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CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 3959	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:21:00 - [1] - Quote Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 378	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:25:00 - [2] - Quote I'll watch if you're going to execute him and the CPM live on air...
Minor Treat RisingSuns Dark Taboo 256	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:26:00 - [3] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. Many community members feel nervous because we fear Legion will replace dust 514. Dust is a console product which for many players is the only gaming platform they have. Touch on these topics and explain the future from there so players understand whats going on.
Skihids Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 3330	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:26:00 - [4] - Quote Your footprints are all over our backs.
HowDidThatTaste Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 4698	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:26:00 - [5] - Quote Laser focused on the PS3 I see.
dent 308 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2864	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:27:00 - [6] - Quote See : http://www.digitalspy.ca/gaming/news/a568488/dust-514-sees-no-planned-updates-scraps-survival-mode-and-vita-app.html#~oD85HUu2rTchw7 Many of us are not happy with the lobby shooter we have today, but have been waiting because of the promise of more. Now to see the build we have wanted going into a different product is less than enthralling. Rick : And remember, this gun is pointed right at your heart. Captain Renault : That is my least vulnerable spot.
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 529	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:27:00 - [7] - Quote No PVE means i quit
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2313	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:27:00 - [8] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. Currently there is not much you can do. Sorry. You messed up big time. You announced that way to early. Before you figured out what to do with Dust. What did you expect to happen? You announced the game you were promising us since 2009 again... for PC... with no concrete plans what you can give the Dust players who have supported you for years now. Heck. Had you at least that figured out the backlash wouldn't have been as severe. How are we supposed to react? Of course legion is only a project at the moment. But it's THE SAME project Dust is... or was. And you already told us that it gets some features you originally planned for Dust, which in turn won't get them anymore. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
CHANCEtheChAn 0uter.Heaven 78	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:27:00 - [9] - Quote 2 years 2 years, And all you came up with is a new game I need a new console (PC) to play. This fanfest This was supposed to be DUST 2.0 this was supposed to be player market This was supposed to be PvE This was supposed to be PC 2.0 This was supposed to be pilot suits and new game modes And yet, all I got from fan fest was This was all for nothing... Hmmm. The Meta is strong with this one...
XEROO COOL Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 919	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:28:00 - [10] - Quote This about sums it up sir! Xeroo.Cool on Skype. Kyle720 on PSN Since they effed this game up... I am waiting for Destiny on ps4 like you should be

Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 391	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:28:00 - [11] - Quote I think the thing you're missing is.. we're playing Dust, we would like some clarification on Dust. Dust not Legion. Dust. Geddit? Gottit? Good.
Isaa Quade Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 264	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:29:00 - [12] - Quote Don't you dare delete my comment again. I share the opinion with AT LEAST 70% of Dust players. Im not one of these idiots making death threats. Im venting frustration that everyone else has. If you don't like it, fix the problem.
NIETZCHES OVERMAN Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 9	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:29:00 - [13] - Quote Minor Treat wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. Many community members feel nervous because we fear Legion will replace dust 514. Dust is a console product which for many players is the only gaming platform they have. Touch on these topics and explain the future from there so players understand whats going on. A lot of us want to know what happens to the console Dust 514? Will Legion have features that Dust 514 won't have? If so how would you justify players to play the console product vs the Legion. Heres whats going on, we are being ******....
SgtNONECK WASSSUP Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 7	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:30:00 - [14] - Quote BUMP/ B E T A T E S T E R 5 1 4/CCP LIKES ****/BRAINLESS RETARDES
Justicar Karnellia Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 814	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:30:00 - [15] - Quote Saberwing this is really poor stuff. You should just go ahead and get him to answer one important question "Will dust players be able to transfer their characters to Legion".. that's pretty much it. Once we get an answer to that, I can guarantee you it will be determinant in deciding whether people continue playing Dust - which lets be realistic, will have no new content until it is shut down... maybe a stability or bug fix here and there... but considering all your development time has been on a new game, and will continue to be that way - please don't insult people's intelligence and don't ruin the crediblity that you still have by trying to say "oh we're still working on Dust" - if you'd been working on it, we would've seen something today... we didn't... so there's nothing to show, that is the bottom line. Some timelines would be nice too.
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 3528	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:30:00 - [16] - Quote Overview of legion: transfer dust to pc Add all the awesome stuff we've been promised PvE Pretty much counterweights the negative aspects imho. Hopefully characters can be transfered. LET LEGION RISE FROM THE DUST!!! The community is the worst thing that ever happened to this game Caldari Scout // specialized tank destroyer
Starlight Burner ROGUE RELICS 2	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:30:00 - [17] - Quote I will not be watching your livestream nor have any respect for your company as y'all have failed to represent us as a whole. I feel that we were cheated out of what we were promised, a game to last 10 years. (reposted without cuss words and in a more respectabledue to moderator removed previous post) Looking for people to play with, no proto-stompers and no squeakers. Looking for a serious CalFW group of players.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2872	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:30:00 - [18] - Quote Only thing I care about is legion for PS4 with character transfer. Anything else means absolutely nothing. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 5222	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:31:00 - [19] - Quote Not sure how this is clarifying anything.... Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2314	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:31:00 - [20] - Quote This isn't an answer to where our DUST keynote is. What are you bringing to DUST? You wasted our keynote on a prototype for a product that doesn't exist. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate

Isaa Quade Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 264	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:32:00 - [21] - Quote Cancel it
Jimmy McNaulty NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 90	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:32:00 - [22] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. Link? Or on the twitch feed?
Your Absolut End The Rainbow Effect Dirt Nap Squad. 447	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:33:00 - [23] - Quote Chartransfer or death to CCP! #legionbloodSacrifice Sure u guys dont know where legion is going since it took "all the good stuff from dust" and loks exactly and obvious plays exactly like Dust 514 just more polished. You better bring alot of towels to clean up the mess. If you don't have really good plans to calm the crowd and give the community fianlly the feeling you guys care about this game you honestly should go fvkk yourself with a burning cactus. Psn-id:alice-deh, add to stay in contact, and to make plans to shit in ccps mailbox
SgtNONECK WASSSUP Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 7	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:35:00 - [24] - Quote MAG 514
Spectre-M The Generals General Tso's Alliance 439	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:35:00 - [25] - Quote That's sounds wonderful. Transfer the vets over to the new game so they can ruin it on launch as well. That'll be great for NPE. If legion is not on PS4 as well, I'm out. Amarr Factional Warfare Loyalist Minnmatar in Amarr Armor I am a Wolf in Sheeps Clothing
Delanus Turgias Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 470	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:35:00 - [26] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: Overview of legion: transfer dust to pc Add all the awesome stuff we've been promised PvE Tons of happy players So... what are ye all waiting for? We're all thoroughly livid, you stupid little **, because the characters that some of us put TWO GODDAMN YEARS INTO ARE BEING *** SCRAPPED LIKE THEY NEVER EVEN EXISTED. OH, IT REQUIRES ME TO SHELL OUT $550-700 JUST TO BE ABLE TO PLAY YOUR GODDAMN SHINY NEW TOY? NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT THE GAME ISN'T EVEN *** CLOSE TO BEING LIKE EVE, IT'S JUST ANOTHER ** GODDAMN LOBBY SHOOTER, BUT NOW WITHOUT CHARACTER CUSTOMIZATION. YOU CCP. *** ** YOU IN THE ASS WITH A CACTUS, YOU GODDAMN SHITBAGS. Closed Beta Vet since April 2012 The Laser Rifle- Reach Out And Burn Slaves Proud owner of basically every BPO in Dust
SgtNONECK WASSSUP Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 7	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:36:00 - [27] - Quote DICKNOSE 514
Jebus McKing Sinister Souls 376	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:36:00 - [28] - Quote The only reason I kept playing Dust514 was because of all the things promised to us. We should've become a part of New Eden. But, no, plans have changed. Just OB Dust514 like you did in one of your videos. Will we gonna keep our progress if we actually make the switch to Legion? No solid answers. I'm gonna switch to Legion when Dust514 dies, but I'm gonna lose a lot of friends on my way and this is what makes me sad. @JebusMcKing // DUST514 is not done! Calm down and buy more Aurum! ò_Ô
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 399	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:36:00 - [29] - Quote So, all this means everything we'd been looking forward to isn't going to happen? PVE and such, the market place? Are we just going to get hotfixes until Legion is developed fully and Dust is dropped, or will a few new fun things still be introduced into the game? I love this game, but I honestly feel a bit crushed knowing there still don't seem to be any plans for the PS4 and that it seems like Dust is being all but abandoned. I want to see the game move forward as much as anyone, and for CCP to introduce the product they've been dreaming of, but that's a new arm, not the bandages that are needed now to save the one we have and love. Nova Knives are OP! Nerf em before you lose all your proto suits!
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 2885	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:36:00 - [30] - Quote You can't feed us these lies......some of us actually think. If Legion is simply a project then why has PVE and drones been discontinued on dust and will ONLY be implemented on Legion??? We all heard the dev say it at fanfest during Q&A. weRideNDie2getha since 2010

Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2316	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:37:00 - [31] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Only thing I care about is legion for PS4 with character transfer. Anything else means absolutely nothing. PS4 or PC doesn't matter at all. The only thing that matters is character transfer. If they can't accomplish Dust on PS3 then I have to accept it. I have no problem in switching to PC to finally see the game I was always waiting for. But I don't want to see the progress I made with my char during the last year to be in vain. I don't want to see the money I spent on Dust to turn into nothing because my character and his BPOs don't carry over. I don't want that to become nothing. I don't want to start at Zero again in Legion even though it's basically Dust 2.0. Or what Dust 2.0 should've been. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 3528	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:37:00 - [32] - Quote Your Absolut End wrote: Chartransfer or death to CCP! #legionbloodSacrifice Sure u guys dont know where legion is going since it took "all the good stuff from dust" and loks exactly and obvious plays exactly like Dust 514 just more polished. You better bring alot of towels to clean up the mess. If you don't have really good plans to calm the crowd and give the community fianlly the feeling you guys care about this game you honestly should go fvkk yourself with a burning cactus. Looks more polished and is still an early prototype. I think that says something about Dust's state. The community is the worst thing that ever happened to this game Caldari Scout // specialized tank destroyer
jeanmiaou MEN IN BLACK OPS Red Whines. 26	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:37:00 - [33] - Quote any things for a console game that we evolved is to leave it on console! why Legion is not on PS4? if not to disappear community console gamer?
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 2332	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:38:00 - [34] - Quote You basically said nothing about dust for the dust keynote. Then you reiterate that Legion is not Dust, but expect us to remain calm when all evidence points to nothing happening to the stagnating game.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8249	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:39:00 - [35] - Quote What do you need to clarify, instead of using your resources to add more to Dust like a player market, new vehicles, new game modes, and PVE, all of which would of definitely have been possible through iteration, you decided to use your resources to start over and on a platform that is inaccessible to a very large portion of the Dust community. What can you really do now? Amarr are the good guys.
prometheus actual Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 89	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:39:00 - [36] - Quote if legion was just a prototype, an idea then why make it the focal point of the "dust" keynote and "dust" progression? Furthermore, it seems that many game articles and magazines are reporting that there will be no more major development for dust. If that's the case, then why should the community not give up on the game? it's certainly feel that the developers have given up on the game.
LittleCuteBunny 464	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:39:00 - [37] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. I like the Project Legion, but I believe that supporting a developer company that turned its back on the core community that supported the project of Dust 514 for several years is just wrong. It is very hypocrite to ask the community to stay or even to continue supporting a product like Dust 514-«, additive intellectual property gathered from community is being used for other project and it was also made public in a live stream that such content will likely not be made available for Dust 514-«. Not only is CCP setting a precedent over console product development with a connection between platforms. It also sets precedents of its corporate ethics, endeavors, misguiding information and advertisement. A stain that might be difficult to erase. Graveyard 514 Project Legion is a different game, meaning nothing you do in Dust 514 will port to it.
RED-EYE -JEDI G0DS AM0NG MEN Dirt Nap Squad. 172	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:41:00 - [38] - Quote I don't even care if we cant transfer our characters. BUT only PC. NOT PS4. a lot of us dusters only use consoles because its easy to access and straight forward, no messing about. truth be told it does look good, but im only interested if its on PS4. hopefully CCP cant announce it for PS4, cos SONY have plans for E3 announcement Fingers crossed Forge Gun = Mechanised Hadouken
TheAntiSartey Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:41:00 - [39] - Quote So, when is this interview?
Commander Noctus DROID EXILES Proficiency V. 2	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:42:00 - [40] - Quote Honestly CCP, just tell us you're true feelings already instead of tiptoeing around it. You had a vision. You tried it on the PS3. Clearly it failed. You still have that vision but now are going to PC. Fine, great, good for you guys. But for God's sake, don't try and say "Well, we'll still support PS3." when all you really wanna do is make Legion. Splitting your dev team will make what could be your vision, Legion, into Dust 514 2.0 (ie, a terrible game that you'll ditch for the one game you haven't completely ruined: EVE).

Hairy Butter Fairy Fleet 3	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:42:00 - [41] - Quote Having two events back to back getting people to buy limited sale omega boosters, while you knew this was happening? Rounding it off with sale on Aur weapons, basically milking the **** out f of what you knew was "abandonware"? Alot of people who never bought things in free to play games (like me) bought to support my fave game company, same reason I have more eve accounts open then I need, because rl money is not an issue (so why not when it goes to support ccp) Its alot more about ccp practices leading up to this then the fact that they had to move on from the ps3, Its dishonest greed pure and simple. Its major disrespect, and while I dont care about money I do care about respect. The "Dust" keynote almost made me feel physically il, what disgusting clueless arrogance.
Stupid Blueberry Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 259	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:42:00 - [42] - Quote Delanus Turgias wrote: Flix Keptick wrote: Overview of legion: transfer dust to pc Add all the awesome stuff we've been promised PvE Tons of happy players So... what are ye all waiting for? We're all thoroughly livid, you stupid little **, because the characters that some of us put TWO GODDAMN YEARS INTO ARE BEING *** SCRAPPED LIKE THEY NEVER EVEN EXISTED. OH, IT REQUIRES ME TO SHELL OUT $550-700 JUST TO BE ABLE TO PLAY YOUR GODDAMN SHINY NEW TOY? NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT THE GAME ISN'T EVEN *** CLOSE TO BEING LIKE EVE, IT'S JUST ANOTHER ** GODDAMN LOBBY SHOOTER, BUT NOW WITHOUT CHARACTER CUSTOMIZATION. YOU CCP. *** ** YOU IN THE ASS WITH A CACTUS, YOU GODDAMN SHITBAGS. very creative. +1 Ishukone loyalist and Caldari Scout enthusiast. Nerf the CR so I can justify using something else!
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 1811	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:42:00 - [43] - Quote It's all about the character transfer for me to stay in this universe on Legion. Not sure what to say, CCP so you gotta make it happen somehow.... HTFU, and get to work. Double posting like a Kaiser.
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 3533	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:42:00 - [44] - Quote Delanus Turgias wrote: Flix Keptick wrote: Overview of legion: transfer dust to pc Add all the awesome stuff we've been promised PvE Tons of happy players So... what are ye all waiting for? We're all thoroughly livid, you stupid little **, because the characters that some of us put TWO GODDAMN YEARS INTO ARE BEING *** SCRAPPED LIKE THEY NEVER EVEN EXISTED. OH, IT REQUIRES ME TO SHELL OUT $550-700 JUST TO BE ABLE TO PLAY YOUR GODDAMN SHINY NEW TOY? NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT THE GAME ISN'T EVEN *** CLOSE TO BEING LIKE EVE, IT'S JUST ANOTHER ** GODDAMN LOBBY SHOOTER, BUT NOW WITHOUT CHARACTER CUSTOMIZATION. YOU CCP. *** YOU IN THE ASS WITH A CACTUS, YOU GODDAMN SHITBAGS. Oh? Because I don't also have millions of sp and isk too? May want to verify your sources before spewing , buddy. You have a console but not a computer? wtf do you live in, a cave? Besides, unlike console games computer games can be played on a WIDE range of computers, including that ** laptop you probably have lying around somewhere. Legion means that dust could expand into a better game and not be restricted by the decade old ps3's hardware. One last thing, may want to see a psychologist if losing a crappy and outdated game makes you flip ** like that. The community is the worst thing that ever happened to this game Caldari Scout // specialized tank destroyer
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1927	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:42:00 - [45] - Quote Who the FRAK cares about clarification about Legion, where's the information on DUST? You hyped up FF by stating "world first hands-on with the next major evolution of DUST", then didn't show a single thing about DUST at FF. You used the DUST KEYNOTE (as well as all the other presentations as well) to show of an entirely different game (per CCP Logibro) with no connection to DUST whatsoever. Not even that, but since Legion is a different game it's not a major evolution of DUST, which means you actually lied about showing the "next major evolution of DUST". Litterally ZERO DUST information was given at FF. Furthermore it is pretty clear to everyone that you only intend to keep DUST running as long as you can before moving all resources onto Legion instead. You have no desire to actually keep developing for DUST, which is just a big middle finger to all it's players. Good luck with Legion. You will need it as it's still going to be the same devs at your terrible Shanghai studio running it. Edit: Not to mention you robbing people in the past months with all these bait and switch SP events. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.
bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 935	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:43:00 - [46] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Only thing I care about is legion for PS4 with character transfer. Anything else means absolutely nothing. PS4 or PC doesn't matter at all. The only thing that matters is character transfer. If they can't accomplish Dust on PS3 then I have to accept it. I have no problem in switching to PC to finally see the game I was always waiting for. But I don't want to see the progress I made with my char during the last year to be in vain. I don't want to see the money I spent on Dust to turn into nothing because my character and his BPOs don't carry over. I don't want that to become nothing. I don't want to start at Zero again in Legion even though it's basically Dust 2.0. Or what Dust 2.0 should've been. QFT
The Willful Paradox Bragian Order Amarr Empire 6	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:43:00 - [47] - Quote Problem is, everything you promised us for Dust 514, is now magically not going to happen on Dust 514, but rather your new product. You've been hinting at PVE since last fan fest, and now we get this boot to the mouth basically stating that's a PC only thing now. You've been giving us FALSE hope, and many of us only stuck around because of that hope. Of course people are going to be mad. Soon TM = Never TM CCP to Dusters - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojydNb3Lrrs
Jebus McKing Sinister Souls 380	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:44:00 - [48] - Quote I was hyped for the DUST514 keynote. I wanted to see what is happening to DUST514. New content, player market, PC2.0, etc. But all I got was a ****** Pyrex video and a tech demo of a game that is not DUST514 and that is not gonna come out any time soon... @JebusMcKing // DUST514 is not done! Calm down and buy more Aurum! ò_Ô
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8255	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:45:00 - [49] - Quote Isaa Quade wrote: Cancel it If CCP had guts they would do this. Incarna all over again. Cancel Legion, get back to work on the PS3 until they added racial parity for vehicles, a game mode similar to Skirmish 1.0, player trading, and PVE. Then at that point start back up on Legion but this time make it PC and PS4. Though we all know that won't happen. Amarr are the good guys.
Joe Hadrian Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 0	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:45:00 - [50] - Quote Your Absolut End wrote: Chartransfer or death to CCP! #legionbloodSacrifice Sure u guys dont know where legion is going since it took "all the good stuff from dust" and loks exactly and obvious plays exactly like Dust 514 just more polished. You better bring alot of towels to clean up the mess. If you don't have really good plans to calm the crowd and give the community fianlly the feeling you guys care about this game you honestly should go fvkk yourself with a burning cactus. I guess the old axiom applys here...." you can put lipstick on a turd...its still dust"

Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 3533	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:46:00 - [51] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: Who the FRAK cares about clarification about Legion, where's the information on DUST? You hyped up FF by stating "world first hands-on with the next major evolution of DUST", then didn't show a single thing about DUST at FF. You used the DUST KEYNOTE (as well as all the other presentations as well) to show of an entirely different game (per CCP Logibro) with no connection to DUST whatsoever. Not even that, but since Legion is a different game it's not a major evolution of DUST, which means you actually lied about showing the "next major evolution of DUST". Litterally ZERO DUST information was given at FF. Furthermore it is pretty clear to everyone that you only intend to keep DUST running as long as you can before moving all resources onto Legion instead. You have no desire to actually keep developing for DUST, which is just a big middle finger to all it's players. Good luck with Legion. You will need it as it's still going to be the same devs at your terrible Shanghai studio running it. Edit: Not to mention you robbing people in the past months with all these bait and switch SP events. Considering that the games look exactly the same and that they used the dust keynote I'll assume that this is the next dust build, lol. Just renamed to get clients back (I don't think they give a damn about losing 2k dust players when they can get multiple thousands back) The community is the worst thing that ever happened to this game Caldari Scout // specialized tank destroyer
Iyllaria Dai Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 49	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:50:00 - [52] - Quote I agree with just about every sentiment so far. You guys have been promising us the same stuff you are now putting into a new game for the past 2+ years. Some of us have stuck with you as a loyal player in hopes to see what we have been promised, what you guys supposedly had dreamed and what we all had hoped would be a great companion to EvE. Now you guys screw us all with a new product and pretty much tell your support system that you don't give a rats ass about that, about the work we put in, about the hours we put in or anything like that. It's sad that instead of fixing one game, you guys decide to build another. Leaving a half ass finished product. If you can't finish one, what is to reassure us that you will finish this one? Not only that, but then you abandon those on console by moving it to PC. You already have a product on PC. The purpose with Dust was to bring in console players to the EvE Universe. Now you take that away yet again. Sadly I think CCP will lose a lot of loyal followers after this snafu. You have shown most of us that we don't matter, that we are just fodder and our voices and opinions and hours of hard work mean nothing.
Al the destroyer NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 110	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:51:00 - [53] - Quote You've decided to take time a resources away from dust to make a different game no player market in dust no PVE in dust if all you came out with was the player market in dust I would have been very happy with that but what you guys came up with is the biggest fail I could have imagined. I AM COMPLETELY DISSAPPONTED AND YOU HAVE PUT MY FIRE OUT BY PISSING ON ITwhat a shame what dust could have been Forge gun is fixed time to get me some drop ships ADS beware you have been warned.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4119	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:52:00 - [54] - Quote You just told us nothing CCP. You didn't answer any questions or give us any information. Sure, why the f*ck not?
SeeD A Dust Garden 16	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:52:00 - [55] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. By that post it feels like this to me: So how it relates to Dust 514? Is in early development ok. That means Dust earnings are being used to develop and improve/polish Legion(a better version of Dust)? Thats why we see little improvments/fixes in Dust? If Dust die just right now you will be unable to polish Legion and will be another just Dust514? Merc Log after FF 2014 Dust: Keynote of Death
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 3537	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:54:00 - [56] - Quote Iyllaria Dai wrote: I agree with just about every sentiment so far. You guys have been promising us the same stuff you are now putting into a new game for the past 2+ years. Some of us have stuck with you as a loyal player in hopes to see what we have been promised, what you guys supposedly had dreamed and what we all had hoped would be a great companion to EvE. Now you guys screw us all with a new product and pretty much tell your support system that you don't give a rats ass about that, about the work we put in, about the hours we put in or anything like that. It's sad that instead of fixing one game, you guys decide to build another. Leaving a half ass finished product. If you can't finish one, what is to reassure us that you will finish this one? Not only that, but then you abandon those on console by moving it to PC. You already have a product on PC. The purpose with Dust was to bring in console players to the EvE Universe. Now you take that away yet again. Sadly I think CCP will lose a lot of loyal followers after this snafu. You have shown most of us that we don't matter, that we are just fodder and our voices and opinions and hours of hard work mean nothing. Windows vista: dust 514 Windows 7: legion (hopefully) Tbh I'd just like for dust to be transfered to something other than the PS3 since it's holding the game back A LOT. Ps4 and computers have the same infrastructure so it would be perfect!!! If it's on PC it's bound to be on ps4. The community is the worst thing that ever happened to this game Caldari Scout // specialized tank destroyer
deezy dabest Warpoint Sharx 383	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:55:00 - [57] - Quote Well there is no link to the video so I will just say this. Do not try to defend Legion as something other than a replacement when you even said that you announced it there at fanfest because that is all CCP Shanghai has been working on. For all I care they can go the path of CCP Atlanta now and hopefully CCP as a whole follows the same path.
SeeD A Dust Garden 16	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:55:00 - [58] - Quote Iyllaria Dai wrote: I agree with just about every sentiment so far. You guys have been promising us the same stuff you are now putting into a new game for the past 2+ years. Some of us have stuck with you as a loyal player in hopes to see what we have been promised, what you guys supposedly had dreamed and what we all had hoped would be a great companion to EvE. Now you guys screw us all with a new product and pretty much tell your support system that you don't give a rats ass about that, about the work we put in, about the hours we put in or anything like that. It's sad that instead of fixing one game, you guys decide to build another. Leaving a half ass finished product. If you can't finish one, what is to reassure us that you will finish this one? Not only that, but then you abandon those on console by moving it to PC. You already have a product on PC. The purpose with Dust was to bring in console players to the EvE Universe. Now you take that away yet again. Sadly I think CCP will lose a lot of loyal followers after this snafu. You have shown most of us that we don't matter, that we are just fodder and our voices and opinions and hours of hard work mean nothing. I second this. Im not a follower of ccp anymore. They lost my respect. Merc Log after FF 2014 Dust: Keynote of Death
Andromeda Innu-kin 1	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:57:00 - [59] - Quote Justicar Karnellia wrote: Saberwing this is really poor stuff. You should just go ahead and get him to answer one important question "Will dust players be able to transfer their characters to Legion".. that's pretty much it. Once we get an answer to that, I can guarantee you it will be determinant in deciding whether people continue playing Dust - which lets be realistic, will have no new content until it is shut down... maybe a stability or bug fix here and there... but considering all your development time has been on a new game, and will continue to be that way - please don't insult people's intelligence and don't ruin the crediblity that you still have by trying to say "oh we're still working on Dust" - if you'd been working on it, we would've seen something today... we didn't... so there's nothing to show, that is the bottom line. Some timelines would be nice too. :( World Renowned Food Critic & Pizza Enthusiast :3
Starlight Burner ROGUE RELICS 4	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:01:00 - [60] - Quote ONCE AGAIN! Nothing..... Nothing... was talked about DUST 514. :'/ come the freak 3 years down the drain Looking for people to play with, no proto-stompers and no squeakers. Looking for a serious CalFW group of players.

Jack Kittinger Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 218	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:01:00 - [61] - Quote This is misleading and the fact that I dished out rl money for a product that is now on the back burner(read: the trash can) is irritating. You may be able to build another community in a different console but the relationship with the DUST playerbase is... broken When you throw away DUST, you are throwing away this community and ALL the feedback and trust that we put in your hands. Sure tell us to HTFU. I might as well go do that, only somewhere else. I hope you get what you deserve :), you've earned it! Proud winner of the 'Templar BPO Raffle' by Castor Crave!! Lucky Number 29
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 755	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:03:00 - [62] - Quote Using the Dust 514 keynote to announce a completely new project for a different game probably wasn't the best start. You do not have to be crazy to play here but we are willing to train you.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2332	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:03:00 - [63] - Quote My stream broke up after they said "We won't leave anyone behind" what did they say? Did thy say something about compensating us or was it the "Dust will continue" stuff? Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Isaa Quade Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 273	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:04:00 - [64] - Quote Not a single answer given
Starlight Burner ROGUE RELICS 4	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:05:00 - [65] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: My stream broke up after they said "We won't leave anyone behind" what did they say? Did thy say something about compensating us or was it the "Dust will continue" stuff? They said nothing about DUST. All they said was that Legion is the place to start now. Looking for people to play with, no proto-stompers and no squeakers. Looking for a serious CalFW group of players.
xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 124	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:06:00 - [66] - Quote Andromeda Innu-kin wrote: [quote=Justicar Karnellia]Saberwing this is really poor stuff. You should just go ahead and get him to answer one important question "Will dust players be able to transfer their characters to Legion".. that's pretty much it. Once we get an answer to that, I can guarantee you it will be determinant in deciding whether people continue playing Dust - which lets be realistic, will have no new content until it is shut down... maybe a stability or bug fix here and there... but considering all your development time has been on a new game, and will continue to be that way - please don't insult people's intelligence and don't ruin the crediblity that you still have by trying to say "oh we're still working on Dust" - if you'd been working on it, we would've seen something today... we didn't... so there's nothing to show, that is the bottom line. Some timelines would be nice too. That sums up everything in a nutshell. CCP just needs to admit it, and not rob people anymore of what we've been waiting 2 years for. Only to tell us that you've been working this games concept out of CONSOLE for some time now. I assume this "Legion" will be free to play as well? It's a really disgusting thing to not give a clear answer (Only those who read between lines can understand CCP's message) and continue to lead people along all the while taking REAL life CURRENCY from REAL people towards impending DOOM. Classy CCP you spat in DUST's face by doing this to us at Fanfest. I'm disgusted to even respect the fact you guys went and made this game. You took peoples money by creating an incredibly flawed game while giving people the reassurance that DUST & CONSOLE would be the marriage, that this game would get better, by leading us on in the forums and through other forms of media that pertains to this game. Once again I say to present this blatant disrespect at FF of all places for the community to witness was purely an unprofessional move business side and now everyone in EVE & DUST know that you scammed your consumer. Disgusting... *I LOGI LIKE I GIVE A FLUX* \|Director of Fatal Absolution\| \|Ringer Hub Creator\| Skype: xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx
reaper jt Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 10	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:07:00 - [67] - Quote I might get a lot of hate for this but im going to say it. CCP its to late to try to damage control this whole thing has been nothing but a mess. First you ditched your eve players to put dust on ps3 once everything cooled down and it was excepted you hyped the game up. Promised pve space elevators how your or focused on the ps3. I have spend 100 dollars on this game to support development for a ten year life cycle in hopes it would get better. You delay these major areas of the game but still saying we are committed to ps3 these will be coming. After many broken promises witch as a community most of us were nott thrilled be we understood it was a massive project not everything will be on time. To top it off you gave no hints this was going to happen you did not discuss this with the community you instead you named it dust keynote but instead talked about project legion and how all of the things you promised were going to be in dust 514 now were not and are going to be in project legion. And you may say oh we still have a development team on dust no its a skeleton crew your arent worried about dust anymore. First of all you say you wanted to bridge consoles and pc now your switching of the ps3 was not powerful enough why not wait for the ps4 why even go through all of this and just from the start say dust will be pc only. Honestly yes betteer textuers lighting smoother game play ect but you have lost a lot of trust with us. I for one will be deleting dust off my ps3 and will be un subbing to eve. Why? well its not because im mad and want to take it out on you its the fact that i have lost all trust in you i hope you fix this the situation maybe awhile from now ill reactivate my eve sub and try legion but there is no excuse for what has happend and what happened with the keynote
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 816	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:07:00 - [68] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. and yet theres not one mention of dust 514 in that quote. we want to know about dust. not legion. we know plenty about legion because its all you talked about during the dust keynote. we want to know what the plans for dust are. not legion whats happening to dust. not legion. all your doing is talking about legion and it gives the impression dust has completely been swept under the rug. also id watch the live interview with him but it costs 5$ to watch past videos since i probably missed it. Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 2010	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:10:00 - [69] - Quote My question is: why not prioritize PS4 instead of PC? From the video you have showed it looks like a game that can run on a PS4 system. PS3 players will more likely pass to PS4 than to PC and Dust514 is on PS3 afterall, right now most of the community feel betrayed. The unnamed new build it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes.. Bròt Ninè
Yan Darn Science For Death Final Resolution. 764	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:11:00 - [70] - Quote Commander Noctus wrote: Honestly CCP, just tell us you're true feelings already instead of tiptoeing around it. You had a vision. You tried it on the PS3. Clearly it failed. You still have that vision but now are going to PC. Fine, great, good for you guys. But for God's sake, don't try and say "Well, we'll still support PS3." when all you really wanna do is make Legion. Splitting your dev team will make what could be your vision, Legion, into Dust 514 2.0 (ie, a terrible game that you'll ditch for the one game you haven't completely ruined: EVE). I can understand if no one from CCP is reading this thread now, but if you are - really honesty is the best policy here. I imagine there is pressure to carefully 'blow on the embers' by implying there is some kind of real development in the future of Dust, so that you get some kind of financial return on it. However, I can only advise, that in the long term it will hurt the CCP brand to make such a move - I think you are well aware that info travels fast and is not easily forgotten these days. I don't believe you have the kind of financial 'robustness' that companies like EA does, to just bulldoze through bad press and illwill. It makes sense that you would want to try and expand beyond EVE and not every attempt will have success - just be honest about failures and try not to burn too many bridges along the way. The Ghost of Bravo

Ducttape Tinker Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 19	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:13:00 - [71] - Quote You basicaly screw it BIG TIME. This, what i saw on presentation, should be our dust. You just put another name on it (for legal action i presume), make it in better graphix and put our ideas on it and push it for PC. Great job, this is how CCP is lazer pointed and how they "love" ps3 community. This should be our game, now i feel after whole that time like guinea pig. Nicely done, shame on you. Just liars and thiefs. Nothing else. "Just return back to see how this dust falling in to rust."
reaper jt Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 13	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:13:00 - [72] - Quote shaman oga wrote: My question is: why not prioritize PS4 instead of PC? From the video you have showed it looks like a game that can run on a PS4 system. PS3 players will more likely pass to PS4 than to PC and Dust514 is on PS3 afterall, right now most of the community feel betrayed. to add that the ps4 is selling amazingly with he hardware theres much room for improvement and really bringing together pc and console. Honestly tho i think all we can do is stand as a community and wait for a response a legitimate one at that it would have been much better with some communication to us about plans but nothing untill now.
stalin93 Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 6	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:15:00 - [73] - Quote your post about clarification contains surprisingly little clarification
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 325	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:17:00 - [74] - Quote Two things: - The stream decided to go black during the character transfer question - Is there an answer to the business model of Legion? I personally like Legion. I would have loved the announcement and I think the skill tree is awesome. What infuriates me, though, is how all signs are now pointing to Dust being abandoned. "We will develop it further" and "Legion is just a prototype" my ass. It's obvious that you are using business speak to pretend that Dust will have a future, to prevent it from instantly losing the entire playerbase. Your presentations had jack ** about Dust. You said the "progression" keynote was about Dust and Legion, but then clarified that it was only Legion. That's just a blatant attempt at throwing us off. If you want to redeem yourself and actually mean it with the "we will still support Dust and don't halt development" stuff, you have one chance. Give us a roadmap with rough deadlines. And then add videos/screenshots for some of the features that you are working on.** THEN I will be able to trust you.
Grimmiers 514	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:19:00 - [75] - Quote I cooled down and I'm happy dust is coming to pc for everyone waiting on that, but to my knowledge there's nothing coming to dust in the near future. My expectations were low when it came to getting some new info on the player market/trading, changes to bpos, and maybe a new game mode and we get basically nothing.
Zylahra StormRazor Yada Industries 11	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:20:00 - [76] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. Seriously??? "Becoming more understanding??????" Are you out of your ***** mind????????? If you had just come out at the get go and said "Ok... Dust 514 wasn't as successful as we hoped and now we are looking into ways to expand it into a new project for PC and maybe later next gen consoles." then maybe... just MAYBE we would actually be encouraged by what we saw and be more understanding. But you didn't FFS!!! You duped us with it being a "Dust 514 Keynote" and it wasn't even really about Dust! So how would that make you feel if you had NO IDEA about what was going on? It would alienate you from the get go! I think what you are doing looks awesome... no doubt about it. That is not the issue with it at all... its the whole way you handled it and basically gave your Dust 514 players a brush off as if we are of no further consequence because of the new project. THAT is what has me completely *** pissed along with a bunch of other Dust players as well. So THAT is the heart of the issue... not the look of it... but the way it was handled... nothing else. Not that I should be surprised with the track record of CCP dropping the ball in similar ways over the years. Anyways... seriously get your *** ** straight before you come out and do something like this again. Idiots!
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 819	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:22:00 - [77] - Quote and thats the wrong way to reply above me Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 535	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:23:00 - [78] - Quote ccp u @$$holes are lucky im not in Iceland
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 5104	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:23:00 - [79] - Quote Happy Violentime wrote: I'll watch if you're going to execute him and the CPM live on air... The CPM had no power in this. They were, in fact, ignored when they suggested CCP announce this far sooner. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Thrydwulf Khodan 92	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:23:00 - [80] - Quote The argument that moving to a PC is a better dev environment is rather... Odd. Working with a PS4 or XB One and understanding that you have X hardware and optimizing your performance for that point means you have known performance targets. Adding the variability of end user computers and performance for an FPS seems like saying "I'm better off baking a whole cookbook worth of cookies and that will be better than just choosing two or three recipes from the cook book and perfecting on them" While the argument that developing for multiple different platforms is nice in theory ... The PC market for gaming has insane amounts of performance variability. The only potential that I can see is that you have a larger potential playerbase. But in a multi-year lead up? Sure. We know that Dust has issues and that starting "fresh" may be needed. A "reboot" so to speak could be handled inside the Dust 514 meta. But the console players, the ones who don't play on PC's and don't do FPS games on the PC feel like hey are left by the side of the road. Their tracks in the sand lost in the sands of time. Doing dev work on PCs? Sure that's expected. But you could have been doing similar on the PS4 ... Or the XB One. And right now... The Dust side of Eve is burning. Figure out the forward plan and communicate our path forward for Console players. Because a PC game is not a path forward for console gamers.

Brutal BRUTAS Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad. 5	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:23:00 - [81] - Quote i could go thru using the quote button to agree with the rest of the community, but its more easily summed up by saying that this BS is simply sickening, like most other veterans ive spent time and money on this POS thinking it will get better, only to find out that it was one big beta for a fu#*!ng PC game. disgusting ccp..... "Join my fan club"
Booker DaFooker Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 199	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:25:00 - [82] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: Overview of legion: transfer dust to pc Add all the awesome stuff we've been promised PvE Pretty much counterweights the negative aspects imho. Hopefully characters can be transfered. LET LEGION RISE FROM THE DUST!!! Edit: since some people don't get it I'll put this here. Pc and Ps4 have the same infrastructure, this means that they can both run the exact same games (lowered performance on the ps4 I guess). Basically, having it on pc means that it would most likely ALSO be on Ps4. At last someone else gets it Even Dust 514 is developed ON PC's This is the same dev process they would need to follow whatever platform they were developing for and ccp praetorian just pretty much confirmed this at fanfest Bullshit Baffles Brains
Zcynx Rivera S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 29	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:25:00 - [83] - Quote Keep feeding us lies just so you can take a couple more months of hard earned cash from our pockets to fund YOUR game and leave the "lore and visions" for someone who likes to get scammed without remorse. Bann me for all I care. It doesn't matter at this point.
Victoria Amarrus Yada Industries 14	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:26:00 - [84] - Quote oops replied to wrong post
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2336	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:27:00 - [85] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. and yet theres not one mention of dust 514 in that quote. we want to know about dust. not legion. we know plenty about legion because its all you talked about during the dust keynote. we want to know what the plans for dust are. not legion whats happening to dust. not legion. all your doing is talking about legion and it gives the impression dust has completely been swept under the rug. also id watch the live interview with him but it costs 5$ to watch past videos since i probably missed it. Dust is done for. That's pretty obvious. The only thing we can hope for now is for our chars to transfer over to Legion. And CCP doesn't want to give a clear answer on that currently. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 819	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:28:00 - [86] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Happy Violentime wrote: I'll watch if you're going to execute him and the CPM live on air... The CPM had no power in this. They were, in fact, ignored when they suggested CCP announce this far sooner. though its worth noting they remained quiet when they could have leaked it anonymously. nda or not their responsibility is to the players Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
reaper jt Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 16	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:28:00 - [87] - Quote Booker DaFooker wrote: Flix Keptick wrote: Overview of legion: transfer dust to pc Add all the awesome stuff we've been promised PvE Pretty much counterweights the negative aspects imho. Hopefully characters can be transfered. LET LEGION RISE FROM THE DUST!!! Edit: since some people don't get it I'll put this here. Pc and Ps4 have the same infrastructure, this means that they can both run the exact same games (lowered performance on the ps4 I guess). Basically, having it on pc means that it would most likely ALSO be on Ps4. At last someone else gets it Even Dust 514 is developed ON PC's This is the same dev process they would need to follow whatever platform they were developing for and ccp praetorian just pretty much confirmed this at fanfest No its the way ccp as gone about this is why we are mad trust has been broken here there were much better ways to do this talking to the community not holding a dust keynote and turn around and talk about legion.
Brutal BRUTAS Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad. 6	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:28:00 - [88] - Quote bring out limited time offer omega boosters or some stupid sp competition that will shut us up and squeeze you some more cash out of the dead game "Join my fan club"
Zylahra StormRazor Yada Industries 12	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:29:00 - [89] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: and thats the wrong way to reply above me Why is it the wrong way? Because its not your way? I have a right to express my opinion and right now my opinion is: I AM ******* PISSED!!! Deal with it!
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 3544	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:31:00 - [90] - Quote I don't care if it's a new game with a new name. It look, feels, has the same lore and runs on better machines than dust. Seriously, it still dust, except better. I don't get why people are freaking out so much. The community is the worst thing that ever happened to this game Caldari Scout // specialized tank destroyer

