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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2013.07.23 16:02:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:But my frustrations stem from this notion that I'm not a logi if I don't have a rep tool or that I can go 30-1 in a match as a logi.
While going 30-1 I can still accumulate more WP from support than killing. What is wrong with that? Serious question
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Why do you get to bask in the glory of excelling at two roles when everyone else is stuck with one role?
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Posted - 2013.07.23 16:46:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:If they are better frontline fighters it's because of the person using the suit not because of the suit. I strongly doubt that considering how common killer bees are |
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Posted - 2013.07.23 16:54:00 -
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Aquinarius Zoltanus wrote:It's good to have the medic options there, but a logi still has to be a fighter first and foremost. See this is where your view seems to be skewed.
If you want the medic options to be there, but still be a fighter first and foremost, you go for assault
If you want to have fighting options to be there, but still be a medic first and foremost, you go for logistics.
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Posted - 2013.07.23 16:58:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:But that's like your opinion man Yet unlike your opinion, my opinion is backed up by the developers reducing the logistics suits combat abilities, along with their desire to enhance their support abilities.
I wanted to play a slayer, so I didn't build my slayer build on the support platform. |
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Posted - 2013.07.23 17:21:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Okay so 3-4 max out of 16 players
What are those players KDR for a corp as esteemed as Synergy?
Why are you concerned about the KDR on the support player?
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Posted - 2013.07.23 17:25:00 -
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hooc order wrote:I am talking about what the suit can carry. You know the way people keep saying the intent of what CCP meant logis to be.
If logis are only support with weaker health and weaker damage as people keep saying they should be then why should assault be allowed to carry this stuff?
Furthermore Assault should not have mines or explosives. Demolitions is a support role.
Why aren't players complaining about Assault suits not filling their role properly? Why are they so focused on putting the logi suit in a little box but not other classes as well?
it is almost as if the people who say logis should be weak are not playing logis....but in fact play other classes.
Imagine that. Mind pointing me to the assault suit that can carry 2, 3, or 4 equipments?
I seem to have missed those, thanks man, appreciate the help. |
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Posted - 2013.07.23 17:26:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Okay so 3-4 max out of 16 players
What are those players KDR for a corp as esteemed as Synergy?
Why are you concerned about the KDR on the support player? Read Zdub's post above. I'm concerned with being successful in PC as an officer of my corp. Then why did you build your slayer build on the support platform?
Why didn't you build it on an Assault platform, like say, the Assault suit? |
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Posted - 2013.07.23 17:41:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:I'd wager that close to 50% of dust is logi medic. I severely doubt that.
If anything, 50% of dust is Cal Logi wonderbread, in which case may the nerf bat strike hard and true.
I strongly, strongly doubt your imaginary numbers are anywhere near close. Want to be primary combat with a side of support? Play Assault. Want to be primarily support with a side of combat? Play logistics.
You all can enjoy your banter, CCP has already expressed their desire to adjust this and lower the logistics combat efficiency in favor of increasing their support abilities.
Have fun killer bees, the end is nigh
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Posted - 2013.07.23 17:55:00 -
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Assault suits are now flankers and no longer front line fighters
Yup
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Posted - 2013.07.23 18:05:00 -
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hooc order wrote: The same logic that says Logis should never be used for assault dictates that assault and scouts should never carry support equipment.
They shouldn't be able to PRIMARY as assaults
I don't remember the last time I saw a scout or assault PRIMARY as support.
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Posted - 2013.07.23 20:38:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Well you need to delete the other two and let the assault guys handle everything.
You just need to rep them while they are doing it. Even if you are in a shield heavy squad that doesn't need reps. Just do it anyway. We're all suffering from playing an incomplete game that lacks even the full set of basics.
That doesn't change the fact that CCP has been very clear about their stance of making Logi's be primarily focused on support, and their desire and intent to make good on that vision.
You're welcome to complain here in General, or continue to provide feedback in the Feedback section or IRC chat, but at the end of the day, if you wish to focus on slaying while playing as logistics, you're going to find yourself overall less efficient at what you do.
Now if you wanted to play a support character, then hey, guess what, you're ahead of the curve. |
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Posted - 2013.07.23 20:58:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Please refrain from posting in my thread any longer. I feel like I'm talking to my brother's kids or something. I'll post in your thread as often as I feel. Block me little bro.
I've just been pointing to CCPs tendencies, explanations, and general desires for the class.
You post a thread asking what role the logi should fill, but you don't want discussion; you want to be right no matter what. Logi's are the wonder unit that do it all, and they shouldn't be touched, right?
I look forward to bathing in your tears when the class is fixed like CCP has stated they intend to fix it.
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Posted - 2013.07.23 21:16:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:I'm not sure what you and I are going to accomplish going back and forth though. Probably not much, honestly. I don't want to derail what might continue as actual useful discussion, so I'll leave you all to it.
Best of luck guys
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Posted - 2013.07.23 23:23:00 -
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XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:silly COD players Silly Army of Two players
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