Dude shutup, do you have any idea how much more money and salvage I get when people call in those Failtanks =)

Many loltankers say "We should be able to solo you and you shouldn't because we're just dumb"

Well lets name the most common example of AV (with swarms). You are mid range (because long range swarms are easily avoidable), the tank is firing at you and so are the enemy infantry. If you are really lucky then you are able to wail on the tank, and destroy it, which most times is not the case. We will be gunned down by infantry long before this happens.

Now lets name the perfect example (The ones people QQ about). The tank drives in a wide open field. Not paying attention, the Swarms wail on him to death with everything it's got, and the tanker QQs about being destroyed.

So CCP listens to thier BS reasons and balance AV around teamwork. So for arguments sake, lets say that it now takes 3 people (half a squad) to tank out a tank. The LOLTank squad now uses 5-6 tanks, and we all have to use teamwork to defeat them.

But it is "balanced" to force 3 people to take out ONE Tank.

That would mean 15-16 people on AV just to deal with them (WHICH IS ONE ENTIRE TEAM!). And what about the enemy infantry? You think that they are just gonna sit there and watch the fireworks? NO!! They will go after all the objectives while the tanks freely stomp everyone without good AV resistance.

Then you have the drug users who say MLT AV OHKO's thier "good" loltank. Well the only way to OHKO a "good" loltank would be to have Profecincy lvl 4 or 5 and a complex damage mod.

These loltankers want tanks to become god and have MCC level health and resistance. They know what would happen if we "balance" AV this way. Don't let them stomp us! AV users unite! Let your voice be heard and put this evil to rest.

And if CCP does listen to the tankers and tanks become the most OP thing in video game history, I'm gonna file a help ticket and Demand 1B ISK and 1M AUR, as well as a store front picture on the market of me saying I TOLD YOU SO!

Hey for all those who doubt that I have a tank, I'll be on in 10 minutes if you have to see it to believe it.

I doubt you have the ability to order a pizza from one of the restaurants in my town and have it delivered to me, PROVE ME WRONG! Pepperoni please!

I'll bet you 20 Million ISK

Mail me in-game if your on

I have a Falchion at Level 3 with proto missile turrets, two 30% hardeners, 6300 Shields and 2 Damage mods but it wasn't enough to destroy a Ion Cannon Madrugar with 5000 Armor + Proto Rep + 2 hardeners... I TRIED MY BEST DAMN IT.

I have a Falchion at Level 3 with proto missile turrets, two 30% hardeners, 6300 Shields and 2 Damage mods but it wasn't enough to destroy a Ion Cannon Madrugar with 5000 Armor + Proto Rep + 2 hardeners... I TRIED MY BEST DAMN IT.

I'll just say it one more time.

Tank or no tank, Proto or MLT.

If you can Solo playing as a tanker; then you should be able to solo said tanker if you have equally tier'd equipment.




Why because this is for balance sake, even if you spent 50 milion sp and 500 billions in tanks, if you get in a game ALONE, then ALONE you should be able to die....

Infantry can do MANY things a tank cannot. Why should one person take out a tank? This kicks tanks out literally their ONLY role.

When my tank costs 100k and i can hack points from it and throw down uplinks, then it should be abode to be solod.

Jesus Christ you're so dumb.

You cant spawn at a mobile cru until you bleed out unlike an uplink and fitting one costs you lots of ehp.

Infantry have a myriad of roles that cannot be performed by vehicles.

This is why you only brong one tank to pc. You can't afford to lose the footpower.

Stop talking if you have no idea how matches are played.

He uses forge guns I believe.

This is one reason I'm glad CCP doesn't listen to their players.

90% of the player base are idiots.

Many loltankers say "We should be able to solo you and you shouldn't because we're just dumb"

Well lets name the most common example of AV (with swarms). You are mid range (because long range swarms are easily avoidable), the tank is firing at you and so are the enemy infantry. If you are really lucky then you are able to wail on the tank, and destroy it, which most times is not the case. We will be gunned down by infantry long before this happens.

