Just wanted to make sure you guys knew

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=96818&find=unread

Just wanted to make sure you guys knew

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=96818&find=unread

That is it?????
Wow WTF.
Meh broke game is still broke game, lol.

Good try CCP.

September 17th can not come fast enough.

No mention of aiming being fixed, BUT

Visuals
Added shadow-casting on the first person hands and weapon

OMG!!!!! THE GAME IS FINALLY COMPLETED! WE'VE MADE IT! THIS IS THE ONE THING WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR TO COME BACK! DUST WILL FINALLY RISE FROM THE ASHES!

That is it?????
Wow WTF.
Meh broke game is still broke game, lol.

Good try CCP.

September 17th can not come fast enough.

This^^^ lmfao can't wait for that day either... And these patch notes really depress me, because they still aren't addressing anything remotely close to fixing the problems, only a slight nerf to the flaylock pistol, and still absolutely nothing done for vehicles at. all.

Fixed an issue by which changing seats in a vehicle could cause the player to become invisible

Smoothed out the animation of players in the distance

What about he other way you can become invisible?

....................... I .... But.....so.................Hmm... yeah........I don't know what to say ....

A full Patch for few Hot fixes that could be done at any time, any day ?

Please talk me that is only a Portion of the Release notes .... PLEASE.

When will the patch go live?

No mention of aiming being fixed, BUT

Visuals
Added shadow-casting on the first person hands and weapon

OMG!!!!! THE GAME IS FINALLY COMPLETED! WE'VE MADE IT! THIS IS THE ONE THING WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR TO COME BACK! DUST WILL FINALLY RISE FROM THE ASHES!

Mid-late next week i'd guess.

These bugs were clientside bugs. Clientside can only be patched with a title update (AKA Uprising 1.3)

When is 1.3?

I can shoot people just fine, what exactly do you want "fixing" with the aiming? What's wrong with throwing in a few little aesthetic alterations along with all the other internal changes?? You guys are just too f*cking picky and need to enjoy the game for what it is. The game's awesome and is only getting better all the time.
Thanks CCP, keep up the great work!!

i understand that... but at this rate we going to need about 10 rapid updates just to fix the core game play. No like i'm actually disappointed with the Lag of content, i was expecting that .. but what about ;

-AFKing
-Red-line
-Matchmaking
-Aiming
-Murder Taxis

Those are pretty serious issues right now...

Well no shit. What do you expect from monthly updates.

https://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/index.php?threads/game-update-13-what-to-expect-and-when.141224/

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Monthly update.

This update was said to be small a while ago. 1.4 will be larger then this one.

Don't feed noc. it'll derail the thread.

No aim fix?

Not interested.

Just like every other patch CCP does not put up every fix that's in a patch in the patch notes. The performance will very likely go up (Not by a huge margin but better)

you would think something as important as aiming they'll put in the notes though. It's not there cuz it's not fixed. Maybe in 1.4

They can put in the notes about adding shadows but not something important as aiming? c'mon.

don't know what FPS you've been playing all these years, but if you don't notice something's wrong with the aiming, your head is too far up CCP's arse to see it.

Picky? Well damn! Excuse me good sir for wanting a game that isn't broken

I guess I'm picky like that when I've spent money on something. You can sit there and be quiet about it, but I will not. People have a right to express their opinions. You have yours, I have mine.

Edit: btw, in case you didn't notice, I was making a joke. People around here really can't take a joke and honesty. You like people to bullshit you your whole life, and smile while doing it huh.

I can shoot people just fine, what exactly do you want "fixing" with the aiming? What's wrong with throwing in a few little aesthetic alterations along with all the other internal changes?? You guys are just too f*cking picky and need to enjoy the game for what it is. The game's awesome and is only getting better all the time.
Thanks CCP, keep up the great work!!

This^^^ lmfao can't wait for that day either... And these patch notes really depress me, because they still aren't addressing anything remotely close to fixing the problems, only a slight nerf to the flaylock pistol, and still absolutely nothing done for vehicles at. all.

No because there is A LOT of things that could be messing up aiming. If they would put in every fix they did it would increase the patch notes by a pretty large margin.

aiming is broken and nowhere in the 1.3 said a fix for aiming which is total f*cking bullshit. i am going to another game ive lost interested in playing dust every day and buying boosters.

an over 25% nerf across the board is "slight"?

Picky? Well damn! Excuse me good sir for wanting a game that isn't broken

I guess I'm picky like that when I've spent money on something. You can sit there and be quiet about it, but I will not. People have a right to express their opinions. You have yours, I have mine.

Yes because the flaylock was way too powerful. (It will still be better then the scrambler and SMG.... Well not the scrambler if you can use it right...)

So what your saying is 25% wasn't enough of a nerf?

