DUST Search - Announcement:Event: Experience Uprising 1.4 with the Caldari Bootcamp

CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:

We have clarified the event details for easier understanding on how the SP event will work, you can check them out here.

We will also move the event start date forward so that it will begin on Wednesday, September 4 after downtime and end next Monday September 9 at downtime. We will give out the bonus SP from this event next Tuesday, September 10. This should prevent players who play more frequently from being punished in the event due to hitting the weekly SP cap sooner.

I also want to explain the reason behind changing the length of the SP events. Previously, we are tied to a week long SP event due to the weekly SP cap being reset on Wednesdays. While we understand that the general consensus from the community is that longer events are preferred because they seem less grindy, we also want to offer more variety with events as many of you have requested.

While we are developing the required features to do the types of events that many of you have asked for (such as missions and LP type rewards) we want the ability to alter current events now. This Caldari Bootcamp event is one such effort. If successful, we will be able to do different types of SP events, instead of only offering week long ones. We aim to do shorter SP events but more frequently. We also want to do different types of SP rewards such as giving 5x SP for the first win of the day. This will depend on how well this event works out first, as we want to be sure that shortening the event duration will not adversly affect other game mechanics.

Another reason to do shorter events is logistics. We aim to do more events with shorter duration so we can increase their frequency as shorter events will be less taxing on the devs who do the support work. We also want to give more equality to casual players who may not be able to play all week in order to achieve the required event goals, so shorter events will help make furture events feel less grindy.

Lastly, reguarding why the SP bonus is capped at 3000 per match. This is in order for us to estimate the expected amount of SP that players can gain from this event. Since the bonus SP can still be earned even after the weekly SP cap is hit, we need to ensure that there is a limit on how much SP a player can earn from this event. What I can tell you is that if you play 100 matches over the course of the event and earn an average of 3000 SP per match (with boosters) before hitting the cap, and average 1000 SP per match after hitting the cap, then the amount of SP you can expect to earn is roughly equal to a week long Triple SP event. If you play an average of 14-16 matches a day and earn the same amount of SP per match as mentioned above, then you can expect to earn roughly the same amount of SP as a week long Double SP event. So I hope that many of you will see the benefit of doing such an SP event, you can earn the same amount of SP in less time than a conventional week long SP event.

In the meantime, enjoy the bonus SP from this week's event and I'll see you on the battlefield.