Now lets name the perfect example (The ones people QQ about). The tank drives in a wide open field. Not paying attention, the Swarms wail on him to death with everything it's got, and the tanker QQs about being destroyed.

So CCP listens to thier BS reasons and balance AV around teamwork. So for arguments sake, lets say that it now takes 3 people (half a squad) to tank out a tank. The LOLTank squad now uses 5-6 tanks, and we all have to use teamwork to defeat them.

But it is "balanced" to force 3 people to take out ONE Tank.

That would mean 15-16 people on AV just to deal with them (WHICH IS ONE ENTIRE TEAM!). And what about the enemy infantry? You think that they are just gonna sit there and watch the fireworks? NO!! They will go after all the objectives while the tanks freely stomp everyone without good AV resistance.

Then you have the drug users who say MLT AV OHKO's thier "good" loltank. Well the only way to OHKO a "good" loltank would be to have Profecincy lvl 4 or 5 and a complex damage mod.

These loltankers want tanks to become god and have MCC level health and resistance. They know what would happen if we "balance" AV this way. Don't let them stomp us! AV users unite! Let your voice be heard and put this evil to rest.

And if CCP does listen to the tankers and tanks become the most OP thing in video game history, I'm gonna file a help ticket and Demand 1B ISK and 1M AUR, as well as a store front picture on the market of me saying I TOLD YOU SO!

This? Again?

But here is a simple question, why should 1 man in a tank, require more than 1 man with av to neutrilize?

Answers that aren't valid:

I have invested Money and SP
So did the guy using Proto AV

Its a tank
Against anti-tank weaponry

It doesn't fit the rock paper scissors style of this game
Of course it does Infantry < Tank < AV < Infantry

Its supposed to be highly armoured
So is the heavy

Our weapons are useless
The new ones coming soon look pretty damn good to me

I can't fufill my role if I can't stay on the frontline
of course you can, tanks are infantry close support, not muderous juggernauts

Why cant the best counter to a tank be another tank?

Investing less than 2mil for lolswarms is not an investment when it takes at least 8mil for the basic tank and costs 10times more at least, at least investing in the FG is more of an investement because of the suit

Its a tank, meaning its supposed to be the most heavily armored thing on the battlefield, yet it get solo'd frequently because lolbasic vehicle vs proto AV

The heavy is not that highly armored, also a scout or medium suit using swarms is not highly armored at all so that goes out the window completely as they bunny hop the map

Our weapons are useless, blaster hit detection is poor, railguns have less damage and splash than a FG while costing 10times more in ISK, missiles barely hit infantry half the time unless you get a direct hit and cant kill with splash while the MD can

Why cant the best counter to a tank be another tank?

Investing less than 2mil for lolswarms is not an investment when it takes at least 8mil for the basic tank and costs 10times more at least, at least investing in the FG is more of an investement because of the suit

Its a tank, meaning its supposed to be the most heavily armored thing on the battlefield, yet it get solo'd frequently because lolbasic vehicle vs proto AV

The heavy is not that highly armored, also a scout or medium suit using swarms is not highly armored at all so that goes out the window completely as they bunny hop the map

Our weapons are useless, blaster hit detection is poor, railguns have less damage and splash than a FG while costing 10times more in ISK, missiles barely hit infantry half the time unless you get a direct hit and cant kill with splash while the MD can

Bad hit detection with missiles? Railgun sand Blasters maybe, but not Missile Launchers.

I have no problem killing people with my Missiles, and they are the basic ones.

Just ask Commander Tzu about how I blew that guy clean of the mountaintop when he was charging up a forge on his Gunnlogi

Tanks can't be the best counter because that forces everyone to use a tank. And I don't want to have to pull mine out every time I want to take down an enemy HAV.

So if I pay 300k AUR for a BPO with IA Swarm Launchers, Lai Dais, and two complex damage mods, I should be a god killer and be the best because I paid more? LOL NO!

Again, it's PRO AV. Should it tickle? Should it fire warning shots? Should I just try spraying and praying with my SMG to let you know that I'm about to fire at you? Has your IQ dropped to 30?