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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2784
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Posted - 2013.05.08 06:02:00 -
[61] - Quote
RydogV wrote:A respec the day PC drops  Madness. No thank you. Spent nearly 10 hours working my skill tree yesterday. Not a single Skill Point wasted. Good to go...thanks anyway.
So you have your plan noted down somewhere, and can respec correctly at a moment's notice then?
So a respec shouldn't affect you?
Good to know you approve of the idea.
Oh, you said no? How does that work? "I got what I wanted, so who cares if some players' skills aren't being applied correctly and they were forced to skill into things before finding out that "actually, the skill description doesn't match the effect"  |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
680
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Posted - 2013.05.08 06:14:00 -
[62] - Quote
I support this thread and the demand for another Respec on the 14th. And no I didn't screw up my skills, I have my build skilled perfectly by the planning and research I did before hand.
CCP has to remember not everyone visits these forums, not everyone knows what's going on inside the "loop", not everyone is a hardcore gamer. An additional respect can not hurt this game in anyway. It can only help it by allowing players to learn from their mistakes just 1 last time on commercial release. Hence bringing more well suited mercs on the battlefield.
The new weapons, Planetary Conquest and the official commercial release are more than enough valid reasons alone to call for an additional respec. May 6th -13th is considered a trial and error test week before launch. Just do it CCP your playerbase wants it, so please deliver. |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
175
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Posted - 2013.05.08 06:14:00 -
[63] - Quote
BobThe843CakeMan wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=73748&find=unread it's because of this.
This^^^ |
Higgs flagrantfool
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
64
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Posted - 2013.05.08 06:56:00 -
[64] - Quote
This is a very important issue and I would like to see more of the player community voice their there concerns in this thread. |
skinn trayde
On The Brink
CRONOS.
113
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:01:00 -
[65] - Quote
I have already said this elsewhere, but...
There are many ways that this can go,
1. Everyone gets to respec again on the 14th, all stuff is refunded AGAIN.
2. Everyone gets to respec again, but this time you have to keep what you have and deal with it.
3. Optional respec, and all stuff is refunded again.
4. Optional respec, keeping your current assets.
5. Nobody gets to respec and if you shovelled your points into things then tough.
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1. nobody really loses out, but you can guarantee whining.
2. only losses are to spent ISK/AUR
3 + 4. would cause QQ from some and joy from others.
5. QQ from some, HTFUs from others...
you can see how this goes...
Whatever happens, CCP do need to think about it hard and quickly, then respond to the concerns of all players.
This has been a major update to the game and many have either made rash decisions, drunken choices, and or misinformed selections... We are all in this for the long haul (although some are only in it until the next Battlefied of Duty), and we will all have to live or die by both our and CCPs decisions.
I am one of those who would possibly benefit from a respec, however, whatever decision is made by CCP will affect us all.
just my 0.02 isk |
Ninjanomyx
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
57
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:29:00 -
[66] - Quote
Signed
Reason among others: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=72152&p=8 |
Gigatron Prime
New Eden's Most Wanted
Gentlemen's Agreement
7
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:30:00 -
[67] - Quote
signature signed |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
The Southern Legion
RISE of LEGION
3
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Posted - 2013.05.08 08:02:00 -
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If I *knew* there was a respec coming, I'd agree with it, and dump my existing SP yesterday so I could play around with stuff and how things work in the new build.
But I'm holding off on spending *any* SP based on the idea that I get no 2nd chances, and I want to figure stuff out first. That plus new content and potential for balance tweaks before and on the 14th.
So I will be a bit miffed if there is another respec or reset, because it will mean I didn't get to try things out when I could have done, and others did. That will put me at a disadvantage.
There's only two things can happen fair to me here:
1. no respec
2. a respec, but the fact this will happen is announced *today*
If #2, I get to dump my SP today and fully play with the build.
