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Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
1047
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Posted - 2013.09.29 06:05:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Thumb Green wrote:Lots of scrubs in here defending an exploit. I'm not saying you're not good players; just saying only scrubs defend the use of exploits. lol yea you never played football before...throw some dirt on it.
so steroids is a completly acceptable part of football, its available to everyone, so they should just HTFU and join the club if the dont want to be stomped by the roid brigade
right?
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
1091
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Posted - 2013.09.29 06:06:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Thumb Green wrote:Lots of scrubs in here defending an exploit. I'm not saying you're not good players; just saying only scrubs defend the use of exploits. lol yea you never played football before...throw some dirt on it.
I have. If your talking about American football that is. QB for 4 years in HS. And when you get caught having used it in the playoffs they pay heavy for it. Ask the pats, or saints. |
Lamar Wheeler
D3LTA FORC3
0
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Posted - 2013.09.29 06:09:00 -
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Heinrich plays, mostly at night or early morning. He cares about game and wants it to succeed. Me I care less and less every day |
Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
1047
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Posted - 2013.09.29 06:12:00 -
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Lamar Wheeler wrote:Heinrich plays, mostly at night or early morning. He cares about game and wants it to succeed. Me I care less and less every day
forgive my previous comments then.
its just IWS that gives the CPM a bad name |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4293
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Posted - 2013.09.29 06:14:00 -
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posting just to say lolIWS such a waste of a CPM spot |
First Prophet
Unkn0wn Killers
1108
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Posted - 2013.09.29 06:16:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Thumb Green wrote:Lots of scrubs in here defending an exploit. I'm not saying you're not good players; just saying only scrubs defend the use of exploits. lol yea you never played football before...throw some dirt on it. so steroids is a completly acceptable part of football, its available to everyone, so they should just HTFU and join the club if the dont want to be stomped by the roid brigade They really should. Might actually watch a few games if they did. :p |
Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
1047
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Posted - 2013.09.29 06:23:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Thumb Green wrote:Lots of scrubs in here defending an exploit. I'm not saying you're not good players; just saying only scrubs defend the use of exploits. lol yea you never played football before...throw some dirt on it. so steroids is a completly acceptable part of football, its available to everyone, so they should just HTFU and join the club if the dont want to be stomped by the roid brigade They really should. Might actually watch a few games if they did. :p
why stop at steroids, i vote we make genetically modified humans to play the game, without padding, and to the death.
but of course thats no longer football
it cheepens the game... and its only entertaining to the spectators |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2525
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Posted - 2013.09.29 06:27:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:posting just to say lolIWS such a waste of a CPM spot You say that like you believe the CPM actually matters... |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
1488
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Posted - 2013.09.29 06:35:00 -
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Trial Mix wrote: You should push for them to be disqualified, with the proof here and players on their team admitting they know Arirana did indeed knowingly and intentionally glitch in the synergy match to exploit their win there's simply no reason besides apathy and more importantly incompetence.
Hey now.. I don't think we should be disqualified. At the time, the melee glitch had not been confirmed by ccp as a glitch nor very well known. Sooo.. I think a simple slap on the wrist like a loss of the SyN game round and a stern msg from CCP tellin ari not to continue (which we told him to stop anyway afterward) would of been enough. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9034
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Posted - 2013.09.29 06:46:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Trial Mix wrote: You should push for them to be disqualified, with the proof here and players on their team admitting they know Arirana did indeed knowingly and intentionally glitch in the synergy match to exploit their win there's simply no reason besides apathy and more importantly incompetence.
Hey now.. I don't think we should be disqualified. At the time, the melee glitch had not been confirmed by ccp as a glitch nor very well known. Sooo.. I think a simple slap on the wrist like a loss of the SyN game round and a stern msg from CCP tellin ari not to continue (which we told him to stop anyway afterward) would of been enough.
^This is why I have no sympathy for the slow pokes, trynones, and the helpless. |
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Aqil Aegivan
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
209
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Posted - 2013.09.29 07:16:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber,
How do you represent the community when you spend so much time attacking it and acting like it has no valid criticisms of CCP?
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Stop wasting your yelling on stupid issues, save it for real ones, some folks are deaf up there.
