick Dev response at the beginning of the thread was a good sign that someone realized they'd messed up......big time. It's what they do next that I'm interested in.
Agimus Bullet Cluster 0	Posted - 2013.08.30 22:50:00 - [95] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: gbh08 wrote: Is this whole thing pretty much a case of "dont cap untill the event" ? Actually, if you play AT ALL before the event, you lose out. CCP figured out how to kill their most active two days of their game for the week. We're looking into this! We'd ideally want to make it so that you're not going to have a situation like this. I'd like to say that this isn't going to be an issue - but I'm going to want to confirm before promising anything. :) I'd just like to add that if we're going to have two cap resets this week please TELL US so that we don't miss out on a 4x SP week.
Moonracer2000 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 663	Posted - 2013.08.30 22:52:00 - [96] - Quote Something that others have not brought up: Having the bonus SP calculate in the background and not show up until after the event seems bad. You want those bonus numbers to show up after each match because that makes it feel more gratifying. Without that constant positive reinforcement, players will only be able to speculate and maybe worry whether they aren't getting the bonus or doing something wrong. If we just get a lump of SP after the weekend it might quickly go unnoticed. We humans are just petty like that. Other than that I'm interested to see how this works. I'm glad you are trying different things even if they seem odd. Previous events encouraged players to run their best equipment all the time as the more SP you gained the better. With an optimal 3000 SP cap I'm guessing equipment usage will be much more moderate.
fawkuima juggalo DUST University Ivy League 0	Posted - 2013.08.30 23:43:00 - [97] - Quote INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: fawkuima juggalo wrote: Look ccp def needs some CONSTRUCTIVE critiquing every now and then. BUT TO ALL YOU LAME DOUCHES WHO JUST GET UP HERE AND TALK A BUNCH OF CRAP, YOUR ALL f#(% IN THE HEAD. I LOVE this game and YOUR playing it so im guessing you do to, plus its FREE why dont you sit back enjoy your free game and realize that anything that they do to improve just means your getting more of your moneys (that you probably didnt ( or mabye did ) spend) worth out of it. so quit your whining and hey if you get killed by a vehicle going 3 mph, its okay to be like hey yo your lav needs a buffer. but dont be a deck about it. YOU GUYS ARE DOING GREAT THANK YOU FOR THE EVENT CUZ WE ALL NEED THE EXTRA POINTS . IT WAS A LITTLE UNCLEAR BUT SCREW IT YOU HAD ME AT EXTRA! Dude I've dropped over 200 on this game don't talk to me about free, this event is bad and as a paying customer I intend to voice that. Maybe they need us complaining to get it right. NA Who the hell likes or wants to be a whiney little baby which is wat most of you sound like. as far as 200 bucks thats all on you who the hell has got 200 to throw down on a single game anyway. that buys you the right to a paying opinion which everyones entitled to if you want to sound like a b!+(# thats also on you. now your just a B!+(# who payed 200 bucks for a free game. LIKE I SAID... YES THEY OBVIOUSLY NEED SOME FINE TUNING BUT HALF OF YOU SOUND LIKE LITTLE KIDS NOT GETTING EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT. YOU SOUND LIKE THAT KID WHO WANTED A 1000 DOLLAR BIKE, BUT FLIPPED OUT CUZ YOU GOT A 900 DOLLAR ONE. STFU . you dont have to pay money for this game if you paid 200 bucks and only got 100 bucks o stuff then please whine away but all this crap, ppl whineing over a GIFT. YO IM ALL FOR EXTRA SP. could they have made it better YES DO I F-ING CARE NO!!
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1371	Posted - 2013.08.30 23:48:00 - [98] - Quote lol you guys on crack when you think up these ideas?
ReGnYuM TeamPlayers EoN. 810	Posted - 2013.08.30 23:56:00 - [99] - Quote Oh snap Eterne you dog!
