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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.21 22:25:00 -
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''Why Making Good AV Require Teamwork is A Bad Idea?''
IF tanks can solo , AV should be able to solo.
If AV needs team work, Make tanks Equally Teamwork dependant.
= Balance
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Posted - 2013.10.21 22:34:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: No no it does. Every AVer in that equation is self sufficient and can work together without even need to use team chat.
If you mean to say a tank needs, a driver, gunner, and moduler to be useful not only do you kill any sense of vehicle balance you kill driving vehicles as a whole. Why do infantry not understand this. Your game would be so boring, not to mention dead without the 500 or more vehicle users in this game.
I mean I'd head straight for battlefield and never look back.
Congratulations you would all have your CoD514.
No a Tanker Should be able to efficiently drive his tank solo, hell he could even choose to remove the small turrets and run it alone,but it shouldnt be very effective , same as 1 single AV is not very effective vs a good tanker.
Now as I see it, tankers feel they should be able to solo whole games since their tanks are expensive. IMO You are just wearing a 6000HP + Dropssuit that is immune to all but 4 weapons and moves fast.
We've had this discussion 10000000000000000 times. like srsly ,wait for the changes then we can whine and rant....
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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.21 22:46:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:
well... the difference is that our vehicles cost over 10x more than a single dropsuit you have, we also spent 10x the amount of SP you do to deploy anything..
and if balance isn't based around personal investment in this game, then why the **** do we even have personal investment, might as well make this call of duty where even the most ******** dumbass can destroy an entire planet by himself like you want.
Yes that is a big ISK difference. But you know this before buying the vehicle. Nobody is making you run tanks every match, thats is your decision. IMO you are just buying a 4th Tier Dropsuit. Thats all, and for balance sake even if it cost x10 a Tier 3 dropsuit (proto) still shouldnt give you the right to solo matches.
The SP part is totall BULLCRAP and tankers know this,need to stop using that as an excuse , i have over 13mill on my AV fittings. The Suit,Skills,Passive skills, Proficiency,Rapid reload ,Sidearm Equipment,etc....
And lastly ..'even the most ******** dumbass can destroy an entire planet by himself like you want'' LOL THATS what YOU want, be able to solo games without teamwork, dont push that onto me, im saying everything uses teamwork, or it doesnt.
NOT YOUR: ''Yeah tanks can solo BUT you will need 2-4 PROTO AVs to take me down LOLOLO>...''
NO. |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.21 22:52:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:
im always giving you people real balance, yet you come round and blow it all away because you want call of duty.
You are one of the most Biased Tankers i've ever met, not as much as SPRK4whateves...but still, your ''balance'' is one sighted.
So its not balance. |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.21 22:57:00 -
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I'll just say it one more time.
Tank or no tank, Proto or MLT.
If you can Solo playing as a tanker; then you should be able to solo said tanker if you have equally tier'd equipment.
Why because this is for balance sake, even if you spent 50 milion sp and 500 billions in tanks, if you get in a game ALONE, then ALONE you should be able to die....
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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.21 23:01:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:
and you are biased as well "if a 50 ton machine half the size of a building can solo, so can a dropsuit the size of a forge gun". that's biased
It might sound biased,but its for the sake of balance.
If we think of it a it SHOULD be, you 50 ton machine should take a lot of fire and survive, but as it is we dont have enough players per game to support powerful vehicles like this.
Example: If i need 2-3 guys to kill a tank, then what happens when void, adamance,TheLegend,Godin, SPRK4 etc..get all in a match and deploy 5-6 tanks in a 12 vs 12 match?
INBALANCE.thats what we have.... |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.21 23:04:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Void Echo wrote:
im always giving you people real balance, yet you come round and blow it all away because you want call of duty.
You are one of the most Biased Tankers i've ever met, not as much as SPRK4whateves...but still, your ''balance'' is one sighted. So its not balance. You tank with me King you know there is not balance, HAV needs buffs or AV needs nerfs. I can be using Team work all match, what do I get for it. A downed maddy that made me run negative while, you,Aero, Lea, and the rest all make some ISK. I can down and assist 15 Tanks like I did the other night, still all 4 of the matches and 15 HAV downed for my one lost tank barely covered that HAV I did lose. Most of the time I was running from Swarmers which magically attune to my location even after swinging right out past me around buildings.
