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Lightning xVx
G I A N T EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:45:00 -
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Bump |
AntanTheBeast
Foxhound Corporation
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:49:00 -
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Jaqen Morghalis wrote:AntanTheBeast wrote:Deal with it. You guys should of used your skill points wisely and not blow them away so quickly! Just to be clear, I'm not in favour of a respec because I've screwed up my SP allocation, or because I've neglected to read the descriptions of the skills. I'm in favour of an OPTIONAL respec at launch because a BETA is for testing, not for gaining a head-start, and I don't feel that a player should be punished for using their time during the BETA to actually TEST the product. Post-launch, all decisions should be final, I couldn't agree more but, prior to launch, it is still just a BETA. True I agree. I think they should give you an option for people who have invested their skills correctly that don't want the skill respec and people who still who want the skill respec so they can start fresh. |
Z3R0 GR4VITY
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
206
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:49:00 -
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I don't personally need this, but I know many who have screwed up when it came to their sp investment. Another respec option is needed, after that no more. |
jamstar saa187
Imperial Populicide Legion Alpha Wolf Pack
6
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:57:00 -
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i endorse this petition. i too would like a respec. |
Stands Alone
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:10:00 -
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everyone make a thread with title of RESPEC ON 14TH... that will be the petition since we cant shoot at monuments or Jita. |
PsychoLogiKal PsyDrei
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
21
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:31:00 -
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So I got to thinking, didn't CCP say that this wasn't going to turn into a "Pay to Win" game?
Well in the case of armor tanks at least, it is.
My reasoning behind this is that they are now stating that the skill we all invested into as armor tankers to get our PG to where it needs to be is being stealth nerfed into a totally different skill that does not give PG but just reduces CPU usage of the PG modules that take up slots for our hardners and armor plates.
Well the CreoDron Breach HAV has more than enough PG to create a PRE-Uprising armor tank build, I remember when I had some left in my inventory that without any PG mods i could get everything i needed to make a 9k HP tank outfitted with proto cannon and all the hardners my heart could desire with almost 1k PG to spare.
So as I just experienced in a Skirmish, a well fit *with whats available to a armor tanker now* cannot go head to head with a well fit CreoDron Breach HAV. Its just not possible because it does just as much damage as you do but has literally TWICE the armor that your tank does so you just can't win.
So unless they make the "Vehicle Engineering" skill do what it SAYS that it should do and has always done, OR they TOTALLY remove the CreoDron Breach HAV from the game *which wouldn't be fair to people who paid money for them* they have turned this game into a "Pay to Win" game, at least from the standpoint of an armor tanker.
Surprised with all the armor tankers that are pissed about the skill not working like its supposed to and CCP saying that it is working as intended and the description is just wrong that I am the first to bring up this point.
Ohhh almost forgot, Bump for tankers. |
Vethosis
Universal Allies Inc.
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:39:00 -
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- Vethosis |
BelleMorte MORTIMOR
Betaguards
2
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:40:00 -
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General Grodd wrote:Dear CCP, -á-á -á -á-á -á I would like a skill respec on the 14th of May. I wasn't aware of certain skills nor that i invested in skills unrelated to what i wanted to unlock. Some skills were more costly than I had expected too. Also, it would be helpful considering there are new items (mainly weapons) coming the 14th.-á
Sincerely, General Grodd
If anyone else would like to have a respec the 14th, comment below and like.
EDIT: We would also have a better idea of what we like to use/what's more effective. since it would be a week after this past update.
+1
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RedBleach LeSanglant
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
174
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Posted - 2013.05.08 23:07:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:RedBleach LeSanglant wrote:There is so much to test. I to bungled some skill points in testing as the skills were not clear on how they interacted for my logibro crew. I would like a reset as well now knowing what was not posted at the time, how some skills are broken and how others do not act as they should.
One example, as some of you may know, now that investing in different special suits that say "logistics suit bonus: etc." do not stack for every logistics suit. It is not specified that it will only work for that suit because beneath that is another statements saying the racial variant bonus of the suit. Yet the skill only applies to that suit type. That was not listed, it needed to be tested.
Allowing the skilling to stack would have been op - but it needed to be verified and now we can recommend that the writing clarify such statements like adding the racial variant name to both skills listed so as to announce that it only works on that suit and not just the class.
