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CCP Mintchip
C C P C C P Alliance
1109
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Posted - 2013.08.30 16:35:00 -
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Caldari Bootcamp is a serious challenge for serious people. Do you want to improve upon yourself to better take advantage of 1.4? Are you ready to test yourself? I hope so! This is going to be a lot of fun! Please read the details of this event where CCP Eterne lays it all out for you. CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep |
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daishi mk03
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
147
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Posted - 2013.08.30 16:39:00 -
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Quote:You earn 3000 SP from a match after the weekly cap. With a Skill Booster, you earn 1500 extra SP; without you earn 1000 extra SP.
How can you earn 3000 SP after the weekly cap? After the cap, you can only earn 1000, right? |
Soraya Xel
New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men.
399
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Posted - 2013.08.30 16:41:00 -
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Who the heck suggested making it shorter? The last thing we need is for it to only cater to people who have time to cap a character in one day, and screw those of us who play throughout the week. This also tells those people they shouldn't play at all at the start of the week, so they don't waste their cap.
I am frankly amazed this passed any sort of check to prevent CCP from being stupid. It's missing the one piece of feedback we've all universally agreed is needed, and put in a bunch of things that screw everyone else. |
Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
803
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Posted - 2013.08.30 16:49:00 -
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Could you make the explanation any more confusing? please try again, graphics do help. O and shorter is not better! |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
2582
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Posted - 2013.08.30 16:50:00 -
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daishi mk03 wrote:Quote:You earn 3000 SP from a match after the weekly cap. With a Skill Booster, you earn 1500 extra SP; without you earn 1000 extra SP. How can you earn 3000 SP after the weekly cap? After the cap, you can only earn 1000, right?
I may have overlooked something when paring down the number of examples and put in one that's impossible. But know that in the event it ever did happen, this is how much bonus you'd get. EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
77
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Posted - 2013.08.30 16:51:00 -
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daishi mk03 wrote:Quote:You earn 3000 SP from a match after the weekly cap. With a Skill Booster, you earn 1500 extra SP; without you earn 1000 extra SP. How can you earn 3000 SP after the weekly cap? After the cap, you can only earn 1000, right? What he said. Also, so basically it will just double the sp you make in a match up to 3000? with the booster function included of course. |
D34NOS MAZDA
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
56
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Posted - 2013.08.30 16:51:00 -
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So if we cap out on wed & Thurs we are screwed and loosing potential bonus SP?!?!?!? Well I was looking forward to my time off work. Guess I might as well not play dust and go out somewhere say the pub |
gbh08
CAUSE 4 C0NCERN
89
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Posted - 2013.08.30 16:52:00 -
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im not understanding the examples given in the blog post lol
more so, this bit "You earn 3000 SP from a match after the weekly cap" as we only earn 1000sp max after we hit cap....
i dunno
Is this whole thing pretty much a case of "dont cap untill the event" ? |
Soraya Xel
New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men.
400
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Posted - 2013.08.30 16:52:00 -
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CCP Eterne, why would you schedule an event that would basically tell people they shouldn't play 1.4 for the first two days?
Why would you omit any sort of anti-AFKer feature in the rules for this event, like everyone has begged for? Sure, 1.4 is supposed to have fixes for it in general, but why are we tempting fate on this? Are you hoping it will get people to discover ways to defeat the 1.4 AFK fix, so that they can AFK through the weekend's double SP event? |
Soraya Xel
New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men.
400
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Posted - 2013.08.30 16:53:00 -
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gbh08 wrote:Is this whole thing pretty much a case of "dont cap untill the event" ?
Actually, if you play AT ALL before the event, you lose out. CCP figured out how to kill their most active two days of their game for the week. |
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CCP Mintchip
C C P C C P Alliance
1109
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Posted - 2013.08.30 16:54:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Who the heck suggested making it shorter? The last thing we need is for it to only cater to people who have time to cap a character in one day, and screw those of us who play throughout the week. This also tells those people they shouldn't play at all at the start of the week, so they don't waste their cap.