LOADED'HORN KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 70	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:33:00 - [91] - Quote @ CCP eve tards. I'm shocked at the management of this issue. Your liars scammers and thieves. Typical eve cunts. Open beta vet. I look, listen and learn before I run my mouth. You should to.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 6047	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:33:00 - [92] - Quote I'm just wondering why I feel so numb, there should be overwhelming rage, but I feel nothing. Perhaps in the back of my mind I knew this was coming. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 822	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:34:00 - [93] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: I'm just wondering why I feel so numb, there should be overwhelming rage, but I feel nothing. Perhaps in the back of my mind I knew this was coming. at least we get a new verb. they incarna'd us. edit: i like "ambulated" better. say that in your head when your reading it. they ambulated us. yeah, thats goooood mmm. Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
crazy space 1 GunFall Mobilization 2308	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:35:00 - [94] - Quote That's not an answer. - What does the dev blog mean by both games will be supported? -At Eve Vegas when people asked for Dust to move to PC the devs said "No, we are laser focuses on Ps3" -What is next for Dust 514? You have announced NOTHING.
Bubbles moon Algintal Core Gallente Federation 48	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:37:00 - [95] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: I don't care if it's a new game with a new name. It look, feels, has the same lore and runs on better machines than dust. Seriously, it still dust, except better. I don't get why people are freaking out so much. Because both games are going to continue to run side by side and compete with each toher? Because we waited months to see whats coming next for Dust 514, and we find out PvE, the player market, player trading, and such are never coming to dust ever. 6 months ago at Eve Vegas they said they were laser focused on PS3. I would rather have the game on PC, but with the same name, and why would they change the skill system and rebuild everything from the ground up. O.o
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2340	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:37:00 - [96] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: I don't care if it's a new game with a new name. It look, feels, has the same lore and runs on better machines than dust. Seriously, it still dust, except better. I don't get why people are freaking out so much. Looks like, feels like, has the same lore, uses the same assets, is played on the same maps and promises the same stuff Dust promised 5 years ago when it was announced... We freak out so much because our chars aren't save. Legion is basically Dust 2.0 and we won't keep our SP, assets or BPOs. Stuff many of us paid for! Heck: I used up about 170 bucks to buy SP boosters. And now all of that won't carry over? That's why so many of us are freaking out. It's not about the game. Legion looks great. It's about how CCP screws our current progress over and all the time and money we invested on getting there. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 3544	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:38:00 - [97] - Quote reaper jt wrote: Booker DaFooker wrote: Flix Keptick wrote: Overview of legion: transfer dust to pc Add all the awesome stuff we've been promised PvE Pretty much counterweights the negative aspects imho. Hopefully characters can be transfered. LET LEGION RISE FROM THE DUST!!! Edit: since some people don't get it I'll put this here. Pc and Ps4 have the same infrastructure, this means that they can both run the exact same games (lowered performance on the ps4 I guess). Basically, having it on pc means that it would most likely ALSO be on Ps4. At last someone else gets it Even Dust 514 is developed ON PC's This is the same dev process they would need to follow whatever platform they were developing for and ccp praetorian just pretty much confirmed this at fanfest No its the way ccp as gone about this is why we are mad trust has been broken here there were much better ways to do this talking to the community not holding a dust keynote and turn around and talk about legion. Then to say we dont know if we can transfer sp ect . Listen here are quick specs of the two computers i own Gpu gtx 680 Intel Core i7-4770K Haswell 3.5GHz 8 gigs of ram windows 7 64 bit. Second 2 gtx 780s amd 8 core 8350 16 gigs of ram windows 7 64 bit. So its not that i dont have a computer to play it hell low end machines with lower settings and restitution could play it. But What i am saying is the way they went about it was well no other way to put it the worst then to say oh no character transfers then oh we dont know. I think tho everyone wantas a legitimate response from ccp well, it's basically an updated dust. I don't see what the problem is. The community is the worst thing that ever happened to this game Caldari Scout // specialized tank destroyer
Seamie Schmoove Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 156	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:38:00 - [98] - Quote CCP can't backpeddle fast enough to rescue this... To say that today was a PR disaster for them is quite an understatement. Playing the game badly since Replication
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 3545	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:39:00 - [99] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Flix Keptick wrote: I don't care if it's a new game with a new name. It look, feels, has the same lore and runs on better machines than dust. Seriously, it still dust, except better. I don't get why people are freaking out so much. Looks like, feels like, has the same lore, uses the same assets, is played on the same maps and promises the same stuff Dust promised 5 years ago when it was announced... We freak out so much because our chars aren't save. Legion is basically Dust 2.0 and we won't keep our SP, assets or BPOs. Stuff many of us paid for! Heck: I used up about 170 bucks to buy SP boosters. And now all of that won't carry over? That's why so many of us are freaking out. It's not about the game. Legion looks great. It's about how CCP screws our current progress over and all the time and money we invested on getting there. True, but it's not like they said a definitive no. The answer is just maybeGäó The community is the worst thing that ever happened to this game Caldari Scout // specialized tank destroyer
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 824	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:40:00 - [100] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: reaper jt wrote: Booker DaFooker wrote: Flix Keptick wrote: Overview of legion: transfer dust to pc Add all the awesome stuff we've been promised PvE Pretty much counterweights the negative aspects imho. Hopefully characters can be transfered. LET LEGION RISE FROM THE DUST!!! Edit: since some people don't get it I'll put this here. Pc and Ps4 have the same infrastructure, this means that they can both run the exact same games (lowered performance on the ps4 I guess). Basically, having it on pc means that it would most likely ALSO be on Ps4. At last someone else gets it Even Dust 514 is developed ON PC's This is the same dev process they would need to follow whatever platform they were developing for and ccp praetorian just pretty much confirmed this at fanfest No its the way ccp as gone about this is why we are mad trust has been broken here there were much better ways to do this talking to the community not holding a dust keynote and turn around and talk about legion. Then to say we dont know if we can transfer sp ect . Listen here are quick specs of the two computers i own Gpu gtx 680 Intel Core i7-4770K Haswell 3.5GHz 8 gigs of ram windows 7 64 bit. Second 2 gtx 780s amd 8 core 8350 16 gigs of ram windows 7 64 bit. So its not that i dont have a computer to play it hell low end machines with lower settings and restitution could play it. But What i am saying is the way they went about it was well no other way to put it the worst then to say oh no character transfers then oh we dont know. I think tho everyone wantas a legitimate response from ccp well, it's basically an updated dust. I don't see what the problem is. the problem is ccp lied, brushed us under the rug at fanfest and is ignoring us now that they they have a new family called legion and they dont want to be our family anymore were an orphan game now Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*

DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 13385	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:41:00 - [101] - Quote You've already admitted that DUST will NEVER live up to the vision you sold it on. Keep developing for it, by all means, but the cat is out of the bag and I for one won't waste much, if any, more time on it. My Music Videos & Fan Fiction Incubus, Gallente Proud
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2344	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:43:00 - [102] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: reaper jt wrote: Booker DaFooker wrote: Flix Keptick wrote: Overview of legion: transfer dust to pc Add all the awesome stuff we've been promised PvE Pretty much counterweights the negative aspects imho. Hopefully characters can be transfered. LET LEGION RISE FROM THE DUST!!! Edit: since some people don't get it I'll put this here. Pc and Ps4 have the same infrastructure, this means that they can both run the exact same games (lowered performance on the ps4 I guess). Basically, having it on pc means that it would most likely ALSO be on Ps4. At last someone else gets it Even Dust 514 is developed ON PC's This is the same dev process they would need to follow whatever platform they were developing for and ccp praetorian just pretty much confirmed this at fanfest No its the way ccp as gone about this is why we are mad trust has been broken here there were much better ways to do this talking to the community not holding a dust keynote and turn around and talk about legion. Then to say we dont know if we can transfer sp ect . Listen here are quick specs of the two computers i own Gpu gtx 680 Intel Core i7-4770K Haswell 3.5GHz 8 gigs of ram windows 7 64 bit. Second 2 gtx 780s amd 8 core 8350 16 gigs of ram windows 7 64 bit. So its not that i dont have a computer to play it hell low end machines with lower settings and restitution could play it. But What i am saying is the way they went about it was well no other way to put it the worst then to say oh no character transfers then oh we dont know. I think tho everyone wantas a legitimate response from ccp well, it's basically an updated dust. I don't see what the problem is. The problem is that we probably won't be able to transfer our characters to Legion and due to that all our money and time invested in Dust will be for nothing. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
IR Scifi Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy 156	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:43:00 - [103] - Quote Legion may be the most amazing thing in the universe but if it's not on a console that will shut out about 95% of my corp from playing it. If dust is going to be cannibalized for it I might as well go back to eve full time and save myself a lot of frustration (those industry changes sound mighty nice).
Levithunder Butt Hurt Try Hards Primus Federation 212	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:45:00 - [104] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. Flurry of excitement isn't the word I was thinking..... (-í° -£-û -í°) against my adversaries.
LEHON Xeon Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 525	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:48:00 - [105] - Quote Why don't we just say it the way it is Saberwing eh? CCP Shanghai has not spent any serious time working on Dust 514 in quite awhile now. That's why we had the disastrous 1.7 and 1.8 updates. For 1.7 you threw together a new bunch of vehicles while nerfing other aspects of the game into the ground which went unfixed for months. Then you all gave us the lies and excuses of why nothing was being done until 1.8 Then we finally arrive at the time 1.8 is supposed to come out and I hear all this bull **** about Chinese holidays and everything of why 1.8 took THREE MONTHS to be implemented. Then it finally arrives with a game breaking forge gun/skills bug which NONE OF YOU even thought of fixing for almost A MONTH AND A HALF despite the community's instance here in these forums about these issues!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Then as a final insult, you take all the suggestions that this community has given and wanted and provided for the last two years, turn around and put them into a whole different game that's completely inaccessible to a large portion of the community that GAVE ALL OF YOU THE INPUT IN THE FIRST PLACE while as a final slap you encourage all of us to buy more boosters because you're all "laser focused on the PS3 for the immediate future!!!! How in the hell is that an honest business structure??????? Now a very angry and Bitter Vet. CCP, you have further solidified my views that corporations are corrupt POS's.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2344	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:49:00 - [106] - Quote Turns out this guy was right: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=116442 Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1507	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:49:00 - [107] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. tell us why you've announced no development plan for dust. that's what we'd like to know. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
mollerz 3376	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:49:00 - [108] - Quote Saberwing, The only thing you need to know about being fair to your player base as you transition from dust to legion... It has to be developed for the PS4 or this whole thing is a non-starter. In addition: 1) Toon name preservation and SP transfer. 2) BPO equivalent transfer. 3) Equipment equivalent transfer or payout in ISK. 4) Fractional ISK transfer. 5) Aurum transfer. If you can't accomplish that, why would any player ever trust your products with their time and money. We supported this game and stuck with it based on the promise of a ten year plan. You are making massive massive mistakes. It is hard for me to comprehend you aren't seeing how bad you guys pwn3d your community. You didn't just harm your community. You nuked it. And you are telling me you did this unwittingly?! You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Levithunder Butt Hurt Try Hards Primus Federation 214	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:52:00 - [109] - Quote We are patience for 2 and a half months and we watch fanfest and there isn't even a date for the next update? they should rename the game "Get Distracted easily 514" you do know destiny will be on ps3??!?!? If they can do it on a console why are you to good to move some if not most to a PC version? (-í° -£-û -í°) against my adversaries.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3667	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:52:00 - [110] - Quote low genius wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. tell us why you've announced no development plan for dust. that's what we'd like to know. They did provide details on Dust plans If you read the article, it will tell you what you need to know about Dust going forward Level 3 Forum Warrior

Big Popa Smurff The Rainbow Effect Dirt Nap Squad. 1022	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:53:00 - [111] - Quote you'v just made 5,000 enemies in a single day CCP. thats gotta be a record. thought not one anyone would be proud of... Original AFK Hunter
NAV HIV Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 1748	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:55:00 - [112] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. Just need an answer to one very simple question. - PC only or PC and PS4 I will not waste my time and money if it's PC only to get treated like this again two years down the road.
Kev Crow Bragian Order Amarr Empire 29	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:56:00 - [113] - Quote CCP has failed with DUST on PS3 big time, there is no way of announcing/admitting it without braking some eggs and pissing people off. I for one could see this coming for a while now and that is why I stopped playing. Now I can breath out and say FINALLY! I see no real reason for rage, well not unless you have some personal anger issues you have been suppressing and want to simply vent here. In such a case go for it. After all, this is a perfect topic and opportunity For those of you who have not yet crossed over to the dark side I see it like this: DUST on PS3 lives on until the new game for PC and hopefully for PS4 ( which is not such a stretch to imagine) is ready. Then we migrate or not. Obviously figuring out the how and when will take time. I am happy we finally know the what and that there is some new future for this dying concept.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1507	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:56:00 - [114] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. translation: dust is a fossil. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
Booker DaFooker Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 203	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:57:00 - [115] - Quote reaper jt wrote: Booker DaFooker wrote: Flix Keptick wrote: Overview of legion: transfer dust to pc Add all the awesome stuff we've been promised PvE Pretty much counterweights the negative aspects imho. Hopefully characters can be transfered. LET LEGION RISE FROM THE DUST!!! Edit: since some people don't get it I'll put this here. Pc and Ps4 have the same infrastructure, this means that they can both run the exact same games (lowered performance on the ps4 I guess). Basically, having it on pc means that it would most likely ALSO be on Ps4. At last someone else gets it Even Dust 514 is developed ON PC's This is the same dev process they would need to follow whatever platform they were developing for and ccp praetorian just pretty much confirmed this at fanfest No its the way ccp as gone about this is why we are mad trust has been broken here there were much better ways to do this talking to the community not holding a dust keynote and turn around and talk about legion. Then to say we dont know if we can transfer sp ect . Listen here are quick specs of the two computers i own Gpu gtx 680 Intel Core i7-4770K Haswell 3.5GHz 8 gigs of ram windows 7 64 bit. Second 2 gtx 780s amd 8 core 8350 16 gigs of ram windows 7 64 bit. So its not that i dont have a computer to play it hell low end machines with lower settings and restitution could play it. But What i am saying is the way they went about it was well no other way to put it the worst then to say oh no character transfers then oh we dont know. I think tho everyone wantas a legitimate response from ccp Absolutely totally and utterly agree with you, the manner of the release of this news sucked very hard, cant imagine the board meeting where this was discussed and was thought a great idea!! But once the rage settles (it is still bubbling) there are chinks of light and some belated clarifications appearing here and there which I am clinging on to like grim death! Rouge says your New Eden footprint is a priority whenever the game moves to a new platform CCP Praetorian stated that PC development is the way to realise the vision for Dust for any platform, not just PC Bullshit Baffles Brains
Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command 486	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:58:00 - [116] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums... [snip!] What really aggravates me is that we've been told there would be no far-fetched maybe-probably announcements this year. Instead now you're backpedaling on everything just said during the keynote with the comment that it's all just a big maybe-probably in the far future while there is literally nothing about the direct future of Dust 514. I'm not even going to touch on the topic of more-or-less announcing the end of the active development of Dust 514 12 months after the official release. That is a bad move and you know it. I hope you are as ashamed of yourself as you deserve to be.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1511	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:58:00 - [117] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: low genius wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. tell us why you've announced no development plan for dust. that's what we'd like to know. They did provide details on Dust plans If you read the article, it will tell you what you need to know about Dust going forward it says: dust is not going forward. the team working on dust has been reassigned to legion. ccp is now just another battlefield/cod/kz clone. kill a title and start another one. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 165	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:01:00 - [118] - Quote Wow... Just wow... I honestly don't know what to feel right now. Legion looks great, just like I imagine dust 514 to be. But you have to realize that getting 0 (zero, nada, noll) info about (the PS3) Dust 514 on its own keynote was underwhelming at best, and an insult to most. Look, if you had presented "this is the future of Dust 514 (ps3)", and ohhhh by the way we are developing a enhanced PC (maybe PS4) version, you would not experience much of a backlash. The fact that the keynote was all about Legion (apart from the retrospective), and over in 25 minutes did not help. I hate the term "loyal customer", and I don't regret spending the money I have on Dust and EVE, since I have enjoyed both a lot (cudos to you CCP). However, unless there is some official statement about "some" benefits in Legion for old Dust players, I will not spend another dime (sadly). As always CCP, visions and goals 100%, execution 0%. Very exited about Legion, very very very disappointed about (the handling of) DUST 514.
Al the destroyer NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 113	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:01:00 - [119] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Flix Keptick wrote: I don't care if it's a new game with a new name. It look, feels, has the same lore and runs on better machines than dust. Seriously, it still dust, except better. I don't get why people are freaking out so much. Looks like, feels like, has the same lore, uses the same assets, is played on the same maps and promises the same stuff Dust promised 5 years ago when it was announced... We freak out so much because our chars aren't save. Legion is basically Dust 2.0 and we won't keep our SP, assets or BPOs. Stuff many of us paid for! Heck: I used up about 170 bucks to buy SP boosters. And now all of that won't carry over? That's why so many of us are freaking out. It's not about the game. Legion looks great. It's about how CCP screws our current progress over and all the time and money we invested on getting there. True, but it's not like they said a definitive no. The answer is just maybeGäó So they made an announcement without knowing if they will transfer characters BS I've spent hundreds on this game thinking it would be around for a while Forge gun is fixed time to get me some drop ships ADS beware you have been warned.
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 442	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:04:00 - [120] - Quote mollerz wrote: Saberwing, The only thing you need to know about being fair to your player base as you transition from dust to legion... It has to be developed for the PS4 or this whole thing is a non-starter. In addition: 1) Toon name preservation and SP transfer. 2) BPO equivalent transfer. 3) Equipment equivalent transfer or payout in ISK. 4) Fractional ISK transfer. 5) Aurum transfer. If you can't accomplish that, why would any player ever trust your products with their time and money. We supported this game and stuck with it based on the promise of a ten year plan. You are making massive massive mistakes. It is hard for me to comprehend you aren't seeing how bad you guys pwn3d your community. You didn't just harm your community. You nuked it. And you are telling me you did this unwittingly?! I have 3x10 year old Eve accounts, and my future involvement in New Eden hangs on the promise of a persistent mercenary. There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]