The community decides for itself what issues are real and which ones aren't. You'd know that if you were really trying to represent us. If your role is not to lead then telling us which issues are important and which ones aren't is hypocrisy of the first order.
You say attacking you or CCP is a waste of time? Maybe spend less time attacking the community you supposedly represent and that won't be our default response.
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Pretty empty call coming from a guy that would have quit the CPM assuredly.
Objection, speculative. |
Funkmaster Whale
0uter.Heaven
705
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Posted - 2013.09.29 07:37:00 -
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Ok first off it's getting fixed in 1.5. Second, we've been down this road before.
This whole "tournament" is what it is: a pointless, sloppy event. In the end, it doesn't mean much to most people. Simply by exacerbating this whole issue you're giving it more attention than it needs. Besides, what does AE get from it all? Naming a planet? I don't know about you guys but to me that just seems like a very silly prize.
Stop wasting your breath over the issue. We all know Ari has been exploiting for a long time. His whole antic is going to come to an end and we'll start to see how he fares then. Until such time, let him enjoy his moment of fame since CCP obviously has no intent of doing anything about it. |
DJINN Rampage
Ancient Exiles
205
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Posted - 2013.09.29 07:53:00 -
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and you kobrah.... where's my money. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9037
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Posted - 2013.09.29 08:07:00 -
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Aqil Aegivan wrote:Iron Wolf Saber, How do you represent the community when you spend so much time attacking it and acting like it has no valid criticisms of CCP? Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Stop wasting your yelling on stupid issues, save it for real ones, some folks are deaf up there. The community decides for itself what issues are real and which ones aren't. You'd know that if you were really trying to represent us. If your role is not to lead then telling us which issues are important and which ones aren't is hypocrisy of the first order. You say attacking you or CCP is a waste of time? Maybe spend less time attacking the community you supposedly represent and that won't be our default response. Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Pretty empty call coming from a guy that would have quit the CPM assuredly. Objection, speculative.
Counter attacking actually. What's the new term people been saying, 'passive aggressive'. Traps are only sprung when stepped on. Most of these Massholes don't get it, they never will get it so the best I can do is burn them one at a time to make them start thinking a bit more because simple one shots taunts don't work on me. I have been counter trolling on forums for nearly 20 years. I asked Jenza to stop posting on the forums and let me deal with you guys, because my armor is far thicker than her's.
Talk to me like a normal person, a person who listens, a person whose only real responsibility in the CPM is to only listen and write and I won't bite you freaking head off. As for what I do on the forums and do behind close curtains are two completely different things as an example I already asked for official correspondence to the issue.
As for most issues; Name it, CPM probably had spoken to CCP about it. What little the CPM misses the CCP Community team catches. We help apply emphasis and reason as to why problems are problems and try to help CCP resolve it the best manner possible. What is hard for the CPM is trying to bring that back over the wall without breaking NDA.
CPM is not a true position of leadership, nowhere do I nor you should expect any bowing down, submission, or anyone to turn face just for the CPM. It's wrong, it's harmful, and does little for the community if we're being ego waving sticks trying to beat each other to be king of the hill. CPM is more about being part of that hill, getting stepped on, getting upset, heartbroken, disappointed, and real, but having the resolve to see things through the good parts, the cheering and celebrating and sharing it back with CCP. CPM are tools, and like any good tool its best when used properly. I am sorry we the CPM 0 didn't come with an instruction manual and it will be CPM 1's job to probably finalize, test and revise that as well.
I have suggested better ways to do business. I cannot force you to take that path; you guys could listen to the things I say, take it face value, read into too much into it or disbelieve it. It's completely up to you on how you use my 'assistance.' The message I gave today was wasted breath before because you have people here that tear apart because it hurts them because they are beyond wrong and don't know how to admit it. I will continue to repeat the message until more people get it.
Hans has used different words:
"Help me, help you."
You guys have my skype, twitter, my eve mail names for both eve and dust, and there is always the council's chambers where I don't have to wade through a lot of the minmatar scrap rejects here. All I ask is to be reasonable, level headed and something that can be well heard when you post there. Pretend you are writing to CCP because I just may show that to a community team member who can easily yank on other developers, people in charge, GMs to get something official.
As for Mavado https://twitter.com/eon_NuMbz
All I see is impatience, bitter love, and no foresight on how much self inflicted harm he is doing to himself. I know what bitter harm I am self inflicting and more than willing to pay price for it because the investment will pay off.
