Many loltankers say "We should be able to solo you and you shouldn't because we're just dumb"

Well lets name the most common example of AV (with swarms). You are mid range (because long range swarms are easily avoidable), the tank is firing at you and so are the enemy infantry. If you are really lucky then you are able to wail on the tank, and destroy it, which most times is not the case. We will be gunned down by infantry long before this happens.

Now lets name the perfect example (The ones people QQ about). The tank drives in a wide open field. Not paying attention, the Swarms wail on him to death with everything it's got, and the tanker QQs about being destroyed.

So CCP listens to thier BS reasons and balance AV around teamwork. So for arguments sake, lets say that it now takes 3 people (half a squad) to tank out a tank. The LOLTank squad now uses 5-6 tanks, and we all have to use teamwork to defeat them.

But it is "balanced" to force 3 people to take out ONE Tank.

That would mean 15-16 people on AV just to deal with them (WHICH IS ONE ENTIRE TEAM!). And what about the enemy infantry? You think that they are just gonna sit there and watch the fireworks? NO!! They will go after all the objectives while the tanks freely stomp everyone without good AV resistance.

Then you have the drug users who say MLT AV OHKO's thier "good" loltank. Well the only way to OHKO a "good" loltank would be to have Profecincy lvl 4 or 5 and a complex damage mod.

These loltankers want tanks to become god and have MCC level health and resistance. They know what would happen if we "balance" AV this way. Don't let them stomp us! AV users unite! Let your voice be heard and put this evil to rest.

And if CCP does listen to the tankers and tanks become the most OP thing in video game history, I'm gonna file a help ticket and Demand 1B ISK and 1M AUR, as well as a store front picture on the market of me saying I TOLD YOU SO!

that's not imbalance that's just ****** up matchmaking lol.

its not my fault the enemy never bothered to bring out av or didn't bother to skill into it.

if they bring out 3 avrs then those avrs have the ability to destroy us.

do not confuse balance with match making.

Double standards blaring in the face, infantry doesn't have to use teamwork to destroy tanks, but tankers have to use teamwork to stay alive.

Stop lying, you're not a tanker, go back to Call of Duty.

But i am not., This is a very possible scenario with or without bad matchmaking.

Lets say you are 6 tankers VS EQUALLY skilled 6 AVers.
As it is now, they (AV) do have a chance of winning.
I Admit, their chance is probablly higher than your chance of winning (TANKS).

But if they apply the :'' 2-3 AVers to take down 1 tank'' theory, even if the matchmaking was FLAWLESS and 12 EQUALLY SKilled , with EQUAL SP players got in the same match, they wont be able to stop you tankers....
You would win, 100% guaranteed.THIS IS NOT BALANCE.


By the numbers they would need at LEAST 12 Avers to take down 5-6 tanks...

I wouldnt MIND a tank buff, and an AV nerf. But if they set a TANK limit on the field. 2 per team in FQ and Pubs....

But i am not., This is a very possible scenario with or without bad matchmaking.

Lets say you are 6 tankers VS EQUALLY skilled 6 AVers.
As it is now, they (AV) do have a chance of winning.
I Admit, their chance is probablly higher than your chance of winning (TANKS).

But if they apply the :'' 2-3 AVers to take down 1 tank'' theory, even if the matchmaking was FLAWLESS and 12 EQUALLY SKilled , with EQUAL SP players got in the same match, they wont be able to stop you tankers....
You would win, 100% guaranteed.THIS IS NOT BALANCE.


By the numbers they would need at LEAST 12 Avers to take down 5-6 tanks...

I wouldnt MIND a tank buff, and an AV nerf. But if they set a TANK limit on the field. 2 per team in FQ and Pubs....

Well, that was a wonderful thread, very compelling lol.

Wait you are saying that 5 Dedicated AV specialists could not take down 5 Maddy Tanks?

I'm betting the other way. Were talking 15X Swarm groups in the air in 6 seconds. Stand on Nano's were talking infinite Ammo. Not to mention Lai Dai AV grenades and AV in a building.

Many loltankers say "We should be able to solo you and you shouldn't because we're just dumb"

Well lets name the most common example of AV (with swarms). You are mid range (because long range swarms are easily avoidable), the tank is firing at you and so are the enemy infantry. If you are really lucky then you are able to wail on the tank, and destroy it, which most times is not the case. We will be gunned down by infantry long before this happens.

