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DootDoot
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
99
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Posted - 2013.09.29 15:33:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:On the contrary, melee is cool.
I dig nova knifes, cause you have to be fragile as hell to pull off the high damage hits.
The glitch has no check or balance attached however. It's broken.
You only dig it if they are weaker then you?
its like this in every FPS game... but DUST needs to be different!!! cuz CoD still allows it :o |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1659
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Posted - 2013.09.29 15:38:00 -
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Define weaker?
They hit harder, move faster having better scan detection and better dampening to mask themselves. There has to be a balance to that.
A lack of HP is that balance.
Arirana has no such balance. He can see everybody due to active scanner, has high HP, moves ridiculously fast and has can kill multiple targets in a row with ease.
Even the stealthiest nova knifer has to pick his fights. He can't drop everybody instantly like a glitcher can. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1495
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Posted - 2013.09.29 15:39:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Reputation is everything.
People who QQ too much also get a reputation. Relax. It's over. Done. |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
1093
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Posted - 2013.09.29 15:41:00 -
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The melee glitch makes me shake my head. But IMO it's the least of the issues with dust. The whole game makes every FPS player shake there head.
I can't show a video of any PC battle or even CB without any fps player SHAKING THERE HEAD. lol
*I think it's a mmo player mentality*
Probably. But before you come in with the "CAMPING" AND "SNIPING"
look up what exploiting is, and see the difference. But this is dust, and this **** HAS ALWAYS BEEN HERE. Players that suck are going to exploit. end of story. it's not rocket science.
In a all fps community the unfortunate person who exploited a glitch will get trolled and harassed into oblivion. But many here migrated from dcuo and eve and follow the eve way of things. So you just have to suck it up.
Play FW or pubs. And tho I miss CB, I do remember how those battles were.
Tho I find amusing is those that make things worse by using the "it's just a game" LOL Words you don't say in a FPS.
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Oh..man. The resistance forums were great. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1659
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Posted - 2013.09.29 15:41:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Reputation is everything. People who QQ too much also get a reputation. Relax. It's over. Done.
Clearly it isn't. |
KenKaniff69
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
516
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Posted - 2013.09.29 15:44:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:Dengru wrote:I don't see how CPMs can ever matter after the terrible precedent IWS has set in regards to so many issues presented to him over the months. You might as well let troll alts be CPMs. Whether or not it's ok for Proto melee modules to be as strong as they are, it's demonstrably broken when paired with that glitch. It's obviously very different from nova knives and breach shotguns. CPM is nothing more then a forum tag. it means nothing and IWS is the only one who even still plays. at this point its just a "guy with an overinflated sence of importance" tag no offence IWS... but can you get back to work at creating the system to elect CPM members so we can replace you and make the tag matter again? Get here now. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=111274&find=unread |
DootDoot
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
99
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Posted - 2013.09.29 15:44:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:
I dig nova knifes, cause you have to be fragile as hell to pull off the high damage hits.
You can back pedal all you like. he is no weaker or stronger then the average proto assault... He's on even footing. just with melee instead of a gun.
Sounds like he made a really good Fit and invested skill points into it. AND THEN uses tactic's like a scanner and that's just way to unfair.
You are a picture of those CoD people complainaing that they got 1 shot melee'd.... Welcome to First person shooters... |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
1094
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Posted - 2013.09.29 15:49:00 -
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DootDoot wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:
I dig nova knifes, cause you have to be fragile as hell to pull off the high damage hits.
You can back pedal all you like. he is no weaker or stronger then the average proto assault... He's on even footing. just with melee instead of a gun. Sounds like he made a really good Fit and invested skill points into it. AND THEN uses tactic's like a scanner and that's just way to unfair. You are a picture of those CoD people complainaing that they got 1 shot melee'd.... Welcome to First person shooters...
different games. you get hated with COD. and I can see why, when you compare COD melee with BF. Where in BF you get props for having knife kills as your primary. not kidding, check there forums. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1659
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Posted - 2013.09.29 15:50:00 -
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DootDoot wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:
I dig nova knifes, cause you have to be fragile as hell to pull off the high damage hits.
You can back pedal all you like. he is no weaker or stronger then the average proto assault... He's on even footing. just with melee instead of a gun. Sounds like he made a really good Fit and invested skill points into it. AND THEN uses tactic's like a scanner and that's just way to unfair. You are a picture of those CoD people complainaing that they got 1 shot melee'd.... Welcome to First person shooters...
You are a picture of every forum troll too scared to post on his main, as well as a clown with an agenda.
