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Aikuchi Tomaru
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Posted - 2013.08.30 22:47:00 -
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Ok. This event isn't really good. The main problem is that it encourages afking. But a new version of it. Due to the 3000 sp thing people don't want to get more than 3000 sp in every match. Because that would mean losing out on ap. Afking in skirmish or domination would five you more than 3000 sp. That would be bad. So what people want to do is get as little sp and also wp as possible. They will rather get shot than earning 50 wp for a kill. So we will possibly see a lot of people going into ambush and not even trying to do anything else besides staying alive.
As long as there is the first 3000 sp get bonus sp this event isn't fun at all. |
Aikuchi Tomaru
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Posted - 2013.09.04 21:15:00 -
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I really hate this event. Because I really want to play. I really want to check out what the update has to offer. But I get punished when I play. So I just have to grind without getting any SP whatsoever with driving around mindlessly or just scanning all day long or something like that. Only after I hit the cap I get a reward for playing. Really. CCP, whatever you do, NEVER do an event again that has a rule that starts with "The first x SP in a match get a bonus" Because that alone says that you want that people do not get many points in a match. Only getting 900 SP? No problem. Nothing wasted. But playing and going over that amount punishes the player.
A worthwhile SP event would be something like you get double SP all the time but you get triple SP after capping out. This would encourage players to hit the cap early and then keep playing even after hitting the cap. Actually: Just look at the ISK scammers and do what they promise, just with SP instead of ISK. The more you invest, the more you get. Not the more you invest the less you get. |
Aikuchi Tomaru
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Posted - 2013.09.05 10:45:00 -
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CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:[quote=Hobo on Fire]I also don't see how AFKing will help players maximize their SP gain, yes you will earn more than you usually do, but it is unlikely that you get more than 3000 SP per match by doing nothing. The new anti-AFK mechanic should also curb this behavior as well. Which, if the theory crafters here are correct (that is their assumption that this encourages AFK) this event will actually help test the new anti-AFK mechanic.
Well. That's exactly the point. AFKers don't want to get more than the 3000 SP per match. If you only get 500 SP than no harm is done. You get the full bonus and you haven't wasted any points. You just have to play more rounds. Or in this case AFK more rounds. The time invested to do this is still the same. Also the new Anti-AFK-mechanic is beaten by a rubber band. Further: It attacks symptoms, not the core of the problem. Which is: AFKing is worthwhile.
The problem with this event is, as it was already said very often, that it encourages getting less Warpoints. And this will always be the case when you do something like "You only get a bonus on your first X SP every match".
Something what is good about this event is that you can still get bonus SP when you play after hitting the weekly cap. Experienced players have no problem hitting 1000 WP in a match. Meaning they get 2000 WP without booster and 3000 WP with a booster. That's plenty and makes playing after hitting the cap actually worthwhile.
But the problem is: You set the 3000 point cap because what your data shows about the average player. Understandable. But you should also think about the experienced players. i mean these are the guys that love your game, no matter its flaws. And for them these events are inconvenient.
In my opinion you should keep your SP events simple. Even something like bonus SP for winning a match would cause problems. Because a lone blueberry can't influence if the team wins or not. And if you have a good round with 2000 WP but your team just sucks and you lose. Well. Not very fun. And somebody will always lose.
To encourage playing you should encourage getting many warpoints. Something like: "If you get 500 Warpoints in a match you get double SP." or something like this. Do not cap the bonus if you get too much SP. Because this will always encourage something you don't want. |
Aikuchi Tomaru
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Posted - 2013.09.05 11:06:00 -
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Duck Gun wrote:Totally agree on the above...
You get over 3k SP on a basic ambush if none does anything. Today I've played through an ambus that was 2 vs.14, me on the losing side. Got 250 WP, the game was terminated on the timer and I got myself 4,6k SP just for the fun of being a freaking target practice.
AFK:ing takes you over the 3k SP limit in almost every game that is not standard ambush with these huge maps. A lot of time is spent on searching the red dots as they don't anymore show up on team vision thus the game time is extended and therefore AFK players get more SP/battle than in previous builds.
In most Ambush games you still get less than 3000 SP when not playing. |
Aikuchi Tomaru
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Posted - 2013.09.07 13:14:00 -
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Alex Smoke wrote:I parked my dropship on top of the new reactor cores (the burning spinning effect), it damages the ship only slightly but kills the passengers; a mobile CRU on the dropship is mandatory for the funzies. I capped out last night, the worst grind in Dust 514 history.
And yes, I'm evil; this is EVE after all.
Was indeed the worst grind so far. But after capping out it's better. Because you can still get 3000 SP every match. So it actually makes sense to play after capping out. |
Aikuchi Tomaru
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Posted - 2013.09.09 14:48:00 -
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Gringo Nos wrote:I could grump and groan about plenty of things in this game but as far event planning goes I think this one was a step in the right direction for everyone who just wants to have fun playing this game.
With the problem being that the event wasn't fun at all because of the fact that it punished you for actually playing. I'm fine with everything about the event, except for the first 3000 SP rule. |
Aikuchi Tomaru
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:38:00 -
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Receoved SP. I can't make sure it's the right amount, but it kinda looks... rightish. Now that we've finished the 2 worst events I'm looking forward to the next Caldari Prime. |
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