DS3 users are the dominat here because Dust514 is on PS3 so you think that forcing them to play with Kb/M is a good ideea?

Yes its forcing Kb/M if you want to have more chances of winning.

If you want Dust514 to die ahead of its time go ahead and make Kb/M standard for win , AURUM is doing already a good job at keeping most people away.

Dust514 needs filters for Kb/M and AURUM users if devs want more people to play Dust514.

If you like Kb/M so much you should play against Kb/M users , why play against the weak and disabled that dont use AURUM and Kb/M?

Adapt or die.

If you want Dust514 to die ahead of its time go ahead and make Kb/M standard for win , AURUM is doing already a good job at keeping most people away.

Drones Attack , truth hurts eh?

You know what.... I have the solution.

Do two leagues.

Pro / Vet league - Everything goes, all control types, any ping.

Noob / Lazy league - Only DS3, only perfect Pings, and everything have to be bellow tier 1 equipment.

Problem solved.

If you like Kb/M so much you should play against Kb/M users , why play against the weak and disabled that dont use AURUM and Kb/M?

Adapt or die.

I'm trying to understand the meaning behind this post, but I can't find it.

Assist?

Adapt, as in, get a KB/M if you think that's so much better? Hmmm

Also, you think CCP would seperate those who pay real money from those who don't, to lure in more people that don't pay money? Riiiiight :) Face it: if you're not paying real money, you're cannon-fodder meant to increase enjoyment and therefore willingness to spend cash for those who do

I've been reading this thread up till now, and can summarize it this way:

DS3 users who are good players that get killed by any KB/M player: KB/M support is fine.
DS3 users who are bad players that get killed by DS3 users who are good players: BooHoo, there should be a ranking system. It's not fair that people who are better than me can play in the same matches.
DS3 users who are bad players that get killed by KB/M players: BooHoo, KB/M is unfair because I got shot by a KB/M player once and choose the reason for that to be the hardware, not the skill and experience of someone who's probably been playing FPSs since LONG before a console even got a sniff in at FPSs, and probably longer than I've even been alive.

The supremacy of KB/M or DS3 is imagined. My k/d is pretty much identical whether I use either (I admit, my KB/M rate is probably a bit higher, but that's because that is the control system I'm accustomed to primarily). I'm an oldschool FPSer (wolfenstein/doom/hexen casual, then right up to being a dominant player on the old barrysworld UK half-life 1 and quake 2 servers before I stepped away from competitive play for university and work) so I use a KB/M mainly because that's what I learned to FPS on.

The bottom line is: If you can't beat them, join them. Then you'll realize that it was just you sucking at the game.

The small print is: This isn't CoD97/MW246-2/generic army shooter 124. Different strokes. You're playing an FPS plug-in to the most sandboxey of sandbox games. If you're upset about control inputs, You're likely to kill yourself when the game is fully integrated, and someone relieves your corp of it's leet gears.

i know and its sad

Adapt, as in, get a KB/M if you think that's so much better? Hmmm

Also, you think CCP would seperate those who pay real money from those who don't, to lure in more people that don't pay money? Riiiiight :) Face it: if you're not paying real money, you're cannon-fodder meant to increase enjoyment and therefore willingness to spend cash for those who do

I think he's just trying to be clever, but not pulling it off very well. Especially when the truth is everyone is on a level playing field, which is what 90% of people have been saying.

Adapt or cry. (tm)

yeah im the one crying : "pwease let us kwill contwollel pipal wit our supiriur kb/m , don tke it away from uz pweaze"

all im trying is to have a balance in the game while you try to unbalance the game

yeah im the one crying : "pwease let us kwill contwollel pipal wit our supiriur kb/m , don tke it away from uz pweaze"

i know and its sad

Not quite. I don't pay for anything other than boosters and a few items to test. The heavy aurum users to me are just a massive payday. The isk reward from dropping those guys is huge, and ever since the protosuits have gone Aur I've been seeing payouts of over 500k on a regular basis.

Adapt or cry (tm)

I was of course exaggerating a bit here on the cannon-fodder part: you can be competitive without spending a dime.

However, I was very serious when it comes to separating paying from non-paying players. The game can only exist if it generates revenue. While non-paying players can "help" the game by making it more enjoyable for paying players, separating them would defeat that purpose meaning they are only "leeching", CCP would have absolutely no reason to want them around.

You have no idea how F2P games work do you ?

Long term players will end up Buying for "something" at one point or another, but not every one wants to pay for an advantage in regular basics. Eg ;only Buying for cosmetics now and again.

But the long term players are the ones that keep the game alive, regardless of how much real cash they spend on it.

The two things are needed in a F2P game.... The long term player that doesn't spend cash in regular basics, and the casual player that pays cash in regular basics.

Not entirely true. To keep the game alive, a certain amount of revenue is required. While it is true that long-term players are important to the game, if they do not generate enough revenue, it's "game over".

Now, the goal of any F2P game is to make a profit. To do this, the game needs to encourage people to spend money on it. Not everyone has to spend money, but enough players need to spend enough to keep it going. Non-paying players have "value" because they add to the game's enjoyability, which leads to more players including players that do pay.

You getting confuse with Pay To Win games ( P2W ).

Free To Play games are about "Volume", the biggest the community, the highest is the revenue ( Profit ).

If you have to pay to win, the community is smaller, and the profit margin is also smaller. You have to encourage people to "play" the game, regardless if the pay or not.

It is a reason why more and more companies are using this marketing model. Because in the long term, it generates more profit than a Play to win model.

DS3 users are the dominat here because Dust514 is on PS3 so you think that forcing them to play with Kb/M is a good ideea?

Yes its forcing Kb/M if you want to have more chances of winning.

If you want Dust514 to die ahead of its time go ahead and make Kb/M standard for win , AURUM is doing already a good job at keeping most people away.

Dust514 needs filters for Kb/M and AURUM users if devs want more people to play Dust514.

If you like Kb/M so much you should play against Kb/M users , why play against the weak and disabled that dont use AURUM and Kb/M?

Adapt or die.

No, you're the one crying that you want to be a DS3 special snowflake.

It is balanced. Everyone can use the same hardware. If you choose to walk, don't complain the car got there first.

Working as intended.

Adapt or cry TT_TT

You have to pay extra for a kb/m.
So if you want to have more control over your character you have to pay more. PTW?

The ps3 allows the use of a kb/m but does not mean dust should be able to use it for gaming.

Personally i won't play with a kb/m and if CCP does not disable them for everyone i will end up buying something like this.

I'll be paying a little more to be better. My semi-autos will be auto etc.
I'll express my interest in having a modded Dust controller. They will make them.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=587744#post587744

Do not separate by controller type; you will destroy the game community.

You have to pay extra for a kb/m.
So if you want to have more control over your character you have to pay more. PTW?

The ps3 allows the use of a kb/m but does not mean dust should be able to use it for gaming.

Personally i won't play with a kb/m and if CCP does not disable them for everyone i will end up buying something like this.

I'll be paying a little more to be better. My semi-autos will be auto etc.
I'll express my interest in having a modded Dust controller. They will make them.

I like the people who talk about not wanting to spend the large amounts of cash to change over to KB/M as their justification to hate the KB/M community. Fortunately, they don't have to change. I get taken down all the time by DS3 players. There's really nothing that can be done with the KB/M that can't be matched with the other two control methods.

DS3 = $59.99

PS Move = $47.50
PS Move Navigation controller = $28.51
Total = $76.01

My generic keyboard = $9.99
My generic wireless mouse = $12.99
Total = 22.98

How long till people QQ that the move is an unfair control method?