Hey im not saying tanks dont need a real Buff.
I do agree a scrub with STD Swarms should NOT be able to take down a good maddy.
But we are talking of something else here broski. |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.21 23:08:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:
that's not imbalance that's just ****** up matchmaking lol.
its not my fault the enemy never bothered to bring out av or didn't bother to skill into it.
if they bring out 3 avrs then those avrs have the ability to destroy us.
do not confuse balance with match making.
But i am not., This is a very possible scenario with or without bad matchmaking.
Lets say you are 6 tankers VS EQUALLY skilled 6 AVers. As it is now, they (AV) do have a chance of winning. I Admit, their chance is probablly higher than your chance of winning (TANKS).
But if they apply the :'' 2-3 AVers to take down 1 tank'' theory, even if the matchmaking was FLAWLESS and 12 EQUALLY SKilled , with EQUAL SP players got in the same match, they wont be able to stop you tankers.... You would win, 100% guaranteed.THIS IS NOT BALANCE.
By the numbers they would need at LEAST 12 Avers to take down 5-6 tanks...
I wouldnt MIND a tank buff, and an AV nerf. But if they set a TANK limit on the field. 2 per team in FQ and Pubs.... |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.21 23:19:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:
Wait you are saying that 5 Dedicated AV specialists could not take down 5 Maddy Tanks?
I'm betting the other way. Were talking 15X Swarm groups in the air in 6 seconds. Stand on Nano's were talking infinite Ammo. Not to mention Lai Dai AV grenades and AV in a building.
ADAMANCE PLEASE READ. You know im not some mindless AV hot head , read what i wrote.
Im saying 6 Avers vs 6 Tankers as it is RIGHT NOW, (AND OF COURSE depending on the map) AVs have more chance of winning.
If you make it for 2-3 AVers needed to take down ONE tank, then 6 TAnkers will always win Vs 6 AVs, even if equally skilled.
--Extra note: If a tanker lets a Avers STAND on nanos i think he deserves to get killed lol. (NOTE THE big letters on the STAND)
Again, its very map dependant. |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.21 23:24:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:
your making yourself look to stupid to do more than one thing, if 6 avers are on the field, and 6 tankers, then 3 of them would each have their own tank to destroy, and if theres 3 avrs on the field, those 3 avrs would destroy all the tanks in the battle... seriously, your amiability to multitask is pathetic.
Ok echo, i forgot you are a VERY slow dude here i go again:
GÖª If 2 Guys are needed to take down ONE tank. GÖª The 6 Avers and 6 Tankers have lets say 15 Mill SP, and are EQUALLY skilled, there by PERFECT matchmaking. GÖª We put the 6 AVers and The 6 TAnks in a 300mts completley PLAIN terrain. GÖª The 6 Tankers will win, 100% of the time. GÖª Because to take out the 6 tankers you would need 12 AVers; 6 Avers will only take down 3 and then get outdamaged by the other 3 tanks.
I understand where you are coming from with your little re7arded explanation, but im assuming the Tankers are actually doing something more than standing still. DUh....
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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.22 00:09:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Void Echo wrote:
your making yourself look to stupid to do more than one thing, if 6 avers are on the field, and 6 tankers, then 3 of them would each have their own tank to destroy, and if theres 3 avrs on the field, those 3 avrs would destroy all the tanks in the battle... seriously, your amiability to multitask is pathetic.
Ok echo, i forgot you are a VERY slow dude here i go again: GÖª If 2 Guys are needed to take down ONE tank. 3 guys would be balance..GÖª The 6 Avers and 6 Tankers have lets say 15 Mill SP, and are EQUALLY skilled, there by PERFECT matchmaking. then the avers would decimate the tankers before they got halfway through the map. GÖª We put the 6 AVers and The 6 TAnks in a 300mts completley PLAIN terrain. avers would win in less than a minute.GÖª The 6 Tankers will win, 100% of the time. lol no we wouldn't win, with the efficiency of av vs tanks, if the av is standing completely still and doing nothing, then we would win.GÖª Because to take out the 6 tankers you would need 12 AVers; 6 Avers will only take down 3 and then get outdamaged by the other 3 tanks. in order to take out one tank you would need 3 avers, so IF THERE IS MORE THAN ONE TANK ON THE FIELD, THOSE 3 GUYS WOULD BE ALL YOU NEED TO DESTROY THE TANKS.I understand where you are coming from with your little re7arded explanation, but im assuming the avers are actually doing something more than standing still. DUh....
