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Stundryn
The Inf1dels Zombie Ninja Space Bears
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Posted - 2013.03.07 08:21:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Stundryn wrote:xaerael Kabiel wrote: No, you're the one crying that you want to be a DS3 special snowflake.
It is balanced. Everyone can use the same hardware. If you choose to walk, don't complain the car got there first.
Working as intended.
Adapt or cry TT_TT
You have to pay extra for a kb/m. So if you want to have more control over your character you have to pay more. PTW? The ps3 allows the use of a kb/m but does not mean dust should be able to use it for gaming. Personally i won't play with a kb/m and if CCP does not disable them for everyone i will end up buying something like this. I'll be paying a little more to be better. My semi-autos will be auto etc. I'll express my interest in having a modded Dust controller. They will make them. It's because of worthless terrible gamers like yourself also that games are getting so easy and so easy to exploit cheating, because God forbid you should work to succeed. Naaaaah, have buttons that do everything for you, so you don't have to worry about anything. You were probably one of those people that if you were on SOCOM, you cheated with Code 9. It's because of people like you that gaming is being destroyed.
Actually this is my first console shooter. My ps3 came with a DS3 and Move. My ratio is 1.0+ Never played SOCOM but i see you are pretty emo about it. I have a decent PC and prefer it for shooters/Eve. However i bought a ps3 for this particular game. I find that my ps3 did not come with a keyboard or mouse. Only a DS3/Move. Yet i am seeing increased advantage to using kb/m to play on the ps3. So rather than using a kb/m that i prefer (cost nearly $200) . I will do the same thing and buy a controller that has an advantage for less money. If spending money is how one gets better then....i guess it is okay to spend money on better controllers.
If they say i am cheating....so are all the kb/m users. The new kb/m can have key binds that are stored in memory. There is your rapid fire etc.
CCP just needs to remove the kb/m input for Dust. Problem solved.
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Panther Alpha
Blueberries United
91
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Posted - 2013.03.07 08:46:00 -
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Stundryn wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Stundryn wrote:xaerael Kabiel wrote: No, you're the one crying that you want to be a DS3 special snowflake.
It is balanced. Everyone can use the same hardware. If you choose to walk, don't complain the car got there first.
Working as intended.
Adapt or cry TT_TT
You have to pay extra for a kb/m. So if you want to have more control over your character you have to pay more. PTW? The ps3 allows the use of a kb/m but does not mean dust should be able to use it for gaming. Personally i won't play with a kb/m and if CCP does not disable them for everyone i will end up buying something like this. I'll be paying a little more to be better. My semi-autos will be auto etc. I'll express my interest in having a modded Dust controller. They will make them. It's because of worthless terrible gamers like yourself also that games are getting so easy and so easy to exploit cheating, because God forbid you should work to succeed. Naaaaah, have buttons that do everything for you, so you don't have to worry about anything. You were probably one of those people that if you were on SOCOM, you cheated with Code 9. It's because of people like you that gaming is being destroyed. Actually this is my first console shooter. My ps3 came with a DS3 and Move. My ratio is 1.0+ Never played SOCOM but i see you are pretty emo about it. I have a decent PC and prefer it for shooters/Eve. However i bought a ps3 for this particular game. I find that my ps3 did not come with a keyboard or mouse. Only a DS3/Move. Yet i am seeing increased advantage to using kb/m to play on the ps3. So rather than using a kb/m that i prefer (cost nearly $200) . I will do the same thing and buy a controller that has an advantage for less money. If spending money is how one gets better then....i guess it is okay to spend money on better controllers. If they say i am cheating....so are all the kb/m users. The new kb/m can have key binds that are stored in memory. There is your rapid fire etc. CCP just needs to remove the kb/m input for Dust. Problem solved.