SP Reset So if you skill to level 5 in Amarr Logi, then skill to level 1 in Caldari Logi, you only get 1HP/s rep rate? I'd understand if you only got 5 (maxed Logi skill), but only getting 1 sounds wrong based on the description.
yes, only 1/hps if you wear the caldari suit. So yes, the explanations are flawed, leading to misguided skilling. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.09 00:59:00 -
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wabump |
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Jaqen Morghalis
Abandoned Privilege
15
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Posted - 2013.05.09 01:20:00 -
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I think it's obvious that, despite the official launch being less than a week away, this game is still very much a work in progress.
Until CCP can decide upon final, permanent core mechanics for this game, why should we, as players, be forced to live with and abide by choices and decisions based upon those mechanics? |
Don Know
Me My Alts And I
12
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Posted - 2013.05.09 02:03:00 -
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+1 (would be helpful to people that need it) |
General Grodd
Ahrendee Mercenaries
151
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Posted - 2013.05.09 02:29:00 -
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Bump. Also, I'm both a shield and armor tanker. at least was an armor tanker I didnt get my skills around to it. And my shield tank with a large -áproto blaster fit a darn good amount more than my current tank. And Im using a large proto missile, that uses maybe 200-300 less PG than that of a blaster. It's just not right. |
Don Von Hulio
Not Guilty EoN.
253
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Posted - 2013.05.09 02:33:00 -
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CCP has always refunded SP when they make large changes to skills.
Unfortunately (for those who didnt pay attention), another drastic change to skills wont happen for a long time.... so you all will just have to sleep in the bed you made.
If you are asking for another respec.... you are bad, and you should feel bad. |
Lightning xVx
G I A N T EoN.
63
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Posted - 2013.05.09 02:35:00 -
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It's pretty obvious how many threads are going on about this (3-4) at once. It needs to be addressed if that many people are complaining about it. |
Don Von Hulio
Not Guilty EoN.
253
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Posted - 2013.05.09 02:41:00 -
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Lightning xVx wrote:It's pretty obvious how many threads are going on about this (3-4) at once. It needs to be addressed if that many people are complaining about it.
What? Maybe for noobs who have like 2mil SP total.... but not for veterans with more than 2mil SP.
We knew changes were coming, we know how to view details of items/skills, we know to plan ahead... So if you blew your SP, then you should be SOL. |
Jaqen Morghalis
Abandoned Privilege
19
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Posted - 2013.05.09 02:44:00 -
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Lightning xVx wrote:It's pretty obvious how many threads are going on about this (3-4) at once. It needs to be addressed if that many people are complaining about it.
Agreed. There seems to be enough support in favor that CCP should at least consider it. |
Lightning xVx
G I A N T EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.09 02:46:00 -
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Don Von Hulio wrote:Lightning xVx wrote:It's pretty obvious how many threads are going on about this (3-4) at once. It needs to be addressed if that many people are complaining about it. What? Maybe for noobs who have like 2mil SP total.... but not for veterans with more than 2mil SP. We knew changes were coming, we know how to view details of items/skills, we know to plan ahead... So if you blew your SP, then you should be SOL.
Well glad Im not "SOL" then, I just would want another one because I don't like the suit I picked. I can still run it very well but its boring and slow. |
Jaqen Morghalis
Abandoned Privilege
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Posted - 2013.05.09 02:50:00 -
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Don Von Hulio wrote:Lightning xVx wrote:It's pretty obvious how many threads are going on about this (3-4) at once. It needs to be addressed if that many people are complaining about it. What? Maybe for noobs who have like 2mil SP total.... but not for veterans with more than 2mil SP. We knew changes were coming, we know how to view details of items/skills, we know to plan ahead... So if you blew your SP, then you should be SOL.
"Too bad" just doesn't seem like a very valid reason not to, IMO.
Make it an optional respec.
The vets won't have to waste their precious time re-alloting their millions if they don't want to, and those noobs who do won't affect you at all. |
Commander Dizzle
Closed For Business
1
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Posted - 2013.05.09 03:03:00 -
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Anyone who is wondering on the RE RESPEC... this is the answer you will get from CCP:
Hello,
Thanks for your email.
We are unfortunately unable to provide any further re-spec to any character further to the one provided to you upon the release of the Uprising build which is the final re-spec prior to the game being released later this month.
