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Mr Zitro
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
536
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Posted - 2013.05.08 02:59:00 -
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I like this idea, if this happens I will respec into heavy and show scrubs how to use it! |
NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
214
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Posted - 2013.05.08 03:01:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:I like this idea, if this happens I will respec into heavy and show scrubs how to use it! I demand that CCP makes this happen just so we can all see Zitro's leet skills! |
Lordbraveheart1
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2013.05.08 03:16:00 -
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Just throwing this out there, as food for thought. If we all just sat around on our SP and waited to see what was good and what wasn't...then who would find out what was good and what wasn't?
Oh right, no one. There has to be those forerunners and risk takers to gather intel and report back on their experiences with items and skills. You won't know until you (or someone you know) tried, and here we find ourselves talking to those who tried. |
Lightning xVx
G I A N T EoN.
51
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Posted - 2013.05.08 03:18:00 -
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I would like an option for this as well, not a "Full Respec" (Aurum or ISK) just SP. |
General Hornet
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
56
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Posted - 2013.05.08 03:22:00 -
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This would be a excellent idea, I know some guys are saying waaah you should have read the stats prior but everything that was available to read prior to this build was not accurate and as someone stated earlier some of the stuff you read and skilled into doesn't work as intended. It would be a nice gesture on ccp's behalf that way it gives the people a week to test the new build and then change up there skills accordingly after having a feel for what direction ccp is going with this build. |
Lightning xVx
G I A N T EoN.
51
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Posted - 2013.05.08 03:26:00 -
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General Hornet wrote:This would be a excellent idea, I know some guys are saying waaah you should have read the stats prior but everything that was available to read prior to this build was not accurate and as someone stated earlier some of the stuff you read and skilled into doesn't work as intended. It would be a nice gesture on ccp's behalf that way it gives the people a week to test the new build and then change up there skills accordingly after having a feel for what direction ccp is going with this build.
And if I remember correctly this isn't "Full Release" so an option for just a SP reset would be nice on release. JUST SP* |
Ren Ayashi
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
0
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Posted - 2013.05.08 03:30:00 -
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Vote and bump. |
Fuzzy Jello
Goonfeet
2
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Posted - 2013.05.08 03:31:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:Dude it's been mentioned numerous times by dev posts and at fanfest (see 'ccp presents'), the plasma cannon, flaylock pistol and others are coming on the 14th with planetary conquest.
Regardless of it being mentioned, that form of implementation is counter intuitive and runs the risk of upsetting the playerbase. The smart thing would have been to release all the new weapons on the same day of the respec so there would be equal opportunity and no buyer's remorse per se. Although many other factors contribute to SP buyer's remorse. |
mollerz
s1ck3r Corp
203
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Posted - 2013.05.08 03:48:00 -
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Full disclosure. I would respec exactly the way I did on uprising release.
However, I wouldn't care if they did another respec for full launch. I don't see this as a big deal, and since it wasn't fully released with content and features it would just make this point in time more of a play test.
But no more QQ about anything else! |
Omnipotent Zitro
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
173
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Posted - 2013.05.08 03:50:00 -
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I agree we need another respec on May 14.
But CCP should add a respec item in the future. |
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Buwaro Draemon
Soldiers Of One Network Orion Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.05.08 03:50:00 -
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Yes please!!
We must keepthis thread in the first page if we wang CCP to really see it. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2768
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Posted - 2013.05.08 03:55:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:copy left wrote:I think it would be fair to allow us a respec for the 14th. After all people want to try the new weapons out. And what about those who are happy with their choices now? Not everyone is demanding ANOTHER respec. There are skills (mostly for vehicles) which blatantly don't provide the bonus they list in their description. When the only way to find that out was to skill into them, realise you didn't have the capabilities you needed, then skill further into them thinking maybe there had been a stealth nerf to the base stats on your tank, then go back and realise that nothing has changed, then what are you supposed to do?
Hope they fix it, and just deal with the fact that you're not over-skilled and have lost SP you wouldn't have spent if you knew it was a broken skill? Or let them change the skill description without refunding the lost SP that now covers not just those skills, but everything vehicle-related because there's no way you're going to try and run a tank with that little PG? |
Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens Orion Empire
86
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Posted - 2013.05.08 03:55:00 -
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BobThe843CakeMan wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=73748&find=unread it's because of this.