im talking in the case tank get a buff, Av an nerf an 2+ Avers are needed to take down 1 single tank, yall of your answers are assuming everything stay as it is, except the fist one : ''3 guys would be balance..'' which confirmes you are a demented biased tanker. |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.22 00:10:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Void Echo wrote:
your making yourself look to stupid to do more than one thing, if 6 avers are on the field, and 6 tankers, then 3 of them would each have their own tank to destroy, and if theres 3 avrs on the field, those 3 avrs would destroy all the tanks in the battle... seriously, your amiability to multitask is pathetic.
Ok echo, i forgot you are a VERY slow dude here i go again: GÖª If 2 Guys are needed to take down ONE tank. GÖª The 6 Avers and 6 Tankers have lets say 15 Mill SP, and are EQUALLY skilled, there by PERFECT matchmaking. GÖª We put the 6 AVers and The 6 TAnks in a 300mts completley PLAIN terrain. GÖª The 6 Tankers will win, 100% of the time. GÖª Because to take out the 6 tankers you would need 12 AVers; 6 Avers will only take down 3 and th *sigh* AGAIN it wouldn't take 12 av'rs, stupid, 3 av on 1 tank each as in 3 guy are av, all fire on 1 tank, boom move on do the same for all tanks, if you fail to comprehend that you are ********.
You fail to comprehend how fast a tank can take down infantry. You are assuming the AVers are shooting at tanks that stand still without shooting... talk about stupid lol.... |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.22 00:11:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: How can I stop and Aver standing on his own nano hives?
If he is STANDING, shoot at him. |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.22 00:15:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:
And you are Lueko #2. Make my tanks cost less than 200k for a REALLY good one and ill agree with you.
i have proposed this, tankers refused. |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.22 00:20:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:True Adamance wrote: How can I stop and Aver standing on his own nano hives?
If he is STANDING, shoot at him. If he is on a roof?
EXACTLY ADAMANCE you got it! ITS MAP dependant, you wont be able to shoot him! same as me as an AVer wont be able to kill a tank if is a map with lots of cover or a really big one where they can just run away for repairs everytime im reloading my AV weapon.
same page again.... |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.22 00:25:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:True Adamance wrote: How can I stop and Aver standing on his own nano hives?
If he is STANDING, shoot at him. reply to your post above. you are THE MOST STUPID PERSON ON THESE FORUMS. 1. infrantry can use cover and fire swarms over without risk. 2. tower camping 3. a hill 4. distraction 5. tank isn't looking i can keep going on.....if you reply saying "herp derp av standing still" or "if you cant kill them in cover you deserve to die" i will probably make a thread how ******** you are
Ok bro, like maps like Line Harvest dont make tanks unkillable LOL. Whateves, you keep whining ,i seriously hope CCP knows what they are doing wile balancing tanks, but im sure that even if correcly made you will just keep QQing. im done trying to reason with you.... |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.22 00:25:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:There has to be a way to lessen the gap between easy and impossible to kill.
Thats what i think, but loltankers here want chromo tanks back... Pfft... |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.22 00:28:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:There has to be a way to lessen the gap between easy and impossible to kill. Hard to kill but easy to disable.
ANd earn WP for disabled vehicles.... |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.22 00:38:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:There has to be a way to lessen the gap between easy and impossible to kill. Thats what i think, but loltankers here want chromo tanks back... Pfft... I do. But that was a golden time when I was a young Aver hunting down great monsters. Back then it was an accomplishment to AV well, not something every joker out there could do. I do want Chromo Tanks back, as our proto type HAV.
Yeah,but thats the problem, you guys want Chromo tanks back...PLUS AV nerf. Then please enlighten me on how exactly are we supposed to take down tanks then.
@ jerrmy12 kahoalii You have balls to call ME kid while being a no one. Balls,but no brains....