Out of curiosity, even is CCP remove KB/M support, how you planing to stop people from getting a modified DS3, or an Eagle Eye ? |
Kray Dytt
THE DOLLARS
12
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Posted - 2013.03.07 09:01:00 -
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Stundryn wrote:
Actually this is my first console shooter. My ps3 came with a DS3 and Move. My ratio is 1.0+ Never played SOCOM but i see you are pretty emo about it. I have a decent PC and prefer it for shooters/Eve. However i bought a ps3 for this particular game. I find that my ps3 did not come with a keyboard or mouse. Only a DS3/Move. Yet i am seeing increased advantage to using kb/m to play on the ps3. So rather than using a kb/m that i prefer (cost nearly $200) . I will do the same thing and buy a controller that has an advantage for less money. If spending money is how one gets better then....i guess it is okay to spend money on better controllers.
If they say i am cheating....so are all the kb/m users. The new kb/m can have key binds that are stored in memory. There is your rapid fire etc.
CCP just needs to remove the kb/m input for Dust. Problem solved.
Did your PS3 come with a TV? Mine didn't, but I find it provides me a great advantage compared to not having a TV....
Also, I'm way more effective sitting on my sofa than I am sitting on the ground, yet my PS3 did not come with a sofa.
Luckily, I already had both a TV and a sofa. amazingly, I also had a keyboard and a mouse, since I own a computer too. Actually, I had a couple of spare keyboards and mice... they aren't worth 200$ though. More like 20$. they don't have fancy programmable buttons. The combination I'm using now isn't even wireless. Works fine though, I still prefer it to a DS3.
If you want to buy a controller with all kinds of mods, go right ahead. I see absolutely no reason why you shouldn't be allowed to. Auto-fire and comparable features, fine by me. Heck, you could pay a professional FPS player to play the game for you for all I care...
Removing KB/M input for Dust will not "solve" any "problem". It will however cost the game a large number of players, me included, who simply don't like playing FPS games with a controller. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1871
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Posted - 2013.03.07 09:33:00 -
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Stundryn wrote:Yet i am seeing increased advantage to using kb/m to play on the ps3. As someone who has actually USED both control schemes, I'd love to know what this mythical advantage really is.
Thanks in advance.
Note: Glitches like the armour tank speed thing don't count. There are issues to be addressed with both control schemes, in particular with vehicle controls and the lack of customisation options. |
Axirts
Misfits of Mayhem
28
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Posted - 2013.03.07 09:45:00 -
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Forget nerfing kbm or ds3, Buff up the move! |
Kray Dytt
THE DOLLARS
12
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Posted - 2013.03.07 10:16:00 -
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Axirts wrote:Forget nerfing kbm or ds3, Buff up the move!
I almost bought one to play this game with, until I read about people's experiences with it in Dust |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1209
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Posted - 2013.03.07 10:38:00 -
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Kray Dytt wrote:Axirts wrote:Forget nerfing kbm or ds3, Buff up the move! I almost bought one to play this game with, until I read about people's experiences with it in Dust
They literally could just copy Socom 4's mapping and be golden. Instead they left it at default which is unworkable. |
BlG MAMA
PLAYSTATION4
5
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Posted - 2013.03.07 11:45:00 -
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Having Kb/M and DS3 users in same match is balanced...yeah riiight.
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BlG MAMA
PLAYSTATION4
5
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Posted - 2013.03.07 11:54:00 -
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Kray Dytt wrote:BlG MAMA wrote:Kray Dytt wrote:BlG MAMA wrote: If you like Kb/M so much you should play against Kb/M users , why play against the weak and disabled that dont use AURUM and Kb/M?
Adapt or die.