You also probably shouldn't be using the line "welcome to first person shooters" on me, as I am the type who would money match IRL and send you home wearing a trash bag. |
DootDoot
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
99
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Posted - 2013.09.29 15:56:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:DootDoot wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:
I dig nova knifes, cause you have to be fragile as hell to pull off the high damage hits.
You can back pedal all you like. he is no weaker or stronger then the average proto assault... He's on even footing. just with melee instead of a gun. Sounds like he made a really good Fit and invested skill points into it. AND THEN uses tactic's like a scanner and that's just way to unfair. You are a picture of those CoD people complainaing that they got 1 shot melee'd.... Welcome to First person shooters... You are a picture of every forum troll too scared to post on his main, as well as a clown with an agenda. You also probably shouldn't be using the line "welcome to first person shooters" on me, as I am the type who would money match IRL and send you home wearing a trash bag.
The agenda is very simple to point you QQ'ers out who clog up the forum's with tears about things not beeing fair. its wasting the game and everyone's time. Remember the FAMAS? you guys are clown's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXXwL0QmYB8 <-- welcome to first person shooters..... because you obviously don;t get it. |
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Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1660
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Posted - 2013.09.29 15:59:00 -
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I don't play bad games, so the references you keep making to COD are only slightly contributing to this conversation we are having.
You certainly appear to be well versed in them, however.
Oh, and before the obvious answer -- Dust isn't a bad game. It's a good game that had its legs blown off. |
DJINN Rampage
Ancient Exiles
205
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Posted - 2013.09.29 17:17:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Define weaker?
They hit harder, move faster having better scan detection and better dampening to mask themselves. There has to be a balance to that.
A lack of HP is that balance.
Arirana has no such balance. He can see everybody due to active scanner, has high HP, moves ridiculously fast and has can kill multiple targets in a row with ease.
Even the stealthiest nova knifer has to pick his fights. He can't drop everybody instantly like a glitcher can.
have you ever seen radar? and i can confirm ari can only kill 2 in a row before having to rely on shotguns. |
soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
394
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Posted - 2013.09.29 17:18:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Define weaker?
They hit harder, move faster having better scan detection and better dampening to mask themselves. There has to be a balance to that.
A lack of HP is that balance.
Arirana has no such balance. He can see everybody due to active scanner, has high HP, moves ridiculously fast and has can kill multiple targets in a row with ease.
Even the stealthiest nova knifer has to pick his fights. He can't drop everybody instantly like a glitcher can. have you ever seen radar? and i can confirm ari can only kill 2 in a row before having to rely on shotguns.
radar is the dust version of usain bolt
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Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1669
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Posted - 2013.09.29 17:19:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Define weaker?
They hit harder, move faster having better scan detection and better dampening to mask themselves. There has to be a balance to that.
A lack of HP is that balance.
Arirana has no such balance. He can see everybody due to active scanner, has high HP, moves ridiculously fast and has can kill multiple targets in a row with ease.
Even the stealthiest nova knifer has to pick his fights. He can't drop everybody instantly like a glitcher can. have you ever seen radar? and i can confirm ari can only kill 2 in a row before having to rely on shotguns.
I can recall at least one instance where he killed three people on a hack by himself in less than a second, so that isn't true. |
DJINN Rampage
Ancient Exiles
205
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Posted - 2013.09.29 17:22:00 -
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also, until kobrah pays me what he owes everything he says is a lie.
how do we even know that video is from the tournament? since AE has fought SyN multiple times during the FEC war he could've taken the video at any time and just said it was from the tourney out of spite. he's a liar and less than a man. please take anything he says with a grain of salt. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1669
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Posted - 2013.09.29 17:27:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:also, until kobrah pays me what he owes everything he says is a lie.
how do we even know that video is from the tournament? since AE has fought SyN multiple times during the FEC war he could've taken the video at any time and just said it was from the tourney out of spite. he's a liar and less than a man. please take anything he says with a grain of salt.
The server logs confirm that Arirana was present and glitching out the game.
CCP holds all of the evidence, it's up to them whether or not they want to do the right thing.
But if they don't, this black mark will forever stain their reputation.
I wonder if I should start contacting media outlets if we don't get a response soon? I hear they like that. Seemed to work well back during Incarna. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1497
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Posted - 2013.09.29 17:30:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Crash Monster wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Reputation is everything. People who QQ too much also get a reputation. Relax. It's over. Done. Clearly it isn't.
Well, okay then, it's all over but the crying. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1497
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Posted - 2013.09.29 17:31:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:But if they don't, this black mark will forever stain their reputation.