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Now before you go posting on the council chamber forums let me give you some tips.
1. Try to present the overall issue, don't ask for punishment but do have a goal such as getting an official response instead.
2. Be reasonable, CCP is more than capable of trolling trolls and have far scarier tools such as a ban hammer.
and the biggest one
3. Understand that there is very likely any absolute way that you can prove that Alliance teams from 2nd to - nth place did not also used the exploit to get to their positions.
^ This is probably going to kill any actionable response by this alone and it will make your case far harder to make. Good luck on your appeal, be quick about it, unnaming a planet causes massive fubar issues from community to technical likely. |
Asirius Medaius
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
526
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Posted - 2013.09.29 08:17:00 -
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Moochie Cricket wrote:The number of VERY close matches between us and AE while ariana used this glitch is easily over 20. And each time it was used it was a game changer, with ariana topping the leaderboard in kills. Kinda hard to take a compound when someone can glitch kill an entire squad in seconds. One of the MANY reasons I am done with dust.
As the wise words of FlyingPig (from your own corp)...
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
1052
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Posted - 2013.09.29 08:46:00 -
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What if AE shares the prizes from the tourney?
...I meant with me...I want prizes and I will exploit anything and or anybody to get them. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1510
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Posted - 2013.09.29 09:10:00 -
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To late to argue about this now, glitch or not still is inside the game parameters, and things like this needs to be discuss BEFORE the tournament starts, not after it have finish.
If it isn't a specif tournament rule that says that you can't use it, you don't breaking any rules. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1279
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Posted - 2013.09.29 09:14:00 -
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Let me be clear, this was my very first run-in with the melee glitch, my corp mates warned me of it so i set up my phone to record since I figured it would be pretty clear glitching in a tourney should result in a ban. Furthermore, this happened at a time when the game didn't aim for you and hit detection was still terrible, so it was almost impossible to combat this garbage. infinite sprint glitch + kinetic catalyzers + melee glitch = one man wrecking ball, and this is not something that should happen in a "prime league" tournament.
So the CPM condones glitching in tourney, that's absolutely incredible to me. The "voice of the people" thinks it's perfectly okay to exploit game-breaking glitches to win official CCP-run tournament matches.
And people wonder why the population drops faster by the day. |
steadyhand amarr
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
1418
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Posted - 2013.09.29 09:19:00 -
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I thought the finals were teanplayers and AE I don't see any of them kicking up a fuess. When didn't you raise it as an issue when it affected your matches at the time. Did you raise it as a ticked with both ccp and the people running the torny.
Your whole thread is coming off as a soreloserto be honest. Tbh if you get AE disqualified teamplayers will take they win and they clearly dont care. |
Faquira Bleuetta
TeamPlayers EoN.
86
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Posted - 2013.09.29 09:22:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:This is video footage of me being glitched multiple times by merc Ariana, of Ancient Exiles, during a tournament match (Synergy vs. AE) (recorded on a potato, watch in HD) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZzknb2SiOgas you can clearly see and hear, the melee glitch was exploited and clearly changed the outcome of the match. All of this during CCP's marquee "PRIME LEAGUE" tournament. Members of my corp sent this video in to urgent fury, contacted devs in IRC, and sent in support tickets. Did CCP remove AE from the tourney? No!Did CCP dock AE points for using a game-breaking glitch in the tourney? No!Did CCP so much as contact their members to give them a slap on the wrist, or say "stop it?" NO!How in good conscience can the developers can allow a team who has been observed, and recorded CHEATING in an OFFICIAL THREE MONTH LONG TOURNAMENT to not only continue to participate, but win the tourney overall? In this thread you will probably see a lot of AE damage control, saying things like "LOL WE STOPPED" and "IT DIDNT MATTER LEL" when Ariana recorded nearly 100+ kills in the 3 matches against us, and none of that reasoning changes the fact that they were recorded using a game breaking glitch in the tournament. The worst part of all of this, is because CCP never took any action, more deserving corps never got their shot in the final rounds. Why won't CCP do anything? Do they not care anymore? Have they given up on their game? Will devs continue to turn a blind eye to this thread and my pleas for help in the announcements section, support tickets and IRC? Furthermore, what would the community do? Ban their corp from the tourney for condoning and knowingly exploiting a game breaking glitch? dock them points? Kick them out of the semifinals and replace them with a more deserving team? Also, how do you feel about CCP turning a blind eye to this entire fiasco, ignoring people's cries for help they're losing games because the other team is CHEATING? Stay tuned.