Map dependant means that there are maps that benefit AV and maps that benefit Tanks and other vehicles. AS well as i can take down tanks in the 3 OBJ map, tanks can ravage through almost impune in Line Harvest. |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.22 00:48:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:There has to be a way to lessen the gap between easy and impossible to kill. remove/nerf pro av
Nerf Whiny tankers |
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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.22 01:02:00 -
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Cosgar wrote: Think of it this way: Try fighting against a duvolle in a militia/standard suit. That's what's been going on with tanks and AV- proto tanks don't exist. Enforcers don't count since they're basically a militia tank with an extra slot.
I see where you are coming from: Tanks do need a buff, thats not in discussion here.
BTW bad example, My Cal BPO runs 640 HP and an Exile. An i can do with Duvolle user with this,VERY often too..... XD |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.22 01:37:00 -
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Caeli SineDeo wrote:
Currently in my armor tank with all modules running fully pimped out reping I can be taken down by a single guy in 10 seconds. Any fully set up AV pro can take me out in 10 seconds while I am running all modules no matter the build.
t
This is the kind of BS tankers want us to believe LOL
If thats true: You tank sucks balls and so do you
And why do i know its a lie?: I have tried soloing tanks with a LOT of damage at the same time: 4-PE + PRO Packed Grenades + up to 5 PROTO SWARMS WITH PROF AND DAM MODs , and they survive and run away.
SURVIVE and RUN AWAY. This means in good theory if he had seen me before i saw him he could have killed me without me able to inflict ANY important damage.
I run ADV P/E + Proto SWARMS + Lai Dai Packed nades on an Amarr logi.And even while emptying EVERYTHING tanks have been able to survive. Your pitiful.'' aw gawd my tank gets soloed all the time by 1 AVer'' just makes you look bad, you are not fooling anyone.
On other notes. Yeah tanks need a buff, just not chromo level buff.... |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.22 01:49:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:There has to be a way to lessen the gap between easy and impossible to kill. remove/nerf pro av Nerf Whiny tankers nerf the bitchy infrantry that got tanks nerfed a billion times and av buffed
Wow cool comeback dude. truly impressive. |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.22 01:51:00 -
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Caeli SineDeo wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:
Currently in my armor tank with all modules running fully pimped out reping I can be taken down by a single guy in 10 seconds. Any fully set up AV pro can take me out in 10 seconds while I am running all modules no matter the build.
t
This is the kind of BS tankers want us to believe LOLIf thats true: You tank sucks balls and so do youAnd why do i know its a lie?: I have tried soloing tanks with a LOT of damage at the same time: 4-PE + PRO Packed Grenades + up to 5 PROTO SWARMS WITH PROF AND DAM MODs , and they survive and run away. SURVIVE and RUN AWAY. This means in good theory if he had seen me before i saw him he could have killed me without me able to inflict ANY important damage. I run ADV P/E + Proto SWARMS + Lai Dai Packed nades on an Amarr logi.And even while emptying EVERYTHING tanks have been able to survive. Your pitiful.'' aw gawd my tank gets soloed all the time by 1 AVer'' just makes you look bad, you are not fooling anyone.
On other notes. Yeah tanks need a buff, just not chromo level buff.... First off you need to go talk to any recognizable player in this forum. And ask him who I am. And if I am good. Before you say I suck and do not know what I am doing. Consider me a ******* god compared to your scrawny noobie self. And yes any armor tank can be dropped in 10 seconds by AV. While modules are running. I can run a 4 damage mod LOL Swarm Fire 2 Shots then throw 4 AV nades in 10 seconds.
You might be a god compared to me skill wise, but not a very smart one if you are exposed for so long that gets your tank killed by ONE ;Aver...LOLnot as good as self proclaimed then....
BTW insulting me wont get you nowhere, i dont take any of this personal,not like you... pushed you buttons there scrubby? Oh im sorry you thought that being skilled made you less of a scrub > LOL |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.22 01:52:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: NO seriously king how many times have infantry been nerfed at a fundamental level?
None.I know tanks recieved unesesary nerfs countless times....But what does that has to do with anything, we are discussing TANKS here and AV. not Infantry Dropsuits. |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.22 01:58:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:
You might be a god compared to me skill wise, but not a very smart one if you are exposed for so long that gets your tank killed by ONE ;Aver...LOLnot as good as self proclaimed then....