As we are not offering any further re-spec, any skill point spent is unfortunately permanently attributed to the chosen skill however progress in DUST 514 is never wasted and you can still skill up the required attributes by accumulating more SP during Battles.
I would also like to bring to your attention, should you have purchased any AURUM/Merc Packs before January 22nd, we will be offering players a full reimbursement of such assets (Optional) for you to spend once more which will trigger a full account reset (ie. All SP/ISK/Assets will be deleted should you opt in) and more information about this option will be provided to players in the coming days.
I can certainly understand this can be a bit of an inconvenience and I can only apologise again for not being able to provide you with a suitable solution to your problem.
If you have any further issues or questions, please do not hesitate to contact us again. |
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NOT slap26
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.09 03:06:00 -
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signed for respec |
Aoena Rays
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.05.09 03:07:00 -
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Sure, I want them to make you pau $5 for it. And then it stacks every time you want another one. $5, $10, $20, $40, $80, $160. |
NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
251
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Posted - 2013.05.09 03:16:00 -
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Commander Dizzle wrote:Anyone who is wondering on the RE RESPEC... this is the answer you will get from CCP:
Hello,
Thanks for your email.
We are unfortunately unable to provide any further re-spec to any character further to the one provided to you upon the release of the Uprising build which is the final re-spec prior to the game being released later this month.
As we are not offering any further re-spec, any skill point spent is unfortunately permanently attributed to the chosen skill however progress in DUST 514 is never wasted and you can still skill up the required attributes by accumulating more SP during Battles.
I would also like to bring to your attention, should you have purchased any AURUM/Merc Packs before January 22nd, we will be offering players a full reimbursement of such assets (Optional) for you to spend once more which will trigger a full account reset (ie. All SP/ISK/Assets will be deleted should you opt in) and more information about this option will be provided to players in the coming days.
I can certainly understand this can be a bit of an inconvenience and I can only apologise again for not being able to provide you with a suitable solution to your problem.
If you have any further issues or questions, please do not hesitate to contact us again. Fraq it. YOLO! |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
74
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Posted - 2013.05.09 03:23:00 -
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I'm for it. sign me up. what ever helps it be a FPSMMO and NOT a MMOFPS. |
CASHERN X2
DIOS EX.
3
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Posted - 2013.05.09 03:25:00 -
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Signed and Bump for a good cause. |
Oswald Rehnquist
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.09 03:34:00 -
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There are those who think then act, then there are those who act then cry.
I would only co-sign on a respect if you guys are willing to
1) Pay $20 for it 2) Get only half of your SP to respect
I don't expect thumbs of approval, in the slightest, the culture of the game is suppose to be hard core, hence the average age is older than most video game populations. This is what attracted me to this game, to Eve, to dark souls, etc, which was how unforgiving it was. To detract and soften the game because micro details were not read is a direct front on the base culture. When scanners first came out, they simply didn't work, I was one of the testers in that area, and went all the way to lvl 5 to discover they simply didn't work on any lvl, we just adapted to the loss and keep going.
In Uprising, where all dates and everything was stated before hand, I never understood these calls for a respect , I have left myself 1500 in skill points, denying myself in present gains and power to see the new additions to then do a little R&R that would benefit me in the long term, but the short sighted hedons couldn't hold off and like a drunken Betty, pissed it all away. Which is fine in and of itself, but the childish demand to clear your debt is what is irksome. |
Mr Zitro
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
558
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Posted - 2013.05.09 03:51:00 -
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Signed I want to be a heavy and scout |
Lightning xVx
G I A N T EoN.
63
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Posted - 2013.05.09 03:51:00 -
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Ok, this is the most SIMPLE solution to this problem, since DUST 514 has not released yet (May. 14, 2013) and a whole bunch of new content has just come out why not have this time too test out all the new stuff this week and by full release just do ONE FINAL RESPEC and keep it as is. No smoke and mirrors, no pay to win crap, its straight to the point, you keep everything you spec'd into and that's final no more whining/complaining/arguing over it. Please be mature about this as I'm sure CCP is try to accommodate towards everyone. |
Lightning xVx
G I A N T EoN.
63
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Posted - 2013.05.09 04:36:00 -
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Super mega ultra bump |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
540
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Posted - 2013.05.09 04:37:00 -
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Damn... You sir are great at like farming lol |
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