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Aikuchi Tomaru
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Posted - 2014.05.02 18:27:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Hey guys,
So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514.
"Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us."
I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too.
Currently there is not much you can do. Sorry. You messed up big time. You announced that way to early. Before you figured out what to do with Dust. What did you expect to happen?
You announced the game you were promising us since 2009 again... for PC... with no concrete plans what you can give the Dust players who have supported you for years now. Heck. Had you at least that figured out the backlash wouldn't have been as severe.
How are we supposed to react? Of course legion is only a project at the moment. But it's THE SAME project Dust is... or was. And you already told us that it gets some features you originally planned for Dust, which in turn won't get them anymore.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
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Posted - 2014.05.02 18:37:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:Only thing I care about is legion for PS4 with character transfer. Anything else means absolutely nothing.
PS4 or PC doesn't matter at all. The only thing that matters is character transfer.
If they can't accomplish Dust on PS3 then I have to accept it. I have no problem in switching to PC to finally see the game I was always waiting for. But I don't want to see the progress I made with my char during the last year to be in vain. I don't want to see the money I spent on Dust to turn into nothing because my character and his BPOs don't carry over. I don't want that to become nothing. I don't want to start at Zero again in Legion even though it's basically Dust 2.0. Or what Dust 2.0 should've been.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
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Posted - 2014.05.02 19:03:00 -
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My stream broke up after they said "We won't leave anyone behind" what did they say? Did thy say something about compensating us or was it the "Dust will continue" stuff?
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Aikuchi Tomaru
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Posted - 2014.05.02 19:27:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Hey guys,
So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514.
"Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us."
I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. and yet theres not one mention of dust 514 in that quote. we want to know about dust. not legion. we know plenty about legion because its all you talked about during the dust keynote. we want to know what the plans for dust are. not legion whats happening to dust. not legion. all your doing is talking about legion and it gives the impression dust has completely been swept under the rug. also id watch the live interview with him but it costs 5$ to watch past videos since i probably missed it.
Dust is done for. That's pretty obvious. The only thing we can hope for now is for our chars to transfer over to Legion. And CCP doesn't want to give a clear answer on that currently.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
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Posted - 2014.05.02 19:37:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:I don't care if it's a new game with a new name. It look, feels, has the same lore and runs on better machines than dust. Seriously, it still dust, except better. I don't get why people are freaking out so much.
Looks like, feels like, has the same lore, uses the same assets, is played on the same maps and promises the same stuff Dust promised 5 years ago when it was announced...
We freak out so much because our chars aren't save. Legion is basically Dust 2.0 and we won't keep our SP, assets or BPOs. Stuff many of us paid for! Heck: I used up about 170 bucks to buy SP boosters. And now all of that won't carry over? That's why so many of us are freaking out. It's not about the game. Legion looks great. It's about how CCP screws our current progress over and all the time and money we invested on getting there.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
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Posted - 2014.05.02 19:43:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:reaper jt wrote:Booker DaFooker wrote:Flix Keptick wrote:Overview of legion:
- transfer dust to pc
- Add all the awesome stuff we've been promised
- PvE
Pretty much counterweights the negative aspects imho. Hopefully characters can be transfered. LET LEGION RISE FROM THE DUST!!! Edit: since some people don't get it I'll put this here. Pc and Ps4 have the same infrastructure, this means that they can both run the exact same games (lowered performance on the ps4 I guess). Basically, having it on pc means that it would most likely ALSO be on Ps4. At last someone else gets it Even Dust 514 is developed ON PC's This is the same dev process they would need to follow whatever platform they were developing for and ccp praetorian just pretty much confirmed this at fanfest No its the way ccp as gone about this is why we are mad trust has been broken here there were much better ways to do this talking to the community not holding a dust keynote and turn around and talk about legion. Then to say we dont know if we can transfer sp ect . Listen here are quick specs of the two computers i own Gpu gtx 680 Intel Core i7-4770K Haswell 3.5GHz 8 gigs of ram windows 7 64 bit. Second 2 gtx 780s amd 8 core 8350 16 gigs of ram windows 7 64 bit. So its not that i dont have a computer to play it hell low end machines with lower settings and restitution could play it. But What i am saying is the way they went about it was well no other way to put it the worst then to say oh no character transfers then oh we dont know. I think tho everyone wantas a legitimate response from ccp well, it's basically an updated dust. I don't see what the problem is.
