Mwaaha-ha-ha-ha! We is gunna segregates yoo! LOL!

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[FEEDBACK] Controller and Kb/m gap - balancing the two control schemes.
Update: The dev team will compare turn speeds with kbm and controllers for both infantry and vehicles to see if there are inconsistancies. We are also planning to introduce Matchmaking improvemtns that will take controller input into account.

oh is this the excuse you ppl use when u get pwnd by controller- he was auto aiming? LMAO

I gotta say, I think y'all might be overreacting.

There are some advantages to keyboard mouse. One when in vehicles you maintain more speed while turning. Two the sensitivity let's you turn faster. So does turning up the controller sensitivity but the mouse still has an advantage. There are differences but I don't think they are strong enough to justify segregation. You will just stop people from using mouse and keyboards.

Jesus, Mary and Joseph!



... And then he stroked his Star Trek Evil Universe goatee menacingly.


Oh, wait! No, he didn't. He didn't say anything even remotely like that.




Where, precisely, does he say "segregate," "split," "divide," or anything that implies that? He didn't.

"taking controller input into account" != "segregating the community"


I gotta say, I think y'all might be overreacting.

Feel free to explain how matchmaking factoring in controller type is going to do anything other than assign people to games based on that.

As a player that has spent equal time on both inputs in this game I'd have to say the gap is much smaller than I expected from an infantry point of view. Being a life long PC gamer KB/m feels much more natural and did help my game a bit, although situational awareness is really where it is at. You get it in the back or side it doesn't much matter what your input is.

For that reason I think it is stupid to even consider any match making tweaks based on input.

KB/m is just not practical for vehicles as the current turn speed with the mouse is just too slow. You have to hybrid ds3/ kbm to get the most from a vehicle. Maybe fix that first before coming up with crazy match making algorithms.

PS the mouse speed is still way too slow even for infantry.

Also fix ds3 input.... Not nearly as polished and smooth as any other fps I've tried on ps3.

@Tiel:

What I reckon the idea is would be something like this:

If there are sixteen players with keyboard and mouse, and they're all going into a pub game, the matchmaking system would try to divide them as evenly as possible. Eight to each side, give or take a couple. And even then, this isn't necessarily a primary factor in the matchmaking, but most likely just something that will be taken into account, because, um, that's exactly what Wang said.


If they changed the matchmaking system to do a better job of taking, e.g. four full squads and sixteen randoms, and making two teams of two squads and eight randoms each, instead of three-squads-plus-four vs. one-squad-plus-twelve, would you call that "segregation," too?
Would you really have a problem with that approach to placing squads and randoms in teams? Personally, I'm tired of the redline-fests, no matter which side I land on. (although one end of that equation is significantly more frustrating)

Would folks really have issues with a minor change in how the randoms fill out your team? If you have three KB/M users in your squad, and there're two in mine, and there're five KB/M users in the pile of randoms when all of us join a game, is it really that big of a deal if you guys get two of the KB/M randoms, and we get the other three? Or if both our squads are on the same side, and there're two squads that have no KB/M users, sticking all five of those randoms over there, and only giving us randoms with DS3 controllers? I just don't see the problem.

Or is it that you guys think that this controller-as-factor-somewhere-in-the-matchmaking-process thing will involve breaking up preformed squads or something? 'Cause he didn't say anything about that, either. That I would definitely not like to see, but I really doubt they would do it, so, yeah. I'm not worried.


Anyway, my only point is that I really do think y'all are freaking out over somthing imaginary, or at least not yet known. He wrote two sentences that barely contain any information, and people are acting like the sky is falling.

Point is there's no need to separate the users.

Its a programming issue with how lacking the ds3 is.

This whole thing shouldn't even exist.

CCP by stating that, is literally saying one is more OP then the other so we need to balance teams now because of it.

Instead of fixing the ds3.

What it should be is a players choice in what they're comfortable with, not an unbalanced set up that CCP created.

How did you interpret "taking controller input into account" as "segregating based on controller input"?

I really do not see the gap. Is this part of an on going conversation where I'm missing serious context?

Or are you just being a sensationalist attempting to stir up a lot of confusion and trolling based on some wild assumptions?


I'm guessing the latter...


- To be sure, kb/m is the superior controller for fps. I will definitely buy one if DUST becomes something worth dedicating the money to. I really appreciate the ability to hook up kb/m to DUST, as it's one of the features I feel most console shooters drop the ball on... Why cripple yourself with inferior tech?

- The sensitivity speeds should definitely be tweaked to prevent very high turn speeds, but this is a balancing issues, not an input issue or even a matchmaking issue.

- There is an argument to consider for matchmaking and input device, namely that kb/m should be considered slightly better than controller for grading purposes. However it does not (and I do not feel it is implied by their note) that they should segregate the playerbase.

There is an argument to consider for matchmaking and input device, namely that kb/m should be considered slightly better than controller for grading purposes. However it does not (and I do not feel it is implied by their note) that they should segregate the playerbase.

I use the DS3 in my left hand, and mouse in my right hand. Which category i fit into ?

I thought I was the only player that did this. I only use the mouse to aim and fire.