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Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 968	Posted - 2013.08.30 17:08:00 - [1] - Quote 1. Have it going a full week, wednesday to wednesday. Having it on just 3 days (the weekend) means you should avoid playing until the event starts, otherwise you kinda miss out on SP. I don't suppose you want people to not play until the event starts. 2. I don't understand why there is a 3k maximum? As someone else said, this would kinda punish Skirmish and Domination players, since they might get more than 3k SP in a match. Get rid of the maximum (other than the 1k maximum after the cap, since that is already the maximum you can get). 3. All these examples just makes it even more confusing. Just say "double SP for all SP earned with a maximum of 1k after the cap (+ maximum of 3k before the cap if you decide to keep this maximum)".
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 972	Posted - 2013.08.30 21:32:00 - [2] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: i haven't understood one post about this sp event yet. please just tell me the optimal way to get the most sp without making it too complicated. i learn by doing not reading or watching. thank you in advance Don't play wednesday or thursday next week, but wait until after downtime friday. Then play Ambush only and make sure you get no more than 3k SP pre any equipped booster. Cap before downtime monday to achieve the maximum amount of SP. You can also get bonus SP after hitting the cap, so if you want, you can continue playing as much as you want until downtime monday. Of course, there's still time for CCP to change the event, so what I just said might not be the optimal way after all.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 991	Posted - 2013.09.02 13:03:00 - [3] - Quote CCP Cmdr Wang wrote: We have clarified the event details for easier understanding on how the SP event will work, you can check them out here. We will also move the event start date forward so that it will begin on Wednesday, September 4 after downtime and end next Monday September 9 at downtime. We will give out the bonus SP from this event next Tuesday, September 10. This should prevent players who play more frequently from being punished in the event due to hitting the weekly SP cap sooner. I also want to explain the reason behind changing the length of the SP events. Previously, we are tied to a week long SP event due to the weekly SP cap being reset on Wednesdays. While we understand that the general consensus from the community is that longer events are preferred because they seem less grindy, we also want to offer more variety with events as many of you have requested. While we are developing the required features to do the types of events that many of you have asked for (such as missions and LP type rewards) we want the ability to alter current events now. This Caldari Bootcamp event is one such effort. If successful, we will be able to do different types of SP events, instead of only offering week long ones. We aim to do shorter SP events but more frequently. We also want to do different types of SP rewards such as giving 5x SP for the first win of the day. This will depend on how well this event works out first, as we want to be sure that shortening the event duration will not adversly affect other game mechanics. Another reason to do shorter events is logistics. We aim to do more events with shorter duration so we can increase their frequency as shorter events will be less taxing on the devs who do the support work. We also want to give more equality to casual players who may not be able to play all week in order to achieve the required event goals, so shorter events will help make furture events feel less grindy. Lastly, reguarding why the SP bonus is capped at 3000 per match. This is in order for us to estimate the expected amount of SP that players can gain from this event. Since the bonus SP can still be earned even after the weekly SP cap is hit, we need to ensure that there is a limit on how much SP a player can earn from this event. What I can tell you is that if you play 100 matches over the course of the event and earn an average of 3000 SP per match (with boosters) before hitting the cap, and average 1000 SP per match after hitting the cap, then the amount of SP you can expect to earn is roughly equal to a week long Triple SP event. If you play an average of 14-16 matches a day and earn the same amount of SP per match as mentioned above, then you can expect to earn roughly the same amount of SP as a week long Double SP event. So I hope that many of you will see the benefit of doing such an SP event, you can earn the same amount of SP in less time than a conventional week long SP event. In the meantime, enjoy the bonus SP from this week's event and I'll see you on the battlefield. You can't start SP events on any other day than wednesdays as long as we have a weekly SP cap reset on wednesday. If there was no cap, you could start the event any day you like and run it for as long as you like, but as long as we have a weekly cap and it resets on wednesdays, you're forced to start all SP events on wednesdays. We already said why the maximum of 3k SP per match is rather stupid and I fail to see how the "need to ensure that there is a limit on how much SP a player can from this event" has to result in the 3k maximum. You already have the 1k maximum after the weekly cap to ensure SP earnings are kept quite low. There is absolutely no reason for another limit beyond the 1k maximum. As already said, all the 3k maximum will do is to force people to "AFK" in Ambush to ensure they gain the maximum amount of bonus SP that they can. There is absolutely no reason to make SP events fancy and as complicated as this one. SP events should just be straightforward double/triple/whatever events that players can freely participate in without being forced to alter their playstyle as this event does. The simpler these SP events are, the better they will be.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 997	Posted - 2013.09.03 06:26:00 - [4] - Quote @Cmdr Wang. The last SP event was only grindy because you doubled the cap, but not the SP earnings. This SP event wouldn't be a grind if only it starts wednesday and goes on until monday or next wednesday, which it now does. It was only grindy when the event was only over three days. No one has ever said 5-7 days SP events are grindy, unless you mess them up like the last one you did. Your reason for having that 3k maximum is still a bunch of bs. As we already told you a million times you're punishing the Skirmish and Domination players. I don't care what your metrics say about the average SP earnings when the modes are different in both gameplay and length, and thus will be giving out widely different SP earnings. Having the 3k maximum in place to "ensure players don't earn too much SP" is still a bunch of bs you're throwing at us when we already have the 1k maximum after the cap. This is a double SP event and it will never feel like a triple SP event if you only play 100 matches. If you get 3k SP per match then you need to play 63 matches to cap. To play 100 matches during the event as you used as an example eariler there's then 37 matches left to play, which will give you another 37k SP. That's 417.200 total SP (190.200 + 227.000 will get this event, which is nowhere near triple SP (190.200 * 3 = 570.600). The 1k maximum is already in place to keep the SP earnings low, there's absolutely no need for the 3k maximum as well!
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 998	Posted - 2013.09.03 08:18:00 - [5] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: STABBEY wrote: Jean afer Salpun wrote: It will be interesting to see how the new match making evens out the scoring. Either way I make 2-3 times the 3k per match they have set soooo AFKing is a must, and it will probably take 3-5 days just to AFK all the SP from 10 minute ambush matches with no kills. This is gonna suck. Sending corp wide mail to AFK ambush's now. Stupid.. There are dozens of posts like this. I don't get it. What advantage is there to avoiding kills? If you got 6000SP per match, you would get 2x3000+3000=9000SP, so 3000SP more than if you avoid getting kills. The match takes the same amount of time either way. So this seems like a wonderful way to take a lot of SP away from yourself and your corp. Not really as you then remove 3k from the weekly cap that you can't get bonus SP for. There's not a problem with getting more than 3k SP per match if you know you're not going to cap out anyway. If you plan to cap out, you'll be better off not getting more than 3k per match to maximize your SP gains.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1018	Posted - 2013.09.05 11:14:00 - [6] - Quote Parson Atreides wrote: unless I'm reading this event entirely wrong. You're not, at all, which is why we told them the 3k limit was stupid. The 1k limit after the cap was already in place to prevent people from earning millions of SP, so there was absolutely no need for the extra 3k limit.