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1371	Posted - 2013.08.31 00:05:00 - [100] - Quote Sana Rayya wrote: I just AFKed in 4 ambushes and here are my results: 50 clone - Alive time 6:56, 2228 SP before booster 80 clone - Alive time 10:08, 2788 SP before booster 50 clone - Alive time 5:50, 1948 SP before booster 80 clone - Alive time 11:04, 3264 SP before booster All I did in these rounds was to find a corner in the redline and sit on my ass. So, CCP, if the match drags out passed around 10 minutes, then even AFKers exceed the SP cap for this event. Any player actually trying to get points is punished by doing so since they are prematurely exhausting their cap without any bonus earned. You have designed an event that encourages AFKing, and potentially quitting a match early, to maximize the SP gained. Can we get rid of the 3000 SP limit already? mass AFK jump to ambush from skirmish... i like it and if the match is taking to long leave and re-que. i seen that myself. time to get my stopwatch out to time my AFKing since i know i'll be able to figure out a way around the anti-AFK system. CCP event designer= ON DRUGS 24/7. caldari prime(and those before it) was pretty much only good event and in fact a great event. the 2x and 3x sp events are nice but not well put together.

S Park Finner Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 217	Posted - 2013.08.31 00:30:00 - [101] - Quote So the optimal strategy is... Everyone jumps into an ambush match and sits around roasting marshmallows on their lasers and singing kumbaya for 10 minutes. Everyone quits the game. Repeat 66 times.
Sardonk Eternia Multnomah Interstellar Holdings Inc. 181	Posted - 2013.08.31 00:34:00 - [102] - Quote This isn't an "event" Caldari Prime was an event. This is dumb.
dw ad Phantom Universe Task Force Orion Empire 0	Posted - 2013.08.31 00:36:00 - [103] - Quote H+íkarl 514 CCP, why do you serve this event, only to laugh about my face? Please cancel this event. I only want to enjoy and explore the 1.4 patchlog changes next week. Talking about improvements, configure my controller again and cursing about mistakes in corp chat.
Asirius Medaius Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 320	Posted - 2013.08.31 01:33:00 - [104] - Quote S Park Finner wrote: So the optimal strategy is... Everyone jumps into an ambush match and sits around roasting marshmallows on their lasers and singing kumbaya for 10 minutes. Everyone quits the game. Repeat 66 times. This is only the optimal strategy if everyone in Dust 514 wants to gain mega SP; I wish people wouldn't resort to these methods to get SP, but when the game is as incomplete as this and as lackluster without content compared to many other games (not to mention terrible events like this that don't even really contribute any fun or creativity), then your game is bound to be exploited by the best of the Dust 514 community. There will be people who will make so much SP from this than people who check the forums irregularly...
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1376	Posted - 2013.08.31 01:45:00 - [105] - Quote Asirius Medaius wrote: S Park Finner wrote: So the optimal strategy is... Everyone jumps into an ambush match and sits around roasting marshmallows on their lasers and singing kumbaya for 10 minutes. Everyone quits the game. Repeat 66 times. This is only the optimal strategy if everyone in Dust 514 wants to gain mega SP; I wish people wouldn't resort to these methods to get SP, but when the game is as incomplete as this and as lackluster without content compared to many other games (not to mention terrible events like this that don't even really contribute any fun or creativity), then your game is bound to be exploited by the best of the Dust 514 community. There will be people who will make so much SP from this than people who check the forums irregularly... sad but true.
