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The Lion ElJonson
1st legion The Dark Angels
28
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:26:00 -
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Don't CCP monitor there own tournament? |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1343
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:27:00 -
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The Lion ElJonson wrote:Don't CCP monitor there own tournament? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ answer this one, IWS
moar like IBS am i rite |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2635
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:27:00 -
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The Lion ElJonson wrote:Don't CCP monitor there own tournament?
They barely monitor the development of the game itself. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1506
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:28:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Yet this thread is getting more posts per minute than announcement threads? yeah just a minor issue lol nothin 2 c here.
Half of them are mine buddy. Acting like an elitist bastard is no better ethically than using glitches, by the way. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
972
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:28:00 -
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Arirana wrote: What makes it wrong?
Arirana wrote:I know glitching isn't fun for the other side or is it in anyway honorable. You answered this question for yourself. Like I said, you knew it was wrong, you knew it was cheating, but you did it anyway. This is called antisocial behavior, for those who are not aware.
The fact that you have absolutely no remorse for doing something you knew was wrong tells me that you may be a sociopath. Maybe you should go seek some help, before you hurt someone, or yourself.
As far as not comparing a game to real life, your morals are your morals, whether practiced in reality, or virtual reality. Your outlook on life directly effects everything you do in life, whether you want to admit that or not is immaterial. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3956
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:29:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:The Lion ElJonson wrote:Don't CCP monitor there own tournament? They barely monitor the development of the game itself.
made me lol IRL |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1346
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:30:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Yet this thread is getting more posts per minute than announcement threads? yeah just a minor issue lol nothin 2 c here. Half of them are mine buddy. Acting like an elitist bastard is no better ethically than using glitches, by the way. I'm just stating facts, am I wrong in saying you never participated in the tournament, therefore you have no right to comment on the size and scope and impact of it?
Half of them aren't yours. I think this thread now has more posts than the announcements thread about the tournament. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2011
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:31:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:When most other games have point blank killers such as CoD's knifing, its not that bad of an exploit, I mean, you're an idiot to let the guy/gal get that close. Its not much different than a breach shotgun or a nova knifing in hands of a player that can get in that range. Melee aim assist is pretty broken (as in not working) and this exploit comes at the cost of almost all the user's stamina making them vulnerable to getting shot after the first victim.
Overall since CCP can't hotfix, prove, nor enforce it that easily without so much as a master cluster @#% of a mess I opt the do nothing approach until its fixed with a patch.
However I am just a CPM, I cannot decide for CCP, I have express my concerns about the exploit's use in the tournament having negative community impact to CCP, and honestly if you really felt it was game breaking you should have taken it to urgent fury as they're more capable of disqualifications and for matters like that Kane Spearow is your CPM man in trying to talk that mess out.
As a final word I doubt the individual using the exploit single handedly won the entire match and the individuals named so far I know would have torn your posterior a new one without the exploit at all with similar or just as bad weapons at their disposal.
You want a real exploit talk to me when people start flying around without jetpacks and infinite ammo exploits or guns firing railgun shots.
And Yes I know this is bait to make me, the CPM, or CCP bad but err on the side of caution there is your response basically telling you that you are just about too late, after the fact, and not enough stink was raised when you could have. If you want to deal with it, your fight just got that much harder, good luck but I got bigger fish to fry and I am glad for one that train wreck of a tournament is over. I know its sad that other more serious complaints about the game drowned out the initial petition off the forums but that only tells me the guys effected by it were not interested enough to keep attention to the issue. Threadnaughts are your friends when used right and your worst enemy when used wrong.
I would say this is where you lost all credibility as a rep for the community but lets be honest that happened long ago If you cant see how letting this slide is massively toxic for the games health maybe you should just go crawl under a rock and not say anything for the rest of your term
Inb4 idle veiled threats about you withholding information from CCP to us and blocking feedback from us to CCP |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3956
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:33:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:When most other games have point blank killers such as CoD's knifing, its not that bad of an exploit, I mean, you're an idiot to let the guy/gal get that close. Its not much different than a breach shotgun or a nova knifing in hands of a player that can get in that range. Melee aim assist is pretty broken (as in not working) and this exploit comes at the cost of almost all the user's stamina making them vulnerable to getting shot after the first victim.
