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el OPERATOR
Capital Acquisitions LLC
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.15 20:04:00 -
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mollerz wrote:el OPERATOR wrote:Jebus McKing wrote:
If a scout catches you form behind he doesn't even need a cloak.
Then cloaks aren't neccessary for scouts to do their job? Well, not what I was going for but I'm sure the throngs of "RemoveCloaks" opinionated players are happy to hear that from you. LOL brainscrub. EDIT: Dang it, almost forgot- Nerf scouts. All stats. At all levels. Cloaks are only good for minjas due to the active dampening they need to get under scans. It's horrible for knifing. I only use it on hack suits. My bread and butter is hunting heavies with knives so cloaks aren't very useful for that. But let's face it, if a scout got within shotgun range BEHIND YOU and you didn't see the huge blue glow BEHIND YOU you weren't going to see it coming anyways.
Yet another not what I was going for, but w/e, it proves the point just as well episode.
This Moment in Low IQ Interpretive Dance has been brought to you by scouts, hubris and the letters G and G.
EDIT- Dang! I'm having a real hard time remembering this whole zealotry thing...
Nerf scouts. All stats. At all levels.
Open-Beta Vet.
Drunk Night Tree Burner.
This is my Main and Original.
DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
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Magnus Amadeuss
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
1167
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Posted - 2014.10.15 20:05:00 -
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mollerz wrote:el OPERATOR wrote:Jebus McKing wrote:
If a scout catches you form behind he doesn't even need a cloak.
Then cloaks aren't neccessary for scouts to do their job? Well, not what I was going for but I'm sure the throngs of "RemoveCloaks" opinionated players are happy to hear that from you. LOL brainscrub. EDIT: Dang it, almost forgot- Nerf scouts. All stats. At all levels. Cloaks are only good for minjas due to the active dampening they need to get under scans. It's horrible for knifing. I only use it on hack suits. My bread and butter is hunting heavies with knives so cloaks aren't very useful for that. But let's face it, if a scout got within shotgun range and you didn't see the huge blue glow you weren't going to see it coming anyways.
You do know that blue glow depends on:
Map
Lighting
Background
and most importantly
improper TV settings. If you need to adjust the contrast/brightness to super high levels (thus reducing your TVs life considerably) to see something, that is pure neckbeard territory, and not something to take into consideration when balancing.
Fixing EWAR
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2014.10.15 20:06:00 -
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el OPERATOR wrote:Jebus McKing wrote:
If a scout catches you form behind he doesn't even need a cloak.
Then cloaks aren't neccessary for scouts to do their job?
That isn't true. Scouts don't just slay. They infiltrate and hack.
Pre 1.8, I would often take several minutes to skirt the entire map, as close to the redline as possible, just to get to a far off CRU and/or objective to give my team a better chance, only to have someone spot me from 100 m or more away after all my effort and take me out in the blink of an eye.
Just because you don't see everything I do as a team mate, and only pay attention to the scouts that are killing you, doesn't mean that killing is the only scout role.
I don't end up on the top of leader boards with 10 kills or less because I everyone else is just that bad, there are other ways to score WP and win matches.
You can always tell a Millford Minja
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mollerz
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Posted - 2014.10.15 21:13:00 -
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Pro TIp: Calling someone a dummy is ad hominem. It is not incorrectly using the term. But I am glad I can clear that up for you. Someday, maybe a mod will as well?...cough cough.
I would have had a more in depth conversation with you, but since I am just a dummy why waste your time?
All you've done is remove any consideration into your plight, and good job in having a super heavy handed cheerleader advocating your changes with an all encompassing nerf to scouts. We all know why but we'll just let that be the elephant in the room.
I couldn't have dismantled your position and argument better than you have yourself.
I'm seriously fukn serious
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el OPERATOR
Capital Acquisitions LLC
General Tso's Alliance
388
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Posted - 2014.10.15 22:15:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:el OPERATOR wrote:Jebus McKing wrote:
If a scout catches you form behind he doesn't even need a cloak.
Then cloaks aren't neccessary for scouts to do their job? That isn't true. Scouts don't just slay. They infiltrate and hack. Pre 1.8, I would often take several minutes to skirt the entire map, as close to the redline as possible, just to get to a far off CRU and/or objective to give my team a better chance, only to have someone spot me from 100 m or more away after all my effort and take me out in the blink of an eye. Just because you don't see everything I do as a team mate, and only pay attention to the scouts that are killing you, doesn't mean that killing is the only scout role. I don't end up on the top of leader boards with 10 kills or less because I everyone else is just that bad, there are other ways to score WP and win matches.
And I don't frequently rank in the top 5 with 1 or 2 kills and a whole sheetton of deaths because I'm oblivious to there being more that needs to be done than kill.
I am not anti-cloak.