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The Loathing
The Southern Legion
RISE of LEGION
46
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Posted - 2013.05.08 08:16:00 -
[69] - Quote
I don't want a respec. I would just like them to fix what I spec-ed into. :) |
S0LlD SNAKE
PLAYSTATION4
30
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Posted - 2013.05.08 08:17:00 -
[70] - Quote
Adapt or Die |
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Wile-E Coyote
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.05.08 08:17:00 -
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come on respec |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
175
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Posted - 2013.05.08 08:32:00 -
[72] - Quote
The Loathing wrote:I don't want a respec. I would just like them to fix what I spec-ed into. :)
Well if you speced into tanks (like I did) then the "fixes" you speak of may change the skills as they were advertised when anyone may have speced into them (like me) forcing a respec to be the only option for those who speced tanks and are now unsatisfied with how they will perform and where unwittingly mislead due entirely to the fault of CCP alone (also like me). |
The Loathing
The Southern Legion
RISE of LEGION
47
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Posted - 2013.05.08 08:35:00 -
[73] - Quote
Ignoble Son wrote:The Loathing wrote:I don't want a respec. I would just like them to fix what I spec-ed into. :) Well if you speced into tanks (like I did) then the "fixes" you speak of may change the skills as they were advertised when anyone may have speced into them (like me) forcing a respec to be the only option for those who speced tanks and are now unsatisfied with how they will perform and where unwittingly mislead due entirely to the fault of CCP alone (also like me).
Well then..........I guess you ask for a respec then. :) |
Your Absolut End
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
41
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Posted - 2013.05.08 08:47:00 -
[74] - Quote
First oft all ccp needs to balance some things, with the tar as it is right now they game is very unbalanced. And before we don't have a balance in this game its hard to decide where to skill in. |
flesth
Red Star.
EoN.
14
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Posted - 2013.05.08 08:48:00 -
[75] - Quote
skinn trayde wrote:I have already said this elsewhere, but...
There are many ways that this can go,
1. Everyone gets to respec again on the 14th, all stuff is refunded AGAIN.
2. Everyone gets to respec again, but this time you have to keep what you have and deal with it.
3. Optional respec, and all stuff is refunded again.
4. Optional respec, keeping your current assets.
5. Nobody gets to respec and if you shovelled your points into things then tough.
- -
1. nobody really loses out, but you can guarantee whining.
2. only losses are to spent ISK/AUR
3 + 4. would cause QQ from some and joy from others.
5. QQ from some, HTFUs from others...
you can see how this goes...
Whatever happens, CCP do need to think about it hard and quickly, then respond to the concerns of all players.
This has been a major update to the game and many have either made rash decisions, drunken choices, and or misinformed selections... We are all in this for the long haul (although some are only in it until the next Battlefied of Duty), and we will all have to live or die by both our and CCPs decisions.
I am one of those who would possibly benefit from a respec, however, whatever decision is made by CCP will affect us all.
just my 0.02 isk
spot on
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Kekklian Noobatronic
Goonfeet
2
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Posted - 2013.05.08 08:50:00 -
[76] - Quote
/Signed for community(and the two alts I sacrificed to get my main skilled correctly), and for all the people who specced into gear that turned out to be rubbish :(
For those who hadent noticed, Militia gear and entry-level gear tends to perform very poorly compared to advanced and protogear. Sometimes you have to spec up a tree to find out how something is. With the sweeping changes, what may have been a safe bet before could be a complete burn now, and there was no way of knowing without going up the tree.
Want to get another proto weapon? Better buy 2 weeks worth of boosters then, or it's going to be a long time before you see it. Your "Adapt or Die" motto should really be "Shell out cash or grind", because that's what you're going to be doing. It's not a friendly(or even accurate) sentiment. |
Cantankerous Curmudgeon
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.05.08 09:02:00 -
[77] - Quote
+1 Yes please for a re-re-spec |
mystus no1
Industrie und Handels Konsortium
Tribunal Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.05.08 09:39:00 -
[78] - Quote
an re-spec option would be nice  |
DeeJay One
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
26
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Posted - 2013.05.08 09:45:00 -
[79] - Quote
6. Give a one time respec, specifically state that it's the final one, whatever you skill in is done. But fix the things people complain about and want to switch away from them. Don't say their fixed/unnerfed just the get the tears again on the forums, then say it was stated "no more respec" ;) |
DeeJay One
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
26
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Posted - 2013.05.08 09:46:00 -
[80] - Quote
Kekklian Noobatronic wrote:
Want to get another proto weapon? Better buy 2 weeks worth of boosters then, or it's going to be a long time before you see it. Your "Adapt or Die" motto should really be "Shell out cash or grind", because that's what you're going to be doing. It's not a friendly(or even accurate) sentiment.