As a vet im so numb to this **** anymore, im just really thinking; holy ****, im I reallly going to continue to grind out Sp till CCP actually makes this game enjoyable......

Sadly, there are many of us that are like this. We have spent so much time and effort into gaining SP in hope of what this game could become that we hate to walk away from it.

As I said in another thread, 1.4 will be the defining patch of this game. It will either keep people interested in it or will be the final reason that many vets give up. If that patch doesnt satisfy people, it will be another month or two before any new content comes out.

You will lose people to GTA5 and then people will just sit and wait for PS4 to be released. Major clans want one thing, fun through competition where skill and tactics are the determining factors. The reason that DUST had such promise is that we felt that weapon and vehicle diversity would allow for skill to be shown through different avenues. They continue to fail to give players the diversity they want beyond the vanilla AR and Tanks.

Heavies and Scouts have been screwed over time and time again. Vehicles have been twisted six ways from Sunday (LLAV more survivability than a tank).

All the while, CCP does their best to pay lipservice to people about better communication and then go back to the same ol same ol.

Well no shit. What do you expect from monthly updates.

an over 25% nerf across the board is "slight"?

Magazine size was increased to 8

Im a little scared.

With the new improves the AMARR LOGI will have im scared they will be the next OP LOGI/ASSAULT

I understand the sidearms slot in every one of them, but also a low powered slot on proto? I know this is well intended and i would love it if good logis could use this suit, but im thinking here of what dust has the most, TRY HARDS.

With 7 SLOTS, (Same as assaults), more PG and CPU, More equipment slots, 2 AWESOME specialization bonuses and the ONLY drawback being less speed and less stamina makes me think that anyone wanting to go assault WITHOUT using laser weapons might use this suit.

Think of the possibilities.
-AR or light weapon of choice, say, MASS DRIVER
-Sidearm of choice

-2 Complex shield EXT
-1 Complex damage mod
- 1 complex kinetic
- 1 complex repair
- 1 armor plate of your choosing.
- 1 armor plate of your choosing or Stamina enhancers.

-Equipment of your election.

we would have powerful Assaults that are not even stopped with Flux grenades.
Speedy shield regen.
Speedy Armor regen
MED-High HP (482 total HP with lv 4 passiveskillsand 2 complex shield extenders, No armor plates included here)
Decent speed, as per default at complex level kinetic will give a total speed of 7.48 sprinting.
And they dont even have the disadvantage other logis have from lacking sidearm.

So , imean IM HAPPY FOR LOGIS, specially amarr one, but CCP should THINK this well before just buffing them into the next OP suit.

I just hope the speed and stamina are enough to stop assault players into spec'ing into these suits, but one never knows....

Im a little scared.

With the new improves the AMARR LOGI will have im scared they will be the next OP LOGI/ASSAULT

I understand the sidearms slot in every one of them, but also a low powered slot on proto? I know this is well intended and i would love it if good logis could use this suit, but im thinking here of what dust has the most, TRY HARDS.

With 7 SLOTS, (Same as assaults), more PG and CPU, More equipment slots, 2 AWESOME specialization bonuses and the ONLY drawback being less speed and less stamina makes me think that anyone wanting to go assault WITHOUT using laser weapons might use this suit.

Think of the possibilities.
-AR or light weapon of choice, say, MASS DRIVER
-Sidearm of choice

-2 Complex shield EXT
-1 Complex damage mod
- 1 complex kinetic
- 1 complex repair
- 1 armor plate of your choosing.
- 1 armor plate of your choosing or Stamina enhancers.

-Equipment of your election.

we would have powerful Assaults that are not even stopped with Flux grenades.
Speedy shield regen.
Speedy Armor regen (about 12.5 per sec with only 1 complex armor rep)
MED-High HP (482 total HP with lv 4 passive skills and 2 complex shield extenders, No armor plates included here)
Decent speed, as per default at complex level kinetic will give a total speed of 7.48 sprinting.
And they dont even have the disadvantage other logis have from lacking sidearm.

So , i mean IM HAPPY FOR LOGIS, specially amarr ones, but CCP should THINK this well before just buffing them into the next OP suit.

I just hope the speed and stamina are enough to stop assault players into spec'ing into these suits, but one never knows....
I really think the a CPU/PG increase so that you can equip PROTO stuff on the few slots you have is good, Side arms for all versions, good, But extra low slot it pushing it too far. I predicted CAL LOGIS being the next OP suit, and right now, mark my words, im telling you, put 1 extra low slot and soon you will see the new bumblebee army, now impervious to Flux grenades....

https://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/index.php?threads/game-update-13-what-to-expect-and-when.141224/

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Monthly update.

We get a game update every 2 weeks in Planetside 2

Nothing for the heavies

Not in this update.

so, sorry for coming across as a noob but everyone keeps complaining about aiming. What exactly is wrong with aiming? Please tell me because 1) I don't see anything wrong with it and 2) I can't find a single thread that actually explains the issue rather than just complain.

