What if you spec'd into both? The equipment alone guarantees I have more SP in my logi than my assault after taking the fitting into account, so how does that count?

Assault are for the sheep that just run and shoot all day what a boring life.

I'm not sure you really understand what the "support" role means once you are playing teams in full Proto gear. Walking behind someone with a rep tool is derp mode. If you removed light weapons from logis, you would see a lot less logis on PC teams.

I'm not sure you really understand what the "support" role means once you are playing teams in full Proto gear. Walking behind someone with a rep tool is derp mode. If you removed light weapons from logis, you would see a lot less logis on PC teams.

Ok, so then the equipment is more important than the frontline role? If you want the equipment stay logi by all means. If you value the squad support then do as you have. That's not the feeling one gets from the op, but from this post it seems that way.

That said, that is the role of your suit, not the frontline work you mentioned in the op. Do the 2 need to be completely divorced? No, and they aren't, your suit just isn't designed to make you king at it. You had the answer to your question all along apparently. Why was this thread even created?

question: why does logi get a shorter recharge delay than assault? shouldn't it be the opposite? what role is assault supposed to fill, exactly? they're just logis with slower shield delay, slightly faster movement speed, and a lot less slots

If you take away 53 CPU (that's the impact if skills are considered) then you take away the logi element and are left with only assault. It impacts the players using the suit as an assault suit ZERO.

silly COD players

The actions CCP took don't address the Calogi being used as an assault suit. It made it harder on those using it as a logi suit.

And we don't know yet what other changes they have in store as they are hinting at more awesome news for logis.

My problem is with the core belief by a majority of the people on these forums that a logi is supposed to have a rep tool in his hand or that he shouldn't be effective at killing.

Perhaps this belief will have merit when the battlefield is opened up to more players, but as it stands you have to be an effective killer in order to participate at a high level (PC).

The role of a logi is support, mostly medical support but other kinds as well.

Whether your healing a heavy

Reviving a teammate

or simple placing uplinks all those help the team.

I honestly don't believe the Logistics suit should be used for any sort of frontline combat.

We have an Assault suit for that.

First off, I'm a Cald logi so I'm not happy at this point.

Here is what I do on the battlefield...

I carry proto uplinks and nanohives. I'm usually front line so as we attack an objective or fend off attacks while we are defending I'll place a "hub" to provide armor reps and ammo. I'll place uplinks as they are taken out in defence or to provide a point of entry during an assault on an objective.

I chose this method after talking with DJINN Pheonix. After playing in some PC matches it was clear that we needed more logis with a weapon in their hand instead of a rep tool. Not just that but many more people are shield tanked than armor tanked.

Given the choices and the experiences I've had this was the path that seemed obvious to me. Not flavor of the month, just taking a look at the options available and making a decision based on what I felt would fit my playstyle and be the most effective for my team.

If I were a gallente logi I would have certainly taken up a rep tool as I'd probably be posted up in a heavy armor squad. However I do not like the movement penalties that armor comes with.

Until recently the nanite injector was useless and there are only certain times in a PC battle where it's advisable to pick players up after they go down. Quality teams in PC are usually going to put the person you picked up back down along with the person that picked them up.

MANY corps that I know of advise against using nanite injectors in PC.

The rep tool situation I touched on above, but I'll mention it again here. I higher level games having a rep tool in your hand instead of a gun usually means you are soon to be dead along with the person you are repping.

Given what I mentioned above can we have a grown up conversation about what a logi is supposed to do?

if anything logis should be on the frontlines healing and killing

its the damn assaults role to cover the logibro's ass while hes out there healing and repping

but the silly assault suits believe its the other way around

silly COD players

Look up the the terms for both 'Logistics' and 'Assault' then tell me whom should be covering whom. I dont play COD and I can understand the difference.

Look up the the terms for both 'Logistics' and 'Assault' then tell me whom should be covering whom. I dont play COD and I can understand the difference.

I'm already running two enhanced CPU and one enhanced PG just so I can fill all my equipment slots, with the new nerf taking away 40+ (after bonuses) CPU on proto, I am going to be lucky if I can fit more than one equipment on my suit. Which ironically makes me even more like an assault, but much less effective.

I'm already running two enhanced CPU and one enhanced PG just so I can fill all my equipment slots, with the new nerf taking away 40+ (after bonuses) CPU on proto, I am going to be lucky if I can fit more than one equipment on my suit. Which ironically makes me even more like an assault, but much less effective.

I'm already running two enhanced CPU and one enhanced PG just so I can fill all my equipment slots, with the new nerf taking away 40+ (after bonuses) CPU on proto, I am going to be lucky if I can fit more than one equipment on my suit. Which ironically makes me even more like an assault, but much less effective.

People keep saying it's a loss of 40-50+ after skills, Are all of you actually meaning to say after skills + CPU mods?

At this point, I think the CPU nerf is a 'pay for your sins' nerf intended to offset all that time we were so 'extremely overpowered'.

At this point, I'm gonna stop playing until 1.4.

At which point we'll see what they have in store, and FF14 will be out. I can decide then if I care to keep playing this game.

Given CCPs track record of underwhelming updates, more likely than not I'm just gonna bounce.