reaper jt Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 22	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:04:00 - [121] - Quote Booker DaFooker wrote: reaper jt wrote: Booker DaFooker wrote: Flix Keptick wrote: Overview of legion: transfer dust to pc Add all the awesome stuff we've been promised PvE Pretty much counterweights the negative aspects imho. Hopefully characters can be transfered. LET LEGION RISE FROM THE DUST!!! Edit: since some people don't get it I'll put this here. Pc and Ps4 have the same infrastructure, this means that they can both run the exact same games (lowered performance on the ps4 I guess). Basically, having it on pc means that it would most likely ALSO be on Ps4. At last someone else gets it Even Dust 514 is developed ON PC's This is the same dev process they would need to follow whatever platform they were developing for and ccp praetorian just pretty much confirmed this at fanfest No its the way ccp as gone about this is why we are mad trust has been broken here there were much better ways to do this talking to the community not holding a dust keynote and turn around and talk about legion. Then to say we dont know if we can transfer sp ect . Listen here are quick specs of the two computers i own Gpu gtx 680 Intel Core i7-4770K Haswell 3.5GHz 8 gigs of ram windows 7 64 bit. Second 2 gtx 780s amd 8 core 8350 16 gigs of ram windows 7 64 bit. So its not that i dont have a computer to play it hell low end machines with lower settings and restitution could play it. But What i am saying is the way they went about it was well no other way to put it the worst then to say oh no character transfers then oh we dont know. I think tho everyone wantas a legitimate response from ccp Absolutely totally and utterly agree with you, the manner of the release of this news sucked very hard, cant imagine the board meeting where this was discussed and was thought a great idea!! But once the rage settles (it is still bubbling) there are chinks of light and some belated clarifications appearing here and there which I am clinging on to like grim death! Rouge says your New Eden footprint is a priority whenever the game moves to a new platform CCP Praetorian stated that PC development is the way to realise the vision for Dust for any platform, not just PC Yes exactly i think we all need to agree yes the better hardware will do wonders for the game. But the lack of communication with the community very few details and the way they went about it was not good what so ever. But its great to see the dust community so passionate about the game. Alls we can do now is voice our opinions wait for a response and more details About the true state of dust 514 if its being left in the dust be honest about it more details on legion platforms ect character transfers straight up no bull crap answers. But yes important topics are chracter transfers isk sp ect and we need to know do you honestly legitimately plan to support dust 514 if so is there a road map we can see?
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2354	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:04:00 - [122] - Quote mollerz wrote: Saberwing, The only thing you need to know about being fair to your player base as you transition from dust to legion... It has to be developed for the PS4 or this whole thing is a non-starter. In addition: 1) Toon name preservation and SP transfer. 2) BPO equivalent transfer. 3) Equipment equivalent transfer or payout in ISK. 4) Fractional ISK transfer. 5) Aurum transfer. If you can't accomplish that, why would any player ever trust your products with their time and money. We supported this game and stuck with it based on the promise of a ten year plan. You are making massive massive mistakes. It is hard for me to comprehend you aren't seeing how bad you guys pwn3d your community. You didn't just harm your community. You nuked it. And you are telling me you did this unwittingly?! I don't care much about the PS4 version. I mean one of the reasons they switch to PC is basically because they have more freedom, can use a test server and don't have to get everything checked by Sony. All the other points I agree with. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
J3f3r20n Gh057 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 139	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:05:00 - [123] - Quote CCP guy1: "Hey, whta we'r going to do with Dust 514? We need to fix the game, implement PvE, Player Economy..." CCP guy2: "waitwaitwaitwait... WHAT? DUST 514? You mean, DUST 514? Seriously? What about we make some events that would make the fanboys spent money in it, and then simply fund a new game?" CCP guy3: "Are you seriously? A new game? What about we simply move Dust to PC and BAAAAAM, we add all those cool stuffs?" CCPguy1: "but we can't simply...." CCPguy3: "Of course we can, we are the devs ffs. Look lets face it, we can't implement all those cool stuffs on ps3, thats the fact...." CCPguy2: "But we can't simply port Dust to PC, Sony has..." CCPrandomGuy: "Forget about Sony...I have an idea....." //So, the other 3 guys stop and look to this guy// Dramatic stop, mistery in the air CCPrandomGuy: "Project Legion...A shinny new game 'based on' Dust 514" CCPanotherrandomguy: "THAT'S IT....Let's make this thing real" CCPrandomguy: "It's already being made...You know, we already started the project, but now we have the necessary fund to start it seriously" CCPguy1: "but what about all the Dust players?" CCPrandomguy: "They will understand..." CCPGuy1: "Nooo, they were fooled... played like..." CCPrandomguy: "They were part of THE PLAN.... Pawns in the game, but it was necessary... Sometimes we need to make some sacrifices, we need to play dirty to fulfil our purpouses..." To be continued.... And that's all folks, you
Al the destroyer NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 113	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:06:00 - [124] - Quote BTW what the hell is a footprint anyways? It sure as hell isn't the same thing as the original foot!!! WAKE up the bar of soap hit the floor and we were all stupid enough to pick it up and now I'm bleeding YOU FEEL ME Forge gun is fixed time to get me some drop ships ADS beware you have been warned.
Theex 1661 Gummibaerenbande 514 42	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:06:00 - [125] - Quote I dont know what to say to this whole mess... I'm just feeling sadness, anger and i'm deeply dissapointed in ccp. I'd probably switch over to PS4 if legion is coming for it. But if there is no character transfer i would quit ccp (games) forever. Wouldn't have the strengh to start over anyways....
Rizlax Yazzax Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 224	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:09:00 - [126] - Quote I agree with pretty much every single comment in this thread. Even though some of them were rage filled venting (understandable). I, like many others, have put a considerable amount of time and money into this game because we believed the potential. We believed CCP when they told us what was to come and the the vision they had. Basically announcing DUST is dead and all efforts are going to Legion, on a different platform, in a year, two, or maybe more was a kick in the teeth to us all. Especially after having two months of events and sales to get us to fork over more cash. I had faith in CCP after seeing what they have accomplished with EvE. After today that has been totally destroyed. I will still play as I enjoy the game, but I will not be spending another penny on this game from now on. I refuse to fund Legion (read "DUST 2.0"), even if it is confirmed that characters will be transferred. Should that news come, how can we trust you won't back pedal yet again and screw us over after taking more money handed over on false promises.
mollerz 3381	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:10:00 - [127] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: mollerz wrote: Saberwing, The only thing you need to know about being fair to your player base as you transition from dust to legion... It has to be developed for the PS4 or this whole thing is a non-starter. In addition: 1) Toon name preservation and SP transfer. 2) BPO equivalent transfer. 3) Equipment equivalent transfer or payout in ISK. 4) Fractional ISK transfer. 5) Aurum transfer. If you can't accomplish that, why would any player ever trust your products with their time and money. We supported this game and stuck with it based on the promise of a ten year plan. You are making massive massive mistakes. It is hard for me to comprehend you aren't seeing how bad you guys pwn3d your community. You didn't just harm your community. You nuked it. And you are telling me you did this unwittingly?! I don't care much about the PS4 version. I mean one of the reasons they switch to PC is basically because they have more freedom, can use a test server and don't have to get everything checked by Sony. All the other points I agree with. A) They do have a test server. It's just never properly used. The myth that there is no test server is blatantly false. B) Sony may have a couple of hurdles, but it is in no way an insurmountable set of hurdles. Basically it adds a couple steps to get us the updates. That is not a big deal. They already can update as well as hotfix patches. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Ducttape Tinker Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 25	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:11:00 - [128] - Quote F[u[c[k[ LEGION its basicalu DUST 2.0 nothing else the biggest scam after aliens colonial marines. CCP welcome in Randy Pitchfords shoes. "Just return back to see how this dust falling in to rust."
petko777 Jastrab keiretsu 0	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:13:00 - [129] - Quote I play both Eve online and Dust 514 , I spend lot time , some money ... But I thing it's time cancel my subscription . Dust was lots bugs but I like this FPS concept but I don't have time for new start . I mean its not problem in platform I own ps3/4 , PC , Mac like all ... CCP give community lots promises evolve Dust ... and merge with EVE ... I believe idea was for long run like EVE, WoW with strong communist not 1 year :(
Ankbar Latrommi S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 107	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:17:00 - [130] - Quote LittleCuteBunny wrote: Not only is CCP setting a precedent over console product development with a connection between platforms. It also sets precedents of its corporate ethics, endeavors, misguiding information and advertisement. A stain that might be difficult to erase. You mean like Hillmar(?) saying "Don't listen to what they{the players} say, just watch what they do."? Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning." Eve> FPS

sxspk Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:17:00 - [131] - Quote CHANCEtheChAn wrote: 2 years 2 years, And all you came up with is a new game I need a new console (PC) to play. This fanfest This was supposed to be DUST 2.0 this was supposed to be player market This was supposed to be PvE This was supposed to be PC 2.0 This was supposed to be pilot suits and new game modes And yet, all I got from fan fest was This was all for nothing... All we got was thank you for your time and donations.
crazy space 1 GunFall Mobilization 2309	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:21:00 - [132] - Quote And to think we were all worried about our BPOs being removed, ROFL.
Hairy Butter Fairy Fleet 28	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:22:00 - [133] - Quote Maybe someone should take Rouge and Saberwing aside for a moment, and explain to them the difference between the average Electronic Arts customer and the average CCP customer? And the pro's and con's of this?
Karl Koekwaus 205	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:24:00 - [134] - Quote This was a major kick in the balls of everyone that spend money and/or Time on Dust. But in proper CCP fashion, I guess we'll be seeing some new AURUM gear advertisements soon. as Marlona Sky said on the eve forums; Marlona Sky wrote: For those who don't realize it, the 514 was code for the expiration date for the game. 5-14... May 2014. Although I never spent money or a lot of time like some of you, I can't help but feel you guys massively wronged today. Now CCP, how do you explain the 10 year of support for Dust that was promised at launch, when people had doubts on launching a game on an aging console? and how are you going to deliver on that promise? All you say atm when you want to talk about Dust, is you're talking about Legion. Just like in the OP, you want to explain something yet you end up saying nothing. How hard is it to put up a bullet point list with what is going to be in dust and what not, so people can get their expectations right and plan accordingly. Micheal Jackson died for my sins
Renolissa RENOLUTION 1673	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:32:00 - [135] - Quote Only transfer can help CCP save player's in this universe... And many many fix fix fix .....
Ivan Avogadro Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1092	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:34:00 - [136] - Quote Is a dev going to reply to this at all? You guys started this thread. Is it just 7 pages of wasted space? Tell us something about DUST. You already wasted our keynote not preparing anything. Are you guys even surprised the community reacted this way? Were you expecting us to be happy about a new game exactly like the one we always wanted Dust to be? Ugarte: You are a very cynical person, Rick, if you'll forgive me for saying so. Rick: I forgive you.
crazy space 1 GunFall Mobilization 2312	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:35:00 - [137] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Flix Keptick wrote: I don't care if it's a new game with a new name. It look, feels, has the same lore and runs on better machines than dust. Seriously, it still dust, except better. I don't get why people are freaking out so much. Looks like, feels like, has the same lore, uses the same assets, is played on the same maps and promises the same stuff Dust promised 5 years ago when it was announced... We freak out so much because our chars aren't save. Legion is basically Dust 2.0 and we won't keep our SP, assets or BPOs. Stuff many of us paid for! Heck: I used up about 170 bucks to buy SP boosters. And now all of that won't carry over? That's why so many of us are freaking out. It's not about the game. Legion looks great. It's about how CCP screws our current progress over and all the time and money we invested on getting there. True, but it's not like they said a definitive no. The answer is just maybeGäó Nonsense, they said Dust will continue getting updates at the same time as Legion. Also they keep saying "If and When Legion is released" Meaning it's not even confirmed... But if it is confirmed they will be spiting development between both games... How can you have the same character in 2 actively supported games?
Karl Koekwaus 206	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:35:00 - [138] - Quote Renolissa wrote: Only transfer can help CCP save player's in this universe... And many many fix fix fix ..... Transfers won't help most people though. There are many people who carry a warm hearth towards the EVE universe as a SCI-Fi installment that started with Dust, but don't own a PC powerful enough to run a state of the art game. Micheal Jackson died for my sins
Jak'Saan Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 183	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:36:00 - [139] - Quote http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust Love how the graph is really picking up. That is the sign of a healthy game, even after 2 years! Interested to see what this will look like in the next few weeks.
VINGTHOR LYNN D3LTA FORC3 C0VEN 1	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:36:00 - [140] - Quote Kev Crow wrote: For those of you who have not yet crossed over to the dark side I see it like this: DUST on PS3 lives on until the new game for PC and hopefully for PS4 ( which is not such a stretch to imagine) is ready. Then we migrate or not. Obviously figuring out the how and when will take time. I am happy we finally know the what and that there is some new future for this dying concept. Agreed. Hopefully after heads cool a bit and people realise this is the new beginning we have been hoping for we can start some constructive player involvement to avoid old mistakes. As far as how "terribly" CCP announced it I think that once the "red mist" of internet rage grabs hold and all senses depart... CCP Rouge actually explained it very well in his blog for those who bothered to read it: "We realized we would never be able to do it by iteration, any more than one could overhaul the engines of a plane in flight" And what did you expect them to call this keynote? Legion Project keynote? After seeing this keynote and reading the blog its rather clear that Legion is the DUST v2.0

Ghural The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 197	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:37:00 - [141] - Quote Dust514 is going to continue as a seperate product eh? They why is that nothing at all was announced for Dust514 during the Dust keynote?
RKKR The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 919	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:37:00 - [142] - Quote Can we finally get an apology for all those made up LONG TIME-VISIONAIRY-ROADMAP-SOON(TM) plans?
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 763	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:37:00 - [143] - Quote Booker DaFooker wrote: reaper jt wrote: Booker DaFooker wrote: Flix Keptick wrote: Overview of legion: transfer dust to pc Add all the awesome stuff we've been promised PvE Pretty much counterweights the negative aspects imho. Hopefully characters can be transfered. LET LEGION RISE FROM THE DUST!!! Edit: since some people don't get it I'll put this here. Pc and Ps4 have the same infrastructure, this means that they can both run the exact same games (lowered performance on the ps4 I guess). Basically, having it on pc means that it would most likely ALSO be on Ps4. At last someone else gets it Even Dust 514 is developed ON PC's This is the same dev process they would need to follow whatever platform they were developing for and ccp praetorian just pretty much confirmed this at fanfest No its the way ccp as gone about this is why we are mad trust has been broken here there were much better ways to do this talking to the community not holding a dust keynote and turn around and talk about legion. Then to say we dont know if we can transfer sp ect . Listen here are quick specs of the two computers i own Gpu gtx 680 Intel Core i7-4770K Haswell 3.5GHz 8 gigs of ram windows 7 64 bit. Second 2 gtx 780s amd 8 core 8350 16 gigs of ram windows 7 64 bit. So its not that i dont have a computer to play it hell low end machines with lower settings and restitution could play it. But What i am saying is the way they went about it was well no other way to put it the worst then to say oh no character transfers then oh we dont know. I think tho everyone wantas a legitimate response from ccp Absolutely totally and utterly agree with you, the manner of the release of this news sucked very hard, cant imagine the board meeting where this was discussed and was thought a great idea!! But once the rage settles (it is still bubbling) there are chinks of light and some belated clarifications appearing here and there which I am clinging on to like grim death! Rouge says your New Eden footprint is a priority whenever the game moves to a new platform CCP Praetorian stated that PC development is the way to realise the vision for Dust for any platform, not just PC Sorry, not accepting vague statements at this point. CCP needs to be specific at this point otherwise I think Dust and its community will die long before Legion is released. You do not have to be crazy to play here but we are willing to train you.
MUDFLAPS McGILLICUTTY TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 165	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:41:00 - [144] - Quote #LASERFOCUSED "LASER-FOCUSED" Never forget 5/2/2014 Pro Tanker (Retired)
crazy space 1 GunFall Mobilization 2313	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:46:00 - [145] - Quote Ghural wrote: Dust514 is going to continue as a seperate product eh? They why is that nothing at all was announced for Dust514 during the Dust keynote? Yeah , that's why people are upset. A;; they announced about Dust at the keynote was "it will not be canceled, it will keep getting patches" -lack of player market or player to player trading was confrimed -the halo map perview table will never turn on lol
Renolissa RENOLUTION 1673	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:49:00 - [146] - Quote In any case, this is bad news, because I loved Dust514 the fact that it did so, threw him almost no innovation there, and meanwhile riveting new project. Why do we need Legion? Why not just do the game that we need? Why it is thrown? Why do we need a few years to pour Aurum on what may not be completed yet? I think all what we see in fanfest 2014 reminds me of Incarna...
AzzHole187 Da Short Buss RISE of LEGION 0	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:52:00 - [147] - Quote http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a568488/dust-514-sees-no-planned-updates-scraps-survival-mode-and-vita-app.html#~oD8Yk7RCdtp7VO this interview pretty much says it all
First Prophet Minmatar Republic 1537	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:54:00 - [148] - Quote So where's all this clarification? Users found this review helpful.
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 5106	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:55:00 - [149] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Happy Violentime wrote: I'll watch if you're going to execute him and the CPM live on air... The CPM had no power in this. They were, in fact, ignored when they suggested CCP announce this far sooner. though its worth noting they remained quiet when they could have leaked it anonymously. nda or not their responsibility is to the players Whatever, man. Breaching NDAs tends to **** you over for any future employment opportunities that require discretion. It is, after all, a form of contract. If you breach contract in one case, what's to stop you doing so in others? Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
smoking the kind RestlessSpirits 24	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:55:00 - [150] - Quote Hi, I have been playing with and against a lot of this community since M.A.G. and when Dust was announced for the ps3 I know we all saw the potential for what this game could be and as "loyal customers" we were looking forward to what this game could have been when we were told it was coming to the next gen Playstation. We put money towards this game because it was supposed to move forward and grow with the Playstation, and now that the ps4 is here you are abandoning your promises and the loyal Playstation customers that believed in you. It is kind of ironic that I probably feel like the eve players did when dust 514 wasn't announced for the PC in the first place. And how do the eve pilots that bought ps3's just to be loyal to ccp feel.

Poncho Polous The Phoenix Federation Caps and Mercs 258	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:56:00 - [151] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. SONY has already stepped in to run damage control on your INCREDIBLY stupid move. You don't just make CCP look like a failure here, you rub off on your superiors who have graciously allowed this POS game on their servers when Microsoft told you ** no. They have stepped in to refund the money that people have wasted on this product upon request, and I hope they rip every dollar I spent here from the cold dead hands of this game. You **** up beyond your wildest dreams here, and the funny part is you had months to think up a good action plan and this was the best you could come up with. If anyone else looks to get their money back from this 'gaming company' call 1-800-345-SONY and explain what CCP is doing here on SONY's console, they will return your money to your credit card or wallet, so that you might continue to spend that money on worth while SONY products. I've spent about $200 on my character here, and with that refund theres a handful of other games I can waste my day on. Good day CCP, you've got your work cut out for you if you EVER expect to recover from the damage you've just done. CEO The Phoenix Federation WE DA BUSSS!!!
Master Smurf Nos Nothi 416	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:57:00 - [152] - Quote This OP is a joke Is project Legion really just some exploration into whats possible? Will project Legion not materialize and Dust be made the lead project in the future? I thought the dev blog (or whatever its being called) by Rogue was quite clear. Please stop this and take it down. You are giving people that have blind faith in CCP the wrong message. Dust 514 is a PS3 client and has been deemed to be not good enough to fully expand on where CCP wants to go so it wont be the lead project and all the players need to know this. You should be trying to put out what little maybe coming to Dust 514 in the near future. Concrete features if any. This company handles so many things wrong. Please dont continue down that path with this OP. "Shine bright like a diamond"
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2369	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:59:00 - [153] - Quote Ghural wrote: Dust514 is going to continue as a seperate product eh? They why is that nothing at all was announced for Dust514 during the Dust keynote? Because https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUUDBJ86z8s Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Ender Storm Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 60	Posted - 2014.05.02 21:00:00 - [154] - Quote All this Doom and Gloom, what a waste of space. The thing is that Legion was just shown, it may not even become a Thing, they dont know what it will become. Its just like what EVE(R) was when shown and then become Valkirie and is still long ways to be released, it ever. Dust, besides the regular circle of development, surely has still a good 3-4 years to live, probably more considering Legion might be an entirelly diferent experience. Also, PS4 is just some dumbed down PC this generation. Developing is made on PC's. It being on PC today dosent mean it wont be on a PS4 tomorow. Its way to early to know anything. God, this community is awful and entitled.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1947	Posted - 2014.05.02 21:01:00 - [155] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Breaching NDAs tends to **** you over for any future employment opportunities that require discretion. It is, after all, a form of contract. If you breach contract in one case, what's to stop you doing so in others? The CPM didn't have to break any NDAs. They should've just resigned ASAP. It seems Cazaderon did exactly that since he seemed to not be at FF, and he's been posting hints on twitter about this FF not being good (I also recall him going crazy on twitter late last year, likely because he found out about Legion), but it seems CCP/the rest of CPM have succeded in keeping it a secret. If more of the CPM had done something similar they wouldn't have been able to downplay it and everyone would have known there would be trouble ahead. Props to Caz for apparently not sticking up with this. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.
Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2319	Posted - 2014.05.02 21:04:00 - [156] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. don't try to spin this ****... you lied to us and ripped us off... eff you ccp... eat my shite. this game makes me sad....
Zyrus Amalomyn Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 301	Posted - 2014.05.02 21:05:00 - [157] - Quote I love how everyone and their mother is being simplistic and forgetting just how old the PS3 is. The cold, hard truth, is that the PS3 was NEVER going to be good enough for what they were promising us. I knew it, and thousands of others knew it. Only the people in denial in this thread kept denying reality. This is the first news in months that made me respect CCP some. They can easily port Legion to the PS4 and actually get work done. I left back in Uprising because of the mouse issues, but this may make me play again. Thanks CCP, for making a game I might actually want to play. You can polish a turd, but it's still a turd, and that's what Dust 514 is.
Hairy Butter Fairy Fleet 31	Posted - 2014.05.02 21:10:00 - [158] - Quote VINGTHOR LYNN wrote: [quote=Kev Crow] Agreed. Hopefully after heads cool a bit and people realise this is the new beginning we have been hoping for we can start some constructive player involvement to avoid old mistakes. As far as how "terribly" CCP announced it I think that once the "red mist" of internet rage grabs hold - all senses depart... CCP Rouge actually explained it very well in his blog for those who bothered to read it: "We realized we would never be able to do it by iteration, any more than one could overhaul the engines of a plane in flight" And what did you expect them to call this keynote? Legion Project keynote? After seeing this keynote and reading the blog its rather clear that Legion is the DUST v2.0 The problem was the events and firesales obviously designed to get people to buy as much Aurum as possible before telling people this, It was very dishonest. Im pretty happy that Dust is moving to a more powerful platform and I dont think thats why people are pissed.
Karl Koekwaus 208	Posted - 2014.05.02 21:10:00 - [159] - Quote Ender Storm wrote: All this Doom and Gloom, what a waste of space. The thing is that Legion was just shown, it may not even become a Thing, they dont know what it will become. Its just like what EVE(R) was when shown and then become Valkirie and is still long ways to be released, it ever. Dust, besides the regular circle of development, surely has still a good 3-4 years to live, probably more considering Legion might be an entirelly diferent experience. Also, PS4 is just some dumbed down PC this generation. Developing is made on PC's. It being on PC today dosent mean it wont be on a PS4 tomorow. Its way to early to know anything. God, this community is awful and entitled. If Dust is getting so much dev love still, how come they didn't show any new Dust stuff at the Dust keynote, or the Dust Keynote Devblog or this thread? Instead they keep talking about how good Legion is going to be at THE Dust presentation of the year (after building up a lot of hype on the forums), devblog or game site interviews. If they came about and said; Dust is still alive and kicking and this, this and this is planned for the next release, a nice video with new mechanics nothing would be wrong. Seeing how they can't show any new dust stuff, doesn't speak in CCPs favor. Micheal Jackson died for my sins
Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2325	Posted - 2014.05.02 21:10:00 - [160] - Quote Zyrus Amalomyn wrote: I love how everyone and their mother is being simplistic and forgetting just how old the PS3 is. The cold, hard truth, is that the PS3 was NEVER going to be good enough for what they were promising us. I knew it, and thousands of others knew it. Only the people in denial in this thread kept denying reality. This is the first news in months that made me respect CCP some. They can easily port Legion to the PS4 and actually get work done. I left back in Uprising because of the mouse issues, but this may make me play again. Thanks CCP, for making a game I might actually want to play. You can polish a turd, but it's still a turd, and that's what Dust 514 is. ps4 was fine for it though.... meh why bother you ccp fanbois are hopeless go stick your d I c k in there new game and get f u c k ed somemore.... this game makes me sad....

Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 1033	Posted - 2014.05.02 21:13:00 - [161] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. What exactly is this supposed to clarify about Dust? Your game f'ing sucks, but I'll still play it.... damn you! Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
AlienPancakes Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 16	Posted - 2014.05.02 21:16:00 - [162] - Quote CCP is the most arrogant, unprofessional, and dim-witted development studio I've ever seen. You're constantly screwing your player base and you care nothing of it. I've been playing DUST 514 for years,always expecting the new updates to bring something worth-while, but it has so far never happened. The promises you don't break, you're extremely slow to act on, which I'd imagine is because you're all too busy in Iceland creating new projects while the ones you already have are BROKEN.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2744	Posted - 2014.05.02 21:32:00 - [163] - Quote So what does that mean for us? What does that mean tomthe thousands of mercenaries here in dust? Is that it? Ashes to Ashes, Dust to Dust? I had faith in you CCP, I defended against those who said otherwise and this, this is how you repay me, repay all of us? All of this forum fighting all of this squabbling for balance and improving this game, is for nothing? You have let us down CCP, you have let us all down, after everything we've been through! Bring what was going to be Legion to US those of us who were your fanbase, your followers. I'm likely taking a one way ticket to Doomheim, because I am utterly dissapointed. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Necandi Brasil DUST BRASIL S.A Caps and Mercs 904	Posted - 2014.05.02 21:33:00 - [164] - Quote CCP Really ... CCP !!!!!! Is money easy to win ? Then **** you... not seeing my money anymore you assholes ! (V) (°,,,,°) (V)
Guilbert 515 United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 30	Posted - 2014.05.02 21:40:00 - [165] - Quote Even if by any means dust would run on both platforms in the same universe KB/M players will dominate the entity of dust. Dust was to be a console game and not PC. It was to reach multiple platforms and bring those players together into one universe, and to an extend was on the right track. Dust is already an outstanding game on the console platform, and what the community wanted was for it to continue to be, with the PC like features that are enabled with next gen consoles. "Please fix drop uplink spam"
Renolissa RENOLUTION 1674	Posted - 2014.05.02 21:47:00 - [166] - Quote I pretty much just pay real money for your games. I threw EVE Online because you closed the Incarna. No longer a penny on EVEOnline. Bought for your game PS3, believed you again, and what I got? You got from me more than $ 300, and now I have to fill in more on the PC? NO MORE MONEY FOR CCP!!!
Ice JJ Fish 14	Posted - 2014.05.02 21:58:00 - [167] - Quote Poncho Polous wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. SONY has already stepped in to run damage control on your INCREDIBLY stupid move. You don't just make CCP look like a failure here, you rub off on your superiors who have graciously allowed this POS game on their servers when Microsoft told you ** no. They have stepped in to refund the money that people have wasted on this product upon request, and I hope they rip every dollar I spent here from the cold dead hands of this game. You **** up beyond your wildest dreams here, and the funny part is you had months to think up a good action plan and this was the best you could come up with. If anyone else looks to get their money back from this 'gaming company' call 1-800-345-SONY and explain what CCP is doing here on SONY's console, they will return your money to your credit card or wallet, so that you might continue to spend that money on worth while SONY products. I've spent about $200 on my character here, and with that refund theres a handful of other games I can waste my day on. Good day CCP, you've got your work cut out for you if you EVER expect to recover from the damage you've just done. STOP COMPLAINING AND TELLING THEM THEY DID WRONG, THEY WILL HEAR IT LOUD AND CLEAR WHEN YOU ALL TAKE YOUR MONEY BACK FROM THIS GAME. Have fun developing legion with half ur fking budget gone. THIS
medomai grey WarRavens Final Resolution. 661	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:02:00 - [168] - Quote Happy Violentime wrote: I'll watch if you're going to execute him and the CPM live on air... And this is why I dislike this community. Overreacting to the point of actually wishing death upon a group of people and being liked for it. What the hell is wrong with you people. PS: I hope you all die horrible at the barrel end of my laser rifles. Medium frame EHP is not medium
NewOldMan KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 80	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:05:00 - [169] - Quote I'm done. I'm sorry I gave you money for a game I thought could be something other than a cash grab or test run. One of my bigger questions is. Did the CPM know about this? If so, they all need to leave their posts.
james jared The Phoenix Federation Caps and Mercs 16	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:06:00 - [170] - Quote Poncho Polous wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. SONY has already stepped in to run damage control on your INCREDIBLY stupid move. You don't just make CCP look like a failure here, you rub off on your superiors who have graciously allowed this POS game on their servers when Microsoft told you ** no. They have stepped in to refund the money that people have wasted on this product upon request, and I hope they rip every dollar I spent here from the cold dead hands of this game. You **** up beyond your wildest dreams here, and the funny part is you had months to think up a good action plan and this was the best you could come up with. If anyone else looks to get their money back from this 'gaming company' call 1-800-345-SONY and explain what CCP is doing here on SONY's console, they will return your money to your credit card or wallet, so that you might continue to spend that money on worth while SONY products. I've spent about $200 on my character here, and with that refund theres a handful of other games I can waste my day on. Good day CCP, you've got your work cut out for you if you EVER expect to recover from the damage you've just done. STOP COMPLAINING AND TELLING THEM THEY DID WRONG, THEY WILL HEAR IT LOUD AND CLEAR WHEN YOU ALL TAKE YOUR MONEY BACK FROM THIS GAME. I second this Have fun developing legion with half ur fking budget gone.

Kev Crow Bragian Order Amarr Empire 31	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:07:00 - [171] - Quote Hairy Butter wrote: The problem was the events and firesales obviously designed to get people to buy as much Aurum as possible before telling people this, It was very dishonest. . Firesale? Dishonesty? Is that the argument. Really? Those would apply only if the PS3 project was shut down tomorrow and it is obviously not happening. I suppose that tantrum fits in such a situation are to be expected and are understandable to some extend. What happened is sad but it does not in anyway change the hard facts: In many ways that matter DUST is a failure and there is no PAINLESS way to back out of such a project. LEGION is a reboot that will take time to manifest and until it does DUST should remain active. Why not? Some players, mostly those who are deeply invested in the New Eden universe will move with the change, others will rage and quit. Nothing new in gaming world... Anyhow rational thinking has no place here, clearly. Let the hate flow, perhaps in a week heads will cool off and we can talk about it like "it's just a game I chose to play" and not "yet another evil CCP plot to steal my money time and dignity"
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2398	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:15:00 - [172] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. What exactly is this supposed to clarify about Dust? Ah, no. This is not about Dust. It's for CCP to tell you how awesome legion is and how it will be what they promised 5 years ago for Dust. And remember. They've shown what "We are actually working on." So well: They are "actually working on" Legion and not on Dust. Makes Sense. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Renolissa RENOLUTION 1676	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:17:00 - [173] - Quote all time i whait this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw0gOjOWDuI but where this? If i see this near future i say "yes, i wana pay CCP" But now we all have just laaaaagedgame with grass growing in 15-20 meters... ...and new project on PC....
Guilbert 515 United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 35	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:18:00 - [174] - Quote NewOldMan wrote: I'm done. I'm sorry I gave you money for a game I thought could be something other than a cash grab or test run. One of my bigger questions is. Did the CPM know about this? If so, they all need to leave their posts. If they did know about it make sure those guys will never get a post in any company any organization on this planet. "Please fix drop uplink spam"
Darryl Goff Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 12	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:19:00 - [175] - Quote Im not going to buy a pc . I been playing this game for 3years. Fck that ccp ill never forgive you .
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2402	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:21:00 - [176] - Quote Renolissa wrote: all time i whait this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw0gOjOWDuI but where this? If i see this near future i say "yes, i wana pay CCP" But now we all have just laaaaagedgame with grass growing in 15-20 meters... ...and new project on PC.... "Project Legion: E3 2011 Trailer" The intern just ****** up the name. HONESTLY! Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Kratek Heshan United Colonial Empire Army Freek Alliance 42	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:21:00 - [177] - Quote you just made your customers unhappy ccp period...
boba's fetta Dead Man's Game 565	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:25:00 - [178] - Quote well i think i can say thats me done with dust.
Renolissa RENOLUTION 1676	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:25:00 - [179] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Renolissa wrote: all time i whait this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw0gOjOWDuI but where this? If i see this near future i say "yes, i wana pay CCP" But now we all have just laaaaagedgame with grass growing in 15-20 meters... ...and new project on PC.... "Project Legion: E3 2011 Trailer" The intern just ****** up the name. HONESTLY! yeah...
Renolissa RENOLUTION 1676	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:28:00 - [180] - Quote and this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHxYk-ZdvCQ year 2009!!!

Vect-r Vault of the Void 52	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:28:00 - [181] - Quote Here's an idea. Why don't you get a ** real hard and put it in that hole in your face. You and all other DEVS blow boat people. By that I mean you all suck ginormous **. Not liking DUST so much so far, but hey, its free.
SonOfTheVoid The Rainbow Effect Dirt Nap Squad. 3	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:30:00 - [182] - Quote I got a sneaky suspicion I've made a very bad trade and set my stoploss wrong because of misplaced trust/faith, shame on me hey ccp, after all, you encourage deceit and betrayal, guess I'm the mug, or is this some perverse ploy from the machavelian guide book for devs, to do some kind of massive wind up on your playerbase?? someone pat me on the back for refraining to go all expletive mentalist because im pretty sure ive been fleeced,,,,,,
Faquira Bleuetta Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 371	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:37:00 - [183] - Quote XEROO COOL wrote: This about sums it up sir! this guys suck at throwing his miss the true target DUST is dead long live Project legion
Aeladon Leiko KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Lokun Listamenn 6	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:39:00 - [184] - Quote well - what can i say here with out getting myself banned... whats wrong with you ccp? you promised us a 10 year game and barely delivered one out of closed beta. i have a 44m sp char...will it get moved over to the new game or are you completely going to abandon me? i've spent money on this game and a lot of time. i payed the money and spent the time on good faith that this game would be something and my investment would pay off. i was hoping to be well setup for this games future. from what i read, hear and see there is none. this is beyond wrong and beyond shady. i'll be asking for a complete refund from Sony. how dare you ccp. you knew this was coming and through xp events and encouraged more purchases to milk the last little bit from your loyal player base. a player base that has stuck with you and played a, frankly, sub par game with a great concept and a lot of potential. that's just wrong. big business ethics at work. no respect no loyalty... ****, pillage and plunder all you can then get out. congratulations ccp, you suck.
Poncho Polous The Phoenix Federation Caps and Mercs 301	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:41:00 - [185] - Quote Aeladon Leiko wrote: well - what can i say here with out getting myself banned... whats wrong with you ccp? you promised us a 10 year game and barely delivered one out of closed beta. i have a 44m sp char...will it get moved over to the new game or are you completely going to abandon me? i've spent money on this game and a lot of time. i payed the money and spent the time on good faith that this game would be something and my investment would pay off. i was hoping to be well setup for this games future. from what i read, hear and see there is none. this is beyond wrong and beyond shady. i'll be asking for a complete refund from Sony. how dare you ccp. you knew this was coming and through xp events and encouraged more purchases to milk the last little bit from your loyal player base. a player base that has stuck with you and played a, frankly, sub par game with a great concept and a lot of potential. that's just wrong. big business ethics at work. no respect no loyalty... ****, pillage and plunder all you can then get out. congratulations ccp, you suck. THIS CEO The Phoenix Federation WE DA BUSSS!!!
lowratehitman Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1038	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:43:00 - [186] - Quote Hello friends!..... it was a pleasure knowing each and every one of you...
Dheez Kinsho Swords Caldari State 114	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:49:00 - [187] - Quote Liar, Liar, Pants on FireGÇª. CCP yells, Quickly CPM's grab a Fire Extinguisher.
usrevenge2 Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 92	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:52:00 - [188] - Quote here is the thing (ex dust and eve player here) Eve players are pc fanboys for the most part. good luck having dust players get ANY love from the eve players. so that is out the window. the dust players are now going to have a vastly inferior game, i'm not talking graphics either I am talking gameplay wise I guarantee the pc players will get love dust should have just been made for ps4 which is where a lot of people have been moving, once you go to ps4 you probably aren't touching ps3 for a game like dust (no offense) I actually spent money on dust, and though I quit, I'm a little ticked off that it's over. there is no point in playing dust because the moment it comes to pc what is left of the ps3 version is going to be useless. It's like we beta tested a demo. not beta tested a game, a demo. the sad thing is, dust was unique it just shouldn't have been made for ps3, rather the ps4. bad timing but doesn't mean you should scurry off to pcfanboy land and kill what was built.
Taipaen Loose Cannon Security 4	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:56:00 - [189] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." This roughly translates to... "We're not done taking your money yet, so please hold on to whatever false hope you have that enables you to be foolish enough to fund Project Legion."
Global Enforcer Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 83	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:58:00 - [190] - Quote CCP you spent the resources From the sales of items in game, promoted events to further spend money on In game items just for you to put all the promised content and fixes from dust in a new game altogether. How you can sit there logi bro and try and palm everyone off as stupid is beyond me. I will get the word out and make sure your fan base for you dust port with improvements is as small as possible. You have deceived and manipulated this community and should all be held accountable for theft upon deception because that's what you did, you deceived us by using content scheduled for this game and ported into a new pc game, you promised a 10 year dedicated plan with "laser focused" ambition but delivered nothing but a beta game for us to test so when you was ready you would release the full game into a completely new platform BPO-> K61-D13

Aeladon Leiko KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Lokun Listamenn 12	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:00:00 - [191] - Quote just canceled my eve account. i had 5 at one time. went down to 1 cause i am paying for a wedding here in august...needed to save some money on the slow time for me at work. i'm back to 60 hours...was going to activate the other 4. i canceled my last one instead - frankly cause of this guy: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=159617 ccp you are a joke. "EVE Online Subscription Cancelled You have cancelled your EVE Online subscription. Your account will be suspended at the end of the current subscription period, expiring on 14 May 2014. Your characters will be stored safely and be ready for you to enjoy again should you decide to return. If you feel that this cancellation has been made in error, you can quickly and easily reopen your account by clicking below." the error was not mine ccp...not mine at all.
Jake Diesel BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 159	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:02:00 - [192] - Quote Skihids wrote: Your footprints are all over our backs. I lolled at this. Awesome. Exactly how all the console players feel like.
Renolissa RENOLUTION 1676	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:06:00 - [193] - Quote They used us, we pay them, they understand how to make money, they threw us, they found the place where they can can earn by deception. -Pther explanation I do not see...
J0hlss0n Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 140	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:08:00 - [194] - Quote SgtNONECK WASSSUP wrote: MAG 514
Yan Darn Science For Death Final Resolution. 772	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:11:00 - [195] - Quote Zyrus Amalomyn wrote: I love how everyone and their mother is being simplistic and forgetting just how old the PS3 is. The cold, hard truth, is that the PS3 was NEVER going to be good enough for what they were promising us. I knew it, and thousands of others knew it. Only the people in denial in this thread kept denying reality. This is the first news in months that made me respect CCP some. They can easily port Legion to the PS4 and actually get work done. I left back in Uprising because of the mouse issues, but this may make me play again. Thanks CCP, for making a game I might actually want to play. You can polish a turd, but it's still a turd, and that's what Dust 514 is. These are fair points, but what did CCP know and when? A lot of what of what was promoted for DUST is now for Legion it seems - when did that decision occur? Maybe I missed something but until now there was rather positive reinforcement that things like player market and PVE would come to DUST eventually. There is such a thing as expectation management and I'm not sure it was demonstrated in an entirely favourable way. At this point, one could be inclined to believe that the reason DUST was brought out of beta in the state it was in, was precisely because they knew it wasn't going anywhere, and needed to make some kind of return... I'm saying that is what I believe, but the way this was handled - no one can exactly trust what CCP is doing or where it is going with what product. The Ghost of Bravo
Zira Soong Zoom Level 11 4	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:15:00 - [196] - Quote 1) Project Legion is just a concept at this stage. NOTHING has been confirmed. 2) People are naive to think that a PS3-only shooter can survive for as long as EVE has on the PC. Most FPS communities count themselves extremely lucky if they survive their first year on a console, whereas the PC is THE place for games to survive for very, very long periods, even thrive. If anything, this could help Dust on the PS3 in the long run, rather than kill it. 3) There are people on other platforms who want to play Dust aswell but don't want to buy a PS3 for it - A rather large portion of the EVE players for example, as well as people playing Planetside 2 who want something else than a perpetual zerg rush and a more organized game structure. There's a market for this kind of game and it's not bound to the PS3. So far, i repeat, NOTHING has been confirmed, not even that Legion will even make it to release. Jumping to conclusions based on no facts whatsoever is not productive in any way. During the Dust 514 Progression presentation, someone asked the question on whether characters could be transferred. They don't know yet, but would like to include the possibility, however the statement was made in such a way that it doesn't preclude the possibility of Dust and Legion simply being the same game on different platforms. I saw multiple people on the forums jumping to conclusions that it would not be possible, based on no fact whatsoever. That last bit does depend on the PS3 though... It seems like some of the features aren't going to be possible (at least not with a playable framerate) on the PS3, hence they wanted to look for other possibilities. Even Destiny will have heavily instanced areas on both the PS3 and 360 for this reason, as well as a limit to a handful of players. MAG, while having a high player limit, had extremely small maps to put them in comparatively. The newest COD and BF have limits of 18 and 24 players respectively on the console, the latter having comparable map sizes to Dust. Don't overestimate console hardware from 2005.... Dust either being expanded to or moving to the PC was something that was bound to happen from the moment it was announced. Everyone knows this but most seem unwilling to admit it. If or when it does, CCP won't be dicks and just close Dust down. At least it will go on with it's own team behind it and if it turns out to be possible you're going to be given the option to move with all your assets intact. Instead of trying to reach for pitchforks and torches, just wait a bit and see what's actually going to happen.
Velozz Shazla Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:20:00 - [197] - Quote there are two things i want ether A: my money that iv wasted on dust to be refunded or B: my self to be transferred over to legion no if and sure as hell no buts sure iv take a leave of absents from dust for a good few mounts but i demand satisfaction for all the time in the closed beta open beta and full game that iv played ya hear
Renolissa RENOLUTION 1676	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:21:00 - [198] - Quote My personal desire: DUST 514 = PS4, PVE, MARKET, Explore, more interactive environments. Thats first what i whait 2+ years. Thats all i not have... Do it something CCP and maybe you will return all the same trust.
PO0KY Virtual Syndicate 590	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:28:00 - [199] - Quote So this is the end times... I've feared this day for many moons.
Donwalis Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 38	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:29:00 - [200] - Quote you know what now i know what it feels like to be raped by a friend .

