DUST Search - Letter/Petition to CCP for Skill Respec on May 14th

tribal wyvern wrote:

General Grodd wrote:

Dear CCP,
-á-á -á
-á-á -á I would like a skill respec on the 14th of May. I wasn't aware of certain skills nor that i invested in skills unrelated to what i wanted to unlock. Some skills were more costly than I had expected too. Also, it would be helpful considering there are new items (mainly weapons) coming the 14th.-á

Sincerely, General Grodd

If anyone else would like to have a respec the 14th, comment below and like.

People were advised to not blow their sp all at once, to think about what they were doing.
But no!
People gone and skilled to proto without skilling into modules and equipment.
I'm laughing right now at the people crying into their fruity pebbles because of their own stupidity.

If people had saved their sp until the 14th (as advised), and just gone militia until then........then everyone would be even on the field, with none of the problems going on now.
Then launch comes, skill up....suit up.....shut up, but no one listens because everyone 'gotta have proto'

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LongLostLust Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 2	Posted - 2013.05.09 23:23:00 - [331] - Quote Plus one on the respec. I probably wouldn't change what I specced into but I'm hearing that some of the vehicle skill description were misleading and not doing what they should be or not written as clearly as they could be. I wouldn't have a problem taking 5 minutes out of my day to respec. I always questioned why you would release a new skill tree, new suits, and not the new guns on the same day. Were they afraid we would try the new guns and quit playing dust prior to the 14th?? Figured having a week to play with the new guns speccing into them with an alt to get a good feel or where you want your points before PC started would have been a good idea. Some things CCP does makes you scratch your head. Its like they are just developers and not gamers. Games should have a flow and not be clunky. I think the new spawn screen is clunky and it surely broke the Nanite injectors more then they were before. How does something get worse with a new build?? I can understand not fixing every bug but making them worse?? And skirmish stats still don't apply???? Talk about a poor priority list from CCP. I would rather have smooth gameplay with lower graphics and less bugs VS a pretty game full of them.
Italian dude 93 Bloodwolves Battalion Alpha Wolf Pack 3	Posted - 2013.05.09 23:44:00 - [332] - Quote CCP did a good job on this game, I messed up my skill points it's my fault I would like another respec if it's possible. Signed.
Ignoble Son 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 194	Posted - 2013.05.10 00:01:00 - [333] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: To be clear, there probably will not be a respec on or before the 14th, however in a talk that we, the CPM had with the CCP devs today, they agreed that a number of skills need to be changed and tweeked. when this happens, CCP will most likely be offering a temporary optional respec. But this is because of skill changes, not because mistakes in SP investment where made. We dont want people getting used to the idea of SP refunding. Ya and what about the vehicle pilot who where lied to? Are you tellin me there isn't going to be a respec for us also?
BobThe843CakeMan Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 307	Posted - 2013.05.10 00:56:00 - [334] - Quote Knight SoIaire wrote: Damn, light bulb bump was going to be my next one! Oh well..... Light Bulb bump U mean like tht?
NIIKIA Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 62	Posted - 2013.05.10 01:27:00 - [335] - Quote I know some people say you made the bed now lay in it. And I get and understand most of us are adults.(we may not act like it) but even if you don't wanna be honest on the forums I'm sure every person here knows that dust 514 is not the same game it was last week for better or worse. People skilling into old class while they did do it why should they wait for someone else to say that their class changed and take them at their word. The gameplay has change so dramatically that asked for a respec is not out of the question. Aur items are not as useful ask they were and I doubt many people will be buying boosters anymore so may play aur for a respec like once a month or something.
0 Try Harder Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 347	Posted - 2013.05.10 01:27:00 - [336] - Quote /s 0 Try Harder p.s. if full respec is not an option, at least refund the skills which were incorrectly listed. @ the EVE n00bs, I have only about 1mil SP spent in things that would not be refunded, and if they were I would simply respec them again. Others put SP into things that essentially changed. It would be exactly the same as removing a core skill that EVE players use, and instead of refunding the SP, CCP spent the SP for you in a new skill that does absolutely nothing more than what you already have and can do. Perhaps the skill could be "@ lvl 5, you can pat on forums unless you are banned" when they let you post on forums without the skill at all.
Lightning xVx G I A N T EoN. 70	Posted - 2013.05.10 02:13:00 - [337] - Quote Bump
General Grodd Ahrendee Mercenaries 195	Posted - 2013.05.10 02:26:00 - [338] - Quote Tiberion Deci wrote: General Grodd wrote: Dear CCP, -á-á -á -á-á -á I would like a skill respec on the 14th of May. I wasn't aware of certain skills nor that i invested in skills unrelated to what i wanted to unlock. Some skills were more costly than I had expected too. Also, it would be helpful considering there are new items (mainly weapons) coming the 14th.-á Sincerely, General Grodd If anyone else would like to have a respec the 14th, comment below and like. EDIT: We would also have a better idea of what we like to use/what's more effective. since it would be a week after this past update. I hate to be that guy, but its your fault you didn't read before spending sp. If anyone should have a respec its people who specced into tanks or heavies since they got unbelievably nerfed (tanks moreso than heavies). Not anyone elses fault you didn't read. Triangle! Not X! I am a hardcore tanker. trust me.
General Grodd Ahrendee Mercenaries 195	Posted - 2013.05.10 02:27:00 - [339] - Quote General Grodd wrote: Tiberion Deci wrote: General Grodd wrote: Dear CCP, -á-á -á -á-á -á I would like a skill respec on the 14th of May. I wasn't aware of certain skills nor that i invested in skills unrelated to what i wanted to unlock. Some skills were more costly than I had expected too. Also, it would be helpful considering there are new items (mainly weapons) coming the 14th.-á Sincerely, General Grodd If anyone else would like to have a respec the 14th, comment below and like. EDIT: We would also have a better idea of what we like to use/what's more effective. since it would be a week after this past update. I hate to be that guy, but its your fault you didn't read before spending sp. If anyone should have a respec its people who specced into tanks or heavies since they got unbelievably nerfed (tanks moreso than heavies). Not anyone elses fault you didn't read. Triangle! Not X! I am a hardcore tanker. trust me. And my second best role is a heavy. 3rd being dropship (and closing in fast)
General John Ripper ROGUE SPADES EoN. 148	Posted - 2013.05.10 02:37:00 - [340] - Quote Please CCP Listen to your player base before we all decide to shoot u the finger and quit this game. It is the players who make this game what it is. without us the game will be dead.

