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Heavy Breaks
Ill Omens EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.10 21:31:00 -
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Read this >>
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=75594&find=unread
Quote:Skill point progression: Based on your feedback we will be doing further adjustments to skill point requirements for specializations, which received a massive rework in Uprising along with the new node based visualization of the tech tree. Our plan is to address this by tweaking skill point requirements GÇô and in that process reimburse you with the skill points that youGÇÖve spent back to your unused skill pool. Additionally, we are planning an optional skill point respec of skill points to players via petitioning our game masters after this change occurs, in case some of you may not be completely satisfied with your original choices. We also believe that this will solve some dropsuit requirements that were changed in Uprising, giving you easier access to those items again. Details about changes to the skill point progress will be forthcoming when available, and weGÇÖll provide an updated spreadsheet in advance of that (the previous one provided) here.
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Kovak Therim
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
235
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Posted - 2013.05.10 21:58:00 -
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Glad to hear we will be getting a respec. And kudos to CCP for showing that they are listening. Not another word from me. Okay, 3 more: Gallente. Heavy. Frame. :) |
Human Anamoly
Planetary Response Organisation
1
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Posted - 2013.05.10 22:11:00 -
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Completely agree Grodd. As a 6 million SP Dropship pilot with extremely low pg/cpu (since the skills aren't working), I would love a skill reset, even if it was an optional one just for the players who wanted it.
TL;DR: Optional Skill Reset for those who want it, followed by an Aurum purchasable item in the Marketplace to accommodate any future mistakes made by CCP and/or it's players. |
Rusty Shaklefurd
Couch Legion
1
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Posted - 2013.05.10 22:41:00 -
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Welcome to Eve Online!!!
Drake Fleets anyone??
For those of you that are not Eve pilots, you will learn that CCP will always be adjusting the game... After one patch shotguns will be AWESOME, then they will fix it with the next patch and Lasers will be the gun to have. You have to think about what you are doing with your skill points. They cant be expected to re-skill because of bad player choices. The best part about Eve, and now Dust514 is the fact that it is unforgiving. The player that thinks will win... not just the one with the best gear.
The issue is that players wanted to OWN LIVES and bought stupid skills before reading them to have the best gear... and now a 2k militia fit owns your proto because of players with utility shield and armour skills.
My vote is to leave it the way that it is... Or at the very least chalk Uprising up as a beta expansion and do one last skill re-boot at launch.
THEN NEVER AGAIN!!!!
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Heavy Breaks
Ill Omens EoN.
43
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Posted - 2013.05.10 22:49:00 -
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Wow some people really can't read.
I'll just repost and reiterate my last comment; /Thread
Heavy Breaks wrote:Read this >> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=75594&find=unreadQuote:Skill point progression: Based on your feedback we will be doing further adjustments to skill point requirements for specializations, which received a massive rework in Uprising along with the new node based visualization of the tech tree. Our plan is to address this by tweaking skill point requirements GÇô and in that process reimburse you with the skill points that youGÇÖve spent back to your unused skill pool. Additionally, we are planning an optional skill point respec of skill points to players via petitioning our game masters after this change occursin case some of you may not be completely satisfied with your original choices. We also believe that this will solve some dropsuit requirements that were changed in Uprising, giving you easier access to those items again. Details about changes to the skill point progress will be forthcoming when available, and weGÇÖll provide an updated spreadsheet in advance of that (the previous one provided) here. /Thread |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
4
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Posted - 2013.05.10 22:53:00 -
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Human Anamoly wrote:Completely agree Grodd. As a 6 million SP Dropship pilot with extremely low pg/cpu (since the skills aren't working), I would love a skill reset, even if it was an optional one just for the players who wanted it.
TL;DR: Optional Skill Reset for those who want it, followed by an Aurum purchasable item in the Marketplace to accommodate any future mistakes made by CCP and/or it's players.
lol@TLDR
I've decided this would be fair to me and everyone else.
- Everybody gets a respec - use it whenever you want.