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 164	Posted - 2013.08.31 03:17:00 - [106] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Who the heck suggested making it shorter? The last thing we need is for it to only cater to people who have time to cap a character in one day, and screw those of us who play throughout the week. This also tells those people they shouldn't play at all at the start of the week, so they don't waste their cap. I am frankly amazed this passed any sort of check to prevent CCP from being stupid. It's missing the one piece of feedback we've all universally agreed is needed, and put in a bunch of things that screw everyone else. Not to mention its opening weekend of the NFL. Good luck with that guys. Speaking of which guess I won't get the benefit, as I will be at a game.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 3836	Posted - 2013.08.31 03:24:00 - [107] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Who the heck suggested making it shorter? The last thing we need is for it to only cater to people who have time to cap a character in one day, and screw those of us who play throughout the week. This also tells those people they shouldn't play at all at the start of the week, so they don't waste their cap. I am frankly amazed this passed any sort of check to prevent CCP from being stupid. It's missing the one piece of feedback we've all universally agreed is needed, and put in a bunch of things that screw everyone else. Not to mention its opening weekend of the NFL. Good luck with that guys. Speaking of which guess I won't get the benefit, as I will be at a game. You're assuming that most folks who spend most of their time playing a first-person shooter will take time off to watch a game of athletes smashing into each other, suffer concussions, and later filing a class-action lawsuit against the NFL. Yeah, I'll stick to Dust, thank you.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 3836	Posted - 2013.08.31 03:27:00 - [108] - Quote dw ad wrote: H+íkarl 514 CCP, why do you serve this event, only to laugh about my face? Please cancel this event. I only want to enjoy and explore the 1.4 patchlog changes next week. Talking about improvements, configure my controller again and cursing about mistakes in corp chat. Just play the damn game like you normally do. It's not like you're making any impact anyways.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 3837	Posted - 2013.08.31 03:29:00 - [109] - Quote Sana Rayya wrote: I just AFKed in 4 ambushes and here are my results: 50 clone - Alive time 6:56, 2228 SP before booster 80 clone - Alive time 10:08, 2788 SP before booster 50 clone - Alive time 5:50, 1948 SP before booster 80 clone - Alive time 11:04, 3264 SP before booster All I did in these rounds was to find a corner in the redline and sit on my ass. So, CCP, if the match drags out passed around 10 minutes, then even AFKers exceed the SP cap for this event. Any player actually trying to get points is punished by doing so since they are prematurely exhausting their cap without any bonus earned. You have designed an event that encourages AFKing, and potentially quitting a match early, to maximize the SP gained. Can we get rid of the 3000 SP limit already? Have you read the patch notes lately? There will be some anti-AFK measures in place.
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 164	Posted - 2013.08.31 03:39:00 - [110] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Henchmen21 wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Who the heck suggested making it shorter? The last thing we need is for it to only cater to people who have time to cap a character in one day, and screw those of us who play throughout the week. This also tells those people they shouldn't play at all at the start of the week, so they don't waste their cap. I am frankly amazed this passed any sort of check to prevent CCP from being stupid. It's missing the one piece of feedback we've all universally agreed is needed, and put in a bunch of things that screw everyone else. Not to mention its opening weekend of the NFL. Good luck with that guys. Speaking of which guess I won't get the benefit, as I will be at a game. You're assuming that most folks who spend most of their time playing a first-person shooter will take time off to watch a game of athletes smashing into each other, suffer concussions, and later filing a class-action lawsuit against the NFL. Yeah, I'll stick to Dust, thank you. No not popular in the slightest.

Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 371	Posted - 2013.08.31 03:51:00 - [111] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Have you read the patch notes lately? There will be some anti-AFK measures in place. Yeah AFK isn't really the right phrase, but it's an easy (and trendy I guess) way to say 'avoid gaining active sp in battle' ... I suppose it's one way to test functiionality of these anti-AFK measures ... give us an event that promotes the 'hunt for a loophole' Should have just called apples apples and given an extra bonus sp for finding ways round it lol.
Doc Browner Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 113	Posted - 2013.08.31 03:57:00 - [112] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: i haven't understood one post about this sp event yet. please just tell me the optimal way to get the most sp without making it too complicated. i learn by doing not reading or watching. thank you in advance 1) dont play until the event 2) do not earn more than 3000 sp per battle
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 3838	Posted - 2013.08.31 04:16:00 - [113] - Quote Needless Sacermendor wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Have you read the patch notes lately? There will be some anti-AFK measures in place. Yeah AFK isn't really the right phrase, but it's an easy (and trendy I guess) way to say 'avoid gaining active sp in battle' ... I suppose it's one way to test functiionality of these anti-AFK measures ... give us an event that promotes the 'hunt for a loophole' Should have just called apples apples and given an extra bonus sp for finding ways round it lol. Just keep in mind that there might be some secret algorithm to the anti-AFK mechanic. One of the devs (I forgot which) mentioned that that it will be rubber band proof in some way. By rubber band proof they could mean that the system might be able to tell the difference between a player trying to walking to an objective and a player just walking endlessly into a wall in the MCC because the player put a rubber band on his DS3.