ROCKO THE HELLHOUND Ultramarine Corp 54	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:33:00 - [201] - Quote just to clarify one thing CCP: you cannot have anymore both AND splitted, Legion on PC - and PVP-Lobby-Shooter Dust on PS3/ PS4 - you can only have either Legion, Dust - and what not - on PC, or Dust & Legion as one game on PS3/ PS4 (and on PC !!!ADDITIONALLY!!! if you like). because trying the foremost approach triggers one, as i believe completely unavoidable chain-reaction of game-death - if you care enough, here the in-deep explanation: the one thing that kept the majority of us logging on over and over again and (maybe even) playing, was certainly not that we loved playing tiny PVP-Lobby-Shooter so incredibly much - in fact the most people here hated this aspect much too much for it to be of any good enough reason to keep sticking around here. no, the reason most of us sticked with grinding in this garbage was, next to friendships mostly that one thing that differed Dust from the very beginning from most other games - a promised long and glorious future in which Dust will be so much more than a d*mned little PVP-Lobby-Shooter on console like a million other. so in the end, it means by now that saying: "this future will be on PC" - equals as: "if you are not a PC-Gamer, or are not planning on becoming one in the near future - all your past, present and future money, time and energy investments in Dust are for nothing", as the majority of players here leave because of neither planning to be a future Eve-Legion-Player on PC - nor to keep being a Dust PVP-Lobby-Shooter player, which will unavoidably even make the PVP-Lobby-Shooter-Project Dust die out of severe under-population, regardless of how "officially" or not. and at the very end of this chain-catastrophe, even the guys that actually really enjoyed the PVP-Lobby-Shooter aspect of Dust enough for it to be reason enough to stay because of it - will leave too, as they will unavoidably see the sings of time and of under-population dying game as well. R.I.P. Dust - or Dust & Legion as one game, on whichever platforms - i am afraid this are the only two options to pick.
Medic 1879 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1995	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:49:00 - [202] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. Lmfao 10/10 "some clarification" yet says sweet FA about anything good one. Lead Diplomat for Forsaken Immortals.
Anthany sandifer The2nd 0	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:57:00 - [203] - Quote Ccp is lieing the only thing ur good at. I had some put so much into this fanfest now this is what we ps3 playlers get. Legion will be dust on pc but so much better than the ps3 version. U have lost a fan ccp, this has affected many playlers that play dust, theres not a reason to play this game anymore.
Shion Typhon Intara Direct Action Caldari State 569	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:57:00 - [204] - Quote Ender Storm wrote: All this Doom and Gloom, what a waste of space. The thing is that Legion was just shown, it may not even become a Thing, they dont know what it will become. Its just like what EVE(R) was when shown and then become Valkirie and is still long ways to be released, it ever. Dust, besides the regular circle of development, surely has still a good 3-4 years to live, probably more considering Legion might be an entirelly diferent experience. Also, PS4 is just some dumbed down PC this generation. Developing is made on PC's. It being on PC today dosent mean it wont be on a PS4 tomorow. Its way to early to know anything. God, this community is awful and entitled. Entitled, heeeeeeee It's good to see nothing can get a real fanboy down, not even having his game canned. CCP must be laughing. At least 20% of the posts are "CCP, you came into my house, took my stuff, killed my doggy, had your way with my girl and shat on my bed, I can't love you anymore. Oh by the way, when can I apply for Legion beta access?" When is enough enough?
Righteous Holylight God's Kingdom 7	Posted - 2014.05.03 00:08:00 - [205] - Quote My God... I am furious. As many of us are, especially us DUST veterns. We seriously loved and believed in everything we did in DUST. Everything in Legion is all my hopes and dreams that should went to DUST. I am tantamount of going into tears. Brcauae I invested so much. My heart weighs heavy of woe. I am sad this day. I love everyone of you guys and gals, despite how I get mad during gameplay. I need. bumper sticker saying "4ever514"
psyanyde 45	Posted - 2014.05.03 00:32:00 - [206] - Quote Ender Storm wrote: The thing is that Legion was just shown, it may not even become a Thing That kinda makes things in fact worse 'Hey guise we're gonna stop working on dust and focus on a game that might not ever see the light of day Thanks for all your money -CCP Douche'
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 3567	Posted - 2014.05.03 00:50:00 - [207] - Quote I must admit that the way they presented everything was a EA level ass move. The community is the worst thing that ever happened to this game Caldari Scout // specialized tank destroyer
Namirial Kensai Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 43	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:08:00 - [208] - Quote Heres how it happens. CCP said for years they would add atmospheric flight, planetary exploration, feet-on-the-ground content to EVE, waht did we get instead? DUST 514 which they kept claiming "wasnt a blatant lie, because look, it totally has EVE next to the name, so its still technically IN EVE and not a lie" despite the fact it was on an entirely separate console inaccessible to msot of the EVE playerbase. Now DUST and all of its "Future Features" are going to be in Legion "Oh but its still ground combat, its just the evolution of DUST, it doesnt matter that its on a completely separate platform and you cant transfer data, were sure youll love it adn the tagalong arena lobby CoD shooter that is DUST 514" What should have happened from the beginning is to have DUST 514 start as an integrated part of the EVE client, separate skill queue and everything, with DUST features accessible on unsubscribed accounts (just no spaceship content unless subscribed). This would have allowed deep integration off the bat. hen you could have expanded out to the console market. This solution would have avoided alienating 2 separate playerbases, supposedly (according to the whole reason Legion is being developed) would have avoided most if not all of the development issues, would have kept EVE itself as the quintessential Sci-Fi universal experience, and at the end of the day cause a shitton less grief. Instead, youv'e pieced out valuable parts of the EVE experience in a way that will rpevent ANY of them from ever being fully integrated, due to your belief they must all be able to stand alone. you've lied repeatedly. youve carouselled around a valuable piece of the EVE world. and frankly, I think people are getting tired of the concept that to experience "the full EVE" they would need multiple separate non-interacting accounts, and several thousand dollars in different platforms. Hell, didnt Soundwave say before he left, if it was up to him and his team, Things like mining would have godawful minigames, and PI would be ripped out in favor of a tablet minigame? what next, an EVE 2 with all the fixes weve always wanted? EVE should be ONE world, not two games//one universe, ONE game, ONE world, ONE community, but you seem adamant to keep us all separated and chasing around projects like our time, progression, and trust is cheap and meaningless.
Nomex Gallatin Direct Action Resources 55	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:08:00 - [209] - Quote Zira Soong wrote: 1) Project Legion is just a concept at this stage. NOTHING has been confirmed... Instead of trying to reach for pitchforks and torches, just wait a bit and see what's actually going to happen. Well said sir... but why do that when it's so easy to jump to conclusions? Seriously though, just like a battle, let the situation develop a little bit to see what's really happening. GÇ£GÇª shatter the enemy and then the terrain will fall into your hands by itself.GÇ¥ - General Heinz Gaedke
Pvt Numnutz R 0 N 1 N 1184	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:16:00 - [210] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Only thing I care about is legion for PS4 with character transfer. Anything else means absolutely nothing. This, a million times this!

Donwalis Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 38	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:18:00 - [211] - Quote so you want to make dust a COD or BF clone just cause it's on a console cause the money in pc yeah that might be true. but now you have to put in extra programs for the PC cheaters and charge a monthly fee it will work but just without me I just can go thru that bs anymore . new build ( damn got to get the new vid card and etc...) yeah i got the money to do it . but hell no thats why i got a ps 3 i still get good game. just better return on investment.
DARK - IMPULSE Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 58	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:20:00 - [212] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. This is DEAD 514 forums, not Legion "the BURNING TREE FPS". CCP..............Oh boy.
Donwalis Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 38	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:31:00 - [213] - Quote how about you and Mr Makeup go for a long run off a short cliff
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 805	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:32:00 - [214] - Quote 11 pages and no clarification at all. Thanks guys top notch. We can pickle that.
IgniteableAura Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 988	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:48:00 - [215] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. Project or not, you spent the ENTIRE keynote talking about Legion, a project that is "separate" from dust. You spent the entirety of the "dust 514 progression" presentation talking about things that will only translate to Legion. The one thing this states in very clear letters is, "we are no longer supporting dust" "we have no content to show for dust" "all things being developed are for Legion" WHERE IS THE DUST KEYNOTE! Pyrex gave us more dust info they CCP Rouuuuuge I am excited for Legion, but its not dust. I wanted dust info, not legion. Do not give us a trojan horse and expect us to fall for it. Youtube
Roofer Madness 1111	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:09:00 - [216] - Quote I just thought I would chime in here to say: ahem CCP... I hate you bunch of * bags.... I woke up early this morning like a total moron to watch that bullshit keynote. What a ***** joke. I spent half my ISK on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The rest I wasted.
Athena Sentinel SOE Knights Templar 293	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:16:00 - [217] - Quote CHANCEtheChAn wrote: 2 years 2 years, And all you came up with is a new game I need a new console (PC) to play. This fanfest This was supposed to be DUST 2.0 this was supposed to be player market This was supposed to be PvE This was supposed to be PC 2.0 This was supposed to be pilot suits and new game modes And yet, all I got from fan fest was This was all for nothing... +1
IMMORTAL WAR HERO NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 139	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:18:00 - [218] - Quote what happens to my collectables my sp my history withen eve Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
Athena Sentinel SOE Knights Templar 293	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:18:00 - [219] - Quote Nomex Gallatin wrote: Zira Soong wrote: 1) Project Legion is just a concept at this stage. NOTHING has been confirmed... Instead of trying to reach for pitchforks and torches, just wait a bit and see what's actually going to happen. Well said sir... but why do that when it's so easy to jump to conclusions? Seriously though, just like a battle, let the situation develop a little bit to see what's really happening. Nomex Gallatin, historical this has been a bad idea. The last rat on the ship = you.
Dairum Dark LUX AETERNA INT RUST415 11	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:20:00 - [220] - Quote CCP -Å -¦-¦-ü -+-¦-+-¦-¦-+-¦-â. -Æ-ü-¦ -¦-¦-¦-+-+ -ƒ-ï-+-î -¦ -+-+-+-â-ç-+-+-+ -+-Ç-¦-¦-¦-é-¦-+-î-ü-é-¦-+ -ü -¦-¦-ê-¦-¦ -ü-é-+-Ç-+-+-ï. -Æ-+-¦-ü-é-+ -é-+-¦-+ -ç-é-+-¦-ï -Ç-¦-+-¦-+-¦-¦-é-î -ƒ-ï-+-î -¦-ï -+-é-¦-¦-+-¦-+-+-ü-î -+-é -+-¦-¦ -+ -+-é -+-¦-ü -¦-ü-¦-à. -á-¦-ê-+-+-+ -ü-+-+-¦-¦-é-î BF -¦-+-+-+ -¦-+-Å -+-Ç-ï-ë-¦-¦-ï-à -+-¦-+-+-+-¦-é-+-¦ -+ -ç-+-é-¦-Ç-+-¦ -+-¦ -ƒ-Ü. -ƒ-Ç-+ -é-¦-à-+-+-ç-¦-ü-¦-+-¦ -¦-+-+-+-+-¦-+-+-ü-é-+ -+ -ü-+-ï-ê-¦-é-î -+-¦ -à-+-ç-â. -Æ BF4 -¦-+-+-î-ê-¦ -¦-¦-Ç-é-ï, -¦-+-+-î-ê-¦ -é-¦-à-+-+-¦-+ -+ -+-â-ç-ê-¦ -¦-Ç-¦-ä-+-¦-¦, -¦ -+-+-¦-ç-+-é -+ -¦ -ƒ-ï-+-î -+-+-¦-+-+ -â-+-â-ç-ê-¦-é-î -+-¦ -ì-é-+-¦ -¦-+-+-ü-+-+-+. -Æ-ï -ì-é-+-¦-+ -+-¦ -+-¦-à-+-é-¦-+-+. -Æ-ï -+-¦-¦-ë-¦-+-+ -¦-Ç-+-+-+-¦ -+ -ƒ-Æ-ò -¦ -ƒ-ï-+-+ - -¦-ï -ü-+-+-¦-¦-+-+, -ì-é-+ -é-+-¦-¦ -é-¦-à-+-+-ç-¦-ü-¦-+ -¦-+-+-+-+-¦-+-+. -ƒ-+-à-+-¦-â -+-+-¦-+-+ -+-¦-¦-+-¦-¦-é-î -¦-¦-+-+-¦-+ -¦ -¦-Ç-ï-ê-¦-â -¦-Ç-+-¦-¦ -ƒ-½-¢-¼ 514.

IMMORTAL WAR HERO NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 139	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:21:00 - [221] - Quote i care more about collectables you can delete 40 000 000sp but my bpos and collectables are precious to me as i spent 400 $ on something i liked Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
Tau Lai Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 89	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:31:00 - [222] - Quote Dust is easier to pronounce than Leeeegion. I can see you Buy a tank Buy an assault dropship
Tupni Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 111	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:33:00 - [223] - Quote You know, at least Dust was helpful in prototyping a new title. I mean, honestly the process has been data rich, revealing player interests, play styles, methods of exploitation, what FPS players want/expect from a game, and perhaps even some weaknesses on CCP's part in handling such things. Hopefully this all translates into a new, more professional game with a robust and effective model. Plus, really, I mean, I feel bad for saying it since it seemed like Sony genuinely tried to give CCP room to maneuver, but a game of this style is better suited to PC for many, many reasons and a console company can only do so much. A big one is ready access to social features inside the game and beyond it that the PS3 just can not replicate (and the PS4 is ill-likely to get the necessary software). I feel let down that now, in all likelihood, Dust is going to be the contractually obliged red headed step-child that lives in the backyard, in the cold Swedish rain only too conscious of the fact that it will never be as regarded as the new child that has come to take what little place Dust had , had near the fire and then more as Legion is, in a way previously unknown to Dust, earnestly loved. That is, this painful scene and realization before the happiness of Legion serves to deaden a heart near breaking; the infrequent and undeniably lesser scraps CCP sends its way out of pity only enough to surely prolong Dust's suffering before the inevitable. But mostly I'm just glad to know that CCP hasn't given up on making a FPS despite all the flak they got for Dust. Plus, how about this line: "And lo, the Dust settled. And Legion rose" Euhhhhhhhh?? ;D
21yrOld Knight Pradox XVI Proficiency V. 855	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:41:00 - [224] - Quote Happy Violentime wrote: I'll watch if you're going to execute him and the CPM live on air... That isn't funny. Mike Ruan Said I was Dust Famous *General John Ripper Said I was Dust Famous* Does it matter anymore
Athena Sentinel SOE Knights Templar 295	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:51:00 - [225] - Quote 21yrOld Knight wrote: Happy Violentime wrote: I'll watch if you're going to execute him and the CPM live on air... That isn't funny. Its hilarious !!
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 1069	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:56:00 - [226] - Quote 21yrOld Knight wrote: Happy Violentime wrote: I'll watch if you're going to execute him and the CPM live on air... That isn't funny. Its total gold you scrub. Stop enjoying being ****** like a monkey. Nemo me impune lacessit CCP - Announcing games at the same time as killing the ones you love CCP - No Credibility
Dread Pyrate Roberts Titus Warfare Corporation 1	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:56:00 - [227] - Quote CCP isnGÇÖt known for wiping characters off the servers, so I would guess thereGÇÖs some kind of character transfer in the works. Legion looks amazing, and wouldnGÇÖt be surprised if there was a PS4 announcement coming. Just like Valkyrie, which was a PC/Rift exclusive and then got announced for PS4. But Legion would have to be a cross-platform engine that allowed PS4 and PC players to fight each other in the same space, for the planetary control to work. Personally I donGÇÖt mind moving to PC and not having to buy a PS4. I understand some people just like to play on consoles. I would be very upset to find out the things I spent real money on just to collect, faction suits and vehicles, where going to be deleted. If you want answer out of Iceland, then a player protest is the fastest way. Stop playing or join a match and donGÇÖt spawn to create server load. After a big enough chunk of players join the protest theyGÇÖll answer. This has worked in EVE many times when the player base was unhappy.
Jerry Swiss Phantom Universe Task Force Die Fremdenlegion 1	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:56:00 - [228] - Quote its hurt :( i pay 2 years for Legion :( will my money back!!! For 2 weecks ccp bring Omega Booster, and i pay a loot of them, will i was sure Dust 514 comming Awsome new Updates. and news on Fanfest.
21yrOld Knight Pradox XVI Proficiency V. 856	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:57:00 - [229] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: 21yrOld Knight wrote: Happy Violentime wrote: I'll watch if you're going to execute him and the CPM live on air... That isn't funny. Its hilarious !! That really isn't funny. I personally hate what ccp is doing with dust right now, but making a joke about someone's death is a terrible thing. When injustice came out the person who designed harly quin got death threats because she looked more human and not like a cartoon. Jokes like this can become very serious and shouldn't be taken lightly. Mike Ruan Said I was Dust Famous *General John Ripper Said I was Dust Famous* I'm famous in dead game. Q.Q
Banjo Robertson Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 205	Posted - 2014.05.03 03:07:00 - [230] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. Did this EVE TV interview happen? I missed it.