Now lets name the perfect example (The ones people QQ about). The tank drives in a wide open field. Not paying attention, the Swarms wail on him to death with everything it's got, and the tanker QQs about being destroyed.

So CCP listens to thier BS reasons and balance AV around teamwork. So for arguments sake, lets say that it now takes 3 people (half a squad) to tank out a tank. The LOLTank squad now uses 5-6 tanks, and we all have to use teamwork to defeat them.

But it is "balanced" to force 3 people to take out ONE Tank.

That would mean 15-16 people on AV just to deal with them (WHICH IS ONE ENTIRE TEAM!). And what about the enemy infantry? You think that they are just gonna sit there and watch the fireworks? NO!! They will go after all the objectives while the tanks freely stomp everyone without good AV resistance.

Then you have the drug users who say MLT AV OHKO's thier "good" loltank. Well the only way to OHKO a "good" loltank would be to have Profecincy lvl 4 or 5 and a complex damage mod.

These loltankers want tanks to become god and have MCC level health and resistance. They know what would happen if we "balance" AV this way. Don't let them stomp us! AV users unite! Let your voice be heard and put this evil to rest.

And if CCP does listen to the tankers and tanks become the most OP thing in video game history, I'm gonna file a help ticket and Demand 1B ISK and 1M AUR, as well as a store front picture on the market of me saying I TOLD YOU SO!

Back on Chromosone and an Imperfects at the time, Me, Protoman and others played against Metro, The Legend, Dr. Spazz and one other tanker in a regular ambush on the smallest map (we called it "Bowl" aka Tank hell). We only had one tank on our side, a good one too, while the enemy had 4, 2 of which were Surya. Even against those odds we WON against top tier tankers because WE USED TEAMWORK and by no means was our AV OP. The tankers could've been able to wipe us out if they had lined up and flanked the bowl together, sure one or two tanks may have been destroyed as a result but then the remaining two would've proceeded to kill my whole team.

AV should require teamwork to blow up a tank, AV as it is makes easy to blow up vehicles especially when the guy is using a Logi LAV for transport.

your making yourself look to stupid to do more than one thing, if 6 avers are on the field, and 6 tankers, then 3 of them would each have their own tank to destroy, and if theres 3 avrs on the field, those 3 avrs would destroy all the tanks in the battle... seriously, your amiability to multitask is pathetic.

ADAMANCE PLEASE READ. You know im not some mindless AV hot head , read what i wrote.

Im saying 6 Avers vs 6 Tankers as it is RIGHT NOW, (AND OF COURSE depending on the map) AVs have more chance of winning.

If you make it for 2-3 AVers needed to take down ONE tank, then 6 TAnkers will always win Vs 6 AVs, even if equally skilled.

--Extra note: If a tanker lets a Avers STAND on nanos i think he deserves to get killed lol. (NOTE THE big letters on the STAND)

Again, its very map dependant.

Ok echo, i forgot you are a VERY slow dude here i go again:

GÖª If 2 Guys are needed to take down ONE tank.
GÖª The 6 Avers and 6 Tankers have lets say 15 Mill SP, and are EQUALLY skilled, there by PERFECT matchmaking.
GÖª We put the 6 AVers and The 6 TAnks in a 300mts completley PLAIN terrain.
GÖª The 6 Tankers will win, 100% of the time.
GÖª Because to take out the 6 tankers you would need 12 AVers; 6 Avers will only take down 3 and then get outdamaged by the other 3 tanks.

I understand where you are coming from with your little re7arded explanation, but im assuming the Tankers are actually doing something more than standing still. DUh....

No actually your to much of an elitist indenilistist (lol) that you didnt noticed that srgentnovastar called out his rail tank. That was when a rail could 3shot any tank. So while we were preoccupied he killed us then your squad prevented us from getting our tanks in.

You used teamwork alot but it was always the rail tank that would end up beating me. Every time i played zitro id put on the tryhard panties kill him with a surya a few times then hed call out an lolrail tank and **** me with the help of you pinning me.

Thus tank vs tank becomes more important. Which is a positive thing!!! That's how tanking was in chromosome, minus the overpowered rail factor, tanks had to focus on other tanks because is you let one go unmatched it could do some damage.

Ok echo, i forgot you are a VERY slow dude here i go again:

GÖª If 2 Guys are needed to take down ONE tank.

3 guys would be balance..

GÖª The 6 Avers and 6 Tankers have lets say 15 Mill SP, and are EQUALLY skilled, there by PERFECT matchmaking.

then the avers would decimate the tankers before they got halfway through the map.