- Those who've not spent any SP at all this build - give them an extra respec.
- Announce and implement this all Now (TM)
kthxgg |
Rusty Shaklefurd
Couch Legion
1
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:03:00 -
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OMFG FULL SKILL RESET AT LAUNCH... EVERYONE STARTS AT 1Mill SP
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Savaric Koldaga
Conspiratus Immortalis League of Infamy
0
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Posted - 2013.05.11 00:33:00 -
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I sign for a respec on the 14th. Is this the official signing or do I have to message CCP |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
305
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Posted - 2013.05.11 01:46:00 -
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here's a free bump!!! |
General Grodd
Ahrendee Mercenaries
207
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Posted - 2013.05.11 04:01:00 -
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Keep up the good work! Quote: Skill point progression: Based on your feedback we will be doing further adjustments to skill point requirements for specializations, which received a massive rework in Uprising along with the new node based visualization of the tech tree. Our plan is to address this by tweaking skill point requirements GÇô and in that process reimburse you with the skill points that youGÇÖve spent back to your unused skill pool. Additionally, we are planning an optional skill point respec of skill points to players via petitioning our game masters after this change occurs, in case some of you may not be completely satisfied with your original choices. We also believe that this will solve some dropsuit requirements that were changed in Uprising, giving you easier access to those items again. Details about changes to the skill point progress will be forthcoming when available, and weGÇÖll provide an updated spreadsheet in advance of that (the previous one provided
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Arizek Tomar
Shadow Company HQ
0
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Posted - 2013.05.11 05:13:00 -
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Supported (I got so confused at first and totally went in a direction I absolutely did not want)
Arizek- |
danny12343331
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
53
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Posted - 2013.05.11 05:31:00 -
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Bump for the future of DUST the best game in PS3. |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
496
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Posted - 2013.05.11 05:48:00 -
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i too want to respec. because tanks 514 is going to start and i need to gain all my skill points to be a tank pilot as well. |
Dark Deviser
XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S
0
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Posted - 2013.05.11 07:19:00 -
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+1
I want a full respec on all my chars CCP! before may 14th lol! tyvm CCP. ily <3 |
Soul Kirk
Ivy'Ki
0
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Posted - 2013.05.11 07:26:00 -
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Signed
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Your Absolut End
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
49
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Posted - 2013.05.11 07:39:00 -
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/signed |
DeeJay One
BetaMax. CRONOS.
27
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Posted - 2013.05.11 08:02:00 -
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Necrodermis wrote:i too want to respec. because tanks 514 is going to start and i need to gain all my skill points to be a tank pilot as well. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=75594&find=unread
CCP Cmdr Wang wrote: Skill point progression: Based on your feedback we will be doing further adjustments to skill point requirements for specializations, which received a massive rework in Uprising along with the new node based visualization of the tech tree. Our plan is to address this by tweaking skill point requirements GÇô and in that process reimburse you with the skill points that youGÇÖve spent back to your unused skill pool. Additionally, we are planning an optional skill point respec of skill points to players via petitioning our game masters after this change occurs, in case some of you may not be completely satisfied with your original choices. We also believe that this will solve some dropsuit requirements that were changed in Uprising, giving you easier access to those items again.
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Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.11 08:12:00 -
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IT Happaning |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1046
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Posted - 2013.05.11 09:27:00 -
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Back to the top |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
37
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Posted - 2013.05.11 09:29:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:Back to the top
i think i remember u from MAG. perhaps im mistaken. cool name tho |
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Darius Ashran
BetaMax. CRONOS.
23
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Posted - 2013.05.11 09:41:00 -
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So lets see a lot of you went and made impulsive choices without doing your reading and research as to what those choices would get you and now your crying for CCP to fix your mistakes? Look skills where bugged its true. It also was not hidden. Clear inspection between the skills and modules showed the discrepancy clearly . If you then choose to spec into Dropsuits instead of waiting for CCP to fix it . People that is stupidity worthy of a golf clap. And just plane short sighted.
