Get rid of KB/M completely, but segregation would do me just fine....I play a console game for a reason....so I don't have to use a KB/M. If you want to play a FPS with a KB/M go play on your computer....

Only reason I treat Dust seriously as a shooter is because it uses KB/M. Take it away and I'm gone.

Ok, it's time to clear up some misconceptions.

Despite the half quote by the OP which lead to the conclusion that this is to segregate the community by controller input types (which is not case), there are a lot of good feedback, and suggestions about this topic and this is exactly what we want to hear from you, our player community.

What we want to offer is a choice for players who want the option to play against other players using the same input device and not to force anyone into it, which doesn't make much sense as many others have pointed out. If this is implemented into the Matchmaking system it will be done in a way that will not force a segregation of players who use different control inputs. And if this is implemented we will still allow mixed control input matches. To reinterate, this is about giving more choices to our players and not taking it away from you.

One more thing I would like to add is that Matchmaking will only affect high sec public matches and will not affect null sec matches.

We will continue to fine tune the controller sensitivity levels and work on balancing the game play.

Ok, it's time to clear up some misconceptions.

What we want to offer is a choice for players who want the option to play against other players using the same input device and not to force anyone into it, which doesn't make much sense as many others have pointed out. If this is implemented into the Matchmaking system it will be done in a way that will not force a segregation of players who use different control inputs. And if this is implemented we will still allow mixed control input matches. To reinterate, this is about giving more choices to our players and not taking it away from you.

One more thing I would like to add is that Matchmaking will only affect high sec public matches and will not affect null sec matches.

We will continue to fine tune the controller sensitivity levels and work on balancing the game play.

my advice:
dont sepperate the community, ditch KB/M support and every 1 is sitting in the same boat. Simple as that and i dont give a damn what kain spero wants. Dust is at the moment the only game that offers KB/M and if you have a clue about PC gaming then you know that controller users dont really have a chance against KB/M. Another thing is when you ditch this silly "feature" the devs have more time to take care of more important aspects of the game. The only thing that i see again here is that the imperfects defending again a advantage against regular players. We saw what happend last time with the TAC AR or do i have to remember who offered the current soloution to balance them out?

my advice:
dont sepperate the community, ditch KB/M support and every 1 is sitting in the same boat. Simple as that and i dont give a damn what kain spero wants. Dust is at the moment the only game that offers KB/M and if you have a clue about PC gaming then you know that controller users dont really have a chance against KB/M. Another thing is when you ditch this silly "feature" the devs have more time to take care of more important aspects of the game. The only thing that i see again here is that the imperfects defending again a advantage against regular players. We saw what happend last time with the TAC AR or do i have to remember who offered the current soloution to balance them out?

When I saw this posted I thought it was a troll. Gamebreaking imo.

Am I the only one that uses controller and KB at the same time ?

Only reason I treat Dust seriously as a shooter is because it uses KB/M. Take it away and I'm gone.

Ok, it's time to clear up some misconceptions.


What we want to offer is a choice for players who want the option to play against other players using the same input device and not to force anyone into it.

Ok, it's time to clear up some misconceptions.

Despite the half quote by the OP which lead to the conclusion that this is to segregate the community by controller input types (which is not case), there are a lot of good feedback, and suggestions about this topic and this is exactly what we want to hear from you, our player community.

What we want to offer is a choice for players who want the option to play against other players using the same input device and not to force anyone into it, which doesn't make much sense as many others have pointed out. If this is implemented into the Matchmaking system it will be done in a way that will not force a segregation of players who use different control inputs. And if this is implemented we will still allow mixed control input matches. To reinterate, this is about giving more choices to our players and not taking it away from you.

One more thing I would like to add is that Matchmaking will only affect high sec public matches and will not affect null sec matches.

We will continue to fine tune the controller sensitivity levels and work on balancing the game play.

Get rid of KB/M completely, but segregation would do me just fine....I play a console game for a reason....so I don't have to use a KB/M. If you want to play a FPS with a KB/M go play on your computer....

Eve Online is a PC Game. Dust 514 connects to that PC Game. As far as I'm concerned, you're in -MY- world; not the other way around. Self-entitled? Absolutely. Problem with it? You haven't been in New Eden long enough to understand

Ok, it's time to clear up some misconceptions.