BTW insulting me wont get you nowhere, i dont take any of this personal,not like you... pushed you buttons there scrubby? Oh im sorry you thought that being skilled made you less of a scrub > LOL
He isn't joking King when we shoot at you half our shots phase right through you.
What? Yeah i know, same as swarms being invisible, they are ALL problem thatneeds fix
But True A. You are not following me here. As response from you tankers LOOSING the main argument,you know: '' Why should tankers run solo and AV be done in teams'' You are coming out with all kind of possible arguments that are not to the case...
We all know swarms are invisible, yup We know rendering is still crap, tank turret hit detection is not as good as it should be. We all know tanks need buffs We all know tanks are not worth their ISK price.
But comming to tell me a GOD tanker gets dropped by ONE Avers EVERYTIME in less than 10 secs..? please bro, if thats true then True Adamamance must be the King Of Gods of Tanking ; Surviving multiple Avers with a SCOUT tanks.... |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.22 02:01:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:
well:
1. he has more likes than you, so its probably that he has more respect overall because his posts appeal to people.
2. hes in imperfects, without a doubt one of the best corps to be in this game even in retirement status.
3. iv never heard of you before a month ago lol.
4. your just making yourself a joke with these threads.
While commenting on the game we ALL play: Likes, corp ,-K-D ratio etc dont apply.
We all have the same level of importance ; Opinion wise.
-1 void |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.22 02:03:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:True Adamance wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:
You might be a god compared to me skill wise, but not a very smart one if you are exposed for so long that gets your tank killed by ONE ;Aver...LOLnot as good as self proclaimed then....
BTW insulting me wont get you nowhere, i dont take any of this personal,not like you... pushed you buttons there scrubby? Oh im sorry you thought that being skilled made you less of a scrub > LOL
He isn't joking King when we shoot at you half our shots phase right through you. What? Yeah i know, same as swarms being invisible, they are ALL problem thatneeds fix But True A. You are not following me here. As response from you tankers LOOSING the main argument,you know: '' Why should tankers run solo and AV be done in teams'' You are coming out with all kind of possible arguments that are not to the case... We all know swarms are invisible, yup We know rendering is still crap, tank turret hit detection is not as good as it should be. We all know tanks need buffs We all know tanks are not worth their ISK price. But comming to tell me a GOD tanker gets dropped by ONE Avers EVERYTIME in less than 10 secs..? please bro, if thats true then True Adamamance must be the King Of Gods of Tanking ; Surviving multiple Avers with a SCOUT tanks.... and neither are you with all your arguments saying tanks are fine as they are.
IN THIS SAME post you quoted me i said tanks need a buff; which means ,you re not even reading my post. which means i wont even read your anymore ....
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KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
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Posted - 2013.10.22 02:05:00 -
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Caeli SineDeo wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:
Currently in my armor tank with all modules running fully pimped out reping I can be taken down by a single guy in 10 seconds. Any fully set up AV pro can take me out in 10 seconds while I am running all modules no matter the build.
t
This is the kind of BS tankers want us to believe LOLIf thats true: You tank sucks balls and so do youAnd why do i know its a lie?: I have tried soloing tanks with a LOT of damage at the same time: 4-PE + PRO Packed Grenades + up to 5 PROTO SWARMS WITH PROF AND DAM MODs , and they survive and run away. SURVIVE and RUN AWAY. This means in good theory if he had seen me before i saw him he could have killed me without me able to inflict ANY important damage. I run ADV P/E + Proto SWARMS + Lai Dai Packed nades on an Amarr logi.And even while emptying EVERYTHING tanks have been able to survive. Your pitiful.'' aw gawd my tank gets soloed all the time by 1 AVer'' just makes you look bad, you are not fooling anyone.