Vehicles are getting buffed so "LOL now respec time for me?! ?" or just spec into av and don't suck at at? What do you guys not understand about the concept of choices and consequences. Meaningful specialization. That is so central and has been to Dust and the CCP development philosophy stated numerous times.
You made choices. You screwed up. Deal with your results.
A little personal responsibility would probably go a long way for a few of you to give you some pause the next time you decide to bull rush in.And for those that simply where impatient. Tough **** read the above.
Why so many of you think your entitled to demand CCP fix your mistake is beyond me. Its shameful and stupid behavior. If you screwed up and your unhappy you should be you should feel bad it was dumb. If CCP gives you the re-spec at least try to learn from your past experience. In my opinion its more then some of you deserve. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2926
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Posted - 2013.05.11 09:50:00 -
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Darius Ashran wrote:So lets see a lot of you went and made impulsive choices without doing your reading and research as to what those choices would get you and now your crying for CCP to fix your mistakes? Look skills where bugged its true. It also was not hidden. Clear inspection between the skills and modules showed the discrepancy clearly . If you then choose to spec into Dropsuits instead of waiting for CCP to fix it . People that is stupidity worthy of a golf clap. And just plane short sighted. Which combination of modules and skills was it possible for me to look at to find out that Vehicle Engineering gives a reduction in CPU cost to PG modules instead of the PG increase that was described on the skill? And where would I find the information about Militia modules not getting this benefit either?
Which combination of modules and skills should I have looked at to find out that Militia Shield Extenders don't get the CPU reduction from Shield Extension? |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1046
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Posted - 2013.05.11 09:55:00 -
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Darius Ashran wrote:So lets see a lot of you went and made impulsive choices without doing your reading and research as to what those choices would get you and now your crying for CCP to fix your mistakes? Look skills where bugged its true. It also was not hidden. Clear inspection between the skills and modules showed the discrepancy clearly . If you then choose to spec into Dropsuits instead of waiting for CCP to fix it . People that is stupidity worthy of a golf clap. And just plane short sighted.
Vehicles are getting buffed so "LOL now respec time for me?! ?" or just spec into av and don't suck at at? What do you guys not understand about the concept of choices and consequences. Meaningful specialization. That is so central and has been to Dust and the CCP development philosophy stated numerous times.
You made choices. You screwed up. Deal with your results.
A little personal responsibility would probably go a long way for a few of you to give you some pause the next time you decide to bull rush in.And for those that simply where impatient. Tough **** read the above.
Why so many of you think your entitled to demand CCP fix your mistake is beyond me. Its shameful and stupid behavior. If you screwed up and your unhappy you should be you should feel bad it was dumb. If CCP gives you the re-spec at least try to learn from your past experience. In my opinion its more then some of you deserve.
Yet another dumbass who doesnt read the forums because if she did she would have relaised that those who specced into vehicles got lied to by CCP because they decided to change what some skills do but not update the skills in uprising with the proper descriptions so we waste SP into a skill we may never use |
Darius Ashran
BetaMax. CRONOS.
23
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Posted - 2013.05.11 10:42:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Darius Ashran wrote:So lets see a lot of you went and made impulsive choices without doing your reading and research as to what those choices would get you and now your crying for CCP to fix your mistakes? Look skills where bugged its true. It also was not hidden. Clear inspection between the skills and modules showed the discrepancy clearly . If you then choose to spec into Dropsuits instead of waiting for CCP to fix it . People that is stupidity worthy of a golf clap. And just plane short sighted. Which combination of modules and skills was it possible for me to look at to find out that Vehicle Engineering gives a reduction in CPU cost to PG modules instead of the PG increase that was described on the skill? And where would I find the information about Militia modules not getting this benefit either? Which combination of modules and skills should I have looked at to find out that Militia Shield Extenders don't get the CPU reduction from Shield Extension?