P.S. I like the update.

The aim was better a long time ago

I expected rapid updates to be light but this surprises even me. I'm concerned any real content is going to be saved for the next Fanfest so they have something to show at this rate.

Aimings gotten so bad when i see a fast assault suit or scout suit running, i have to aim behind him to hit him to hit his hitbox rather than him, theres also issues where the game overcompensates when you make slight adjustments while aiming, meaning the movements out the controller wont always translate to the same movements on screen.
This update was a few hard-nerf bats not thought out, and a buff to the amarr logi.
And a few unimportant glitch fixes. Oh and don't forget the shadows!...

so, sorry for coming across as a noob but everyone keeps complaining about aiming. What exactly is wrong with aiming? Please tell me because 1) I don't see anything wrong with it and 2) I can't find a single thread that actually explains the issue rather than just complain.

P.S. I like the update.

and they're very much in the same vein, with 1.3 being a bit smaller than 1.2, and 1.4 potentially loaded with even more game-changing features than 1.2.

We get a game update every 2 weeks in Planetside 2

Well no shit. What do you expect from monthly updates.

Hi guys,

...

Cheers

CCP Wolfman

Hi guys,

I see a bunch of different things being mentioned here so I thought IGÇÖd quickly let you know whatGÇÖs going on with them.

Amount of stuff in 1.3 GÇô This was an intentionally short release to give us a trial run of the new processes we have put in place to be able to deliver updates to you faster. ThatGÇÖs why it might feel a bit GÇÿlightGÇÖ. 1.4 is the 'correct' length and consequently will have more stuff.

Aiming GÇô Aiming was worked on throughout 1.3 laying the foundations for the work me and Remnant are currently doing on it for 1.4. There simply wasnGÇÖt enough time to get it all ready and tested for 1.3. The pad and the mouse will be getting an update, testing is going well. IGÇÖll have a dev blog about this soon with more details.

Vehicle tuning and 1.4 GÇô work on this has started. However we donGÇÖt want to just make small patches and tweaks here and there as we have in the past. We need to take a full pass on vehicles/turrets/modules as a whole. This as you can imagine is a lot of work. It is a priority for us but donGÇÖt expect to see significant updates until 1.5. We need a good chunk of time to get through it all..

Murder Taxis GÇô For 1.4 weGÇÖve updated the vehicle/infantry collision and damage system. I retuned the damage completely the other day and so far in my small tests itGÇÖs feeling a lot better. WeGÇÖll be testing it in our internal playtests this week so we can see how it holds up with more players.

Other bits and bobs - There is also work underway on matchmaking, AFKing and red lining. IGÇÖm not working on the matchmaking so I canGÇÖt provide you with details there right now. IGÇÖll be involved with the redline and AFK stuff this week so IGÇÖll give more info on that soon.

Cheers

CCP Wolfman

Hi guys,

I see a bunch of different things being mentioned here so I thought IGÇÖd quickly let you know whatGÇÖs going on with them.

Amount of stuff in 1.3 GÇô This was an intentionally short release to give us a trial run of the new processes we have put in place to be able to deliver updates to you faster. ThatGÇÖs why it might feel a bit GÇÿlightGÇÖ. 1.4 is the 'correct' length and consequently will have more stuff.

Aiming GÇô Aiming was worked on throughout 1.3 laying the foundations for the work me and Remnant are currently doing on it for 1.4. There simply wasnGÇÖt enough time to get it all ready and tested for 1.3. The pad and the mouse will be getting an update, testing is going well. IGÇÖll have a dev blog about this soon with more details.

Vehicle tuning and 1.4 GÇô work on this has started. However we donGÇÖt want to just make small patches and tweaks here and there as we have in the past. We need to take a full pass on vehicles/turrets/modules as a whole. This as you can imagine is a lot of work. It is a priority for us but donGÇÖt expect to see significant updates until 1.5. We need a good chunk of time to get through it all..

Murder Taxis GÇô For 1.4 weGÇÖve updated the vehicle/infantry collision and damage system. I retuned the damage completely the other day and so far in my small tests itGÇÖs feeling a lot better. WeGÇÖll be testing it in our internal playtests this week so we can see how it holds up with more players.

Other bits and bobs - There is also work underway on matchmaking, AFKing and red lining. IGÇÖm not working on the matchmaking so I canGÇÖt provide you with details there right now. IGÇÖll be involved with the redline and AFK stuff this week so IGÇÖll give more info on that soon.

Cheers

CCP Wolfman

Hi guys,

I see a bunch of different things being mentioned here so I thought IGÇÖd quickly let you know whatGÇÖs going on with them.