On other notes. Yeah tanks need a buff, just not chromo level buff.... First off you need to go talk to any recognizable player in this forum. And ask him who I am. And if I am good. Before you say I suck and do not know what I am doing. Consider me a ******* god compared to your scrawny noobie self. And yes any armor tank can be dropped in 10 seconds by AV. While modules are running. I can run a 4 damage mod LOL Swarm Fire 2 Shots then throw 4 AV nades in 10 seconds. You might be a god compared to me skill wise, but not a very smart one if you are exposed for so long that gets your tank killed by ONE ;Aver...LOLnot as good as self proclaimed then.... BTW insulting me wont get you nowhere, i dont take any of this personal,not like you... pushed you buttons there scrubby? Oh im sorry you thought that being skilled made you less of a scrub > LOL If you can not solo me with AV I consider you a **** player. Tanks do not take much skill to solo. I run around with Standard swarm set up and melt tanks all day long. I can kill tankers with out a single skill point put into AV. I have Dren Swarms, Aurum AV nades and standard Damage modes. And I run over tanks no problem. Hop in LAV drive past all infantry get out run around until I find a spot that I know tanker is going to start engaging friendlies near wait until he engages shoot swarms throw AV as he run put last few volleys of swarms into him. Easy kill. No tanker can defend against it because by the time they take swarm damage and I have AV nades thrown they are just turning around turret or trying to run. I can run around all day long in a tank and never die without entering my redline and kill AV all day long but the problem is as the biggest assest to my team I am doing nothing but that. I play to win so yes I expect to be able to not have to play a full game just engaging AV. I expect to be able to play with my team and be involved in taking objectives. When has helping taking a objective become the incorrect way to play. I am a horrible tanker for slowing down and getting near a objective to kill people and allow my team to push. Ya sorry. You prove your noobieness in how little you know in how mocho you think you are because you think your bothering me. Trust me I do not loose a ounce of sleep over this. But I will stat my opinion to try to make a better game even through CCP seems to like listening to you low IQ dimwits. Thats why they have a amazing population of 3k players on at peaks Maybe a lucky 5k if they throw a event.
ARe you serious? |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1985
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Posted - 2013.10.22 02:10:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:
you do realize that was a joke post right??
I don't comment seriously on people's reputation or their status on the forums.
No i didnt sorry. |
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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.22 02:20:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:8213 wrote:Common argument is: HAV costs 500,000-2.5 million ISK. Swarms on a Protobuild costs 150,000 ISK. One player shouldn't be able to destory a HAV with an kind of ease.
However, what if the other team has 5 HAVs on it? This has been happening more and more, because now Squad Finder is making teams of nothing but HAV users. What if the other team has 10 HAVs on it? All 16 are in HAVs... So, the other team can't compete against that (especially in Ambush). The only thing that can combat this is to bring in 5, 10, or 16 HAVs on your side...
Eventually DUST will turn into HAV wars as more players finish their Infantry SP Grind and go into Vehicles. After a player hits the 10 million marks, they are safe to start their HAV build... the longer the game goes, the more people will just be using HAVs. **snort** Vehichle deployment limits kiddo. Look em up. People are ignoring you because your suggestion is physically impossible. "Team vehicle limit reached!"
A team in a REGULAR PUB MATCH, can have up to 5-6 HAVs thats more than enough considering the LOW 16 vs 16 players per game....
In 5 Tanks you can fit up to 15 players in them so.... Hm.... |
KING CHECKMATE
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True Adamance wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Well you have your Soma at standard, Madrugger at adv and Surya/Falcion at proto.
I bet you if they ever do add what you guys want standard/adv/proto tanks all of them will have the same HP, Speed, Performance, Stats like infantry do with only one major defining change between each tier, slots and fit.
Which last I check is probably going to be worse than what you guys currently have. Wait you are saying the Enforcers are proto? They are worse than standard. But the issue is where are the Marauders now? Will they come back, will I get my goddamn respect for the changing of skills and general bullshit.
No he is saying that tankers compare so much with dropsuits that they are ALL (tanks) going to be the same; just with more slots and CPU PG but a lot more expensive. LOL
I like this XD |
KING CHECKMATE
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Eurydice Itzhak wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:I'll just say it one more time.
Tank or no tank, Proto or MLT.
If you can Solo playing as a tanker; then you should be able to solo said tanker if you have equally tier'd equipment.
Why because this is for balance sake, even if you spent 50 milion sp and 500 billions in tanks, if you get in a game ALONE, then ALONE you should be able to die....
Infantry can do MANY things a tank cannot. Why should one person take out a tank? This kicks tanks out literally their ONLY role. When my tank costs 100k and i can hack points from it and throw down uplinks, then it should be abode to be solod. Jesus Christ you're so dumb.
They do have Mobile CRU's...thats something like uplinks rite? :3 |
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