I'm not talking about just balance. I'm talking about the core gameplay meaning aiming, hit detection, physics of the game, solid 28 FPS (AT LEAST), fixing game breaking bugs, fixing the sticky terrain, improving on movement, optimizing the games code to help performance, and plenty of other things. Also adding new content takes quite of bit of time which means we would have to wait quite a while to fully balance the game. Also CCP are always going to add new stuff that they will need to balance. Waiting for all your content to be finished before balancing is just a horrible idea.


Also Game design is VERY different then having some programming experience. I would know since I'm in college ATM for game design.

He said earlier in the thread that 1.4 should be out in the beginning of september.

Then you should know that there are a lot of teams working on team only related stuff. Maps, balance, core, weapons and so on.
Meaning that there shouldnGÇÖt be any time delay since everyone has his own job to do. The work is done multitasking. I do agree btw that the core is somehow rotten, but lying to us through putting shiny and juicy things in the game wouldnGÇÖt make me mad GǪ at all ;).

So we getting a mouse fix ?..why you don't put this in the release notes ? You guys have to stop been so scare of the QQers... seriously.

Just to clarify that's in 1.4 not in 1.3

From what I understand, the LAV changes being tested for 1.4 are to how much damage infantry receives on impact - not the LAV taking damage proportional to what suit it hits.

So I'm wondering if this will manifest as rag-dolling (or pushing) and ~reasonably~ damaging infantry, and letting the LAV keep driving unimpeded.

It could also be as simple as increasing the amount of LAV speed required to kill, though I don't think that would solve the problem by itself.

We'll see.


Oh, and I suspect the Pilot suit will make it for 1.4 considering it's a vehicle specific suit, and 1.4 is mainly about vehicles.
So that makes sense. What color will it be? I wonder.

The updated collision system will push infantry to the side of the vehicle rather than just pushing them along in front of it. The vehicle will be able to carry on going. Now you will have to be going very fast to do serious damage.

The updated collision system will push infantry to the side of the vehicle rather than just pushing them along in front of it. The vehicle will be able to carry on going. Now you will have to be going very fast to do serious damage.

The updated collision system will push infantry to the side of the vehicle rather than just pushing them along in front of it. The vehicle will be able to carry on going. Now you will have to be going very fast to do serious damage.

The updated collision system will push infantry to the side of the vehicle rather than just pushing them along in front of it. The vehicle will be able to carry on going. Now you will have to be going very fast to do serious damage.

My take on the collision damage is that I believe it should not be the eHP (As wolfman stated it won't be already so kudos)that is transferred as damage to the LAV and that it should be armor left on the suit that is done as damage to the LAV. would bring a new meaning to having a high armor. I mean honestly shields have no mass and therefore shouldn't transfer that as damage to something that does have mass.

How is that aiming coming Wolfman? We're going on 2 and a half months with a horrible aiming system in a shooter. Now we know it's not going to happen in 1.3 which means another 1 and a half months. Is it in 1.4 or not?

The updated collision system will push infantry to the side of the vehicle rather than just pushing them along in front of it. The vehicle will be able to carry on going. Now you will have to be going very fast to do serious damage.

that doesnt make any sense

The updated collision system will push infantry to the side of the vehicle rather than just pushing them along in front of it. The vehicle will be able to carry on going. Now you will have to be going very fast to do serious damage.

well ik when friendlies would drive lavs they would push me for miles :P so stupid im kinda happy it wont do that

yeah it doesn't lol but they have to add stuff or people think they gave up on fixing the game lol

the problem is that they are not fixing , they are breaking , CCP is giving in to this forum whining

the only thing it may do is get the higher ups to be on their ass lol but the flaylock and contact grenades needed the nerf that helped the game but I still think most weapons aren't balanced yet (including flaylock idk have to see when the patch comes)

soooo still DUST RACER? the contact nades will help in PC but I still think flaylocks r wayyyy too useful they r still gonna out perform the SMG and ScP


this "balance" patch is a joke I expected more

for every action there is a reaction , meaning every weapon , tactic has a counter part , to me it seems CCP is playing with us

they make you go in a direction then half way they switch it

its a good way to kill your own game

Then you expect too much. 1.3 is that very small patch they have because they changed the release-cycle. 1.4 should be bigger.

And also prevented me from running nanohives and uplinks in a suit I can actually survive in.

Seems like all this will do is make people go pure assault with logis or force them to run around with no shield or weapon or regulators JUST to use support gear.

Hi guys,

I see a bunch of different things being mentioned here so I thought IGÇÖd quickly let you know whatGÇÖs going on with them.

Amount of stuff in 1.3 GÇô This was an intentionally short release to give us a trial run of the new processes we have put in place to be able to deliver updates to you faster. ThatGÇÖs why it might feel a bit GÇÿlightGÇÖ. 1.4 is the 'correct' length and consequently will have more stuff.

Aiming GÇô Aiming was worked on throughout 1.3 laying the foundations for the work me and Remnant are currently doing on it for 1.4. There simply wasnGÇÖt enough time to get it all ready and tested for 1.3. The pad and the mouse will be getting an update, testing is going well. IGÇÖll have a dev blog about this soon with more details.

Vehicle tuning and 1.4 GÇô work on this has started. However we donGÇÖt want to just make small patches and tweaks here and there as we have in the past. We need to take a full pass on vehicles/turrets/modules as a whole. This as you can imagine is a lot of work. It is a priority for us but donGÇÖt expect to see significant updates until 1.5. We need a good chunk of time to get through it all..

Murder Taxis GÇô For 1.4 weGÇÖve updated the vehicle/infantry collision and damage system. I retuned the damage completely the other day and so far in my small tests itGÇÖs feeling a lot better. WeGÇÖll be testing it in our internal playtests this week so we can see how it holds up with more players.

Other bits and bobs - There is also work underway on matchmaking, AFKing and red lining. IGÇÖm not working on the matchmaking so I canGÇÖt provide you with details there right now. IGÇÖll be involved with the redline and AFK stuff this week so IGÇÖll give more info on that soon.

Cheers

CCP Wolfman