I am frankly amazed this passed any sort of check to prevent CCP from being stupid. It's missing the one piece of feedback we've all universally agreed is needed, and put in a bunch of things that screw everyone else.
One of the concerns that came up in feedback about the 7 day cycle was that it meant people had to play every day to earn the maximum reward. So it's the same amount that you would get over 7 days, just condensed to 3. Allowing for a more concentrated weekend event.
Give it a try, see what you think - we look forward to your feedback! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep |
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Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
803
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Posted - 2013.08.30 16:55:00 -
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I'm basically reading, don't play the first two days and we double SP you earn during that time frame. So silly to added all the confusion with booster this booster that and all those examples. Simply wording ppl... |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
811
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Posted - 2013.08.30 16:55:00 -
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I think the example meant to say that you earned WP not SP. |
Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
803
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Posted - 2013.08.30 16:56:00 -
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CCP Mintchip wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Who the heck suggested making it shorter? The last thing we need is for it to only cater to people who have time to cap a character in one day, and screw those of us who play throughout the week. This also tells those people they shouldn't play at all at the start of the week, so they don't waste their cap.
I am frankly amazed this passed any sort of check to prevent CCP from being stupid. It's missing the one piece of feedback we've all universally agreed is needed, and put in a bunch of things that screw everyone else. One of the concerns that came up in feedback about the 7 day cycle was that it meant people had to play every day to earn the maximum reward. So it's the same amount that you would get over 7 days, just condensed to 3. Allowing for a more concentrated weekend event. Give it a try, see what you think - we look forward to your feedback!
Maybe we are confused by your wording? but it sounds like we have to earn all our SP during those days to get the benefit of all our SP being doubled? |
gbh08
CAUSE 4 C0NCERN
89
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Posted - 2013.08.30 16:56:00 -
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CCP Mintchip wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Who the heck suggested making it shorter? The last thing we need is for it to only cater to people who have time to cap a character in one day, and screw those of us who play throughout the week. This also tells those people they shouldn't play at all at the start of the week, so they don't waste their cap.
I am frankly amazed this passed any sort of check to prevent CCP from being stupid. It's missing the one piece of feedback we've all universally agreed is needed, and put in a bunch of things that screw everyone else. One of the concerns that came up in feedback about the 7 day cycle was that it meant people had to play every day to earn the maximum reward. So it's the same amount that you would get over 7 days, just condensed to 3. Allowing for a more concentrated weekend event. Give it a try, see what you think - we look forward to your feedback!
weekends are for getting wasted, weekdays are for dust
surely 7 days to cap is better than 3... for everyone? |
Soraya Xel
New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men.
400
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Posted - 2013.08.30 16:57:00 -
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CCP Eterne: It means I can't get the full effect out of the event others can. I can't cap in two days, because I have a life. I need the ability to use the event for seven days just to compete.
Furthermore, if you look at these rules: ANYONE WHO DOES SKIRMISH DURING THE EVENT IS DUMB. Because if it caps out the SP per match at 3000, you want as close to 3000 SP gain per match. Skirmish will get you closer to 9000 SP per match, so you cap out faster but gain less SP.
So, this event has killed all play for Wednesday and Thursday, as well as Skirmish and probably Domination. |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
2582
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Posted - 2013.08.30 16:57:00 -
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Hmm... You guys raise some salient points that might have been overlooked. I'll confer with Cmdr Wang about these issues and see what he says; I might have gotten some wording wrong about it. EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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CCP Mintchip
C C P C C P Alliance
1109
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Posted - 2013.08.30 16:58:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:gbh08 wrote:Is this whole thing pretty much a case of "dont cap untill the event" ? Actually, if you play AT ALL before the event, you lose out. CCP figured out how to kill their most active two days of their game for the week.
We're looking into this! We'd ideally want to make it so that you're not going to have a situation like this. I'd like to say that this isn't going to be an issue - but I'm going to want to confirm before promising anything. :) CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep |
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Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
77
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Posted - 2013.08.30 16:58:00 -
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It really should be effective throughout the week, if the idea is to cut back on grinding then we should have more time to get it done, some people have work ya know. I get that if that happens then people who play nonstop will take advantage of the bonus that you would get after the cap but still.