You have got to be freaking kidding me...
So the skill that I put all those points into so I can actually use a vehicle is actually lying to me and is meant to do something completely different?
Yes, please allow a respec. When skills explicitly state that they do X but instead do Y, that is the fault of the game makers when people 'make mistakes' and level that skill. That is seriously lame... |
Pole Oh
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.08 04:05:00 -
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If skills are glitched, a repel option should be in order for 5/14, unless of course this stuff is fixed by then. |
Soozu
5o1st
70
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Posted - 2013.05.08 04:06:00 -
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+1
According to the descriptions I should have my old tank back... Instead, I can't run squat.
It also might stop those from rage quitting to stop and reconsider......
Also put the time in and tested my shotgun fully now. The better players have figured out my range. SMG is now primary and shogun secondary.... working as intended? On these updated maps with so many open spaces... it ain't gonna work.
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2768
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Posted - 2013.05.08 04:07:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:BobThe843CakeMan wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=73748&find=unread it's because of this. You have got to be freaking kidding me... So the skill that I put all those points into so I can actually use a vehicle is actually lying to me and is meant to do something completely different? Yes, please allow a respec. When skills explicitly state that they do X but instead do Y, that is the fault of the game makers when people 'make mistakes' and level that skill. That is seriously lame... I think it's worth mentioning the devs have said they know there's a problem with "the PG skill" on tanks, and are going to fix it, but they haven't given a straight answer on whether the skill is applying to the wrong thing, or the description is incorrect. If it's the former, we MIGHT be able to use the skill - but if we've over-skilled, that's still a huge amound of SP that's been wasted by pouring into something we only needed for the passives. |
NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
217
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Posted - 2013.05.08 04:12:00 -
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Omnipotent Zitro wrote:I agree we need another respec on May 14.
But CCP should add a respec item in the future. I'd pay 20$ just to not have to grind the 2 mill SP I wasted today |
Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens Orion Empire
87
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Posted - 2013.05.08 04:18:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:BobThe843CakeMan wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=73748&find=unread it's because of this. You have got to be freaking kidding me... So the skill that I put all those points into so I can actually use a vehicle is actually lying to me and is meant to do something completely different? Yes, please allow a respec. When skills explicitly state that they do X but instead do Y, that is the fault of the game makers when people 'make mistakes' and level that skill. That is seriously lame... I think it's worth mentioning the devs have said they know there's a problem with "the PG skill" on tanks, and are going to fix it, but they haven't given a straight answer on whether the skill is applying to the wrong thing, or the description is incorrect. If it's the former, we MIGHT be able to use the skill - but if we've over-skilled, that's still a huge amound of SP that's been wasted by pouring into something we only needed for the passives.
It isn't only that...
What does an Armor Tank use? Well, a plate, a repairer, and a turret of some kind obviously. When I looked at the Madruggar, i noticed the lower PG but noticed that I could still increase the PG (though it would be more expensive). A plate and a repairer is 2,000 PG and a turret is about another 1,000 (if it is a blaster). It is literally impossible to build the Tank that I was going to use, the Tank that I "knew" I could use because I ran the numbers.
Knowing now that the Skills were wrong and what I wanted to do is essentially impossible, I would like a respec. Out of no fault of our own, anyone that put points in Tanks expecting to get the listed benefits essentially wasted all of those points. It isn't even a case of "I want Proto NOW." |
RedBleach LeSanglant
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
167
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Posted - 2013.05.08 04:21:00 -
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There is so much to test. I to bungled some skill points in testing as the skills were not clear on how they interacted for my logibro crew. I would like a reset as well now knowing what was not posted at the time, how some skills are broken and how others do not act as they should.
One example, as some of you may know, now that investing in different special suits that say "logistics suit bonus: etc." do not stack for every logistics suit. It is not specified that it will only work for that suit because beneath that is another statements saying the racial variant bonus of the suit. Yet the skill only applies to that suit type. That was not listed, it needed to be tested.
Allowing the skilling to stack would have been op - but it needed to be verified and now we can recommend that the writing clarify such statements like adding the racial variant name to both skills listed so as to announce that it only works on that suit and not just the class.