Despite the half quote by the OP which lead to the conclusion that this is to segregate the community by controller input types (which is not case), there are a lot of good feedback, and suggestions about this topic and this is exactly what we want to hear from you, our player community.

What we want to offer is a choice for players who want the option to play against other players using the same input device and not to force anyone into it, which doesn't make much sense as many others have pointed out. If this is implemented into the Matchmaking system it will be done in a way that will not force a segregation of players who use different control inputs. And if this is implemented we will still allow mixed control input matches. To reinterate, this is about giving more choices to our players and not taking it away from you.

One more thing I would like to add is that Matchmaking will only affect high sec public matches and will not affect null sec matches.

We will continue to fine tune the controller sensitivity levels and work on balancing the game play.

CCP Cmdr Wang, if you give people the option to self segregate themselves by offering "a choice for players who want the option to play against other players using the same input device" then you are fostering segregation whole heartily. I don't care if you allow there to be mixed input matches or if the segregation is by choice. Trying to hide behind the fact that you would be giving players "more choices" is NO excuse. Any type of matchmaking that takes into account controller input puts the game on a very dangerous and very slippery slope. It endangers the sandbox and the community.

Please, I urge you not to continue down this path. This is coming from someone who loves this game and has been along for the ride with you all developing this game for almost a year now. Please reconsider this course of action. The freedom of inputs is one of this games most unique features and something that amazes me every time I play it. The fact that you have made a system where someone can start with a DS3 then switch to Mouse and keyboard, and then transition almost seamlessly to the Move and then back again is a great achievement. Don't cheapen this accomplishment by building walls among the player base in their very earliest moments in the game.

Ok, it's time to clear up some misconceptions.

Despite the half quote by the OP which lead to the conclusion that this is to segregate the community by controller input types (which is not case), there are a lot of good feedback, and suggestions about this topic and this is exactly what we want to hear from you, our player community.

What we want to offer is a choice for players who want the option to play against other players using the same input device and not to force anyone into it, which doesn't make much sense as many others have pointed out. If this is implemented into the Matchmaking system it will be done in a way that will not force a segregation of players who use different control inputs. And if this is implemented we will still allow mixed control input matches. To reinterate, this is about giving more choices to our players and not taking it away from you.

One more thing I would like to add is that Matchmaking will only affect high sec public matches and will not affect null sec matches.

We will continue to fine tune the controller sensitivity levels and work on balancing the game play.

Fiddle all you want with the high sec mechanics. It won't stop the playerbase slide; honestly it's a waste of time. Someone in the office is playing the blame game and spun the wheel to controllers vs KBM. They couldn't be more wrong. The game isn't catching on because you are under-delivering on the persistent universe promise.

You are making a **** poor lobby shooter and you should stop, because no one here came for that and other companies do it a lot better.

I'm sorry I'm being so abrasive, but you seem to not understand the harm you are doing to your own community a majority of the time lately. It wasn't always this way, I hope that whatever changed for the worse can be rectified soon.

Fiddle all you want with the high sec mechanics. It won't stop the playerbase slide; honestly it's a waste of time. Someone in the office is playing the blame game and spun the wheel to controllers vs KBM. They couldn't be more wrong. The game isn't catching on because you are under-delivering on the persistent universe promise.

You are making a **** poor lobby shooter and you should stop, because no one here came for that and other companies do it a lot better.

I'm sorry I'm being so abrasive, but you seem to not understand the harm you are doing to your own community a majority of the time lately. It wasn't always this way, I hope that whatever changed for the worse can be rectified soon.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Sorry but why you dont wanna play with controller?

... I do play with a controller.

What we want to offer is a choice for players who want the option to play against other players using the same input device and not to force anyone into it, which doesn't make much sense as many others have pointed out. If this is implemented into the Matchmaking system it will be done in a way that will not force a segregation of players who use different control inputs. And if this is implemented we will still allow mixed control input matches. To reinterate, this is about giving more choices to our players and not taking it away from you.

You may not be forcing it, but you're enabling it. Giving me the choice to play with only people using my control scheme, you're giving me the ability to separate myself from everyone else using a bogus criterion. There's no reason for this option. You already supposedly have matchmaking take into consideration some measure of player skill, that's all that matters. Control scheme has NOTHING to do with anything, and it's mind boggling why you would give this as an option to avoid a class of players based on that.