I wonder if I should start contacting media outlets if we don't get a response soon? I hear they like that. Seemed to work well back during Incarna.
LOL. A little over the top.
Is your mommy a lawyer perhaps -- that's worked really well in these parts before! |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9056
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Posted - 2013.09.29 17:37:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:also, until kobrah pays me what he owes everything he says is a lie.
how do we even know that video is from the tournament? since AE has fought SyN multiple times during the FEC war he could've taken the video at any time and just said it was from the tourney out of spite. he's a liar and less than a man. please take anything he says with a grain of salt. The server logs confirm that Arirana was present and glitching out the game. CCP holds all of the evidence, it's up to them whether or not they want to do the right thing. But if they don't, this black mark will forever stain their reputation. I wonder if I should start contacting media outlets if we don't get a response soon? I hear they like that. Seemed to work well back during Incarna.
How do you know what the servers track and don't track? Are you a CCP database or network engineer? |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1669
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Posted - 2013.09.29 17:46:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:also, until kobrah pays me what he owes everything he says is a lie.
how do we even know that video is from the tournament? since AE has fought SyN multiple times during the FEC war he could've taken the video at any time and just said it was from the tourney out of spite. he's a liar and less than a man. please take anything he says with a grain of salt. The server logs confirm that Arirana was present and glitching out the game. CCP holds all of the evidence, it's up to them whether or not they want to do the right thing. But if they don't, this black mark will forever stain their reputation. I wonder if I should start contacting media outlets if we don't get a response soon? I hear they like that. Seemed to work well back during Incarna. How do you know what the servers track and don't track? Are you a CCP database or network engineer?
Is damage done client side? No?
Then the server tracks it, genius. |
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
1498
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Posted - 2013.09.29 17:53:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Define weaker?
They hit harder, move faster having better scan detection and better dampening to mask themselves. There has to be a balance to that.
A lack of HP is that balance.
Arirana has no such balance. He can see everybody due to active scanner, has high HP, moves ridiculously fast and has can kill multiple targets in a row with ease.
Even the stealthiest nova knifer has to pick his fights. He can't drop everybody instantly like a glitcher can. Dude aris melee suit has a little over 300 shield and 100 armor... That's 400 total hp.
LOL my scout has more hp than that. Don't tell me he is uncounter able because AE Faced ari in a pc like a week ago and couldn't get into melee range on us in the biomass map. |
Dengru
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
119
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Posted - 2013.09.29 17:59:00 -
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Guys really, the melee glitching is not that same as nova knives. With two Proto modules I can one hit all scouts and low ehp suits with regular melees-- using glitch, you can easily generate more dps than any suit can conceivably have. Anyone saying its similar to cod is ridiculous. The modules are intended for raw damage not extreme dps This is turning into another of those 10/10 IWS threads 'I have no experience with the mechanics in question so I'm gonna spam analogous scenarios cause my job as CPM is to blithely antagonize everyone.' |
J0LLY R0G3R
Unkn0wn Killers
126
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Posted - 2013.09.29 18:09:00 -
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awww |
Thumb Green
Novashift
427
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Posted - 2013.09.29 18:11:00 -
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Hard to believe there are so many people defending the use of an exploit but this thread really goes to show how pathetic this childish community is.
For those saying CCP hasn't acknowledged it as an exploit; you're wrong, they've already done so. It's even in the 1.5 patch notes.
Quote:Bug fixes and polish * Network library has been optimized for better network performance. * Improved server-client performance. * Rendering fixes. * Fixed melee exploit that allowed multiple fast melee strikes. * Fixed issue with drop uplinks that (sometimes) prevents valid drop uplinks from being displayed. * Fixed RDV navigation issues around sockets in almost all situations.
You people need to harden the fck up and stop defending a crutch, you pathetic scrubs. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9064
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Posted - 2013.09.29 18:21:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Hard to believe there are so many people defending the use of an exploit but this thread really goes to show how pathetic this childish community is. For those saying CCP hasn't acknowledged it as an exploit; you're wrong, they've already done so. It's even in the 1.5 patch notes. Quote:Bug fixes and polish * Network library has been optimized for better network performance. * Improved server-client performance. * Rendering fixes. * Fixed melee exploit that allowed multiple fast melee strikes. * Fixed issue with drop uplinks that (sometimes) prevents valid drop uplinks from being displayed. * Fixed RDV navigation issues around sockets in almost all situations. You people need to harden the fck up and stop defending a crutch, you pathetic scrubs.