Overall since CCP can't hotfix, prove, nor enforce it that easily without so much as a master cluster @#% of a mess I opt the do nothing approach until its fixed with a patch.
However I am just a CPM, I cannot decide for CCP, I have express my concerns about the exploit's use in the tournament having negative community impact to CCP, and honestly if you really felt it was game breaking you should have taken it to urgent fury as they're more capable of disqualifications and for matters like that Kane Spearow is your CPM man in trying to talk that mess out.
As a final word I doubt the individual using the exploit single handedly won the entire match and the individuals named so far I know would have torn your posterior a new one without the exploit at all with similar or just as bad weapons at their disposal.
You want a real exploit talk to me when people start flying around without jetpacks and infinite ammo exploits or guns firing railgun shots.
And Yes I know this is bait to make me, the CPM, or CCP bad but err on the side of caution there is your response basically telling you that you are just about too late, after the fact, and not enough stink was raised when you could have. If you want to deal with it, your fight just got that much harder, good luck but I got bigger fish to fry and I am glad for one that train wreck of a tournament is over. I know its sad that other more serious complaints about the game drowned out the initial petition off the forums but that only tells me the guys effected by it were not interested enough to keep attention to the issue. Threadnaughts are your friends when used right and your worst enemy when used wrong. I would say this is where you lost all credibility as a rep for the community but lets be honest that happened long ago If you cant see how letting this slide is massively toxic for the games health maybe you should just go crawl under a rock and not say anything for the rest of your term Inb4 idle veiled threats about you withholding information from CCP to us and blocking feedback from us to CCP
Daaaayuuum... IWS... you got served! *puts on some music and gets ready for a dance off* |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
1083
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:33:00 -
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Arirana was Kung fu fighting. Bows as fast as lightning. |
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DootDoot
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
103
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:34:00 -
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This is an exploit..... and what happened?
http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/06/22/eve-players-abuse-faction-warfare-to-produce-trillions-of-isk/
Children and their little bug's and exploit's and their small world inside their parent's house where everything is fair and just.
Thats one potentially costing over 175 thousand US dollar's... your little "i got melee' is pathetic. |
Arirana
Ancient Exiles
118
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:35:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Arirana wrote: What makes it wrong?
Arirana wrote:I know glitching isn't fun for the other side or is it in anyway honorable. You answered this question for yourself. Like I said, you knew it was wrong, you knew it was cheating, but you did it anyway. This is called antisocial behavior, for those who are not aware. The fact that you have absolutely no remorse for doing something you knew was wrong tells me that you may be a sociopath. Maybe you should go seek some help, before you hurt someone, or yourself. As far as not comparing a game to real life, your morals are your morals, whether practiced in reality, or virtual reality. Your outlook on life directly effects everything you do in life, whether you want to admit that or not is immaterial. Let me tell you something, being honorable is a choice, and there are alot of different types of honor. Honor on a broken video game is non-existent, let me tell you that right now. However, there is honor here in the forums. Barely, but it is there. Like I said, how is something unhonorable "wrong"? This game isn't feudal europe it's a f*cking broken video game. What are the consequences of glitching in a video game? QQ and unfairness. And LOL at the idea that glitching in a video game makes me a dangerous sociopath IRL. Get real. |
The Lion ElJonson
1st legion The Dark Angels
28
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:35:00 -
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If they do monitor there tourniments then they knew what was happening and if they don't monitor them then there very short staffed and basically anything goes? |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
291
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:37:00 -
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why does everyoe record tournaments with potatos? |
IllIIIIIIIllIIl 018274
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:37:00 -
[345] - Quote
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1346991#post1346991
Cobra's sex secrets revealed. |
Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
1078
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:37:00 -
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DEAR IWS
your support of the glitching in the tournament is direct support to the glitch ninjas future exploits, we will analyze and use glitches in order to cause overwhelming support AGAINST glitches. becuase after the glitch ninjas are done you wont be able to enter a game that isnt overrun with glitch users.
i strongly suggest you flip to the other side of this argument and attempt to set the presedent that glitching ISNT ok.