Adapt, as in, get a KB/M if you think that's so much better? Hmmm Also, you think CCP would seperate those who pay real money from those who don't, to lure in more people that don't pay money? Riiiiight :) Face it: if you're not paying real money, you're cannon-fodder meant to increase enjoyment and therefore willingness to spend cash for those who do i know and its sad I was of course exaggerating a bit here on the cannon-fodder part: you can be competitive without spending a dime. However, I was very serious when it comes to separating paying from non-paying players. The game can only exist if it generates revenue. While non-paying players can "help" the game by making it more enjoyable for paying players, separating them would defeat that purpose meaning they are only "leeching", CCP would have absolutely no reason to want them around.
i agree but why not 60$ for the game ,like every other game and have everyone equal stuff?
oh yeah...greed
game is NOT "free" , they took your chance of winning normaly only to sell it back to you
thats why the combo :AURUM and Kb/M needs to go in filters
game wont last long with this formula if not
it will end up in a clusterfuck ruled by aurum+Kb/M users because once you spend AURUM more likely you would like to INCREASE your chance by playing with Kb/M since you spend RL money you need to maximize your chances
regular people will get pushed out of the game , an empty game is a dead game
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1210
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Posted - 2013.03.07 11:58:00 -
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BlG MAMA wrote:Kray Dytt wrote:BlG MAMA wrote:Kray Dytt wrote:BlG MAMA wrote: If you like Kb/M so much you should play against Kb/M users , why play against the weak and disabled that dont use AURUM and Kb/M?
Adapt or die.
Adapt, as in, get a KB/M if you think that's so much better? Hmmm Also, you think CCP would seperate those who pay real money from those who don't, to lure in more people that don't pay money? Riiiiight :) Face it: if you're not paying real money, you're cannon-fodder meant to increase enjoyment and therefore willingness to spend cash for those who do i know and its sad I was of course exaggerating a bit here on the cannon-fodder part: you can be competitive without spending a dime. However, I was very serious when it comes to separating paying from non-paying players. The game can only exist if it generates revenue. While non-paying players can "help" the game by making it more enjoyable for paying players, separating them would defeat that purpose meaning they are only "leeching", CCP would have absolutely no reason to want them around. i agree but why not 60$ for the game ,like every other game and have everyone equal stuff? oh yeah...greed game is NOT "free" , they took your chance of winning normaly only to sell it back to you thats why the combo :AURUM and Kb/M needs to go in filters game wont last long with this formula if not it will end up in a clusterfuck ruled by aurum+Kb/M users because once you spend AURUM more likely you would like to INCREASE your chance by playing with Kb/M since you spend RL money you need to maximize your chances regular people will get pushed out of the game , an empty game is a dead game
If AUR and Froobs are seperated, there is no point in even having free players.
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BlG MAMA
PLAYSTATION4
5
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Posted - 2013.03.07 12:05:00 -
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you would end up in playing only against AUR and Kb/M users anyway , no one likes to be target practice for advantaged people
regular people will leave and no more weak people to shoot with your Kb/M and your AUR stuff
would you dare to spend more money on AUR items then when you know the whole enemy team is AUR and Kb/M equipped?
i think not
thats why some of you people are against this , so you could stand a chance
its like beating kids and you endorsing it
and thats a FACT
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1210
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Posted - 2013.03.07 12:16:00 -
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BlG MAMA wrote:you would end up in playing only against AUR and Kb/M users anyway , no one likes to be target practice for advantaged people regular people will leave and no more weak people to shoot with your Kb/M and your AUR stuff would you dare to spend more money on AUR items then when you know the whole enemy team is AUR and Kb/M equipped? i think not thats why some of you people are against this , so you could stand a chance its like beating kids and you endorsing it and thats a FACT
Your facts are nothing more than pompous opinions elevated from unsubstantiated assumptions and faulty logic.
In your own logic, separating people into AUR only queues would make them not spend AUR... thus they are not in the queue and would buy AUR and then... you are making my head hurt.
FACT - free players are content for paying customers, that is the entire business model; giving them their own corner is tantamount to giving the game away for free entirely |
xaerael Kabiel
Immobile Infantry
4
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Posted - 2013.03.07 12:18:00 -
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BlG MAMA wrote:you would end up in playing only against AUR and Kb/M users anyway , no one likes to be target practice for advantaged people regular people will leave and no more weak people to shoot with your Kb/M and your AUR stuff would you dare to spend more money on AUR items then when you know the whole enemy team is AUR and Kb/M equipped? i think not thats why some of you people are against this , so you could stand a chance its like beating kids and you endorsing it and thats a FACT
I.... wow.