Note in my statement I was not referencing vehicle skills not applying the right bonus to a given mod but rather the Mods showing the right skill requirements ( though the effect was broken) And then people going and investing the the dropsuits skills instead as a stop gap rather then waiting for a fix. And this was indeed as i said clearly visible. At no point was I referencing modules not getting a bonus. Hope that clears that up for you.
And English as for you. Damn, I really dont even know what to say to you. That train of though is so twisted into knots...
CCP Lied to you? This was all a vast conspiracy to **** over vehicle drives while CCP giggles about it? A vast and stupid oversight yes? Deliberate deceit? Are you literally stupid or just deluded to the point of not comprehending? Are you just trolling ? I hope your trolling for your sake I really do.
I have read the post and the feed back on the issue. And what I got from it was people are unhappy ( and rightfully so) that the vehicle skills where not working right. But then some perhaps even fair to say many then invested in dropsuit skills even while the items still called for vehicle skills as a stop gap so they could" PLAY NOW" aka instant gratification. Then hear we are now with people demanding that poor choice be fixed and SP refunded. Now the skills where not working but the requirements from what I examined where right on most of them certainly enough for context, the skills where just not functioning. If your reference to " skills we may never use" was in regard to the dropsuit skills.. I direct you to my previous post. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2931
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Posted - 2013.05.11 11:05:00 -
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Darius Ashran wrote:Note in my statement I was not referencing vehicle skills not applying the right bonus to a given mod but rather the Mods showing the right skill requirements ( though the effect was broken) And then people going and investing the the dropsuits skills instead as a stop gap rather then waiting for a fix. And this was indeed as i said clearly visible. At no point was I referencing modules not getting a bonus. Hope that clears that up for you. All you're saying is that nobody should get a respec, and that we should have looked at the modules and skills to see the problems. Some of the problems which caused people to spend SP incorrectly were problems that WEREN'T obvious by following your advice.
Quote:Now here we are with people demanding that poor choice be fixed and SP refunded. Now the skills where not working but the requirements from what I examined where right on most of them certainly enough for context, the skills where just not functioning. If your reference to " skills we may never use" was in regard to the dropsuit skills.. I direct you to my previous post. So this means that you not only can't spell "were", but also think that people with LEGITIMATE expenditure of SP on skills that were incorrectly described shouldn't get our SP respec because there are other people who don't deserve one?
Quote:Should CCP refund? Imo no. But again if they do. Learn something from the mistake made prior and be thankful CCP fixed it for you. The community IS entitled to many things as we are the consumer. But we are not entitled to foolish choices with no consequences. I'll take this as confirmation of my previous question.
I don't agree. I can work around the problems, but it would make more sense to get the SP back when it wasn't invested into what I was told I was buying. |
Heavy Breaks
Ill Omens EoN.
43
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Posted - 2013.05.11 11:18:00 -
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Heavy Breaks wrote:Wow some people really can't read. I'll just repost and reiterate my last comment; /Thread Heavy Breaks wrote:Read this >> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=75594&find=unreadQuote:Skill point progression: Based on your feedback we will be doing further adjustments to skill point requirements for specializations, which received a massive rework in Uprising along with the new node based visualization of the tech tree. Our plan is to address this by tweaking skill point requirements GÇô and in that process reimburse you with the skill points that youGÇÖve spent back to your unused skill pool. Additionally, we are planning an optional skill point respec of skill points to players via petitioning our game masters after this change occursin case some of you may not be completely satisfied with your original choices. We also believe that this will solve some dropsuit requirements that were changed in Uprising, giving you easier access to those items again. Details about changes to the skill point progress will be forthcoming when available, and weGÇÖll provide an updated spreadsheet in advance of that (the previous one provided) here. /Thread
Ok third and final time I will reiterate this point.
Wtf are you people still trolling each other about?
/thekittenthreadalready. |
Darius Ashran
BetaMax. CRONOS.
