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jenza aranda
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1310
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:16:00 -
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To be clear, there probably will not be a respec on or before the 14th, however in a talk that we, the CPM had with the CCP devs today, they agreed that a number of skills need to be changed and tweeked. when this happens, CCP will most likely be offering a temporary optional respec. But this is because of skill changes, not because mistakes in SP investment where made. We dont want people getting used to the idea of SP refunding. |
Skittles McDuckett
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
19
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:18:00 -
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+1 for optional respec... My primary character is fine.... but my secondary... he is a tanker, and they had incorrect descriptions for the skills... |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens Orion Empire
19
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:19:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:To be clear, there probably will not be a respec on or before the 14th, however in a talk that we, the CPM had with the CCP devs today, they agreed that a number of skills need to be changed and tweeked. when this happens, CCP will most likely be offering a temporary optional respec. But this is because of skill changes, not because mistakes in SP investment where made. We dont want people getting used to the idea of SP refunding.
I don't care what label they put on it, as long as I get a skill respec just one not two not three one I am happy, even if I have to pay for it. Although if I do get one I won't use my SP until CCP stops touching skills. |
PsychoLogiKal PsyDrei
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
26
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:22:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:To be clear, there probably will not be a respec on or before the 14th, however in a talk that we, the CPM had with the CCP devs today, they agreed that a number of skills need to be changed and tweeked. when this happens, CCP will most likely be offering a temporary optional respec. But this is because of skill changes, not because mistakes in SP investment where made. We dont want people getting used to the idea of SP refunding.
and what about those who made NO MISTAKES in investing their hard earned SP only to find out the descriptions of the skills was not as advertised.
bait and switch, i bought and orange but was given an apple and was told no refunds i get what i paid for, when in all reality i didn't because i paid for a freaking orange not an apple. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens Orion Empire
19
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:24:00 -
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PsychoLogiKal PsyDrei wrote:jenza aranda wrote:To be clear, there probably will not be a respec on or before the 14th, however in a talk that we, the CPM had with the CCP devs today, they agreed that a number of skills need to be changed and tweeked. when this happens, CCP will most likely be offering a temporary optional respec. But this is because of skill changes, not because mistakes in SP investment where made. We dont want people getting used to the idea of SP refunding. and what about those who made NO MISTAKES in investing their hard earned SP only to find out the descriptions of the skills was not as advertised. bait and switch, i bought and orange but was given an apple and was told no refunds i get what i paid for, when in all reality i didn't because i paid for a freaking orange not an apple.
I never knew how comparable this game is to fruit.
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens Orion Empire
19
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:27:00 -
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I think there will be a skill respec.
1) Because a lot of people are complaining and begging for one. 2) Because it is the easiest way out of doing a major patch. |
jenza aranda
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1310
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:27:00 -
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PsychoLogiKal PsyDrei wrote:jenza aranda wrote:To be clear, there probably will not be a respec on or before the 14th, however in a talk that we, the CPM had with the CCP devs today, they agreed that a number of skills need to be changed and tweeked. when this happens, CCP will most likely be offering a temporary optional respec. But this is because of skill changes, not because mistakes in SP investment where made. We dont want people getting used to the idea of SP refunding. and what about those who made NO MISTAKES in investing their hard earned SP only to find out the descriptions of the skills was not as advertised. bait and switch, i bought and orange but was given an apple and was told no refunds i get what i paid for, when in all reality i didn't because i paid for a freaking orange not an apple.
i refer again, mistakes where made my ccp, things will change, a respec will happen. just probably not in time for may 14th |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
80
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:30:00 -
[248] - Quote
jenza aranda wrote:To be clear, there probably will not be a respec on or before the 14th, however in a talk that we, the CPM had with the CCP devs today, they agreed that a number of skills need to be changed and tweeked. when this happens, CCP will most likely be offering a temporary optional respec. But this is because of skill changes, not because mistakes in SP investment where made. We dont want people getting used to the idea of SP refunding.
My skills are well placed. I just don't see any negative impact on the game for having another respect. Good to hear tho. but lass WHAT ARE YOUR VIEWS ON RESPEC? just curious. I'm also curious to know what are the other CPM views on it.
