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Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
1043
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Posted - 2013.09.29 03:18:00 -
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low genius wrote:King Kobrah wrote:low genius wrote:King Kobrah wrote:grunt party wrote:umm hello they are ccp read some back ground info on them and u will se how they do things
If someone used a glitch to instantly wipe out half a fleet in an EVE tournament, do you think CCP would let that fly? Yeah, no CCP allows griefing, but not game breaking glitches in official matches. is the 'glitch' available to everyone, or just the 'badguys'? if it's available to everyone, then it's on the table as an option. That's not how it works though, just because 'everyone' can do it (ariana also exploited the infinite sprint glitch, i bet you don't even know how to perform it) doesn't mean it's okay to EXPLOIT A GAME BREAKING GLITCH IN A TOURNAMENT MATCH. Yet again you try to make the same tired argument, so I'm finished replying to frivolous nonsense. I mean, i'm sorry we disagree, but the standard way to handle this is to come to the forums and make ccp state whether or not there will be repercussions for using such a tactic. normally, anything that's available within the game mechanics is allowed. even if it's frowned upon.
thats the thing though, a glitch isnt a game machnic, game mechanics are intended gameplay, glitches are workarounds to intended gameplay :P
mele has a cap on how fast you can do mele attacks, and anything that bypasses said cap is unintended, if it wasnt then there wouldnt be a cap in the firstplace.
and so, its cheating, and its above and byond game mechanics. |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
1481
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Posted - 2013.09.29 03:40:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Still Kobrah a bet is a bet.
Are you the Kobrah from the Dark Souls forums? The generation before mine. If so honour is honour, they may not fight your honourably, but if you hold to your code then you can stand above them.
If not that probably sounds like some wanky self righteous bullshit, considering I was the biggest Gravelording Douchebag in DKS and created a User Covenant just to troll the living **** out of player in the most difficult areas..... I agree a bet is a bet. If the player wasn't in AE would you still not pay him? |
SgtDoughnut
Red Star Jr. EoN.
209
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Posted - 2013.09.29 03:51:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:grunt party wrote:umm hello they are ccp read some back ground info on them and u will se how they do things
If someone used a glitch to instantly wipe out half a fleet in an EVE tournament, do you think CCP would let that fly? Yeah, no CCP allows griefing, but not game breaking glitches in official matches.
It has happened, ccp allowed it, hell one team bought their final 3 wins. CCP gave no *****. |
Rowdy Railgunner
TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN.
47
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Posted - 2013.09.29 03:52:00 -
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What the hell kind of ****** angle is that you recoded this vid in? Unwatchable. |
Roner General
Ancient Exiles
14
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Posted - 2013.09.29 03:53:00 -
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I melee glitched CCP Frame to death about a week ago and got no slap on the wrist from him ooh welllll |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1250
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Posted - 2013.09.29 04:01:00 -
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LOL this is funny ish. You ever played against a safety? Those guys will do you dirty when the ref is not looking. Do you cry about it? No. You get back on that field and burn em next time.
I really think if you guys would have won it, then it wouldn't even been a problem for you. Isn't that odd?
Some times you gotta suck it up... |
Thumb Green
Novashift
422
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Posted - 2013.09.29 04:03:00 -
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Lots of scrubs in here defending an exploit. I'm not saying you're not good players; just saying only scrubs defend the use of exploits. |
Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
82
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Posted - 2013.09.29 04:08:00 -
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I just call it karate... |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9030
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Posted - 2013.09.29 04:23:00 -
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When most other games have point blank killers such as CoD's knifing, its not that bad of an exploit, I mean, you're an idiot to let the guy/gal get that close. Its not much different than a breach shotgun or a nova knifing in hands of a player that can get in that range. Melee aim assist is pretty broken (as in not working) and this exploit comes at the cost of almost all the user's stamina making them vulnerable to getting shot after the first victim.
Overall since CCP can't fix, prove, nor enforce it that easily without so much as a master cluster @#% of a mess I opt the do nothing approach until its fixed with a patch.
However I am just a CPM, I cannot decide for CCP, I have express my concerns about the exploit's use in the tournament having negative community impact to CCP, and honestly if you really felt it was game breaking you should have taken it to urgent fury as they're more capable of disqualifications and for matters like that Kane Spearow is your CPM man in trying to talk that mess out.
As a final word I doubt the individual using the exploit single handedly won the entire match and the individuals named so far I know would have torn your posterior a new one without the exploit at all with similar or just was bad weapons at their disposal.
You want a real exploit talk to me when people start flying around without jetpacks and infinite ammo exploits or guns firing railgun shots.