Rekon Syport ZionTCD Unclaimed. 10	Posted - 2013.05.10 02:38:00 - [341] - Quote I'm throwing my name in. I love my build but there are plenty of legitimate reasons. Of course this will happen every time you change the baseline of the game because it's no longer the same game. CCP needs to first figure out a foundation of consistency from build to build then give us the ability to . . proceed.
Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 226	Posted - 2013.05.10 02:39:00 - [342] - Quote tribal wyvern wrote: General Grodd wrote: Dear CCP, -á-á -á -á-á -á I would like a skill respec on the 14th of May. I wasn't aware of certain skills nor that i invested in skills unrelated to what i wanted to unlock. Some skills were more costly than I had expected too. Also, it would be helpful considering there are new items (mainly weapons) coming the 14th.-á Sincerely, General Grodd If anyone else would like to have a respec the 14th, comment below and like. People were advised to not blow their sp all at once, to think about what they were doing. But no! People gone and skilled to proto without skilling into modules and equipment. I'm laughing right now at the people crying into their fruity pebbles because of their own stupidity. If people had saved their sp until the 14th (as advised), and just gone militia until then........then everyone would be even on the field, with none of the problems going on now. Then launch comes, skill up....suit up.....shut up, but no one listens because everyone 'gotta have proto' SORRY the three hours i thought about it wasn't enough! I DIDN'T THINK THE CALDARI PROTO LOGI WOULD BE BETTER THEN ANY OTHER ASSAULT SUIT...... I DIDN'T THINK THE PROTO TACT RIFLE WOULD BE THE ONLY VIABLE GUN...... If i had known what i know now i would have specced full caldari logi with tact rifle, but instead im stuck with a half built amar suit with an LR that does absolutely nothing anymore...... sure it can melt people sometimes, if there standing still with low HP, but given the overheat, and the reduced range (also less damage at range for some reason.....). OBVIOUSLY its my fault for wanting to spec into something before i realized how broken everything was.... I still have faith in the game of course, its just this is a really rough time.
Silver-Ace Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 12	Posted - 2013.05.10 03:01:00 - [343] - Quote I don't know if this is possible but if it is maybe CCP could respec SP that are in the specific skills/items they are changing. Such as the changes to the vehicle skills all SP put into vehicles will be given back to you. Another example is when they introduce the new heavy suits they should give all SP put into heavy frame suits should be given back to you. If this can't be done then I think a total respec of SP would be in order.
CRAZYHORSE ONE EIGHT CowTek IT Infotech 10	Posted - 2013.05.10 04:52:00 - [344] - Quote I will sign this if they are NOT fixing the Vehicle Engineering skill to give +5% more PG to vehicles like the description states. If they are making it work correctly then disregard this post. If they just change the description to Vehicle Engineering -> "Reduces the CPU usage requirement of powergrid upgrade modules at -5% per level", then i think a respec option would be fair. The vehicle engineering bonus of CPU reduction to a module that takes 15 CPU or so is pretty much useless bonus. An extra 4 or 5 CPU on a tank really won't help much especially when i already have plenty of CPU in reserve (with only the Vehicle electonics skill at level 4).
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 65	Posted - 2013.05.10 04:56:00 - [345] - Quote NO RESPEC FOR YOU https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=75285&find=unread 3 way to go from here: 1- CCP Announces RESPEC between today and tomorrow so everybody gets to test stuff and be happy with a reset. 2- Dont announce anything, like always , and DONT do a respec. Have -+ of your players whining that they didnt know the new stuff would be so good blabla ....The ones who waited like me will be sorry for them but well.... 3- Charge a small amount of AUR for a RESET. That way everyone that wants a second chance can have it and the ones that waited wont regret not spending their SP earlier since they dont need to pay AUR for a respec....
Vexen Krios The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 5	Posted - 2013.05.10 04:58:00 - [346] - Quote personally, i don't care either way. I've guffed up a few skills myself but nothing i wouldn't skill into later on. but if they have skills that aren't working or are changing some skills then their needs to be another respec that's just plain common sense. If you put skills into something and it doesn't work or they are changing it to do something else then yeah skills need to be respec.
Imp Smash On The Brink CRONOS. 79	Posted - 2013.05.10 06:17:00 - [347] - Quote I disagree with respecs in general. Plenty of warning was given about upcoming items and the skills all state clearly what they do. If you don't read the skills carefully and screw up I say that is your fault. I did not blow my sp and am waiting for May 14th. That being said - I think in this instance a respec is fair and even needed. A lot of the skills are mislabeled and DON'T do what they say they do. Simple data entry bugs that have hurt a fair portion of the player base. Again - I saved my skill points. I am unhurt by this. However I see the validity of a respec for other players.
General John Ripper ROGUE SPADES EoN. 148	Posted - 2013.05.10 11:01:00 - [348] - Quote CCP you see how long this thread is??? listen to us!
ALM1GHTY B44L R00 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 0	Posted - 2013.05.10 11:05:00 - [349] - Quote With the vehicle shield extender issue that has occurred, count me in on this one. I'd really appreciate getting those wasted SPs back.
Slightly-Mental Planetary Research and Investments Ash's to Ash's 4	Posted - 2013.05.10 11:08:00 - [350] - Quote Signed.