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S0LlD SNAKE
PLAYSTATION4
44
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:30:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:PsychoLogiKal PsyDrei wrote:jenza aranda wrote:To be clear, there probably will not be a respec on or before the 14th, however in a talk that we, the CPM had with the CCP devs today, they agreed that a number of skills need to be changed and tweeked. when this happens, CCP will most likely be offering a temporary optional respec. But this is because of skill changes, not because mistakes in SP investment where made. We dont want people getting used to the idea of SP refunding. and what about those who made NO MISTAKES in investing their hard earned SP only to find out the descriptions of the skills was not as advertised. bait and switch, i bought and orange but was given an apple and was told no refunds i get what i paid for, when in all reality i didn't because i paid for a freaking orange not an apple. i refer again, mistakes where made my ccp, things will change, a respec will happen. just probably not in time for may 14th
it should happen while its still a BETA ,wont make any sense after
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Phoenix Arakyd
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
55
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:31:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:To be clear, there probably will not be a respec on or before the 14th, however in a talk that we, the CPM had with the CCP devs today, they agreed that a number of skills need to be changed and tweeked. when this happens, CCP will most likely be offering a temporary optional respec. But this is because of skill changes, not because mistakes in SP investment where made. We dont want people getting used to the idea of SP refunding.
They should only allow it on the skills with incorrect descriptions. 100% against refunding for FOTM kids who run to OP **** and cry once it gets nerfed/balanced. |
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens Orion Empire
19
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:33:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:PsychoLogiKal PsyDrei wrote:jenza aranda wrote:To be clear, there probably will not be a respec on or before the 14th, however in a talk that we, the CPM had with the CCP devs today, they agreed that a number of skills need to be changed and tweeked. when this happens, CCP will most likely be offering a temporary optional respec. But this is because of skill changes, not because mistakes in SP investment where made. We dont want people getting used to the idea of SP refunding. and what about those who made NO MISTAKES in investing their hard earned SP only to find out the descriptions of the skills was not as advertised. bait and switch, i bought and orange but was given an apple and was told no refunds i get what i paid for, when in all reality i didn't because i paid for a freaking orange not an apple. i refer again, mistakes where made my ccp, things will change, a respec will happen. just probably not in time for may 14th
It should be by the 14th thats the most logical time, start every one off on equal footing. Those of us who messed up our classes will think twice of were we put our skills and probably run in militia for a couple of weeks, I know I will. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens Orion Empire
19
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:34:00 -
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Phoenix Arakyd wrote:jenza aranda wrote:To be clear, there probably will not be a respec on or before the 14th, however in a talk that we, the CPM had with the CCP devs today, they agreed that a number of skills need to be changed and tweeked. when this happens, CCP will most likely be offering a temporary optional respec. But this is because of skill changes, not because mistakes in SP investment where made. We dont want people getting used to the idea of SP refunding. They should only allow it on the skills with incorrect descriptions. 100% against refunding for FOTM kids who run to OP **** and cry once it gets nerfed/balanced.
What about logi suits running around with more Shield/HP than heavy and the Speed and Power of a assault. If that's not OP, then I don't know what is. |
IRON PATRIOT 1
Universal Allies Inc.
5
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:39:00 -
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Phoenix Arakyd wrote:jenza aranda wrote:To be clear, there probably will not be a respec on or before the 14th, however in a talk that we, the CPM had with the CCP devs today, they agreed that a number of skills need to be changed and tweeked. when this happens, CCP will most likely be offering a temporary optional respec. But this is because of skill changes, not because mistakes in SP investment where made. We dont want people getting used to the idea of SP refunding. They should only allow it on the skills with incorrect descriptions. 100% against refunding for FOTM kids who run to OP **** and cry once it gets nerfed/balanced.