And Yes I know this is bait to make me, the CPM, or CCP bad but err on the side of caution there is your response basically telling you that you are just about too late, after the fact, and not enough stink was raised when you could have. If you want to deal with it, your fight just got that much harder, good luck but I got bigger fish to fry and I am glad for one that train wreck of a tournament is over. I know its sad that other more serious complaints about the game drowned out the initial complaint off the forums but that only tells me the guys effected by it were not interested enough to keep attention to the issue. |
pyramidhead 420
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
54
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Posted - 2013.09.29 04:27:00 -
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why isnt this scrub ariana banned yet? i can just imagine what this guy/thing looks like, fat bastarrd comes to mind. |
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
1068
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Posted - 2013.09.29 04:32:00 -
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And that's numberwang |
Aqua-Regia
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
390
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Posted - 2013.09.29 04:41:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:When most other games have point blank killers such as CoD's knifing, its not that bad of an exploit, I mean, you're an idiot to let the guy/gal get that close. Its not much different than a breach shotgun or a nova knifing in hands of a player that can get in that range. Melee aim assist is pretty broken (as in not working) and this exploit comes at the cost of almost all the user's stamina making them vulnerable to getting shot after the first victim.
Overall since CCP can't hotfix, prove, nor enforce it that easily without so much as a master cluster @#% of a mess I opt the do nothing approach until its fixed with a patch.
However I am just a CPM, I cannot decide for CCP, I have express my concerns about the exploit's use in the tournament having negative community impact to CCP, and honestly if you really felt it was game breaking you should have taken it to urgent fury as they're more capable of disqualifications and for matters like that Kane Spearow is your CPM man in trying to talk that mess out.
As a final word I doubt the individual using the exploit single handedly won the entire match and the individuals named so far I know would have torn your posterior a new one without the exploit at all with similar or just was bad weapons at their disposal.
You want a real exploit talk to me when people start flying around without jetpacks and infinite ammo exploits or guns firing railgun shots.
And Yes I know this is bait to make me, the CPM, or CCP bad but err on the side of caution there is your response basically telling you that you are just about too late, after the fact, and not enough stink was raised when you could have. If you want to deal with it, your fight just got that much harder, good luck but I got bigger fish to fry and I am glad for one that train wreck of a tournament is over. I know its sad that other more serious complaints about the game drowned out the initial petition off the forums but that only tells me the guys effected by it were not interested enough to keep attention to the issue. Threadnaughts are your friends when used right and your worst enemy when used wrong.
TL:TR
You suck if melee exploit kill you CCP Don't give a **** Too late in the game to QQ CCP/UF tournament was **** Guys don't give a **** and are your enemy You need to HTFU
yeah this is so the Dust forums. |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
1068
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Posted - 2013.09.29 04:48:00 -
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Aqua-Regia wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:When most other games have point blank killers such as CoD's knifing, its not that bad of an exploit, I mean, you're an idiot to let the guy/gal get that close. Its not much different than a breach shotgun or a nova knifing in hands of a player that can get in that range. Melee aim assist is pretty broken (as in not working) and this exploit comes at the cost of almost all the user's stamina making them vulnerable to getting shot after the first victim.
Overall since CCP can't hotfix, prove, nor enforce it that easily without so much as a master cluster @#% of a mess I opt the do nothing approach until its fixed with a patch.
However I am just a CPM, I cannot decide for CCP, I have express my concerns about the exploit's use in the tournament having negative community impact to CCP, and honestly if you really felt it was game breaking you should have taken it to urgent fury as they're more capable of disqualifications and for matters like that Kane Spearow is your CPM man in trying to talk that mess out.
As a final word I doubt the individual using the exploit single handedly won the entire match and the individuals named so far I know would have torn your posterior a new one without the exploit at all with similar or just was bad weapons at their disposal.
You want a real exploit talk to me when people start flying around without jetpacks and infinite ammo exploits or guns firing railgun shots.
And Yes I know this is bait to make me, the CPM, or CCP bad but err on the side of caution there is your response basically telling you that you are just about too late, after the fact, and not enough stink was raised when you could have. If you want to deal with it, your fight just got that much harder, good luck but I got bigger fish to fry and I am glad for one that train wreck of a tournament is over. I know its sad that other more serious complaints about the game drowned out the initial petition off the forums but that only tells me the guys effected by it were not interested enough to keep attention to the issue. Threadnaughts are your friends when used right and your worst enemy when used wrong. TL:TR You suck if melee exploit kill you CCP Don't give a **** Too late in the game to QQ CCP/UF tournament was **** Guys don't give a **** and are your enemy You need to HTFU yeah this is so the Dust forums.
I believe welcome to new Eden is the only thing missing.