Badgerr Rager Black Phoenix Mercenaries 29	Posted - 2013.08.31 04:22:00 - [114] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Who the heck suggested making it shorter? The last thing we need is for it to only cater to people who have time to cap a character in one day, and screw those of us who play throughout the week. This also tells those people they shouldn't play at all at the start of the week, so they don't waste their cap. I am frankly amazed this passed any sort of check to prevent CCP from being stupid. It's missing the one piece of feedback we've all universally agreed is needed, and put in a bunch of things that screw everyone else. One of the concerns that came up in feedback about the 7 day cycle was that it meant people had to play every day to earn the maximum reward. So it's the same amount that you would get over 7 days, just condensed to 3. Allowing for a more concentrated weekend event. Give it a try, see what you think - we look forward to your feedback! If I barely cap out having the full 7 days, how would I be caping out in 3 days when I am usually not on the weekends, as I see some players are not able to as well... Basically, CCP wants us to be on our PS3's playing Dust all Weekend just to cap out. Thats the stupidest thing I have ever heard 1) If we cap out before the event (weekday players), you miss out on the event basically 2) Weekday gamers are screwed 3) Feeling Fatigued for 3 days straight is not lighter than the 7 days. (No logic behind it really) 4) We do not gain that much more sp from this event. We get 1.5sp more. WOOPY. Make it a solid double or triple. 5) Everyone is confused to crap about this and seems like you guys obviously didn't listen to EVERYONES feedback and suggestions. This sort of crap makes me mad Can I get likes ?... Ill give you bacon and cupcakes
SOMBRA del MUERTE The Exemplars Top Men. 10	Posted - 2013.08.31 04:25:00 - [115] - Quote CCP- Thanks for continuing to try fun events more often than any other game I've played and for tying it in to the EvE universe. Keep going with this line of thinking and incorporate the feedback as you have been. The more you can tie it to the lore, the more like game content it feels, which, despite the necessity for improvements to mechanics, game content is something that gets folks excited about playing and can take our minds off of bugs while you work to fix them. Events, Faction Warfare, and PvE will go a long way to buying time between patches as it will give us more game to play between math debates
BARDAS DUST University Ivy League 383	Posted - 2013.08.31 04:28:00 - [116] - Quote What is with CCP's hard on for Caldari? Seriously. Also, who are these people you are getting feedback from? /facepalm Stopped caring about these events after the first one. The only good one was the last triple SP event IMO.
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Pure Innocence. EoN. 302	Posted - 2013.08.31 04:42:00 - [117] - Quote People complained it took 7 days to cap because for the 2x SP event you didn't double the passive in game SP, so the grind time was almost twice as long to cap. As such, what you SHOULD do if you want to allow ease of access to event rewards, is extend the event, not shorten it to 3 days, which forces you to wait the weekdays then powergrind to cap. Instead you should make the event last for 2 weeks, starting on cap reset, ending on cap reset. but you can keep the overall bonus SP pool from event, the same. This way players feel less inclined to power grind, as they can get the rewards over a 2 week span.
Nirwanda Vaughns Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 82	Posted - 2013.08.31 05:35:00 - [118] - Quote Honestly... sounds complicated as f***!!! Think i'll just grind away as normal and hope for the best
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 166	Posted - 2013.08.31 05:38:00 - [119] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: People complained it took 7 days to cap because for the 2x SP event you didn't double the passive in game SP, so the grind time was almost twice as long to cap. As such, what you SHOULD do if you want to allow ease of access to event rewards, is extend the event, not shorten it to 3 days, which forces you to wait the weekdays then powergrind to cap. Instead you should make the event last for 2 weeks, starting on cap reset, ending on cap reset. but you can keep the overall bonus SP pool from event, the same. This way players feel less inclined to power grind, as they can get the rewards over a 2 week span. Exactly, people made it clear during the last event what they did wrong. Somehow that turned into this, it boggles the mind.
Spectral Clone the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY 212	Posted - 2013.08.31 05:49:00 - [120] - Quote IMO this is too complicated. Feels like you need a written manual to understand how an event in a game works. We know how these things have gone before, for example 3x SP event where people capped before the event started and lost SP (before CCP fixed this). CCP seem to make these events even too complicated for themselves to understand. Please make an easily comprehended weekend event where you can reach your cap by playing for <4 hours (10x sp or something). That would be an epic weekend (for casual players).



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