I am not anti-tactical play.
I am also not anti-gamebalancing that prohibits any single one class from being overly dominant in battlefield effect, thus
Nerf scouts. All stats. At all levels.
P.S. I'm glad that some point you read or were taught section one, chapter one of basic recon 101- Use the Edge. That you missed chapter two, Don't Be in Line of Sight or chapter three, Create a Fallback Along the Way, doesn't justify retention of the stack of base advantages the scout frame has. Initially, I felt the biggest issue was dual equipments. After having attempted and observed various balancing discussions and witnessed the gross entitlement culture of todays scout community I am now very much a
Nerf scouts. All stats. At all levels.
guy.
Thank your own community for their help both in game and on forum in forging this mentality.
Open-Beta Vet.
Drunk Night Tree Burner.
This is my Main and Original.
DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
2593
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Posted - 2014.10.15 22:59:00 -
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I think you just broke the forums by calling me and Adipem the same person...
We disagree on so much its hilarious.
In fact, we had each other blocked and refused to communicate for an entire month, iirc.
I think hell find it absolutely hilarious, if he reads this.
However, he, unlike you, has an ounce of common sense, and therefore, in this situation, (as well as a few others), I can very easily agree with him, as all he tries to do is balance the game.
Trust me, Ive known him for a very long time.
He is one of the least self-serving people you could find on here, and his unbiased feedback is literally the opposite of you ultra-self serving, IQ lowering, rants.
Therefore, Iv decided to side with him in this issue.
Scanning should never be nearly as powerful of a force as dampening.
Thats what you have eyeballs for. You know, for seeing the red dot above someones head when you aim at them or the fact that they exist at all without a blue chevron over their head, or the brilliant and lol- worthy blue-purple shimmer that signifies a cloaked unit.
I dont understand how many more crutches heavies need...
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
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Magnus Amadeuss
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
1168
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Posted - 2014.10.16 07:08:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Pro TIp: Calling someone a dummy is ad hominem. It is not incorrectly using the term. But I am glad I can clear that up for you. Someday, maybe a mod will as well?...cough cough.
I would have had a more in depth conversation with you, but since I am just a dummy why waste your time?
All you've done is remove any consideration into your plight, and good job in having a super heavy handed cheerleader advocating your changes with an all encompassing nerf to scouts. We all know why but we'll just let that be the elephant in the room.
I couldn't have dismantled your position and argument better than you have yourself.
Calling it, you are adiphem. I wish there was a way for me to prove it though. Based solely on contents: being pedantic, argumentative, condescending, and more interested in personal disputes than the subject at hand. Pretty sure that circumventing a forum ban must be bannable too. C'est la vie.
So, unless you suddenly started to speak in latin at random times for some reason, colloqual usage of the term "ad hominem" is in reference to a logical fallacy in argument. The only reason someone would use that instead of "insult" I can think of is to cover the fact that they had been using it wrong all of this time.
To further my point, dummy doesn't necessarily have to be an insulting term, ala 30 Rock (dennis) or the flinstones or whatever. It is interchangeable with tiger, bud, pal, hotshot, man, dude, bro(and all variations of bro) or whatever.
Anyway, lets see if I can make a post relevant to the thread rather than just pure trolling (exactly what you have been doing).
One Eyed King wrote:
That isn't true. Scouts don't just slay. They infiltrate and hack.
Pre 1.8, I would often take several minutes to skirt the entire map, as close to the redline as possible, just to get to a far off CRU and/or objective to give my team a better chance, only to have someone spot me from 100 m or more away after all my effort and take me out in the blink of an eye.
Just because you don't see everything I do as a team mate, and only pay attention to the scouts that are killing you, doesn't mean that killing is the only scout role.
I don't end up on the top of leader boards with 10 kills or less because I everyone else is just that bad, there are other ways to score WP and win matches.
Just because you aren't abusing the scout suits, doesn't mean others aren't... and rest assured they are. Scouts are at the present time better slayers than all suits besides sentinels, you can see this in matches or ask CCP for metrics (I wish).
The fact of the matter is that scouts are better at killing than assaults, on top of everything else about them.... this seems kinda wrong, and reminiscent of slayer logis. You have to see this parralel right?
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poison Diego
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
456
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Posted - 2014.10.16 12:38:00 -
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Like the idea of negative effect on precision while cloaked. That is the best Idea I've heard so far
I give up
R.I.P ADS
getting more proficiency in the shotgun so I can kill every single f*ck I see using swarmlauncher
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CCP Frame
C C P
C C P Alliance
4384
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Posted - 2014.10.16 12:54:00 -
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Thread derailed all over the place. Locking it down. Rattati will come back to you if he finds something interesting to comment on. If so, he will make official thread regarding this. Thank you for your feedback so far guys.
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