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Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
1044
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Posted - 2013.09.29 04:54:00 -
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how CCP handles this problem will define what tournaments will end up like in the future.
if CCP alows this to go on unpunished, then well its open season on glitching in tournaments.
think invisable shotgunner rampage and tell me its a good idea.
this tournament will define CCPs stance on using glitches to gain an advantage.
it looks like open season. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9031
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Posted - 2013.09.29 05:00:00 -
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Aqua-Regia wrote:
Didn't bother understanding.
You suck if melee exploit kill you CCP Don't give a **** Too late in the game to QQ CCP/UF tournament was **** Guys don't give a **** and are your enemy You need to HTFU
yeah this is so the Dust forums.
also fixed.
Oh I had something real snarky but knowing you guys you'll be too asinine to understand the intent of message and would have use the message to attack with it so it be better off letting you guys wonder what the snarky response would have been. |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1344
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Posted - 2013.09.29 05:05:00 -
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Eh, if it wasn't the melee glitch I'm sure it would have been mass drivers, forge guns or grenades that caused you to lose 'unfairly'. |
XxWarlordxX97
Ancient Exiles
4646
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Posted - 2013.09.29 05:06:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Eh, if it wasn't the melee glitch I'm sure it would have been mass drivers, forge guns or grenades that caused you to lose 'unfairly'.
I just can't tell |
Dengru
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
113
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Posted - 2013.09.29 05:08:00 -
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I don't see how CPMs can ever matter after the terrible precedent IWS has set in regards to so many issues presented to him over the months. You might as well let troll alts be CPMs. Whether or not it's ok for Proto melee modules to be as strong as they are, it's demonstrably broken when paired with that glitch. It's obviously very different from nova knives and breach shotguns. |
Trial Mix
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2013.09.29 05:09:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Aqua-Regia wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:When most other games have point blank killers such as CoD's knifing, its not that bad of an exploit, I mean, you're an idiot to let the guy/gal get that close. Its not much different than a breach shotgun or a nova knifing in hands of a player that can get in that range. Melee aim assist is pretty broken (as in not working) and this exploit comes at the cost of almost all the user's stamina making them vulnerable to getting shot after the first victim.
Overall since CCP can't hotfix, prove, nor enforce it that easily without so much as a master cluster @#% of a mess I opt the do nothing approach until its fixed with a patch.
However I am just a CPM, I cannot decide for CCP, I have express my concerns about the exploit's use in the tournament having negative community impact to CCP, and honestly if you really felt it was game breaking you should have taken it to urgent fury as they're more capable of disqualifications and for matters like that Kane Spearow is your CPM man in trying to talk that mess out.
As a final word I doubt the individual using the exploit single handedly won the entire match and the individuals named so far I know would have torn your posterior a new one without the exploit at all with similar or just was bad weapons at their disposal.
You want a real exploit talk to me when people start flying around without jetpacks and infinite ammo exploits or guns firing railgun shots.
And Yes I know this is bait to make me, the CPM, or CCP bad but err on the side of caution there is your response basically telling you that you are just about too late, after the fact, and not enough stink was raised when you could have. If you want to deal with it, your fight just got that much harder, good luck but I got bigger fish to fry and I am glad for one that train wreck of a tournament is over. I know its sad that other more serious complaints about the game drowned out the initial petition off the forums but that only tells me the guys effected by it were not interested enough to keep attention to the issue. Threadnaughts are your friends when used right and your worst enemy when used wrong. TL:TR You suck if melee exploit kill you CCP Don't give a **** Too late in the game to QQ CCP/UF tournament was **** Guys don't give a **** and are your enemy You need to HTFU yeah this is so the Dust forums. Oh I had something real snarky but knowing you guys you'll be too asinine to understand the intent of message and would have use the message to attack with it so it be better off letting you guys wonder what the snarky response would have been.
No one cares about your snarky version. What's important is that you justified the glitch with an argument that's been dismantled authoritatively before namely the "if a guy wearing complex dampened and 9+ run speed can get to you from virtually any of the link spawns that are all around you in the city where Arirana devastated, you deserved to die" What a pathetic excuse.
You should push for them to be disqualified, with the proof here and players on their team admitting they know Arirana did indeed knowingly and intentionally glitch in the synergy match to exploit the glitch there's simply no reason besides apathy and more importantly incompetence.
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Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
1045
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Posted - 2013.09.29 05:11:00 -
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Dengru wrote:I don't see how CPMs can ever matter after the terrible precedent IWS has set in regards to so many issues presented to him over the months. You might as well let troll alts be CPMs. Whether or not it's ok for Proto melee modules to be as strong as they are, it's demonstrably broken when paired with that glitch. It's obviously very different from nova knives and breach shotguns.
CPM is nothing more then a forum tag.
it means nothing and IWS is the only one who even still plays.
at this point its just a "guy with an overinflated sence of importance" tag
no offence IWS... but can you get back to work at creating the system to elect CPM members so we can replace you and make the tag matter again?