Amount of stuff in 1.3 GÇô This was an intentionally short release to give us a trial run of the new processes we have put in place to be able to deliver updates to you faster. ThatGÇÖs why it might feel a bit GÇÿlightGÇÖ. 1.4 is the 'correct' length and consequently will have more stuff.

Aiming GÇô Aiming was worked on throughout 1.3 laying the foundations for the work me and Remnant are currently doing on it for 1.4. There simply wasnGÇÖt enough time to get it all ready and tested for 1.3. The pad and the mouse will be getting an update, testing is going well. IGÇÖll have a dev blog about this soon with more details.

Vehicle tuning and 1.4 GÇô work on this has started. However we donGÇÖt want to just make small patches and tweaks here and there as we have in the past. We need to take a full pass on vehicles/turrets/modules as a whole. This as you can imagine is a lot of work. It is a priority for us but donGÇÖt expect to see significant updates until 1.5. We need a good chunk of time to get through it all..

Murder Taxis GÇô For 1.4 weGÇÖve updated the vehicle/infantry collision and damage system. I retuned the damage completely the other day and so far in my small tests itGÇÖs feeling a lot better. WeGÇÖll be testing it in our internal playtests this week so we can see how it holds up with more players.

Other bits and bobs - There is also work underway on matchmaking, AFKing and red lining. IGÇÖm not working on the matchmaking so I canGÇÖt provide you with details there right now. IGÇÖll be involved with the redline and AFK stuff this week so IGÇÖll give more info on that soon.

Cheers

CCP Wolfman

Huh.
Wolfman is usually the silent one.
What made you come out of your CCP lair and finally communicate with us?

This.
This right here.
You need to relay to your fellow Devs and Superiors that THIS is what they need to do on a more constant basis.
Informing us, the playerbase, of what you guys have been doing, what you have in mind, when you expect work to be done, and addressing our concerns, in THIS manner, is helpful beyond belief.

Kudos to you Wolfman, and thank you for that.

Quiet feline. Let the wolf roam free.

Hi guys,

I see a bunch of different things being mentioned here so I thought IGÇÖd quickly let you know whatGÇÖs going on with them.

Amount of stuff in 1.3 GÇô This was an intentionally short release to give us a trial run of the new processes we have put in place to be able to deliver updates to you faster. ThatGÇÖs why it might feel a bit GÇÿlightGÇÖ. 1.4 is the 'correct' length and consequently will have more stuff.

Aiming GÇô Aiming was worked on throughout 1.3 laying the foundations for the work me and Remnant are currently doing on it for 1.4. There simply wasnGÇÖt enough time to get it all ready and tested for 1.3. The pad and the mouse will be getting an update, testing is going well. IGÇÖll have a dev blog about this soon with more details.

Vehicle tuning and 1.4 GÇô work on this has started. However we donGÇÖt want to just make small patches and tweaks here and there as we have in the past. We need to take a full pass on vehicles/turrets/modules as a whole. This as you can imagine is a lot of work. It is a priority for us but donGÇÖt expect to see significant updates until 1.5. We need a good chunk of time to get through it all..

Murder Taxis GÇô For 1.4 weGÇÖve updated the vehicle/infantry collision and damage system. I retuned the damage completely the other day and so far in my small tests itGÇÖs feeling a lot better. WeGÇÖll be testing it in our internal playtests this week so we can see how it holds up with more players.

Other bits and bobs - There is also work underway on matchmaking, AFKing and red lining. IGÇÖm not working on the matchmaking so I canGÇÖt provide you with details there right now. IGÇÖll be involved with the redline and AFK stuff this week so IGÇÖll give more info on that soon.

Cheers

CCP Wolfman

He's just here to see if he might get a good Gallente suit someday.

Log into Dust forums

Check for any new updates

Look for the words armor or Gallente

Check if there was a buff

If there wasn't, repeat steps 1 to 4, while cursing CCP and creating 1000 well written threads*

If there was, praise the CCP lords

If there was a nerf, raid CCP Shanghai and Iceland, take over and replace the staff with DICE

*Threads may not always be well written

take over and replace the staff with DICE

Huh.
Wolfman is usually the silent one.
What made you come out of your CCP lair and finally communicate with us?

*lopes back in to lair*

Murder Taxis GÇô For 1.4 weGÇÖve updated the vehicle/infantry collision and damage system. I retuned the damage completely the other day and so far in my small tests itGÇÖs feeling a lot better. WeGÇÖll be testing it in our internal playtests this week so we can see how it holds up with more players.

Will the updated vehicle collision damage still allow HAVs to run over infantry?

*lopes back in to lair*

Yes they still can. Murder HAV!

Sooooo.......can we expect to see communication like this on a regular basis or is this a one-time thing because you have some time on your hands Wolfman?

Yes they still can. Murder HAV!