Ryan Noir Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2014.05.03 03:12:00 - [231] - Quote I haven't play Dust much but I have been an avid EVE player since 2009...this announcement doesn't surprise me, but it is absolutely a blatant disregard for your Dust community. The PC is NOT the ultimate superior gaming system. Sure PS3 may have seen its day, but the point is you never even tried to migrate to the PS4. For all you PC enthusiast the PC is NOT an eternally viable platform for many reason. Yes it is essentially the same platform but so is the Playstation, different models yes, but same platform. The same is said for PC, difference variations BUT the same platform. So while DUst would need to go to PS4 and PS5 if it comes out in order to stay alive. It would need to be done on PC as well. Every 2-3 years you have to update your hardware to stay current in performance demands. So while Playstation has PS3, PS4, and PS5...the PC would have dx10 dx11 dx12 and so on. The issue here is that CCP hoped to get more than the 9K players it got, they wanted to see numbers equal to eve and it didnt happen. They claim it is a limited system to design a game on when in reality they are just used to PC development...and based on the last few eve expansions or "patches" as they should be more properly called, they are failing at that too. All I can tell you PS3 Dust players is....this IS how CCP operates, they like to promise ** and then screw their player base. They have done that so many times in eve that I think the eve community has just become numb from it and expect it. Its a horrible thing, they literally pushed marketing for stuff to sell leading up to Fanfest and then dropped the bomb, "oops sorry guys but you can always buy a PC and play legion which is tons better." CCP, this is the Jita riot of Dust and you better damn well get used to it because while you will gain a few eve players in legion, you will most likely lose 70-80% of your dust player base. You F*ed up by dropping the bomb this early, you can kiss any dust income goodbye. I have already put my PS3 up for sale and I wont be playing dust again even if you salvage it. In fact I seriously will need to question my involvement in eve as well.
Duran Lex Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 876	Posted - 2014.05.03 03:17:00 - [232] - Quote 21yrOld Knight wrote: Athena Sentinel wrote: 21yrOld Knight wrote: Happy Violentime wrote: I'll watch if you're going to execute him and the CPM live on air... That isn't funny. Its hilarious !! That really isn't funny. I personally hate what ccp is doing with dust right now, but making a joke about someone's death is a terrible thing. When injustice came out the person who designed harly quin got death threats because she looked more human and not like a cartoon. Jokes like this can become very serious and shouldn't be taken lightly. Except it wasn't a death threat, which I agree are not something that should happen over a video game. I also agree it's not funny, but not because of the content in the joke. Jokes about anything in life is perfectly fine as long as it's an actual joke.
zzZaXxx The Phoenix Federation 349	Posted - 2014.05.03 03:23:00 - [233] - Quote IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote: i care more about collectables you can delete 40 000 000sp but my bpos and collectables are precious to me as i spent 400 $ on something i liked Let's give them the benefit of the doubt for a bit. The devs have shown themselves to be nice guys and CCP is a business but they value their gamers as much as they do making money. I think it very likely that they will try to compensate people who spent real money. But bro you can't keep your BPOs. Super Dust will be too different in that aspect. Every dropsuit will be a blueprint or something. Items won't carry over exactly, but they've earned our trust enough I think to know that they will try to do something for us. People cry out betrayal but they're just doing what they have to do to make a great game that will last. No reason to think they will bite the hand that fed them.
Iyllaria Dai Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 62	Posted - 2014.05.03 03:24:00 - [234] - Quote Duran Lex wrote: 21yrOld Knight wrote: Athena Sentinel wrote: 21yrOld Knight wrote: Happy Violentime wrote: I'll watch if you're going to execute him and the CPM live on air... That isn't funny. Its hilarious !! That really isn't funny. I personally hate what ccp is doing with dust right now, but making a joke about someone's death is a terrible thing. When injustice came out the person who designed harly quin got death threats because she looked more human and not like a cartoon. Jokes like this can become very serious and shouldn't be taken lightly. Except it wasn't a death threat, which I agree are not something that should happen over a video game. I also agree it's not funny, but not because of the content in the joke. Jokes about anything in life is perfectly fine as long as it's an actual joke. It was sarcasm folks.. sarcasm. If anyone took it seriously then you need to put the controllers, keyboard, mouse, etc down and get outside more. While it may not have been in good taste, it was only sarcasm, not a death threat, not an actual wanting someone dead in real life.. just a voicing of frustration on the current state of affairs and dislike for it's leadership.
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 1103	Posted - 2014.05.03 03:24:00 - [235] - Quote Happy Violentime wrote: I'll watch if you're going to execute him and the CPM live on air... CAN..........NOT............LIKE.................................................THHHIISSSS.......................ENOUGH CCP **** US LIKE MONKIES, BEWARE OF YOUR SURROUNDINGS WHEN DEALING WITH THESE MANIACS Nemo me impune lacessit CCP - Announcing games at the same time as killing the ones you love CCP - No Credibility
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1574	Posted - 2014.05.03 03:32:00 - [236] - Quote Banjo Robertson wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. Did this EVE TV interview happen? I missed it. it did. you can watch it at the 8:18:00 mark on the stream. they said 'we're bringing everyone with us'. no one believed them. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
Iyllaria Dai Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 62	Posted - 2014.05.03 03:33:00 - [237] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote: i care more about collectables you can delete 40 000 000sp but my bpos and collectables are precious to me as i spent 400 $ on something i liked Let's give them the benefit of the doubt for a bit. The devs have shown themselves to be nice guys and CCP is a business but they value their gamers as much as they do making money. I think it very likely that they will try to compensate people who spent real money. But bro you can't keep your BPOs. Super Dust will be too different in that aspect. Every dropsuit will be a blueprint or something. Items won't carry over exactly, but they've earned our trust enough I think to know that they will try to do something for us. People cry out betrayal but they're just doing what they have to do to make a great game that will last. No reason to think they will bite the hand that fed them. Seriously? Do you really believe this gibberish? Trust? What trust? The trust of promises that have fallen short? Of constant promises to fix thing, add things, etc yet these days never come? Perhaps the trust of a working product? Not hotfixes ontop of hotfixes. Mostly because by their own words their Dev team has been busy elsewhere. Value their gamers? That is the biggest joke. What have they done to show their gamers they have any value? Listened to the community? Implemented desperately needed components into the game? The only thing they are going to try to do is sell you more crap via the Dust store to fund what is NOT Dust. Anyone who thinks they will continue to update and work on Dust when they have a new project child is delusional. Especially with resources spread thin. They could still salvage Dust by moving it to PS4, which is just as capable running their new toy as the PC. Dust doesn't have to sit on the PS3 system and rot, unless they want it to die. They have repeatedly bitten the hand that feeds them. Perhaps you have been absent for most of the past updates of late? This is a pre emptive move to start closing down Dust. In the process they have spat in the faces of it's supporters, fans and have decided to totally alienate their console player base because of superficial numbers that don't exist.
Ryan Noir Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2014.05.03 03:37:00 - [238] - Quote Iyllaria Dai wrote: zzZaXxx wrote: IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote: i care more about collectables you can delete 40 000 000sp but my bpos and collectables are precious to me as i spent 400 $ on something i liked Let's give them the benefit of the doubt for a bit. The devs have shown themselves to be nice guys and CCP is a business but they value their gamers as much as they do making money. I think it very likely that they will try to compensate people who spent real money. But bro you can't keep your BPOs. Super Dust will be too different in that aspect. Every dropsuit will be a blueprint or something. Items won't carry over exactly, but they've earned our trust enough I think to know that they will try to do something for us. People cry out betrayal but they're just doing what they have to do to make a great game that will last. No reason to think they will bite the hand that fed them. Seriously? Do you really believe this gibberish? Trust? What trust? The trust of promises that have fallen short? Of constant promises to fix thing, add things, etc yet these days never come? Perhaps the trust of a working product? Not hotfixes ontop of hotfixes. Mostly because by their own words their Dev team has been busy elsewhere. Value their gamers? That is the biggest joke. What have they done to show their gamers they have any value? Listened to the community? Implemented desperately needed components into the game? The only thing they are going to try to do is sell you more crap via the Dust store to fund what is NOT Dust. Anyone who thinks they will continue to update and work on Dust when they have a new project child is delusional. Especially with resources spread thin. They could still salvage Dust by moving it to PS4, which is just as capable running their new toy as the PC. Dust doesn't have to sit on the PS3 system and rot, unless they want it to die. They have repeatedly bitten the hand that feeds them. Perhaps you have been absent for most of the past updates of late? This is a pre emptive move to start closing down Dust. In the process they have spat in the faces of it's supporters, fans and have decided to totally alienate their console player base because of superficial numbers that don't exist. To be honest Im not sure which is more insulting, that they have taken what was promised to PS players and moved it to a PC or the fact that they have secretly been using up Dust dev time behind our backs for the past year to develop a demo of legion.
Namirial Kensai Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 46	Posted - 2014.05.03 04:02:00 - [239] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote: i care more about collectables you can delete 40 000 000sp but my bpos and collectables are precious to me as i spent 400 $ on something i liked Let's give them the benefit of the doubt for a bit. The devs have shown themselves to be nice guys and CCP is a business but they value their gamers as much as they do making money. I think it very likely that they will try to compensate people who spent real money. But bro you can't keep your BPOs. Super Dust will be too different in that aspect. Every dropsuit will be a blueprint or something. Items won't carry over exactly, but they've earned our trust enough I think to know that they will try to do something for us. People cry out betrayal but they're just doing what they have to do to make a great game that will last. No reason to think they will bite the hand that fed them. I just want my Templar suit to soem degree, thsoe BPO's were one time things from the collectors edition, and itd be beyond uncool to take that away
Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 1656	Posted - 2014.05.03 04:11:00 - [240] - Quote Justicar Karnellia wrote: Saberwing this is really poor stuff. You should just go ahead and get him to answer one important question "Will dust players be able to transfer their characters to Legion".. that's pretty much it. Once we get an answer to that, I can guarantee you it will be determinant in deciding whether people continue playing Dust - which lets be realistic, will have no new content until it is shut down... maybe a stability or bug fix here and there... but considering all your development time has been on a new game, and will continue to be that way - please don't insult people's intelligence and don't ruin the crediblity that you still have by trying to say "oh we're still working on Dust" - if you'd been working on it, we would've seen something today... we didn't... so there's nothing to show, that is the bottom line. Some timelines would be nice too. So much this. Infinity this. This * Infinity ^ Infinity. You literally killed the game until you can answer: "Will dust players be able to transfer their characters to Legion" Jesus Christ CCP so much epic fail. "Victory is reserved for those who are willing to pay it's price."

Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1042	Posted - 2014.05.03 04:16:00 - [241] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. lmao wtf does this 'little chat' even mean? enough is enough. I am canceling my eve pilot account of 3 years ( always paid, never plexed - approx 500$ spent) today. the joke is on you :). CCP is the most unprofessional backstabbing two faced company in the gaming industry. PLC, NK, Scout - before 1.8. That's right, I stack that OP Sh!t.
Aqil Aegivan The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 315	Posted - 2014.05.03 04:27:00 - [242] - Quote One Universe, One War. Laughing my ass off right now at CCP. Good luck convincing people to play Legion.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1042	Posted - 2014.05.03 04:27:00 - [243] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote: i care more about collectables you can delete 40 000 000sp but my bpos and collectables are precious to me as i spent 400 $ on something i liked Let's give them the benefit of the doubt for a bit. The devs have shown themselves to be nice guys and CCP is a business but they value their gamers as much as they do making money. I think it very likely that they will try to compensate people who spent real money. But bro you can't keep your BPOs. Super Dust will be too different in that aspect. Every dropsuit will be a blueprint or something. Items won't carry over exactly, but they've earned our trust enough I think to know that they will try to do something for us. People cry out betrayal but they're just doing what they have to do to make a great game that will last. No reason to think they will bite the hand that fed them. I'd like a taste of w/e u r smoking unless it's CCP ****. which is a distinct possibility given what u just typed up. PLC, NK, Scout - before 1.8. That's right, I stack that OP Sh!t.
Zombie Supreme Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 134	Posted - 2014.05.03 04:32:00 - [244] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. So does this mean you will be making more major updates to dust 514? Will there be a 1.9 or 2.0 for Dust 514 PS3?
Theresa Rohk The Cuddlefish Templis CALSF 48	Posted - 2014.05.03 04:44:00 - [245] - Quote Zombie Supreme wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. So does this mean you will be making more major updates to dust 514? Will there be a 1.9 or 2.0 for Dust 514 PS3? Because that statement is the most uninformative statement ever made, filled with BS sentiment. Likely not. Expect small tiny releases, if any.
The-Beard 218	Posted - 2014.05.03 04:50:00 - [246] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. Great so what you're saying is.. our footprints will forever be leading to the toliet because we are console gamers.
mollerz 3411	Posted - 2014.05.03 04:56:00 - [247] - Quote Namirial Kensai wrote: I just want my Templar suit to soem degree, thsoe BPO's were one time things from the collectors edition, and itd be beyond uncool to take that away How about any BPO. Those were specifically bought by customers due to the ten year/eve merge sold to us. The player market, etc. I mean, they really burned us. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
mollerz 3411	Posted - 2014.05.03 04:57:00 - [248] - Quote DPLK You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Kratek Heshan United Colonial Empire Army Freek Alliance 42	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:00:00 - [249] - Quote use sony to get our money so they can make a pc game
Clickets Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:02:00 - [250] - Quote I hope there is some future announcements on character Xfer or possible console versions of ANY form of DUST. I will greatly miss my characters I worked on for hours and invested $ on but some of these comments are ridiculous lol. I just don't like that they daisy chained promotions to milk the community before dropping the blade on us, knowing what was coming, that's low.

wripple TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 186	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:14:00 - [251] - Quote As long as you can transfer my hard earned SP over to Legion then I have no issues with it. Dust did always seem to be a freight train hurling itself further and further off the tracks ever since 1.7 hit, starting fresh on a platform that has the appropriate target market is probably one of the wisest decisions CCP could have made. Legion looks like everything Dust was supposed to become and so much more, I personally can't wait.
LuckyLuke Wargan HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 345	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:20:00 - [252] - Quote Hey CCP go to hell, never doing business with your sick in the head company ever again. For the way you treat your customers, I wish you to go bankrupt. I quit Dust514, and will gladly give my money for better projects run by companies that don't so earnestly try to screw their consumers in the rear. "Cry HavoK!, and let slip the dogs of war!" -Badass Gallante Sentinel- I feed on tanker tears...
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD 1337	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:24:00 - [253] - Quote sooo...any idea on how we are getting a refund for our money that is now lost on this game? still got 40$ floating on this...and apparently it aint going to transfer (and what happened to that 10 year plan we all were told about?) CBT bittervet. ex-capsuleer (thanks volunteer mods for perma-banning calathorn virpio) heavy extraordinaire
Commander Tuna KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 102	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:31:00 - [254] - Quote I may not have been an Eve Online fan but I really had hopes for Dust 514. Many other along with me gave you guys the benefit of the doubt and continued to support what could have been. To see you guys complety disregard us is travesty and makes me sick to my stomach. Never again will I trust CCP's words. This is a terrible way to do business and to treat your loyal fanbase The way they are pussyfooting around any questions on the future of Dust 514 cements this idea.
Bubbles moon Algintal Core Gallente Federation 82	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:36:00 - [255] - Quote Aqil Aegivan wrote: One Universe, One War. Laughing my ass off right now at CCP. Good luck convincing people to play Legion. That's not the problem, people will flock to Legion. Good luck convinving people to play Dust 514 for the next YEAR without any updates.
Emo Skellington The Neutral Zone 51	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:36:00 - [256] - Quote So as i can see it, and so can others, we are getting our hopes of what dust was supposed to become crushed and replaced with a PC game called Legion....... Oh yeah that makings perfectly no ******* sense at all..... WE ARE ON PS3 NOT PC Stay with the program and get your heads out of your wallets and think about what people actually care about. DUST If you are going to make Legion, finish your ideas with Dust before hand. We have been waiting toooo long for the things you have promised NZONE
LuckyLuke Wargan HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 347	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:45:00 - [257] - Quote Hey everyone, just file a complaint on BBB.org (Better Business Bureau) to report CCP for false advertising and bad business practises. The truth is they got an F rating for choosing to ignore complaints in the past. File complain for CCP North America & White wolf publishing. SCAM514
DozersMouse XIII Inner.Hell 688	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:02:00 - [258] - Quote hello i'm looking for some clarification on this clarification statment Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 575	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:25:00 - [259] - Quote So just what do you mean CCP? Are you trying to say that you are going to stay the course with the PS3? Legion looks a LOT like dust so there are a great deal of people that believe dust is getting canned for legion. These short statements that allude to things don't cut it when the community get's worked up like this. You need to come out and make a very clear easily understood statement about exactly what your intentions are with dust. It should answer some of the common questions like: Is CCP going to continue releasing content for dust such as new maps, new gear and such? Along with other common questions i can not think of right now. Biggest question i have though is, if CCP decides to cancel dust in favor of legion will legion be cross platform? Will former dust players be able to get equivelent sp and such in legion?
Badgerr Rager Dirt Nap Squad. 785	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:41:00 - [260] - Quote Instead of having news for Dust 514 you give us news that you are basically dumping it and putting the game on pc. I hate playing games on the pc (now, never used to) and prefer games on the console. So many players put a lot of time and effort into this game, not to mention money and you cannot continue with it anymore ? **** you ccp. Fanfest is about bringing excitement, not showing up with the grim reaper. Dust will be where ccp wanted it to be in the first place ONCE you get all the content you want in the game with as many issues repaired on it as possible. That when you will receive the most amount of player base and potential money. Goodnight and may Dust 514 rest in peace. I would like CCP to Biomass Legion. You pieces of Sh*t

EDIN GRACIC ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 0	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:48:00 - [261] - Quote So. Let me get this straight. .. you all get all the money that you have received from us YOUR LOYAL PLAYERS OF DUST 514 just so you can make a new version of Dust 514 and call it something else . And by doing so telling us to go screw our self for investing all these days and time and effort building up our accounts , our friendship, and out corporation .. And then expect us to follow you in this new game and start all over???? Wow. You may find some IDIOTS doing so but I promise you most of us will move on to other things as I'm sure you can read it already that a lot of us day by day player are pissed and are already loosing interest and trust in CCP. I suggest you all fix this stupid idea you call Project Legion and stay loyal to us as we have been loyal to you. Good luck in making the right choice. ...
Knechtmich United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 9	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:58:00 - [262] - Quote 1. stop playing DUST ! 2. delete it ! 3. never again play a ccp game ! Project Legion --->
Kratek Heshan United Colonial Empire Army Freek Alliance 43	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:59:00 - [263] - Quote the ps3 can handle legion grapics its just like killzone 3
Ryan Noir Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 10	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:09:00 - [264] - Quote Kratek Heshan wrote: the ps3 can handle legion grapics its just like killzone 3 The problem here is marketing I think. Look at it this way, they released Dust f2p in the hopes that you players would interact with EVE Online and go...oh that game looks fun too, grab the PC sign up for a trial pay for a month CCP then goes $$$ Cha-ching, we just made money off their Dust micro-trans AND snagged them into EVE. However, it did not work the way they planned, console players wanted to stick with their platform and as a result they are now putting the game on PC in hopes to snag new potential EVE players from there. Why? Well if Legion is on PC and people discover it, play it, find EVE in it, and realize its a game ALSO on PC. They are more likely to subscribe over a PS3 player. The PS3 can indeed handle it, and the PS4 should be able to run it better than most PC rigs, unless you have a couple thousand dollar system. However, when it comes to games...money talks and BS walks. Its a real shame too, I personally find it easier to control fps with my thumb than my entire hand. I think you all may have seen this coming though when mouse/keyboard controls got superior aim assist over controllers. CCP, everyone in EVE always raggs on Blizzard for WoW...they too like to charge out the ass and make tons of money. However, at least they do it with a f**king smile and attempt to provide customer service, you guys just do it with your viking attitude..."ME TAKE MONEY...YOU GO BYE"
Kratek Heshan United Colonial Empire Army Freek Alliance 43	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:17:00 - [265] - Quote and here is the other problem all those thing the ne maps the drones they all promise us they will put it on dust514 last fanfest right and now they made a new game for pc and put the things they promise us on the new game thats why a lot of dust514 fans got disappointed
medicure Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad. 10	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:18:00 - [266] - Quote BOO THIS MAN BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Spartan MK420 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 274	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:30:00 - [267] - Quote Oh I'm sorry. Is this where we are supposed to feed into more cognitive bullshit , say that we're sorry ,and give you our money again? Fck you CCP Official Unofficial D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N team mascot.*
Nirwanda Vaughns 426th Infantry 616	Posted - 2014.05.03 08:12:00 - [268] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. once again a lot of words that mean nothing. may as well just admit the whole announcement was a bit of a balls up once again Rolling with the punches
Shin Makenshi Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy 1	Posted - 2014.05.03 08:43:00 - [269] - Quote What you meant to say was "Fuc... I mean thank you all you console players that paid money for us to develop this game on PC." I mean it would be different if you said it was coming out on ps4 but as it stands I want my money back.
Ducttape Tinker Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 44	Posted - 2014.05.03 09:29:00 - [270] - Quote CCP dear CCP, hide yourself behind you true love the pc community. Ps3 one was used by you like guinea pigs. You used their money for funding this DUST 2.0 for someone else. Thank you for calrification what s[i[c[k s]h]a]t]e] f]c]u]k]s] CCP like company is. Stop with lies how awesome we are and how you love us. If you love someone you dot do this to her/him. Shame on you i pray for massive devs issues/setback/problems on DUST2.0/Legion. "Just return back to see how this dust falling in to rust."