:P
from the guy who brought to you the Inf4m0us invisable shotgunners :P
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1506
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:38:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote: am I wrong in saying you never participated in the tournament, therefore you have no right to comment on the size and scope and impact of it?
Half of them aren't yours. I think this thread now has more posts than the announcements thread about the tournament.
No, I wasn't in the tournament. I was travelling at the time -- but I wouldn't have taken part anyway. However, whether you like it or not the issues we are talking about are not simply "the tournament" and just like you, I can voice my opinion if I want. Deal with it.
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DootDoot
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
103
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:38:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Arirana wrote: What makes it wrong?
Arirana wrote:I know glitching isn't fun for the other side or is it in anyway honorable. You answered this question for yourself. Like I said, you knew it was wrong, you knew it was cheating, but you did it anyway. This is called antisocial behavior, for those who are not aware. The fact that you have absolutely no remorse for doing something you knew was wrong tells me that you may be a sociopath. Maybe you should go seek some help, before you hurt someone, or yourself. As far as not comparing a game to real life, your morals are your morals, whether practiced in reality, or virtual reality. Your outlook on life directly effects everything you do in life, whether you want to admit that or not is immaterial.
You need to quit this game you are so confused.....
From your two weeks of defending forge gun's and calling them perfect... the only problem is you have to ban roof top camping...
To now your post about how he play's his video games reflect's his life? your just a plague on these forum's. and game. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
978
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:39:00 -
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DootDoot wrote:That is kinda how the world works.... I know all our parent's shelter us at a young age.... But the World isn't all rainbow's and sunshine....
The law's and rules are about the only thing you can punish someone for.... And if you can skirt them.... then all the power to you... That is how almost everything on this planet operates....
Ignorance of a law is not a defense in any justice system anywhere in the world.
Nobody said the world is all rainbows and sunshine, quite the opposite. It is full of sociopaths who do things with no remorse, which they know society in general do not morally accept, because they were not raised to know the difference between right and wrong. |
KingBlade82
The Phoenix Federation
203
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:39:00 -
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soo what im getting from this thread is IWS saying exploits are a fair game move and allowed? well **** :D that opens up a world of possibilities for me |
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Heimdallr69
TeamPlayers EoN.
899
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:39:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Console gamers are a bunch of softies I tell ya. You could have done it too ya know. Geez. Do some push ups... I can do it just fine but some people have morals, hard to believe right, I will never cheat or use an exploit I have a pair of balls |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1348
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:41:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Console gamers are a bunch of softies I tell ya. You could have done it too ya know. Geez. Do some push ups... I can do it just fine but some people have morals, hard to believe right, I will never cheat or use an exploit I have a pair of balls This, you will never catch me glitching or cheating to win, it's not fun, it's not satisfying, and it takes no skill. |
DootDoot
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
104
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:43:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:DootDoot wrote:That is kinda how the world works.... I know all our parent's shelter us at a young age.... But the World isn't all rainbow's and sunshine....
The law's and rules are about the only thing you can punish someone for.... And if you can skirt them.... then all the power to you... That is how almost everything on this planet operates....
Ignorance of a law is not a defense in any justice system anywhere in the world. Nobody said the world is all rainbows and sunshine, quite the opposite. It is full of sociopaths who do things with no remorse, which they know society in general do not morally accept, because they were not raised to know the difference between right and wrong.
Again prove your absolute ignorance in every post you make.
That video was made before CCP admitted anything about a "melee glitch"......... OMG no rules where broken.... just a bunch of hurt feelings and peoples make believe "Honor" in a video game.