Also it seems like it offers no benefit to people who play before the event starts that week, rather than cut down on grinding it seems like this will in fact create a shorter time frame for those who want to get the benefit from playing. |
Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
803
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Posted - 2013.08.30 17:00:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Hmm... You guys raise some salient points that might have been overlooked. I'll confer with Cmdr Wang about these issues and see what he says; I might have gotten some wording wrong about it.
I would like to take this time to repeat for the thousandth time that you should present us options before these events to get feedback. You don't have to say when you will use them but better communication is desired by the community to stop this type of reaction. |
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Soraya Xel
New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men.
402
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Posted - 2013.08.30 17:00:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Hmm... You guys raise some salient points that might have been overlooked. I'll confer with Cmdr Wang about these issues and see what he says; I might have gotten some wording wrong about it.
Thanks for looking into it more. We appreciate it. Sincerely. |
Beren Hurin
The Vanguardians
1314
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Posted - 2013.08.30 17:00:00 -
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Are you guys spying on me or something. Of the last six months and this next weekend, the ONLY SP events to occur will have been during the ONLY weeks/weekends I am out of town...creepy . |
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CCP Mintchip
C C P C C P Alliance
1114
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Posted - 2013.08.30 17:01:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:Are you guys spying on me or something. Of the last six months and this next weekend, the ONLY SP events to occur will have been during the ONLY weeks/weekends I am out of town...creepy .
I like the shirt you're wearing today. CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep |
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Beren Hurin
The Vanguardians
1314
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Posted - 2013.08.30 17:03:00 -
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Hey at least they are telling us about the event everywhere before it starts. Some corp members were complaining, because they are starting to rely on the News Page in the client for update info: which is good and bad I guess... |
CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
96
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Posted - 2013.08.30 17:04:00 -
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This statement cracks me up,
Quote: Everyone loves Skill Points
Only reason we love SP's is because that is what this game is, a SP grinding pew pew game.
I for one hate your SP system, so no not everyone loves SP's. Some of us just have to put up with them if we want to play this lobby shooter. |
Beren Hurin
The Vanguardians
1314
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Posted - 2013.08.30 17:06:00 -
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CCP Mintchip wrote:Beren Hurin wrote:Are you guys spying on me or something. Of the last six months and this next weekend, the ONLY SP events to occur will have been during the ONLY weeks/weekends I am out of town...creepy . I like the shirt you're wearing today.
Oh thanks, I actually do get a fair number of compliments on this one. |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
968
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Posted - 2013.08.30 17:08:00 -
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1. Have it going a full week, wednesday to wednesday. Having it on just 3 days (the weekend) means you should avoid playing until the event starts, otherwise you kinda miss out on SP. I don't suppose you want people to not play until the event starts.
2. I don't understand why there is a 3k maximum? As someone else said, this would kinda punish Skirmish and Domination players, since they might get more than 3k SP in a match. Get rid of the maximum (other than the 1k maximum after the cap, since that is already the maximum you can get).
3. All these examples just makes it even more confusing. Just say "double SP for all SP earned with a maximum of 1k after the cap (+ maximum of 3k before the cap if you decide to keep this maximum)". |
Halador Osiris
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
624
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Posted - 2013.08.30 17:09:00 -
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CCP Mintchip wrote:Beren Hurin wrote:Are you guys spying on me or something. Of the last six months and this next weekend, the ONLY SP events to occur will have been during the ONLY weeks/weekends I am out of town...creepy . I like the shirt you're wearing today. Can we get Jenza's Pants up in here? |
Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
78
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Posted - 2013.08.30 17:09:00 -
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Well look on the bright side, the first 2 days of 1.4 you can have time to change around your suits to maximize benefit from all of the armor tanking that will be available :) I might actually start using proto suits now that I'll have so much defense. |
Z3R0 GR4VITY
Red Star. EoN.
281
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Posted - 2013.08.30 17:12:00 -
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I'm very confused about how this event will work... The event should be much simpler and described with wording that is easy to comprehend. |
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