It's more about enforcing and reto-acting on a tournament already order and prizes are well on their way.
I can almost guarantee that everyone is this thread will also agree that the glitch should be removed.
What people cannot agree upon is what actions should be take now, that the tournament is over to with one or more possible alliances that used the glitch to which CCP is at fault for letting exist, and further at fault for not declaring it an exploit which is the only actionable reaction possible that would have lead to a ban back then but its a bit too late now-ish. |
SgtDoughnut
Red Star Jr. EoN.
215
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Posted - 2013.09.29 18:28:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:Dengru wrote:I don't see how CPMs can ever matter after the terrible precedent IWS has set in regards to so many issues presented to him over the months. You might as well let troll alts be CPMs. Whether or not it's ok for Proto melee modules to be as strong as they are, it's demonstrably broken when paired with that glitch. It's obviously very different from nova knives and breach shotguns. CPM is nothing more then a forum tag. it means nothing and IWS is the only one who even still plays. at this point its just a "guy with an overinflated sence of importance" tag no offence IWS... but can you get back to work at creating the system to elect CPM members so we can replace you and make the tag matter again?
The tag will only matter when they agree with you, well in your opinion anyway. When they disagree they will of course be scrubs and defending things that are unfair and such. Really most people only care what devs/community reps say when they agree with it, if they don't like it, its open season on em. |
HowDidThatTaste
Ancient Exiles
3671
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Posted - 2013.09.29 18:31:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Hard to believe there are so many people defending the use of an exploit but this thread really goes to show how pathetic this childish community is. For those saying CCP hasn't acknowledged it as an exploit; you're wrong, they've already done so. It's even in the 1.5 patch notes. Quote:Bug fixes and polish * Network library has been optimized for better network performance. * Improved server-client performance. * Rendering fixes. * Fixed melee exploit that allowed multiple fast melee strikes. * Fixed issue with drop uplinks that (sometimes) prevents valid drop uplinks from being displayed. * Fixed RDV navigation issues around sockets in almost all situations. You people need to harden the fck up and stop defending a crutch, you pathetic scrubs.
So by using your logic anyone who used an LAV to run someone over was also exploiting game mechanics. Because you know ccp fixed that as well How about Flaylock spam when it was flavor of the month also using an exploit because they fixed it?
What about contact nades using an exploit because once again they fixed it?
seriously we have a winner for new KING QQ cobra who welches on bets! Congrats your famous now! |
Thumb Green
Novashift
427
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Posted - 2013.09.29 18:32:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
It's more about enforcing and reto-acting on a tournament already order and prizes are well on their way.
I can almost guarantee that everyone is this thread will also agree that the glitch should be removed.
It's like you haven't even read the replies defending it; the tournament is irrelevant to their replies. Many of the people defending the melee glitch in here have been defending it since it became public. They've also defended older exploits; They don't want this crap fixed. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1669
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Posted - 2013.09.29 18:35:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Thumb Green wrote:Hard to believe there are so many people defending the use of an exploit but this thread really goes to show how pathetic this childish community is. For those saying CCP hasn't acknowledged it as an exploit; you're wrong, they've already done so. It's even in the 1.5 patch notes. Quote:Bug fixes and polish * Network library has been optimized for better network performance. * Improved server-client performance. * Rendering fixes. * Fixed melee exploit that allowed multiple fast melee strikes. * Fixed issue with drop uplinks that (sometimes) prevents valid drop uplinks from being displayed. * Fixed RDV navigation issues around sockets in almost all situations. You people need to harden the fck up and stop defending a crutch, you pathetic scrubs. So by using your logic anyone who used an LAV to run someone over was also exploiting game mechanics. Because you know ccp fixed that as well How about Flaylock spam when it was flavor of the month also using an exploit because they fixed it? What about contact nades using an exploit because once again they fixed it? seriously we have a winner for new KING QQ cobra who welches on bets! Congrats your famous now!
Murder Taxi's were never called an exploit by CCP.
This was.
That's the difference, scrublet. |
Thumb Green
Novashift
427
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Posted - 2013.09.29 18:35:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:
So by using your logic anyone who used an LAV to run someone over was also exploiting game mechanics. Because you know ccp fixed that as well How about Flaylock spam when it was flavor of the month also using an exploit because they fixed it?
What about contact nades using an exploit because once again they fixed it?
It wasn't a glitch that allowed people to run someone over with an LAV, it wasn't a glitch that allowed people to spam Flaylocks, and guess what, contact nades weren't glitched either. I'm sure you see a pattern there. |
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