Didn't you make a thread to complain on? I think your just scared you will get some competition if there is one. |
Draykaden
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:39:00 -
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I'll add my name to the vote, I don't see any harm in an optional SP respec for the official launch. |
stormtroopin
Cygnus Tactical Operations
64
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:41:00 -
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Draykaden wrote:I'll add my name to the vote, I don't see any harm in an optional SP respec for the official launch. +Juan |
Phoenix Arakyd
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
55
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:42:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Phoenix Arakyd wrote:jenza aranda wrote:To be clear, there probably will not be a respec on or before the 14th, however in a talk that we, the CPM had with the CCP devs today, they agreed that a number of skills need to be changed and tweeked. when this happens, CCP will most likely be offering a temporary optional respec. But this is because of skill changes, not because mistakes in SP investment where made. We dont want people getting used to the idea of SP refunding. They should only allow it on the skills with incorrect descriptions. 100% against refunding for FOTM kids who run to OP **** and cry once it gets nerfed/balanced. What about logi suits running around with more Shield/HP than heavy and the Speed and Power of a assault. If that's not OP, then I don't know what is.
Of course it is, itll get nerfed, and then they should be stuck with that suit. |
Phoenix Arakyd
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
55
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:43:00 -
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IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote:Phoenix Arakyd wrote:jenza aranda wrote:To be clear, there probably will not be a respec on or before the 14th, however in a talk that we, the CPM had with the CCP devs today, they agreed that a number of skills need to be changed and tweeked. when this happens, CCP will most likely be offering a temporary optional respec. But this is because of skill changes, not because mistakes in SP investment where made. We dont want people getting used to the idea of SP refunding. They should only allow it on the skills with incorrect descriptions. 100% against refunding for FOTM kids who run to OP **** and cry once it gets nerfed/balanced. Didn't you make a thread to complain on? I think your just scared you will get some competition if there is one.
I think you're scared you OP fit is gonna get nerfed. |
Lazy Bass
The Generals EoN.
4
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:43:00 -
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Yea I agree for respec round two, let the people who made mistakes or was mislead have another roll of the dice. Those of you who are super awesome and don't make mistakes it shouldn't matter to you that much just a few minutes of your time so people who have spent months afk farming/playing for SP can sort themselves out cause I for one want this game to live and don't want to see people leave over something as trivial as this. |
Phoenix Arakyd
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
55
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:45:00 -
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Lazy Bass wrote:Yea I agree for respec round two, let the people who made mistakes or was mislead have another roll of the dice. Those of you who are super awesome and don't make mistakes it shouldn't matter to you that much just a few minutes of your time so people who have spent months afk farming/playing for SP can sort themselves out cause I for one want this game to live and don't want to see people leave over something as trivial as this.
Yes, our OP suits got nerfed, now we can beg for a respec like mana from heaven everytime it gets nerfed/balanced. |
Lavirac JR
DUST University Ivy League
135
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:46:00 -
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1- Glad I did not respec my Characters yet (Waiting for the 14th).
2-Vehicle users DEFINATELY deserve a complete respec, the stealth nerf of Vehicle Engineering and Electronics skills + them being mislabeled should give these guys a chance to respec out of vehicles completely if they want to.
Was thinking of respecing one of my Characters vehicle wise, but definitely not with Engineering and Electronics the way it is meant to be. |
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens Orion Empire
20
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:48:00 -
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Phoenix Arakyd wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Phoenix Arakyd wrote:jenza aranda wrote:To be clear, there probably will not be a respec on or before the 14th, however in a talk that we, the CPM had with the CCP devs today, they agreed that a number of skills need to be changed and tweeked. when this happens, CCP will most likely be offering a temporary optional respec. But this is because of skill changes, not because mistakes in SP investment where made. We dont want people getting used to the idea of SP refunding. They should only allow it on the skills with incorrect descriptions. 100% against refunding for FOTM kids who run to OP **** and cry once it gets nerfed/balanced. What about logi suits running around with more Shield/HP than heavy and the Speed and Power of a assault. If that's not OP, then I don't know what is. Of course it is, itll get nerfed, and then they should be stuck with that suit.
Yea but that's unfair in a way, because then they will just be the ones left begging. Just roll out a balancing patch on May 14 and a final respect with COMPLETE PATCH NOTES!!!!!!!!!! |
Phoenix Arakyd
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
55
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:56:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Phoenix Arakyd wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Phoenix Arakyd wrote:jenza aranda wrote:To be clear, there probably will not be a respec on or before the 14th, however in a talk that we, the CPM had with the CCP devs today, they agreed that a number of skills need to be changed and tweeked. when this happens, CCP will most likely be offering a temporary optional respec. But this is because of skill changes, not because mistakes in SP investment where made. We dont want people getting used to the idea of SP refunding. They should only allow it on the skills with incorrect descriptions. 100% against refunding for FOTM kids who run to OP **** and cry once it gets nerfed/balanced. What about logi suits running around with more Shield/HP than heavy and the Speed and Power of a assault. If that's not OP, then I don't know what is. Of course it is, itll get nerfed, and then they should be stuck with that suit. Yea but that's unfair in a way, because then they will just be the ones left begging. Just roll out a balancing patch on May 14 and a final respect with COMPLETE PATCH NOTES!!!!!!!!!!