I wish I had time on my hands :-)

I saw that this was a good opportunity to cover a few important things all at once. I'd like to spend more time but it can be tough when there's so much work to do.

I wish I had time on my hands :-)

I saw that this was a good opportunity to cover a few important things all at once. I'd like to spend more time but it can be tough when there's so much work to do.

soooo still DUST RACER? the contact nades will help in PC but I still think flaylocks r wayyyy too useful they r still gonna out perform the SMG and ScP


this "balance" patch is a joke I expected more

So from what I understand, eHP of the suit gets reflected on the LAV as collision damage, correct?
If so, I think it should be 2x the eHP of the suit, so a heavy being rammed is a death sentence to the LAV, and more than one medium frame would mean you're heavily wounded.

Nope, the LAV will not receive any significant impact damage right now. If the changes we've made don't improve matters enough that's something we can take a look at. The first large scale internal test of them is tomorrow so keep your fingers crossed.

Hi guys,

I see a bunch of different things being mentioned here so I thought IGÇÖd quickly let you know whatGÇÖs going on with them.

Amount of stuff in 1.3 GÇô This was an intentionally short release to give us a trial run of the new processes we have put in place to be able to deliver updates to you faster. ThatGÇÖs why it might feel a bit GÇÿlightGÇÖ. 1.4 is the 'correct' length and consequently will have more stuff.

Aiming GÇô Aiming was worked on throughout 1.3 laying the foundations for the work me and Remnant are currently doing on it for 1.4. There simply wasnGÇÖt enough time to get it all ready and tested for 1.3. The pad and the mouse will be getting an update, testing is going well. IGÇÖll have a dev blog about this soon with more details.

Vehicle tuning and 1.4 GÇô work on this has started. However we donGÇÖt want to just make small patches and tweaks here and there as we have in the past. We need to take a full pass on vehicles/turrets/modules as a whole. This as you can imagine is a lot of work. It is a priority for us but donGÇÖt expect to see significant updates until 1.5. We need a good chunk of time to get through it all..

Murder Taxis GÇô For 1.4 weGÇÖve updated the vehicle/infantry collision and damage system. I retuned the damage completely the other day and so far in my small tests itGÇÖs feeling a lot better. WeGÇÖll be testing it in our internal playtests this week so we can see how it holds up with more players.

Other bits and bobs - There is also work underway on matchmaking, AFKing and red lining. IGÇÖm not working on the matchmaking so I canGÇÖt provide you with details there right now. IGÇÖll be involved with the redline and AFK stuff this week so IGÇÖll give more info on that soon.

Cheers

CCP Wolfman

Are LLAVs getting impacted at all? They're waaay too resilient to damage right now. Shield Resistance Mods in general need to be tweaked to prevent EHPs going up exponentially.

Only got one question:

"Homogenised PG/CPU"

Does this only affect Contact nades or nades in general? Was there any change in PG on Flaylocks?

It's just for the contact nades. There was no change in PG on the Flaylock.

Agree, we will deal with those guys as part of the full pass on vehicles and vehicle related whatnots

It's just for the contact nades. There was no change in PG on the Flaylock.

Good ****.

Hopefully I can get my hands on a PS3 before this comes out so I'm ready.

Wolfman, how do you feel about armortanks keeping there repping bug? I ask because with the bug armor tanks are not too bad. They still aren't worth the money but its feasible. Or will the vehicle balance overhaul allow the bug to be fixed while making the tank stronger. Yes I say stronger because it needs to be and petitions (as much as you hate them) all agree.

I don't see that bug as a huge issue right now. I don't think it's causing a significant problem and the magic numbers agree with me. I don't really like leaving bugs like that in the game intentionally though so that's something we'll need to think about. It would certainly get rolled in to the overall vehicle rebalance, the question is do we leave it in until that work rolls out...

don't know if anybody ask or know, but how many MB will be 1.3?

I understand, but for the sake of armor tanks now we all request it is left at least until the overhaul. I understand if its ironed out with the overhaul, and I look forward to communicating with you guys and giving our opinions on the new vehicle balance. But for right now I speak for many fellow tankers, we need the repping power to stand a chance against AV. As for shield, its bitter sweet for them because It makes us hard to deal with for them but at the same time they agree with leaving the bug. Anyways please leave it until then. Look forward to speaking again (even if its short like this) thanks wolfman!

Im a little scared.

With the new improves the AMARR LOGI will have im scared they will be the next OP LOGI/ASSAULT

I understand the sidearms slot in every one of them, but also a low powered slot on proto? I know this is well intended and i would love it if good logis could use this suit, but im thinking here of what dust has the most, TRY HARDS.

With 7 SLOTS, (Same as assaults), more PG and CPU, More equipment slots, 2 AWESOME specialization bonuses and the ONLY drawback being less speed and less stamina makes me think that anyone wanting to go assault WITHOUT using laser weapons might use this suit.

