You don't have to walk over them to get killed by one. They have a huge blast radius. Plus the fact REs can be thrown AND they slide after landing. Something IS wrong here. I don't see how anyone can deny it.

make it a lvl 4 prereq and the lvl 5 be the cortex.

I have no problem spending SP to get those.

I said before i've ever used them that a lvl 1 prereq is crazy for them

but to be honest they have to be looking at how much they are used to find the SP multiplier for them and the cortex.

Yeah. I was on a Skirmish Map and an RE blast From US Communications Ambush blew me. It's got such a huge blast radius! They shouldn't be able to do that!

You don't have to walk over them to get killed by one. They have a huge blast radius. Plus the fact REs can be thrown AND they slide after landing. Something IS wrong here. I don't see how anyone can deny it.

Well, the only thing I'd say is that I'd be OK with having to spend more SP to work your way up to the current RE's.

But so what if they can be thrown? So what if they slide? Why does that matter? Assault rifles propel bullets through the air. That's war.

Do RE kills always come from people walking over them? No, of course not. But assault rifle kills don't always come from someone you're shooting at. Sometimes you get shot in the back. And sometimes a crafty RE guy rolls up behind you and blows you 2.8 meters into the air. Both tactics are valid. Pay attention and you will die less, be it from bullets or RE's. Really, they're not that bad.

imho RE should done more damage to "material" like turret and vehicle and should done less damage to player

So, I can tear through Armor Plates but not a Dropsuit?

so my question is if people are getting this butt hurt about RE, are they going to get butt hurt when orbital strikes start raining down from fleets above.

+1 Brother. +1

Cortex is the varient of the RE we have. :P

look at the info on RE's.

Cortex? It's the modules of Orbital Bombardments

People start to lose a gun fight so they just jump hit R2-R1-L1 and problem solved. It is getting ridiculous

RE's are cheap ways of getting kills and its really annoying when your in a firefight with someone, and either your kills are stolen by someone, or you get killed by someone using them.

Its cheap, and they need to do something about it to prevent people from using the exploit any more.

Well, the only thing I'd say is that I'd be OK with having to spend more SP to work your way up to the current RE's.

But so what if they can be thrown? So what if they slide? Why does that matter? Assault rifles propel bullets through the air. That's war.

Do RE kills always come from people walking over them? No, of course not. But assault rifle kills don't always come from someone you're shooting at. Sometimes you get shot in the back. And sometimes a crafty RE guy rolls up behind you and blows you 2.8 meters into the air. Both tactics are valid. Pay attention and you will die less, be it from bullets or RE's. Really, they're not that bad.

Just to be clear, I don't have an issue with their damage or blast radius or the fact they can be thrown, slide or whatever. My issue with the REs is their off balance deploy/detonate mechanics.

They have a short deploy timer

Most times i try to do it right after i throw it but it doesn't work till a another press of the button.

If it could be instant-detonated I'd have alot more suicides

I normally jump away after i toss it so when i land i know it can be detonated without haveing to press twice

They have a very short deployment time and a very short detonation timer. Add the two times together and it's still a very short amount of time.

it's fast combat most times. you can't slow it down so much that they are completely useless to everything.

REs are not supposed to replace primary weapons. .

Where is it said for that?

As far as i'm informed, CCP has said you can take it anyway you want it.

I've made a request for an equipable knife so i don't need to carry a gun to make the fit valid.

Cause I'm one of those idiots that like to take the game a TOTALLY different way.

But again, no one's ever said what can and cannot be your mainly used weapon.

Where is it said for that?

As far as i'm informed, CCP has said you can take it anyway you want it.

I've made a request for an equipable knife so i don't need to carry a gun to make the fit valid.

Cause I'm one of those idiots that like to take the game a TOTALLY different way.

But again, no one's ever said what can and cannot be your mainly used weapon.

Where is it said for that?

As far as i'm informed, CCP has said you can take it anyway you want it.

I've made a request for an equipable knife so i don't need to carry a gun to make the fit valid.

Cause I'm one of those idiots that like to take the game a TOTALLY different way.

But again, no one's ever said what can and cannot be your mainly used weapon.

Well, I'm all for it. Play how you want to play. You are right, I was wrong to say "REs are not supposed to replace primary weapons". And an equipable knife would be awesome. But I still feel that the combination of stats and ease-of-use makes the RE, in it's current state, OP. Either their stats need to change or the way they can be used needs to change.

I vote for changing the way they are used.

People will find ways to do it anyways.

I'd rather have more dedication to them for the power they have.

No stat changes.
No Timer increase.

Just higher prereq. (lvl 4)
Maybe even higher SP multiplier.

It's a skill to also have a Cortex to orbital strike. It should be a bit higher anyways.

I agree. I like being the oddball. I like hearing people go:

"Did he just jump on top that dropship???"

People will find ways to do it anyways.

I'd rather have more dedication to them for the power they have.

No stat changes.
No Timer increase.

Just higher prereq. lvl 4
Maybe even higher SP multiplier.

It's a skill to also have a Cortex to orbital strike. It should be a bit higher anyways.

Another RE thread come and gone.

I say wait for a more true build before we hit everything with the nerf hammer! No ff, no grouping, free vehicles, one map, bad draw distances and spawning. All these need to be addressed then we can start with the QQing over OP weapons.

I've seen plenty of players learning to watch for RE users, they stay away and actually have to aim instead of running straight up to me. Why are you running at me any ways? Keep your distance learn to aim and be patient for another build and use what wwe have any way you can.

Give REs a rest and find another weapon or object to bash for a lil.

The issue isn't avoiding RE users, the issue is beating someone in a gun fight and before the enemy dies they throw an RE at your feet and even if you kill them the RE still triggers and you die.