PARKOUR PRACTIONER R 0 N 1 N 1404	Posted - 2014.05.03 09:32:00 - [271] - Quote Ducttape Tinker wrote: CCP dear CCP, hide yourself behind you true love the pc community. Ps3 one was used by you like guinea pigs. You used their money for funding this DUST 2.0 for someone else. Thank you for calrification what s[i[c[k s]h]a]t]e] f]c]u]k]s] CCP like company is. Stop with lies how awesome we are and how you love us. If you love someone you dot do this to her/him. Shame on you i pray for massive devs issues/setback/problems on DUST2.0/Legion. I'm really sorry bro. Scout Forever GJR approved Cause sharing means caring, and caring means sharing
Apterous Angel Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1	Posted - 2014.05.03 09:52:00 - [272] - Quote Our community was just a Beta Test for your new game... Great! Thanks for the slap in the face. Forget monetary refunds... I want my time back!
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2483	Posted - 2014.05.03 10:32:00 - [273] - Quote Ryan Noir wrote: [quote=Kratek Heshan]The PS3 can indeed handle it, and the PS4 should be able to run it better than most PC rigs, unless you have a couple thousand dollar system. You overestimate the abilities of the PS4. My PC is about 5 years old and can run games with better graphics than what you can ever see on a PS4. You need a 300 maybe 400 buck PC and it beats the PS4. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 835	Posted - 2014.05.03 10:43:00 - [274] - Quote 14 pages and no clarification! You should lock this thread for OP trolling. They didn't stop taking money when they knew Dust was over. They held an event to get even more! CCP boycott for life.
Kierkegaard Soren Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 396	Posted - 2014.05.03 10:46:00 - [275] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. What utter garbage. Reading between the lines, what I'm seeing is "Dust is not the game we want it to be, so we're starting from scratch." Which is fine, actually. Dust is not great. We made it great through perseverance and blind devotion, but that will only get you so far. legion looks exceptional. But let's not kid ourselves here when you talk about not knowing what legion will become. It's Dust Done Good, and by inference, this version we have before us now is a relic. Nobody here saw that coming. We all acted as though Dust ps3 had a future, a development plan, and that you were committed to growing it into the game we all wanted it to be. What you've done here this week is just terrible. Incompetent. Poor. I want frank questions and honest answers, not flowery crap with meaningless prattle. Dedicated Commando. "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." -Paul Atreides.
Commander Tuna KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 104	Posted - 2014.05.03 11:21:00 - [276] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Ryan Noir wrote: [quote=Kratek Heshan]The PS3 can indeed handle it, and the PS4 should be able to run it better than most PC rigs, unless you have a couple thousand dollar system. You overestimate the abilities of the PS4. My PC is about 5 years old and can run games with better graphics than what you can ever see on a PS4. I don't think the ps4 is some holy grail but you are so full of ****.
Kratek Heshan United Colonial Empire Army Freek Alliance 44	Posted - 2014.05.03 11:26:00 - [277] - Quote lot negative comments and unhappy customers ccp may change there mind if not give us our money back we bought boosters and other things to help ccp to make this game better not to put our console money on the pc and make the cool things they promise us last fanfest that they will put it on dust514 and now they put it on a different game what a disappointment ccp. you really know how to treat your customers..... T.T
IVIaster LUKE 471	Posted - 2014.05.03 11:27:00 - [278] - Quote F U C K you CCP! Vote CCP the worst company of the year for 2014. They got my vote. o7 P.s. Suck a dick CCP Rouge!
Moonracer2000 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 744	Posted - 2014.05.03 11:27:00 - [279] - Quote Beta tested and dropped about $150 into this game over time to support development of an interesting concept from a company that has kept another bold concept game (EVE) running and successful for years. I've enjoyed watching Dust slowly move towards something more than a fancy lobby shooter. I took several months off, came back and started liking Dust again (crazy right?). I was even thinking of going back and trying EVE again. But this news (and CCP's behavior just prior) does not inspire me. The lack of straight answers from CCP doesn't help either. It's going to take a lot of work to fix this situation.
Jake Diesel BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 159	Posted - 2014.05.03 11:33:00 - [280] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Ryan Noir wrote: [quote=Kratek Heshan]The PS3 can indeed handle it, and the PS4 should be able to run it better than most PC rigs, unless you have a couple thousand dollar system. You overestimate the abilities of the PS4. My PC is about 5 years old and can run games with better graphics than what you can ever see on a PS4. You need a 300 maybe 400 buck PC and it beats the PS4. So here's a couple of questions and I'd like a straight answer from you. Of course this has to be based on a very high end game like battlefield 4 or equivalent with max settings: How many years have you been gaming on pc? How much have you spent on pc upgrades since you started pc gaming? Be honest please. What size screen are you using for gaming? 17"? 24"? 40"? 50"? 80"? 100"? What resolution are you running with max settings? What's your stable framerate running on with max settings? And I don't mean 60 frames and drops to 30 frames when it's graphic intensive. That's not stable. I want proof. Not words. What game are you using for these questionnaires? What pc game are you comparing to what PS4 game when you say that your $400 pc beats PS4? When I find more questions, I'll add here. Please answer all the above.

KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1039	Posted - 2014.05.03 12:03:00 - [281] - Quote It is understandable that the lacking PS3 system can't handle everything visioned for Dust. For example, fighters and 100+ vs 100+ combat (yeah I do know certain game(s) managed to do that). The big issue is that: Legion seems to give not only looting and other extras but also has same pvp so is a direct competitor to Dust. Competitor, and that brings players the legitimate fear of being a replacement. Came back to Dust from a break and what did I find? Cloakies with physical invisibility which works in all situations.=(
Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command 491	Posted - 2014.05.03 12:07:00 - [282] - Quote Personally, I just unsubbed an Eve account. I felt morally obliged to do so.
Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 2400	Posted - 2014.05.03 12:52:00 - [283] - Quote Just stopping by to say Final Fantasy A Realm Reborn t(-_-t) Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Doc Browner Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 238	Posted - 2014.05.03 12:59:00 - [284] - Quote what i hear is: 1)Please buy AURUM even though we are giving you the shaft. 2)Even though we are as honest as the president of the USA, trust us anyway 3)We Are Laughing Our Asses off at you all right now, always have, always will I spill my Blood for Freedom and righteousness
MANDALORIan Vi Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 7	Posted - 2014.05.03 13:24:00 - [285] - Quote so glad I wasted my time with this game
Ryan Noir Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2014.05.03 13:26:00 - [286] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Ryan Noir wrote: [quote=Kratek Heshan]The PS3 can indeed handle it, and the PS4 should be able to run it better than most PC rigs, unless you have a couple thousand dollar system. You overestimate the abilities of the PS4. My PC is about 5 years old and can run games with better graphics than what you can ever see on a PS4. You need a 300 maybe 400 buck PC and it beats the PS4. You cant get a PC for 400 bucks to even run eve half decent...so I know thats total BS. Your PC is running processes that utilizes system resources not relevant to the game. Whereas a console is not limited to such restrictions, all the resources go toward the game 100%. I have a pretty decent built PC from 2009 and even it struggles to run eve on mid graphics, I KNOW your 5 year old PC can not out perform a PS4...maybe just maybe be comparable to PS3 but thats as close as you are getting.
Dread Pyrate Roberts Titus Warfare Corporation 1	Posted - 2014.05.03 14:29:00 - [287] - Quote Ryan Noir wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Ryan Noir wrote: [quote=Kratek Heshan]The PS3 can indeed handle it, and the PS4 should be able to run it better than most PC rigs, unless you have a couple thousand dollar system. You overestimate the abilities of the PS4. My PC is about 5 years old and can run games with better graphics than what you can ever see on a PS4. You need a 300 maybe 400 buck PC and it beats the PS4. You cant get a PC for 400 bucks to even run eve half decent...so I know thats total BS. Your PC is running processes that utilizes system resources not relevant to the game. Whereas a console is not limited to such restrictions, all the resources go toward the game 100%. I have a pretty decent built PC from 2009 and even it struggles to run eve on mid graphics, I KNOW your 5 year old PC can not out perform a PS4...maybe just maybe be comparable to PS3 but thats as close as you are getting. Any modern PC should run EVE on decent settings. My $600 laptop( HP Envy DV6, 3rd gen I-7, Intel HD4000 graphics) will run EVE on high, PlanetSide2 on medium, and COD Ghost on low settings.
DEADPOOL RODNI Random Gunz Galactic Skyfleet Empire 0	Posted - 2014.05.03 14:45:00 - [288] - Quote What you have done to dust players is like saying to eve pilots, we are removing all skill points and you will need to buy a joy stick to play Thank you for all you money. Now get out Look what you've done to all of us CCP
DeathhtaeD Dust-Cloud 60	Posted - 2014.05.03 14:59:00 - [289] - Quote Everybody knows that PS3 won-¦t live forever... But it aint dead yet..! This consol will live for many years to come. There are still new games developed to pS3, and will too for years to come. I just hope that you, CCP, know this too..!? To say things that you-¦ve done, is to say that "-we are tired at DUST, and wanna start another cool game you can **-spend your money at so we can earn more cash on you sorrow souls.." So, CCP, have you desided yet, which team has pulled the shortest straw to be the devleoper for your beloved dying DUST? "- Oh darn,,, I got DUST.. Well, better look for a new employer, because DUst has a dev-budget of 50 bucks now.." I actually loged in today to read some good news about new updates and got this shoved up my ***, that I lost the interrest in spending more AUR into the game anymore. Perhaps I will spend my saved up millions on proto-gear and leave the game when its gone........ or just stop where I am now..!
reaper jt Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 26	Posted - 2014.05.03 15:01:00 - [290] - Quote Any updates from ccp ? chracter transfers plans for dust anything what so ever?

NAV HIV Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 1784	Posted - 2014.05.03 15:15:00 - [291] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. Just need an answer to one very simple question. - PC only or PC and PS4 I will not waste my time and money if it's PC only to get treated like this again two years down the road. No Answer I SEE ?!
CHECHOMAN Valor Coalition Red Whines. 355	Posted - 2014.05.03 15:26:00 - [292] - Quote In LEGION PROJECT, I want my account with my SP dust514 ISK'S AND'S, ccp I abandon sony, but not us ... And the more that we believed in you and we acquired pack, and aurum bossters ------------ FUTURE PROJECT LEGION HISPANO CORP [ FPLHC] ---------- This is what you would have to create the English-speaking community " FUTURE CORPORATION OF THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY PROJECT FOR LEGION (DUST PC), WHICH NOW IT IS UP'S FIGHT FOR OUR SP ISK'S AND WE AND THE LEGION TRANSFERRING A PROJECT " . En PROJECT LEGION , quiero mi cuenta de dust514 con mis SP'S Y ISK'S , ccp abandone a sony , pero no a nosotros ...
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 2921	Posted - 2014.05.03 15:31:00 - [293] - Quote reaper jt wrote: Any updates from ccp ? chracter transfers plans for dust anything what so ever? Fugg a character transfer.........MANY of us are not buying or upgrading our pcs to play dust. Even if we can run Legion on our current pcs, we are console gamers. And we're not making the switch. CCP doesn't care about the guys that were here spending real money while they learn what they could..so whatevers weRideNDie2getha since 2010
castba Penguin's March 416	Posted - 2014.05.03 23:09:00 - [294] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: I don't care if it's a new game with a new name. It look, feels, has the same lore and runs on better machines than dust. Seriously, it still dust, except better. I don't get why people are freaking out so much. Because some people do not want to game on PC. How difficult is that to understand? All CCP needed to do was state that this is the next iteration of dust and will be cross platform on PC and PS4. I dare say the would have rrceived much more positive feedback if they had stated this. Also, if it is in such early development, can they not work on it with the aim to go to PC as well as PS4. This seems so simple.
Vanadis Radort Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 14	Posted - 2014.05.04 17:47:00 - [295] - Quote I'm not sure but: You actually had 2 years needs to understand that Sony had correctly threaded and you need to abandon ship? The community has HURLE you everywhere, you have not listened. OR SO Dust514 only served to finance Legion. In any case, I'd be on Legion, and that a FPS (FINALLY A REAL!) PCC will be on PC rejoice, bravo great decision!
Ducttape Tinker Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 111	Posted - 2014.05.04 17:51:00 - [296] - Quote For everyone who want to know how CCP rouge and his team really loving us there is an article for you. BTW take a sick bags with you!! "Just return back to see how this dust falling in to rust."
petko777 Jastrab keiretsu 3	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:03:00 - [297] - Quote We as Dust merc and Eve pilot community must push CCP via forums , Facebook, Twiter. I as Eve pilot hat 50.000.000 SP and Dust merc 25.000.000 Sp I spend cca 400Gé¼ to AUR and EVE subscription it's lot of my free time and some money... I mean key is continuity and no waste our SP . CCP is on very thin Ice ... This part of market it's under pressure lot online game lost they players... OK I like play Dust on my big TV but I know to limitation PS3 or console systems when Dust evolve to PC it's OK but I wanted my SP!!!!
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1641	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:07:00 - [298] - Quote WELCOME TO LEGION
evil clown82 InGlouriuos Clone Operatives 1	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:22:00 - [299] - Quote i been with u guys for a year, and the fact i see u guys made a new game sounds great. i seen the game looks good for ps4 how it looks and all,but i have all ways been playing dust all my life and i whont never change that. so if this new game makes it?.........whats going to happen to dust players?...and all so if this is for pc.i dont think my comp whont play it since my comp is crap lol, but if u bring this to ps4 then ill see wats up...but for now ill rather keep playing dust and hope u guys keep on working on it more.p.s just know u have ppl who love the work dust 514 and yes u will have nagtive ppl saying sht but hey thats them but us who love it, it just means its a great and fun game but anyway let us know ccp and bring us news and wats going to happen tc.
Terminus Dwyryd Marddach Mawr 26	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:59:00 - [300] - Quote Well, the good news is that I needn't worry about getting a PS/4. Dust was the only reason to get a PS/3 and I was thinking of upgrading it when this one dies. To be honest, I don't have the time to play Eve much these days (I am a full time carer for my wife) so I can get on and play maybe half a dozen battles a week but can't find the time to get immersed into Eve by taking a ship out and doing something. Whilst I have no experience of console shooters other than Dust I have to say that I am rather disappointed in it but I continue purely because it's in the Eve universe. I just hope that Legion will be merge into Eve better and the removal of Dust doesn't damage anything. As for my poor Dust character I don't think that I will spend any more AUR on weapons and just let that fade out and now play for free. So, in a way, CCP have done me a favour and I will be pleased to be seeing something on the PC. I expect that there will be lots of rants by illterate fourteen year olds unused to Real Life and the workings of the Real World which were behind this decision but, to be honest, Dust wasn't what I expected nor did it live up to expectations so it's right and proper that it's getting a rebuild from scratch. I support this decision by CCP and I appreciate the notice given and will be acting accordingly. - Malc Pam: "I wonder what my name means in Welsh" Nessa: "Why?"

Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 5290	Posted - 2014.05.04 21:01:00 - [301] - Quote Ankbar Latrommi wrote: LittleCuteBunny wrote: Not only is CCP setting a precedent over console product development with a connection between platforms. It also sets precedents of its corporate ethics, endeavors, misguiding information and advertisement. A stain that might be difficult to erase. You mean like Hillmar(?) saying "Don't listen to what they{the players} say, just watch what they do."? You'll notice that most people involved still remember that event. Yourself included. I don't see this being too much different.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 5290	Posted - 2014.05.04 21:12:00 - [302] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Happy Violentime wrote: I'll watch if you're going to execute him and the CPM live on air... The CPM had no power in this. They were, in fact, ignored when they suggested CCP announce this far sooner. though its worth noting they remained quiet when they could have leaked it anonymously. nda or not their responsibility is to the players Whatever, man. Breaching NDAs tends to **** you over for any future employment opportunities that require discretion. It is, after all, a form of contract. If you breach contract in one case, what's to stop you doing so in others? Breaching NDAs for solid and defensible reasons tends to encourage employers with anything resembling a sense of ethics. If you breach a contract for extremely valid reasons, then they'll know you're willing to break the rules when it's actually a good idea to do so. Sometimes, jumping over the fence right next to that "do not cross" sign is the best way to reach the little kid who climbed into the lion's enclosure. And sometimes, spoiling the "surprise" someone wanted to give their fans is worth it so they don't end up in a state like CCP just did. Their job was always meant to involve a responsibility to THE PLAYERS, and they failed. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I've been under NDA before, and I know how they work. If I was part of CPM, and I knew this was coming, as soon as I knew about both Legion AND the sales in DUST, I would have said "Tell them NOW or I will" and screw the NDA. They intentionally gouged players, KNOWING many of those players WON'T be following the game to the new platform, by continuing to tell us the game is going to keep running, and by NOT telling us their plans when we had been given solid reason to expect something VERY different from what they're offering.
TheWee BabySeamus Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad. 94	Posted - 2014.05.04 21:15:00 - [303] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Hey guys, So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514. "Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us." I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. DEAR CCP, YOU ARE A BUNCH OF HALF ASSED AMATEURS. THAT IS ALL. Have fun putting thumbs up butts around the office Got knows none of you can actually use your hands for making/playing games so I guess "Thumb Jamming" is the next logical choice. Also, Elder Scrolls > any game CCP has/will release because..............well like I said you are all half assed amateurs. Enjoy our monies, you most likely won't see 90% of this community ever pick up a CCP game ever again, and you can bet the word that "CCP screws its players over" will spread like wild fire. DDB Director & Bitter Vet My Minmatar Heavy eats Medium frames for a snack..............I'm fat :( Fuck off CCP ,,l,,
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 5290	Posted - 2014.05.04 21:20:00 - [304] - Quote Aeladon Leiko wrote: just canceled my eve account. i had 5 at one time. went down to 1 cause i am paying for a wedding here in august...needed to save some money on the slow time for me at work. i'm back to 60 hours...was going to activate the other 4. i canceled my last one instead - frankly cause of this guy: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=159617 ccp you are a joke. "EVE Online Subscription Cancelled You have cancelled your EVE Online subscription. Your account will be suspended at the end of the current subscription period, expiring on 14 May 2014. Your characters will be stored safely and be ready for you to enjoy again should you decide to return. If you feel that this cancellation has been made in error, you can quickly and easily reopen your account by clicking below." the error was not mine ccp...not mine at all. You'll notice the linked post there has 350 likes. THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY LIKES. What does a dev get when trying to "clarify" things and failing miserably? 25. I know some of that is fueled by rage, but plenty is fueled quite simply by CCP failing us miserably. There are also many posts in this thread with 50+ likes pointing out how badly CCP have screwed things up here, with at least one I've noticed with over 150 likes.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 5290	Posted - 2014.05.04 21:29:00 - [305] - Quote Jerry Swiss wrote: its hurt :( i pay 2 years for Legion :( will my money back!!! For 2 weecks ccp bring Omega Booster, and i pay a loot of them, will i was sure Dust 514 comming Awsome new Updates. and news on Fanfest. Sony are refunding recent Aurum purchases for DUST if you contact them. They're doing damage control on this mess better than CCP right now. The money you spent on Omega Boosters CAN be refunded.
Ender Storm Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 63	Posted - 2014.05.05 11:38:00 - [306] - Quote psyanyde wrote: Ender Storm wrote: The thing is that Legion was just shown, it may not even become a Thing That kinda makes things in fact worse 'Hey guise we're gonna stop working on dust and focus on a game that might not ever see the light of day Thanks for all your money -CCP Douche' Except they said they will continue to work on Dust..... Oh well, people are just venting in this thread, no one reasoning.
Ender Storm Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 63	Posted - 2014.05.05 11:46:00 - [307] - Quote Ryan Noir wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Ryan Noir wrote: [quote=Kratek Heshan]The PS3 can indeed handle it, and the PS4 should be able to run it better than most PC rigs, unless you have a couple thousand dollar system. You overestimate the abilities of the PS4. My PC is about 5 years old and can run games with better graphics than what you can ever see on a PS4. You need a 300 maybe 400 buck PC and it beats the PS4. You cant get a PC for 400 bucks to even run eve half decent...so I know thats total BS. Your PC is running processes that utilizes system resources not relevant to the game. Whereas a console is not limited to such restrictions, all the resources go toward the game 100%. I have a pretty decent built PC from 2009 and even it struggles to run eve on mid graphics, I KNOW your 5 year old PC can not out perform a PS4...maybe just maybe be comparable to PS3 but thats as close as you are getting. You must have a fraked up system then. I have an old bastard of an E8400, its just a dual core running at 3.6ghz, 4gb ram, a good graphics card GTX570 1.2gb, and it runs well anything I throw at it at or near maximum settings. I can run a 2 games at once if i so wish, or multiple EVE clients no problem. So yeah, you can build a decent ps4 killer for a good value and not spend that much on it. But I would put the $$$ at a $500-$600 range.
Ender Storm Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 63	Posted - 2014.05.05 11:53:00 - [308] - Quote reaper jt wrote: Any updates from ccp ? chracter transfers plans for dust anything what so ever? They probably will announce its possible..... in maybe 2-3 years from now? Dont panic... People are acting like electrical cars are a thing and combustion cars would be out of market today...
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