Ok. I've moved the bug in to my lair where it will remain hidden for now :-)

CCP Wolfman I really like the way you keep up the conversation, thumbs up for you Sir! But let me be honest with you for just one moment please. To tell the true, (maybe IGÇÖm really the only one) IGÇÖm very bored from GÇ£balances patches onlyGÇ¥ already. Now, now, I wound get started about how unfinished this games is, about how CCP should have did this and that and bla bla bla. May this topic rest in pease for this moment.
Just please be honest with me(us): Will the Patch 1.4 contain only balancing stuff again or can we finely expect to see some real new content?

Please answer just this one question.

You can blame the players who asked CCP to fix the core mechanics of the game. Also bringing more content will only add even more bugs. They NEED to iron out the core gameplay before they go all out on new content.

I totally understand that. I really do. Adding new tanks while the system is buggy donGÇÖt make a lot of sense, but this would be so sweet. It would be sweet and nice to see something new at all! I have been here from the very beginning in closed beta via the fanfast key, and GǪ I just feel that a lot of time has gone by without leaving major progression.
Like I said it, maybe I am the only one how feels that way.

CCP Wolfman I really like the way you keep up the conversation, thumbs up for you Sir! But let me be honest with you for just one moment please. To tell the true, (maybe IGÇÖm really the only one) IGÇÖm very bored from GÇ£balances patches onlyGÇ¥ already. Now, now, I wound get started about how unfinished this games is, about how CCP should have did this and that and bla bla bla. May this topic rest in pease for this moment.
Just please be honest with me(us): Will the Patch 1.4 contain only balancing stuff again or can we finely expect to see some real new content?

Please answer just this one question.

Dammit! being killed by a flux grenade was hillarious. It was the highlight of the match I had yesterday

I would love new content too, but until CCP have made the core gameplay very good I think they shouldn't try to make too much content. They should still add little bits of new content but their main focus should be making this game balanced and making it run smoothly with at least near perfect aiming or this game will never make it as a FPS.

yes. :-)

Well I use to do heave programming for a while and telling from my experience (I hate this word since Microsoft announce the xbone btw) it is easier GǪ well how I put that?

For example: having two out of four tanks makes the balancing heavier rather than having all four. This way no tank or weapons for example have to fulfill places holder tasks or other rolls and the focus would be not how to adjust this temporary role correct, it would be more on how to adjust this one role in the total sum.
Kind of tricky to explain, maybe you will still understand? Like the TAC AR was/is maybe a placeholder for a rail rifle.

T(h)ank you. Now we have to wait, again.

Speculation mod on: IF 1.3 arrive on august, and we take the GÇ£nearly every month pathGÇ¥ in the formula, take the size of 1.4 into account the equal should be = by the end of September?

CCP have stated that the 1.4 patch will be a vehicle balancing patch.

Hi guys,

I see a bunch of different things being mentioned here so I thought IGÇÖd quickly let you know whatGÇÖs going on with them.

Amount of stuff in 1.3 GÇô This was an intentionally short release to give us a trial run of the new processes we have put in place to be able to deliver updates to you faster. ThatGÇÖs why it might feel a bit GÇÿlightGÇÖ. 1.4 is the 'correct' length and consequently will have more stuff.

Aiming GÇô Aiming was worked on throughout 1.3 laying the foundations for the work me and Remnant are currently doing on it for 1.4. There simply wasnGÇÖt enough time to get it all ready and tested for 1.3. The pad and the mouse will be getting an update, testing is going well. IGÇÖll have a dev blog about this soon with more details.

Vehicle tuning and 1.4 GÇô work on this has started. However we donGÇÖt want to just make small patches and tweaks here and there as we have in the past. We need to take a full pass on vehicles/turrets/modules as a whole. This as you can imagine is a lot of work. It is a priority for us but donGÇÖt expect to see significant updates until 1.5. We need a good chunk of time to get through it all..

Murder Taxis GÇô For 1.4 weGÇÖve updated the vehicle/infantry collision and damage system. I retuned the damage completely the other day and so far in my small tests itGÇÖs feeling a lot better. WeGÇÖll be testing it in our internal playtests this week so we can see how it holds up with more players.

Other bits and bobs - There is also work underway on matchmaking, AFKing and red lining. IGÇÖm not working on the matchmaking so I canGÇÖt provide you with details there right now. IGÇÖll be involved with the redline and AFK stuff this week so IGÇÖll give more info on that soon.

Cheers

CCP Wolfman

ccp just needs to leave vehicals alone there idea on ballence is nerf pg nerf pg nerf pg oh and make ar's do more damage then small blaster turrets and make forge guns do more damage then large rail turets how about this ccp just needs to stop meessing with them and just make the rest of the vehicals promised such as med vehicals fighters amarr and minmatar havs advanced tier and prototype tier vehicals these ya go there is patch 1.4

So we getting a mouse fix ?..why you don't put this in the release notes ? You guys have to stop been so scare of the QQers... seriously.