23
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Posted - 2013.05.11 11:33:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Darius Ashran wrote:Note in my statement I was not referencing vehicle skills not applying the right bonus to a given mod but rather the Mods showing the right skill requirements ( though the effect was broken) And then people going and investing the the dropsuits skills instead as a stop gap rather then waiting for a fix. And this was indeed as i said clearly visible. At no point was I referencing modules not getting a bonus. Hope that clears that up for you. All you're saying is that nobody should get a respec, and that we should have looked at the modules and skills to see the problems. Some of the problems which caused people to spend SP incorrectly were problems that WEREN'T obvious by following your advice. Quote:Now here we are with people demanding that poor choice be fixed and SP refunded. Now the skills where not working but the requirements from what I examined where right on most of them certainly enough for context, the skills where just not functioning. If your reference to " skills we may never use" was in regard to the dropsuit skills.. I direct you to my previous post. So this means that you not only can't spell "were", but also think that people with LEGITIMATE expenditure of SP on skills that were incorrectly described shouldn't get our SP respec because there are other people who don't deserve one? Quote:Should CCP refund? Imo no. But again if they do. Learn something from the mistake made prior and be thankful CCP fixed it for you. The community IS entitled to many things as we are the consumer. But we are not entitled to foolish choices with no consequences. I'll take this as confirmation of my previous question. I don't agree. I can work around the problems, but it would make more sense to get the SP back when it wasn't invested into what I was told I was buying.
I would point out Garret less then half that post was directed at you, please read carefully. Most was directed at English tryn reading it as such. And yes I made a typo clearly this is an indictment of my ability in regards to spelling. ( note the sarcasm just in case you missed it) Honestly, it seems like your going out of your way to misinterpret things or your just not paying attention.
If those things don't apply to you then don't take offense to them. If they do grow a pair and try moving on from sad and petty attempts at instigating anger in others rather then forming a good counter point it will serve you better.
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2932
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Posted - 2013.05.11 11:40:00 -
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Darius Ashran wrote:I would point out Garret less then half that post was directed at you, please read carefully. Most was directed at English tryn reading it as such. And yes I made a typo clearly this is an indictment of my ability in regards to spelling. ( note the sarcasm just in case you missed it) Honestly, it seems like your going out of your way to misinterpret things or your just not paying attention.
If those things don't apply to you then don't take offense to them. If they do grow a pair and try moving on from sad and petty attempts at instigating anger in others rather then forming a good counter point it will serve you better. My name has a double "t"
Sorry for calling you on the typo, didn't think you'd take that part seriously.
But you were specifically arguing "no" on a respec, and giving reasons that don't apply to everyone wanting a respec. THAT was my point. |
Sorry Wrong Chat
Phantom Universe Task Force Orion Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.05.11 11:43:00 -
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I am strictly against a SP Reset in any way.
Though I am still a noob with les than 8 Mio SPs I think CCP gave us enough information before 6th of May.
Some pple said, why should I read all of these informations in forum, i wont do that - BUT i wanna have my SP back --> well RTFM or **** happens....
I know a lot of ppl who made wrong decisions in their Skill Consumption after 6th of May, and other who chose more wisley.
Some players did not spent their SPs, waiting for the new weapons.
Both strategies have their pros and contras, it is a player decision.
I think pple who ran straight forward without thinking what they are skilling should not get the advantage in resetting their SP again, because now "they know it better".
Every decision with SPs should be final, no way to change.
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens Orion Empire
105
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Posted - 2013.05.11 12:01:00 -
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Guys, this thread has played out. CCP agrees. There will be a reset when the skills are changed again. It *might* be within the month, it might take longer.
It is interesting to read this though. It went something like this:
Person A: "No respec because you should have to live with your mistakes." Person B: "The game lied to us about what the skill actually does. It was a sort of bait-and-switch. A respec is needed to fix these issues, both for the integrity of the game and for the faith of the consumer." Person A: "I understand that Vehicles have a problem but I still don't like respecs. This time it is necessary because of the problems." All is well, until 5 minutes later: Person C: "No respec because you should have to live with your mistakes."
Thus the problem with megathreads in that reading the whole thing is simply too time consuming.
Be well. |
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