You are indeed a special snowflake. Every time someone says something against your agenda, you ignore the critical points and have another cry.
Adapt or cry TT_TT |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1876
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Posted - 2013.03.07 12:21:00 -
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BlG MAMA wrote:Having Kb/M and DS3 users in same match is balanced...yeah riiight. And once again, your evidence is...? |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1210
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Posted - 2013.03.07 12:25:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:BlG MAMA wrote:Having Kb/M and DS3 users in same match is balanced...yeah riiight. And once again, your evidence is...?
I have both, I play with people who are "elite" with both, and aside from the tank mobility glitch, there's nothing stopping you from beating anyone else in any controller scheme combination matchup. Besides move, which is terrible atm |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1876
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Posted - 2013.03.07 12:53:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:BlG MAMA wrote:Having Kb/M and DS3 users in same match is balanced...yeah riiight. And once again, your evidence is...? I have both, I play with people who are "elite" with both, and aside from the tank mobility glitch, there's nothing stopping you from beating anyone else in any controller scheme combination matchup. Besides move, which is terrible atm That supports what I'm saying. And is based on basically the same evidence I have to work with.
I'm asking for evidence to support the claim that they're NOT balanced (evidenced in this case by "yeah riight" as a sarcastic finale). |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1210
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Posted - 2013.03.07 14:33:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:BlG MAMA wrote:Having Kb/M and DS3 users in same match is balanced...yeah riiight. And once again, your evidence is...? I have both, I play with people who are "elite" with both, and aside from the tank mobility glitch, there's nothing stopping you from beating anyone else in any controller scheme combination matchup. Besides move, which is terrible atm That supports what I'm saying. And is based on basically the same evidence I have to work with. I'm asking for evidence to support the claim that they're NOT balanced (evidenced in this case by "yeah riight" as a sarcastic finale).
Oh I'm merely reinforcing your demand for evidence with an anecdote that is against segregation. Honestly the top players are split pretty evenly between controllers in my experience, and the best sniper uses dualshock. So it's clearly not an issue of one control scheme dominating like faster paced twitch games have experienced. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1877
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Posted - 2013.03.07 14:55:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:So it's clearly not an issue of one control scheme dominating like faster paced twitch games with no turn-speed cap for mouse users have experienced. You missed a spot.
But sorry for missing your point, and thanks. +1 to both your posts. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
173
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Posted - 2013.03.07 18:02:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:BlG MAMA wrote:Having Kb/M and DS3 users in same match is balanced...yeah riiight. And once again, your evidence is...? I have both, I play with people who are "elite" with both, and aside from the tank mobility glitch, there's nothing stopping you from beating anyone else in any controller scheme combination matchup. Besides move, which is terrible atm
I use KB/M and I still haven't come across this instant top speed armor tank bug I keep hearing about. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
173
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Posted - 2013.03.07 18:08:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:So it's clearly not an issue of one control scheme dominating like faster paced twitch games with no turn-speed cap for mouse users have experienced. You missed a spot. But sorry for missing your point, and thanks. +1 to both your posts.
Not sure what's going on with this. Are you agreeing that there is a turn speed cap on the mouse, that was broken last build, or are you saying that there is currently no turn speed cap which would be blatantly false? |
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Ademis Kalel
WarRavens
1
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Posted - 2013.03.07 18:15:00 -
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the only thing that should be seperated is the move, ive played many a game MAG, KZ3 with the sharpshooter and it takes a tremendous amount of skill over a controller or Mouse to use. I wish KZ3 had the option to go into a game with only the sharpshooter it would have been a more competitve atmosphere with out a doubt. Until then I use the controller on this game since the sharpshooter takes more energy to use. |
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