Nero Fiddle Ametat Security Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2013.05.10 12:41:00 - [351] - Quote The skills that were poorly written and mislead people into going a route they may not have gone knowing the truth is,I beleive reason enough to do a respec. To the people that screwed up their points: you get off lucky. Nero.
BattleCry1791 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 240	Posted - 2013.05.10 12:48:00 - [352] - Quote ALM1GHTY B44L R00 wrote: With the vehicle shield extender issue that has occurred, count me in on this one. I'd really appreciate getting those wasted SPs back. Oh man did that **** me off. respec again? Sure, but only once the other Heavy suits come out to play.
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1040	Posted - 2013.05.10 12:52:00 - [353] - Quote The hotfix is out and has changed things in the vehicle tree once again The new descriptions are worse than the old ones and have mislead me into putting my SP into a useless skill The shield extenders and damage control changes also mean i have lost SP A skill respec is what is needed
Kekklian Noobatronic Goonfeet 9	Posted - 2013.05.10 12:56:00 - [354] - Quote One word: Threadnought.
john smitharooni Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2013.05.10 13:11:00 - [355] - Quote I spec you spec we all spec for a respec
Ludwig Van Beatdropin Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 213	Posted - 2013.05.10 13:37:00 - [356] - Quote
H4lfdog KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 23	Posted - 2013.05.10 20:16:00 - [357] - Quote /Respecting the players !
General Grodd Ahrendee Mercenaries 202	Posted - 2013.05.10 20:44:00 - [358] - Quote Bump
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 23	Posted - 2013.05.10 20:51:00 - [359] - Quote to ccp: if u choose not to do a respec u will probably be bombarded with threads about how the new weapons/suits are op. ppl were getting raped by protos and had to skill into stuff that was available to counter that. with the cost of everything nowadays that means going broke to get into a decent suit/gun for most ppl. some of us might even spec into the suits u sold us which we cant use anymore. i think a respec wud result in alot less crying.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2909	Posted - 2013.05.10 21:19:00 - [360] - Quote CRAZYHORSE ONE EIGHT wrote: I will sign this if they are NOT fixing the Vehicle Engineering skill to give +5% more PG to vehicles like the description states. If they are making it work correctly then disregard this post. If they just change the description to Vehicle Engineering -> "Reduces the CPU usage requirement of powergrid upgrade modules at -5% per level", then i think a respec option would be fair. The vehicle engineering bonus of CPU reduction to a module that takes 15 CPU or so is pretty much useless bonus. An extra 4 or 5 CPU on a tank really won't help much especially when i already have plenty of CPU in reserve (with only the Vehicle electonics skill at level 4). They've changed the description. I CAN create a decent - not ideal - substitute for my previous HAV design, but I've got SP invested into skills that DON'T work as advertised when I skilled into them. I also had a problem where I needed a little extra CPU, and trained a skill to get it which doesn't apply to the module I was using, because it's a Militia module (and some Militia mods aren't benefitting from relevant skills). Basically, I have almost 1 million SP invested incorrectly because of CCP's mistakes, and I'm going to need my SP back so I can actually spend it where it will be useful. And all you people saying "no respec for you" and "you should have read the descriptions", DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS? NO. STFU.



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