SP Reset |
crazy space 1
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
1098
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Posted - 2013.05.08 04:22:00 -
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Ther =e should even be a wipe when new heavies are introduced. Once they have each race in they can stop doing resets.... >.> |
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2769
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Posted - 2013.05.08 04:29:00 -
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RedBleach LeSanglant wrote:There is so much to test. I to bungled some skill points in testing as the skills were not clear on how they interacted for my logibro crew. I would like a reset as well now knowing what was not posted at the time, how some skills are broken and how others do not act as they should.
One example, as some of you may know, now that investing in different special suits that say "logistics suit bonus: etc." do not stack for every logistics suit. It is not specified that it will only work for that suit because beneath that is another statements saying the racial variant bonus of the suit. Yet the skill only applies to that suit type. That was not listed, it needed to be tested.
Allowing the skilling to stack would have been op - but it needed to be verified and now we can recommend that the writing clarify such statements like adding the racial variant name to both skills listed so as to announce that it only works on that suit and not just the class.
SP Reset So if you skill to level 5 in Amarr Logi, then skill to level 1 in Caldari Logi, you only get 1HP/s rep rate? I'd understand if you only got 5 (maxed Logi skill), but only getting 1 sounds wrong based on the description. |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
66
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Posted - 2013.05.08 04:33:00 -
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im for it, |
Valentine Crendre
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
15
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Posted - 2013.05.08 04:35:00 -
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Ageed. CCP cannot expect the majority of players to crunch all these numbers for hours on the skill trees. Most did not account for the increase in SP sinks (which is fine, but if you weren't aware of them, you missed alot of other core skills that were necessary).
A certain number of people did not scour the forums, blogs, sites, etc. for all of these details. And neither should CCP have expected their players to do so. It was poor, on their part. Some sort of message IN THE GAME, explaining that your SP would not take you as far as it did before would have been ideal.
I'm more of a casual player, compared to other die-hards out there, and I was among those who got screwed during the respec, because I'm not in the loop like them.
Call us foolish or whatever makes you feel like you're smarter - This CCPs call to make and that is why there's the forums and petitions.
A new respec is definitely needed. |
Lightning xVx
G I A N T EoN.
54
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Posted - 2013.05.08 04:40:00 -
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RESPEC please! Just skills! |
RydogV
Shadow Company HQ
112
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Posted - 2013.05.08 04:40:00 -
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A respec the day PC drops
Madness. No thank you.
Spent nearly 10 hours working my skill tree yesterday. Not a single Skill Point wasted. Good to go...thanks anyway. |
Summer-Wolf
Planetary Response Organisation
28
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Posted - 2013.05.08 04:43:00 -
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If CCP created skills that dont work properly and wasted days / weeks of gaming time from a player, the players should be allowed to respec instead of being at the will of CCP. Some of those players have actually been truly testing this for a long time and to be lied in their face is simply an insult to gamers.
Simply put, if CCP doesnt amend, they will lose their reputation. And a bunch of people will make sure of that. Its quite simple.
BLABLABLA it was announced before. Most of the player base doesnt check the forums. What about them and how they screwed up? Or how they got lied to through a "bug" that is 1 freaking week from full release?
Pffft. Thank you players for beta testing, but we went the complete opposite way and you get nothing for it aside screwing up and making it up to new players.
Im so getting banned eventually. |
Lordbraveheart1
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2013.05.08 04:44:00 -
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RydogV wrote:A respec the day PC drops Madness. No thank you. Spent nearly 10 hours working my skill tree yesterday. Not a single Skill Point wasted. Good to go...thanks anyway.
If you have not a single point wasted, then you obviously know what you want/did. You can simply put those points back where you had them.
Is the root of your concern the possibility of forgetting? |
Italian dude 93
Bloodwolves Battalion Alpha Wolf Pack
2
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Posted - 2013.05.08 04:51:00 -
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I think they should allow players to reset there skill points for 1 million risk if they want to. So that way the people who worked hard on their skills and like how they are don't have to do it all over again. The people that made mistakes can fix their skills with isk seems fair enough. There is a lot of things to skill into in this game and some items do not have militia versions to try out. |
undeadsoldier90
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
368
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Posted - 2013.05.08 05:03:00 -
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YES!!!! give me my sp back ill buy 365 days of passive akill boosters and quite untill CCP fixes this mess of a game. |
Jathniel
G I A N T EoN.
256
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Posted - 2013.05.08 05:39:00 -
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bumping. respec please. |
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