But this will happen every time a new weapon or skill is added, you want to always respec your skills to the current OP weapon?
Persistence is hard, deal with it.
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
Orion Empire
6
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Posted - 2013.05.08 10:20:00 -
[81] - Quote
Yes I would love a respec because when I was rebuilding my character I had my old build in mind. A lot of my previous skills had their effects removed or changed (Like weaponry) so it was a huge waste, also I didn't understand the racial bonuses and specced into the suit for my race even though that would not apply a bonus, another huge waste.
If there is no respec I will just wait it out until I passively get the SP. |
D'Finn Rhedlyne
Planetary Response Organization
275
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Posted - 2013.05.08 10:42:00 -
[82] - Quote
I agree with a respec for the 14th. I had 9+ million SP, used the new UI to spec my dropsuits and had no on screen representation of the multiplier cost.... bam! over 7 million SP gone! Today I respeced my nephews character with only 3+ million SP and now he has a far superior character than mine! C'mon CCP, PLEASE let us respec once more on full release. |
Liquid Fox88
ROGUE SPADES
EoN.
5
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Posted - 2013.05.08 11:41:00 -
[83] - Quote
Personally, I like where I placed my skill points, however, I wouldn't mind another respec for those who screwed up. It should be like a last "gift" to the players for full release. The whole idea that "you have to live with your screw ups" would hold more weight if we were already officially in full release. If everyone would have held onto their SP till the 14th, we would have gotten the same results. Nothing in the new build would have been tested until the 14th, which would have only made people more anger, due to the fact that the game is still has a lot of broken areas and can't hide under the "beta" label. I enjoy the game, but that's only because I tried a lot of stuff out yesterday with my alt (8mil sp) before committing with my main. I understand, not everyone has that luxury, so one more sp respec would probably be beneficial to both the players (happiness) and ccp (financially). |
SoLJae
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
376
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Posted - 2013.05.08 11:53:00 -
[84] - Quote
CCP has a lot of bugs/glitches in Uprising.
The players were confused and made a lot of mistakes with their mountains of SP when Uprising began, too
Therefor, I believe a respec when the game officially launches on the 14th would be the right thing to do for all the players and CCP. Today, we are still in Beta. Both the players and CCP should be allowed to straighten out their mistakes and start again fresh on the 14th.
I think we all learned our lesson ;-) |
H4lfdog
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
21
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:04:00 -
[85] - Quote
The Limbus dosen't work, and the skills do other stuff that the are saying. Respec please! |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
1411
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:05:00 -
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BobThe843CakeMan wrote:I demand we have a respec for all these false skill labels. and yes i have filed 1.
False skill labels? Could you clarify that, please?
Did you actually hit Triangle to read the description of each skill before putting points into it? |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
480
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:06:00 -
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I really should have looked at the forums before my topic which is basically the same as this sort of
But yea ive been mislead down the vehicle road and now i need to think about what i really should be doing instead or where i can save SP and still do vehicles |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
480
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:07:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:BobThe843CakeMan wrote:I demand we have a respec for all these false skill labels. and yes i have filed 1. False skill labels? Could you clarify that, please? Did you actually hit Triangle to read the description of each skill before putting points into it?
******
In the vehicle skill tree we have been lied to about what the skills really do and its lead to wasting SP which we wouldnt have wasted if we knew what the skill actually did
Go biomass yourself |
SoLJae
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
377
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:10:00 -
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We are being patient and allowing CCP to fix their mistakes in the game before launch. It would be nice if they would allow the players to do the same with their SP mistakes as well.
Game launches out of Beta on the 14th.
Just seems rational for another respec. It won't hurt anyone and will please many dedicated players who have supported the game from the beginning.
win/win |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
Orion Empire
7
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:22:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:BobThe843CakeMan wrote:I demand we have a respec for all these false skill labels. and yes i have filed 1. False skill labels? Could you clarify that, please? Did you actually hit Triangle to read the description of each skill before putting points into it?
I know I didn't I assumed most skills were unchanged so I rebuilt my old character. |
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