GÖª We put the 6 AVers and The 6 TAnks in a 300mts completley PLAIN terrain.

avers would win in less than a minute.

GÖª The 6 Tankers will win, 100% of the time.

lol no we wouldn't win, with the efficiency of av vs tanks, if the av is standing completely still and doing nothing, then we would win.

GÖª Because to take out the 6 tankers you would need 12 AVers; 6 Avers will only take down 3 and then get outdamaged by the other 3 tanks.

in order to take out one tank you would need 3 avers, so IF THERE IS MORE THAN ONE TANK ON THE FIELD, THOSE 3 GUYS WOULD BE ALL YOU NEED TO DESTROY THE TANKS.

I understand where you are coming from with your little re7arded explanation, but im assuming the avers are actually doing something more than standing still. DUh....

Thus tank vs tank becomes more important. Which is a positive thing!!! That's how tanking was in chromosome, minus the overpowered rail factor, tanks had to focus on other tanks because is you let one go unmatched it could do some damage.

Chromosome tanks were notorious for being OP. It was so bad that CCP had to remove marauder tanks from the game.

Proto Tanks need come back. Why cant we have proto too?

It might sound biased,but its for the sake of balance.

If we think of it a it SHOULD be, you 50 ton machine should take a lot of fire and survive, but as it is we dont have enough players per game to support powerful vehicles like this.

Example: If i need 2-3 guys to kill a tank, then what happens when void, adamance,TheLegend,Godin, SPRK4 etc..get all in a match and deploy 5-6 tanks in a 12 vs 12 match?

INBALANCE.thats what we have....

But i am not., This is a very possible scenario with or without bad matchmaking.

Lets say you are 6 tankers VS EQUALLY skilled 6 AVers.
As it is now, they (AV) do have a chance of winning.
I Admit, their chance is probablly higher than your chance of winning (TANKS).

But if they apply the :'' 2-3 AVers to take down 1 tank'' theory, even if the matchmaking was FLAWLESS and 12 EQUALLY SKilled , with EQUAL SP players got in the same match, they wont be able to stop you tankers....
You would win, 100% guaranteed.THIS IS NOT BALANCE.


By the numbers they would need at LEAS

Proto Tanks need come back. Why cant we have proto too?

ADAMANCE PLEASE READ. You know im not some mindless AV hot head , read what i wrote.

Im saying 6 Avers vs 6 Tankers as it is RIGHT NOW, (AND OF COURSE depending on the map) AVs have more chance of winning.

If you make it for 2-3 AVers needed to take down ONE tank, then 6 TAnkers will always win Vs 6 AVs, even if equally skilled.

--Extra note: If a tanker lets a Avers STAND on nanos i think he deserves to get killed lol. (NOTE THE big letters on the STAND)

Again, its very map dependant.

Ok echo, i forgot you are a VERY slow dude here i go again:

GÖª If 2 Guys are needed to take down ONE tank.
GÖª The 6 Avers and 6 Tankers have lets say 15 Mill SP, and are EQUALLY skilled, there by PERFECT matchmaking.
GÖª We put the 6 AVers and The 6 TAnks in a 300mts completley PLAIN terrain.
GÖª The 6 Tankers will win, 100% of the time.
GÖª Because to take out the 6 tankers you would need 12 AVers; 6 Avers will only take down 3 and then get outdamaged by the other 3 tanks.

I understand where you are coming from with your little re7arded explanation, but im assuming the Tankers are actually doing something more than standing still. DUh....

Ok echo, i forgot you are a VERY slow dude here i go again:

GÖª If 2 Guys are needed to take down ONE tank.
GÖª The 6 Avers and 6 Tankers have lets say 15 Mill SP, and are EQUALLY skilled, there by PERFECT matchmaking.
GÖª We put the 6 AVers and The 6 TAnks in a 300mts completley PLAIN terrain.
GÖª The 6 Tankers will win, 100% of the time.
GÖª Because to take out the 6 tankers you would need 12 AVers; 6 Avers will only take down 3 and th

I think what you are looking for is called a Forge Gun.

Edit... this original post is bad. Let them buff tanks and dropships. Lets see how it goes.. FFS they have been relatively underpowered for a looong time. Give them something to look forward to and changes can be a good thing. Right now it is not a big challenge to take a tank out of the equation either by blowing it up or making it run for the hills.