The problem is that we probably won't be able to transfer our characters to Legion and due to that all our money and time invested in Dust will be for nothing.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
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Posted - 2014.05.02 19:49:00 -
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Turns out this guy was right: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=116442
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Aikuchi Tomaru
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Posted - 2014.05.02 20:04:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Saberwing,
The only thing you need to know about being fair to your player base as you transition from dust to legion...
It has to be developed for the PS4 or this whole thing is a non-starter. In addition:
1) Toon name preservation and SP transfer. 2) BPO equivalent transfer. 3) Equipment equivalent transfer or payout in ISK. 4) Fractional ISK transfer. 5) Aurum transfer.
If you can't accomplish that, why would any player ever trust your products with their time and money. We supported this game and stuck with it based on the promise of a ten year plan. You are making massive massive mistakes. It is hard for me to comprehend you aren't seeing how bad you guys pwn3d your community. You didn't just harm your community. You nuked it. And you are telling me you did this unwittingly?!
I don't care much about the PS4 version. I mean one of the reasons they switch to PC is basically because they have more freedom, can use a test server and don't have to get everything checked by Sony.
All the other points I agree with.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
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Posted - 2014.05.02 20:59:00 -
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Ghural wrote:Dust514 is going to continue as a seperate product eh?
They why is that nothing at all was announced for Dust514 during the Dust keynote?
Because https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUUDBJ86z8s
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Aikuchi Tomaru
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Posted - 2014.05.02 22:15:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Hey guys,
So following on from all of the questions I've seen on the forums, I grabbed CCP Rouge for a quick chat and we wanted to add a few words on the introduction of Project Legion and how it relates to DUST 514.
"Today's discussions have brought a flurry of excitement and nerves, and I wanted to address some of those feelings here. Project Legion is at the moment just that, a project in early development. Our, and by our I mean CCP's, goals, have always been to create a persistent universe where your footprints are eternally preserved in the sand. This has always been our strategy and is fundamentally important to us. Because it is still so early for Project Legion we have not yet discovered exactly what form this will take, should the project grow we will do whatever we can to bring you and your footsteps with us."
I've also grabbed him for a live interview on EVE TV in just a moment to answer some of your questions, so make sure to tune in for that too. What exactly is this supposed to clarify about Dust?
Ah, no. This is not about Dust. It's for CCP to tell you how awesome legion is and how it will be what they promised 5 years ago for Dust.
And remember. They've shown what "We are actually working on."
So well: They are "actually working on" Legion and not on Dust. Makes Sense.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
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Posted - 2014.05.02 22:21:00 -
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Renolissa wrote:all time i whait this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw0gOjOWDuIbut where this? If i see this near future i say "yes, i wana pay CCP" But now we all have just laaaaagedgame with grass growing in 15-20 meters... ...and new project on PC....
"Project Legion: E3 2011 Trailer"
The intern just ****** up the name. HONESTLY!
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Aikuchi Tomaru
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Posted - 2014.05.03 10:32:00 -
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Ryan Noir wrote:[quote=Kratek Heshan]The PS3 can indeed handle it, and the PS4 should be able to run it better than most PC rigs, unless you have a couple thousand dollar system.
You overestimate the abilities of the PS4. My PC is about 5 years old and can run games with better graphics than what you can ever see on a PS4. You need a 300 maybe 400 buck PC and it beats the PS4.
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