You are already dead Hokuto Hyakuretsu Ken
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9040
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Posted - 2013.09.29 09:27:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Let me be clear, this was my very first run-in with the melee glitch, my corp mates warned me of it so i set up my phone to record since I figured it would be pretty clear glitching in a tourney should result in a ban. Furthermore, this happened at a time when the game didn't aim for you and hit detection was still terrible, so it was almost impossible to combat this garbage. infinite sprint glitch + kinetic catalyzers + melee glitch = one man wrecking ball, and this is not something that should happen in a "prime league" tournament.
So the CPM condones glitching in tourney, that's absolutely incredible to me. The "voice of the people" thinks it's perfectly okay to exploit game-breaking glitches to win official CCP-run tournament matches.
And people wonder why the population drops faster by the day.
I never said anything about approval nor encouragement of the glitch, stop imagining things. |
Faquira Bleuetta
TeamPlayers EoN.
87
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Posted - 2013.09.29 09:32:00 -
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not many can master the art of Hokuto Shin-Ken |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1279
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Posted - 2013.09.29 09:34:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Let me be clear, this was my very first run-in with the melee glitch, my corp mates warned me of it so i set up my phone to record since I figured it would be pretty clear glitching in a tourney should result in a ban. Furthermore, this happened at a time when the game didn't aim for you and hit detection was still terrible, so it was almost impossible to combat this garbage. infinite sprint glitch + kinetic catalyzers + melee glitch = one man wrecking ball, and this is not something that should happen in a "prime league" tournament.
So the CPM condones glitching in tourney, that's absolutely incredible to me. The "voice of the people" thinks it's perfectly okay to exploit game-breaking glitches to win official CCP-run tournament matches.
And people wonder why the population drops faster by the day. I never said anything about approval nor encouragement of the glitch, stop imagining things. Your message was pretty clear, you don't think there should be any punishment for winning tournament matches via glitching. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9040
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Posted - 2013.09.29 09:38:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:
Your message was pretty clear, you don't think there should be any punishment for winning tournament matches via glitching.
Your interpretation its pretty terrible. |
Faquira Bleuetta
TeamPlayers EoN.
87
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Posted - 2013.09.29 09:38:00 -
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Ariana with ur awesomeness you should try meleeglitch a tank u can do it i give 100 million if u destroy a tank
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_ZeD40Rg8A |
Faquira Bleuetta
TeamPlayers EoN.
87
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Posted - 2013.09.29 09:43:00 -
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Ariana fist of the north glitch |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1279
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Posted - 2013.09.29 09:52:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I opt the do nothing approach This isn't hard to understand, you don't think there should be anything done about glitching to win tourney matches, despite the fact WTF was disqualified for breaking the rules...yet AE can glitch and go unscaved??? |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9040
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Posted - 2013.09.29 09:54:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I opt the do nothing approach This isn't hard to understand, you don't think there should be anything done about glitching to win tourney matches, despite the fact WTF was disqualified for breaking the rules...yet AE can glitch and go unscaved???
Statement: WTF broke UF's roster rules clearly.
Counterpoint: Get back on topic.
Insult: Spelling everything out. |
Sylvana Nightwind
Expert Intervention Caldari State
516
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Posted - 2013.09.29 09:56:00 -
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There is no proof. Your video can be from any match and the "recording" is complete joke from off-camera from a angle that makes no sense.
Please provide real evidence and then talk cheating... and don't make drama on forums but just send ticket to GMs and talk about it. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1279
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Posted - 2013.09.29 09:56:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I opt the do nothing approach This isn't hard to understand, you don't think there should be anything done about glitching to win tourney matches, despite the fact WTF was disqualified for breaking the rules...yet AE can glitch and go unscaved??? Statement: WTF broke UF's roster rules clearly. Counterpoint: Get back on topic. Insult: Spelling everything out. Pretty sure UF has a clear rule on "no glitching/exploits allowed", how do you not know this? Why are you making excuses for glitchers? |
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