Attim I was starting to like you.... then this....

Auto Locking double DPS weapons that are fire and forget do not deserve to be, nor should have the capability to solo HAV. We need to reach a point of balance where players actually want to deploy tanks to the map, this way we get the fights that we see in trailers.....

However as you and many others would have it. AV dominates the map with no downsides nor need to leave the red line granting free 150 + 50 WP at regular intervals for doing nothing.

Your 500K SP, and 300K ISK investment is denying dynamic gameplay and destroying 10+ Million SP, and destroying 1-2 Million SP vehicles with too much ease.

Swarm Lock time needs an increase, fire rate needs to remain the same, with swarms not making 180- degree.

hang on... let me just... there we go brain is successfully unplugged. I think I might be on your level now...

so, AV call it 50k suit should be able to solo a 1m tank.

"tanks shouldn't be balanced around price!"

right, so a tank should cost as much as a dropsuit?

"long range swarms are easy to avoid"

and they are also invisible, didn't know swarms had cloaking devices did you?

EDIT: bolding for better visibility... maybe we should bold swarms.

I know it's been said that they want vehicle vs vehicle combat, I'm not in the mood to go hunting though.

Just saying that AV is too strong and only very delusional players think otherwise. If people wanted balance they would want vehicles to be built around fighting vehicles, that way they don't **** infantry and infantry don't **** them, and everyone has a more even gaming experience.

But no, people want to park on towers and feel like Zeus.

Please correct me If I am wrong, but I am seeing a majority of players who complain about AV hate swarms, and don't get me wrong they really are kind of a stupid weapon, but if this is the case then this discussion is going All wrong.

If forge guns are deemed acceptable or at least not "game breaking" and AV mades are fine, then why don't we talk about only the crux of the issue. Swarms suck, they take no skill to deal a huge chunk of damage.

Decrease damage rate and level of target tracking, increase clip size and ammo count. Is this not a solution?

lai dias should have a max 800 dmg and pro AFG max8-900 impact or lower, pro breach should be 1500 with charge time cut a little

and you are biased as well "if a 50 ton machine half the size of a building can solo, so can a dropsuit the size of a forge gun". that's biased

that's not imbalance that's just ****** up matchmaking lol.

its not my fault the enemy never bothered to bring out av or didn't bother to skill into it.

if they bring out 3 avrs then those avrs have the ability to destroy us.

do not confuse balance with match making.

Wait you are saying that 5 Dedicated AV specialists could not take down 5 Maddy Tanks?

I'm betting the other way. Were talking 15X Swarm groups in the air in 6 seconds. Stand on Nano's were talking infinite Ammo. Not to mention Lai Dai AV grenades and AV in a building.

your making yourself look to stupid to do more than one thing, if 6 avers are on the field, and 6 tankers, then 3 of them would each have their own tank to destroy, and if theres 3 avrs on the field, those 3 avrs would destroy all the tanks in the battle... seriously, your amiability to multitask is pathetic.

How can I stop and Aver standing on his own nano hives?

reply to your post above.
you are THE MOST STUPID PERSON ON THESE FORUMS.
1. infrantry can use cover and fire swarms over without risk.
2. tower camping
3. a hill
4. distraction
5. tank isn't looking
i can keep going on.....if you reply saying "herp derp av standing still" or "if you cant kill them in cover you deserve to die" i will probably make a thread how ******** you are

reply to your post above.
you are THE MOST STUPID PERSON ON THESE FORUMS.
1. infrantry can use cover and fire swarms over without risk.
2. tower camping
3. a hill
4. distraction
5. tank isn't looking
i can keep going on.....if you reply saying "herp derp av standing still" or "if you cant kill them in cover you deserve to die" i will probably make a thread how ******** you are

remove/nerf pro av

Please correct me If I am wrong, but I am seeing a majority of players who complain about AV hate swarms, and don't get me wrong they really are kind of a stupid weapon, but if this is the case then this discussion is going All wrong.

If forge guns are deemed acceptable or at least not "game breaking" and AV mades are fine, then why don't we talk about only the crux of the issue. Swarms suck, they take no skill to deal a huge chunk of damage.

Decrease damage rate and level of target tracking, increase clip size and ammo count. Is this not a solution?