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
1307
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Posted - 2013.09.29 05:12:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:Dengru wrote:I don't see how CPMs can ever matter after the terrible precedent IWS has set in regards to so many issues presented to him over the months. You might as well let troll alts be CPMs. Whether or not it's ok for Proto melee modules to be as strong as they are, it's demonstrably broken when paired with that glitch. It's obviously very different from nova knives and breach shotguns. CPM is nothing more then a forum tag. it means nothing and IWS is the only one who even still plays. at this point its just a "guy with an overinflated sence of importance" tag no offence IWS... but can you get back to work at creating the system to elect CPM members so we can replace you and make the tag matter again? Heinrich and Kain still play... |
Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
1045
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Posted - 2013.09.29 05:17:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:Dengru wrote:I don't see how CPMs can ever matter after the terrible precedent IWS has set in regards to so many issues presented to him over the months. You might as well let troll alts be CPMs. Whether or not it's ok for Proto melee modules to be as strong as they are, it's demonstrably broken when paired with that glitch. It's obviously very different from nova knives and breach shotguns. CPM is nothing more then a forum tag. it means nothing and IWS is the only one who even still plays. at this point its just a "guy with an overinflated sence of importance" tag no offence IWS... but can you get back to work at creating the system to elect CPM members so we can replace you and make the tag matter again? Heinrich and Kain still play...
im a farily active player, a bit of a forum warrior and pretty good at the game.
i couldnt tell you the names of the CPM other then IWS and novaknife...
that doesnt exactly inspire confidence in their engagement with the community.
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
1069
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Posted - 2013.09.29 05:23:00 -
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IWS just walked into a flame trap. |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
1307
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Posted - 2013.09.29 05:25:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:IWS just walked into a flame trap. Where have you been, Moody? I'll need to talk to you soon... |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
1307
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Posted - 2013.09.29 05:26:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:Dengru wrote:I don't see how CPMs can ever matter after the terrible precedent IWS has set in regards to so many issues presented to him over the months. You might as well let troll alts be CPMs. Whether or not it's ok for Proto melee modules to be as strong as they are, it's demonstrably broken when paired with that glitch. It's obviously very different from nova knives and breach shotguns. CPM is nothing more then a forum tag. it means nothing and IWS is the only one who even still plays. at this point its just a "guy with an overinflated sence of importance" tag no offence IWS... but can you get back to work at creating the system to elect CPM members so we can replace you and make the tag matter again? Heinrich and Kain still play... im a farily active player, a bit of a forum warrior and pretty good at the game. i couldnt tell you the names of the CPM other then IWS and novaknife... that doesnt exactly inspire confidence in their engagement with the community. Look in Drunk Night for Heinrich, He avoids the forums, more of an in-game person
Kain is hard to find dust side but I've seen him. |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
1091
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Posted - 2013.09.29 05:32:00 -
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Tournament? There are no Tournaments in dust. just like PC is a joke. In the FPS confines of a lobby FPS game, This game still has a way, and I mean way more issues than just it's much needed core mechanics.
Tho I fear it's too late.. No competitive FPS player will touch this game with a ten foot pole. why? So some nerd that migrated off of dota can kill him cause of more HP?, or poor coding glitch? (Roofs ccp. Not rocket science. common sense. The counter to that.. DS are paper made. Buff em. or make no roof access allowed)
*can't a sniper get em?*
You guys tell me.. can a sniper get em? right. anyway,
Arma, socom, mag, unreal, BF, KZ.. they all have one common thread that links them. CCP can't seem to find or they don't know what that is.
A lobby "FPS" That will always have the quotation marks. Maybe after many morphs it will cease to be called a lobby fps. But thats what you got now. A lobby "FPS". what a joke. |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2529
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Posted - 2013.09.29 05:34:00 -
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It seems cheap, but the "contest rules" seem mostly about how tea-bagging and racism are strictly forbidden as opposed to cheating. A "dispute" process also seems to involve contacting Urgent Fury, not CCP.
Out of curiousity, did you submit this to them to dispute the results? |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
1069
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Posted - 2013.09.29 05:35:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:IWS just walked into a flame trap. Where have you been, Moody? I'll need to talk to you soon... Real life happens. Ill be back in new Eden on Thursday or fri. |
BLACKSTAR AND TSUBAKI
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
63
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Posted - 2013.09.29 05:51:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Hey you owe rampage 500mill for that bet. Just saying..
yeah quit being butthurt an pay up foo |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1254
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Posted - 2013.09.29 05:57:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Lots of scrubs in here defending an exploit. I'm not saying you're not good players; just saying only scrubs defend the use of exploits.
lol yea you never played football before...throw some dirt on it. |
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