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3960
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:44:00 -
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Arirana wrote: Let me tell you something, being honorable is a choice, and there are alot of different types of honor. Honor on a broken video game is non-existent, let me tell you that right now. However, there is honor here in the forums. Barely, but it is there. Like I said, how is something unhonorable "wrong"? This game isn't feudal europe it's a f*cking broken video game. What are the consequences of glitching in a video game? QQ and unfairness. And LOL at the idea that glitching in a video game makes me a dangerous sociopath IRL. Get real.
"I would prefer even to fail with honor than win by cheating." -- Sophocles (496-406 bc)
Just my personal opinion too. At least this way I don't have to cheat to win
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
978
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:45:00 -
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Arirana wrote: Let me tell you something, being honorable is a choice, and there are alot of different types of honor. Honor on a broken video game is non-existent, let me tell you that right now. However, there is honor here in the forums. Barely, but it is there. Like I said, how is something unhonorable "wrong"? This game isn't feudal europe it's a f*cking broken video game. What are the consequences of glitching in a video game? QQ and unfairness. And LOL at the idea that glitching in a video game makes me a dangerous sociopath IRL. Get real.
So, the fact there are no consequences to something justifies doing it even if it is wrong?
So all the warlords in Africa are justified murdering their own people, because, well, there are no consequences.
According to your own statements, the only thing preventing you from acting out your sociopathy in real life, is the fact that your actions would have consequences, which you aren't willing to face.
So now you are a sociopath and a coward. |
Omareth Nasadra
QcGOLD
109
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:48:00 -
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18 pages of buthurt and bitter vets, get over it |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
978
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:48:00 -
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DootDoot wrote:
Again prove your absolute ignorance in every post you make.
How so? Did I not say:
One does not need to be told when something is wrong, in order to know that the thing is wrong. Unless the person in question is a true sociopath with no concept of right or wrong.
Your argument is moot.
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3960
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:48:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Arirana wrote: Let me tell you something, being honorable is a choice, and there are alot of different types of honor. Honor on a broken video game is non-existent, let me tell you that right now. However, there is honor here in the forums. Barely, but it is there. Like I said, how is something unhonorable "wrong"? This game isn't feudal europe it's a f*cking broken video game. What are the consequences of glitching in a video game? QQ and unfairness. And LOL at the idea that glitching in a video game makes me a dangerous sociopath IRL. Get real.
So, the fact there are no consequences to something justifies doing it even if it is wrong?
That's the point he's making, and tbh, after him saying that there's no need to continue arguing with him. That logic should tell you all you need to know about the individual you're engaged with in this discussion.
Anywho, I said I wasn't going to stay long in here, but IWS got me all moist
I'll take my leave now until he surfaces again. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1506
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:49:00 -
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Speaking of moral high ground.
I'm not sure threatening repercussions because you aren't getting what you want is very honorable... nor is attacking people who really aren't in a position to influence the outcome of your cause.
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Arirana
Ancient Exiles
119
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:50:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Arirana wrote: Let me tell you something, being honorable is a choice, and there are alot of different types of honor. Honor on a broken video game is non-existent, let me tell you that right now. However, there is honor here in the forums. Barely, but it is there. Like I said, how is something unhonorable "wrong"? This game isn't feudal europe it's a f*cking broken video game. What are the consequences of glitching in a video game? QQ and unfairness. And LOL at the idea that glitching in a video game makes me a dangerous sociopath IRL. Get real.
So, the fact there are no consequences to something justifies doing it even if it is wrong? So all the warlords in Africa are justified murdering their own people, because, well, there are no consequences. According to your own statements, the only thing preventing you from acting out your sociopathy in real life, is the fact that your actions would have consequences, which you aren't willing to face. So now you are a sociopath and a coward. Where is you brain? Did you ever have one?
Quote: So, the fact there are no consequences to something justifies doing it even if it is wrong?
The direct result of the action in question is also considered a consequence. Warlords murdering their own people is a negative consequence. What I mean was, there are no severe/real consequences that I can be accountable for that make me possibly a sociopath. Only an ******* on the internet. Ohh I was an ******* on the internet. Sure it was wrong. But its such a small, insignificant wrong that you're blowing it out of proportion. So because a kid fries some ants with a magnifying glass he should get help? |
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