No, because something else will be perceived as OP, skilled into, and then they will beg for another respec. Again and again. Ad infinitum. No SP respec or refund for that skill unless it has the wrong description. If you skill into something to take advantage of its OP'dness, and it gets a balance pass, too bad. |
NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
262
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:57:00 -
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Well, since we now know a respec will probably happen eventually, people should try skills that they wouldn't have otherwise and make sure they work as described.
For instance, in this thread we tested to see if role/class bonuses stacked https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=74862&p=3 Sadly they do not, but that was a 2 mill SP investment just to test CCP's wording. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens Orion Empire
20
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Posted - 2013.05.09 17:01:00 -
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Not if everything is properly balanced. And most people can agree that there is a balance. Most people agree there should be a respec, it obviously shows that at the current moment there is something faulty with the game. |
Phoenix Arakyd
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
55
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Posted - 2013.05.09 17:03:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Not if everything is properly balanced. And most people can agree that there is a balance. Most people agree there should be a respec, it obviously shows that at the current moment there is something faulty with the game.
Kids just wanna undo their mistakes. The answer should be a huge NO, but I fear CCP will continue to cater to those who cannot help themselves. |
Lazy Bass
The Generals EoN.
4
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Posted - 2013.05.09 17:05:00 -
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Phoenix Arakyd wrote:Lazy Bass wrote:Yea I agree for respec round two, let the people who made mistakes or was mislead have another roll of the dice. Those of you who are super awesome and don't make mistakes it shouldn't matter to you that much just a few minutes of your time so people who have spent months afk farming/playing for SP can sort themselves out cause I for one want this game to live and don't want to see people leave over something as trivial as this. Yes, our OP suits got nerfed, now we can beg for a respec like mana from heaven everytime it gets nerfed/balanced.
I'll stay in the same suit doesn't matter to me just want people who had a rough time to get another bash at it doesn't matter anyhow looks like its gonna happen . |
Dregarian
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1
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Posted - 2013.05.09 17:05:00 -
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Phoenix Arakyd wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Not if everything is properly balanced. And most people can agree that there is a balance. Most people agree there should be a respec, it obviously shows that at the current moment there is something faulty with the game. Kids just wanna undo their mistakes. The answer should be a huge NO, but I fear CCP will continue to cater to those who cannot help themselves.
Agreed, you can't teach stupid.
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
80
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Posted - 2013.05.09 17:08:00 -
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Phoenix Arakyd wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Not if everything is properly balanced. And most people can agree that there is a balance. Most people agree there should be a respec, it obviously shows that at the current moment there is something faulty with the game. Kids just wanna undo their mistakes. The answer should be a huge NO, but I fear CCP will continue to cater to those who cannot help themselves.
Dude, I made no MISTAKES. But the more you bash against it the it comes off like your worried. Your worried? Let them repec. It won't effect me. BRING ME THE POWER OF A THOUSAND SUNS!! IT WILL DO NO AGAINST ME!
HEH.. I'M WHAT GOD WISHES HE COULD BE. *Ladies clap* |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens Orion Empire
20
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Posted - 2013.05.09 17:08:00 -
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Phoenix Arakyd wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Not if everything is properly balanced. And most people can agree that there is a balance. Most people agree there should be a respec, it obviously shows that at the current moment there is something faulty with the game. Kids just wanna undo their mistakes. The answer should be a huge NO, but I fear CCP will continue to cater to those who cannot help themselves.
So it is my mistake that CCP did not properly inform players of skill changes? |
Xender17
Oblivion S.G.X
58
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Posted - 2013.05.09 17:13:00 -
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I want a refund on my skills that disappeared after the small update this morning... All my vehicle command skills were reset. and I didn't get my SP back. |
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