Good ****!

I know everyone'll be psyched to hear that Murder Taxi is on the way out.

I'm all for getting it right the first time, and taking the time necessary to ensure that. Shows you guys are picking up that "Focus" thing Hilmar talked about at FanFest.

I'm not talking about just balance. I'm talking about the core gameplay meaning aiming, hit detection, physics of the game, solid 28 FPS (AT LEAST), fixing game breaking bugs, fixing the sticky terrain, improving on movement, optimizing the games code to help performance, and plenty of other things. Also adding new content takes quite of bit of time which means we would have to wait quite a while to fully balance the game. Also CCP are always going to add new stuff that they will need to balance. Waiting for all your content to be finished before balancing is just a horrible idea.


Also Game design is VERY different then having some programming experience. I would know since I'm in college ATM for game design.

He said earlier in the thread that 1.4 should be out in the beginning of september.

Then you should know that there are a lot of teams working on team only related stuff. Maps, balance, core, weapons and so on.
Meaning that there shouldnGÇÖt be any time delay since everyone has his own job to do. The work is done multitasking. I do agree btw that the core is somehow rotten, but lying to us through putting shiny and juicy things in the game wouldnGÇÖt make me mad GǪ at all ;).

So we getting a mouse fix ?..why you don't put this in the release notes ? You guys have to stop been so scare of the QQers... seriously.

Just to clarify that's in 1.4 not in 1.3

From what I understand, the LAV changes being tested for 1.4 are to how much damage infantry receives on impact - not the LAV taking damage proportional to what suit it hits.

So I'm wondering if this will manifest as rag-dolling (or pushing) and ~reasonably~ damaging infantry, and letting the LAV keep driving unimpeded.

It could also be as simple as increasing the amount of LAV speed required to kill, though I don't think that would solve the problem by itself.

We'll see.


Oh, and I suspect the Pilot suit will make it for 1.4 considering it's a vehicle specific suit, and 1.4 is mainly about vehicles.
So that makes sense. What color will it be? I wonder.

The updated collision system will push infantry to the side of the vehicle rather than just pushing them along in front of it. The vehicle will be able to carry on going. Now you will have to be going very fast to do serious damage.

The updated collision system will push infantry to the side of the vehicle rather than just pushing them along in front of it. The vehicle will be able to carry on going. Now you will have to be going very fast to do serious damage.

The updated collision system will push infantry to the side of the vehicle rather than just pushing them along in front of it. The vehicle will be able to carry on going. Now you will have to be going very fast to do serious damage.

The updated collision system will push infantry to the side of the vehicle rather than just pushing them along in front of it. The vehicle will be able to carry on going. Now you will have to be going very fast to do serious damage.

My take on the collision damage is that I believe it should not be the eHP (As wolfman stated it won't be already so kudos)that is transferred as damage to the LAV and that it should be armor left on the suit that is done as damage to the LAV. would bring a new meaning to having a high armor. I mean honestly shields have no mass and therefore shouldn't transfer that as damage to something that does have mass.

How is that aiming coming Wolfman? We're going on 2 and a half months with a horrible aiming system in a shooter. Now we know it's not going to happen in 1.3 which means another 1 and a half months. Is it in 1.4 or not?

The updated collision system will push infantry to the side of the vehicle rather than just pushing them along in front of it. The vehicle will be able to carry on going. Now you will have to be going very fast to do serious damage.

that doesnt make any sense

The updated collision system will push infantry to the side of the vehicle rather than just pushing them along in front of it. The vehicle will be able to carry on going. Now you will have to be going very fast to do serious damage.

well ik when friendlies would drive lavs they would push me for miles :P so stupid im kinda happy it wont do that

yeah it doesn't lol but they have to add stuff or people think they gave up on fixing the game lol

the problem is that they are not fixing , they are breaking , CCP is giving in to this forum whining

the only thing it may do is get the higher ups to be on their ass lol but the flaylock and contact grenades needed the nerf that helped the game but I still think most weapons aren't balanced yet (including flaylock idk have to see when the patch comes)

soooo still DUST RACER? the contact nades will help in PC but I still think flaylocks r wayyyy too useful they r still gonna out perform the SMG and ScP


this "balance" patch is a joke I expected more

for every action there is a reaction , meaning every weapon , tactic has a counter part , to me it seems CCP is playing with us

they make you go in a direction then half way they switch it

its a good way to kill your own game

Then you expect too much. 1.3 is that very small patch they have because they changed the release-cycle. 1.4 should be bigger.

And also prevented me from running nanohives and uplinks in a suit I can actually survive in.

Seems like all this will do is make people go pure assault with logis or force them to run around with no shield or weapon or regulators JUST to use support gear.

Hi guys,

I see a bunch of different things being mentioned here so I thought IGÇÖd quickly let you know whatGÇÖs going on with them.

Amount of stuff in 1.3 GÇô This was an intentionally short release to give us a trial run of the new processes we have put in place to be able to deliver updates to you faster. ThatGÇÖs why it might feel a bit GÇÿlightGÇÖ. 1.4 is the 'correct' length and consequently will have more stuff.

Aiming GÇô Aiming was worked on throughout 1.3 laying the foundations for the work me and Remnant are currently doing on it for 1.4. There simply wasnGÇÖt enough time to get it all ready and tested for 1.3. The pad and the mouse will be getting an update, testing is going well. IGÇÖll have a dev blog about this soon with more details.

Vehicle tuning and 1.4 GÇô work on this has started. However we donGÇÖt want to just make small patches and tweaks here and there as we have in the past. We need to take a full pass on vehicles/turrets/modules as a whole. This as you can imagine is a lot of work. It is a priority for us but donGÇÖt expect to see significant updates until 1.5. We need a good chunk of time to get through it all..

Murder Taxis GÇô For 1.4 weGÇÖve updated the vehicle/infantry collision and damage system. I retuned the damage completely the other day and so far in my small tests itGÇÖs feeling a lot better. WeGÇÖll be testing it in our internal playtests this week so we can see how it holds up with more players.

Other bits and bobs - There is also work underway on matchmaking, AFKing and red lining. IGÇÖm not working on the matchmaking so I canGÇÖt provide you with details there right now. IGÇÖll be involved with the redline and AFK stuff this week so IGÇÖll give more info on that soon.

Cheers

CCP Wolfman

Still no mention of Scoutly love...

That is it?????
Wow WTF.
Meh broke game is still broke game, lol.

Good try CCP.

September 17th can not come fast enough.

The updated collision system will push infantry to the side of the vehicle rather than just pushing them along in front of it. The vehicle will be able to carry on going. Now you will have to be going very fast to do serious damage.

The updated collision system will push infantry to the side of the vehicle rather than just pushing them along in front of it. The vehicle will be able to carry on going. Now you will have to be going very fast to do serious damage.

Other bits and bobs - There is also work underway on matchmaking, AFKing and red lining. IGÇÖm not working on the matchmaking so I canGÇÖt provide you with details there right now. IGÇÖll be involved with the redline and AFK stuff this week so IGÇÖll give more info on that soon.

Hummm anyone else notice he says serious damage instead of death?

Are LLAVs getting impacted at all? They're waaay too resilient to damage right now. Shield Resistance Mods in general need to be tweaked to prevent EHPs going up exponentially.

Agree, we will deal with those guys as part of the full pass on vehicles and vehicle related what nots

So still no love for scouts? I don't know how much more of this I can take. How long will I have to wait for my suit to be competitive

Smoothed out the animation of players in the distance

Could we get a clarification on the the new skill bonus for flay lock? Is it referring to increased total ammo or clip size?

Hi guys,

I see a bunch of different things being mentioned here so I thought IGÇÖd quickly let you know whatGÇÖs going on with them.

Amount of stuff in 1.3 GÇô This was an intentionally short release to give us a trial run of the new processes we have put in place to be able to deliver updates to you faster. ThatGÇÖs why it might feel a bit GÇÿlightGÇÖ. 1.4 is the 'correct' length and consequently will have more stuff.

Aiming GÇô Aiming was worked on throughout 1.3 laying the foundations for the work me and Remnant are currently doing on it for 1.4. There simply wasnGÇÖt enough time to get it all ready and tested for 1.3. The pad and the mouse will be getting an update, testing is going well. IGÇÖll have a dev blog about this soon with more details.

Vehicle tuning and 1.4 GÇô work on this has started. However we donGÇÖt want to just make small patches and tweaks here and there as we have in the past. We need to take a full pass on vehicles/turrets/modules as a whole. This as you can imagine is a lot of work. It is a priority for us but donGÇÖt expect to see significant updates until 1.5. We need a good chunk of time to get through it all..

Murder Taxis GÇô For 1.4 weGÇÖve updated the vehicle/infantry collision and damage system. I retuned the damage completely the other day and so far in my small tests itGÇÖs feeling a lot better. WeGÇÖll be testing it in our internal playtests this week so we can see how it holds up with more players.

Other bits and bobs - There is also work underway on matchmaking, AFKing and red lining. IGÇÖm not working on the matchmaking so I canGÇÖt provide you with details there right now. IGÇÖll be involved with the redline and AFK stuff this week so IGÇÖll give more info on that soon.

Cheers

CCP Wolfman