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Tebu Gan
CrimeWave Syndicate
110
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:51:00 -
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This is a known glitch, that is being "Fixed". That fact alone should have disqualified its use. It's like somebody using auto aim. It breaks it for everyone else. And CCP has admitted it is a broken mechanic that requires fixing.
Why wouldn't you disqualify someone for using it?
It clearly broke the favor to one side.
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1506
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:52:00 -
[362] - Quote
Master Jaraiya wrote:One does not need to be told when something is wrong, in order to know that the thing is wrong. Unless the person in question is a true sociopath with no concept of right or wrong.
On a quiet road I've brought my vehicle to an incomplete stop before... oh my god, I know it was wrong, but now my character has been besmirched.
What a pile of crap you guys are trying to put forth.
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DootDoot
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
104
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:54:00 -
[363] - Quote
Master Jaraiya wrote:DootDoot wrote:
Again prove your absolute ignorance in every post you make.
That video was made before CCP admitted anything about a "melee glitch"......... OMG no rules where broken.... just a bunch of hurt feelings and peoples make believe "Honor" in a video game.
How so? Did I not say: One does not need to be told when something is wrong, in order to know that the thing is wrong. Unless the person in question is a true sociopath with no concept of right or wrong. He knew what he was doing was exploiting a glitch. Your argument is moot.
It wasn't a glitch then... how could he be exploiting it?
CCP gave him module's and the ability to do it since closed beta?
and for your logic... Camping on roof's is wrong.... and all you guys should feel very bad!!!! very bad!!!
This is New Eden.... And the fact that you know so little about how this galaxy works... Is mind boggling... Specially when you pretend so much to know what you are talking about. |
Heimdallr69
TeamPlayers EoN.
900
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:59:00 -
[364] - Quote
Your all ignorant fools ccp allow me to mod this game and it will be totally fair okay? I was able to do it therefore its intended |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1506
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:00:00 -
[365] - Quote
Heimdallr69 wrote:Your all ignorant fools ccp allow me to mod this game and it will be totally fair okay? I was able to do it therefore its intended
Are you friends with the pope or something. I'm not sure you have enough moral high ground to stand on. Have you ever crossed the street against the lights? Maybe you drank under aged? Sneaked a peek down a woman's blouse?
You might be a sociopath... I'm afraid to listen to you. |
Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
218
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:00:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Console gamers are a bunch of softies I tell ya. You could have done it too ya know. Geez. Do some push ups... I can do it just fine but some people have morals, hard to believe right, I will never cheat or use an exploit I have a pair of balls This, you will never catch me glitching or cheating to win, it's not fun, it's not satisfying, and it takes no skill. You obviously dont know what the motivation is to glitch/cheat. The motivation is to get 19 lol worthy pages full off your QQ and then getting backed up by half of the community. This my friend is called "farming tears". |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
983
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:01:00 -
[367] - Quote
Arirana wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Arirana wrote: Let me tell you something, being honorable is a choice, and there are alot of different types of honor. Honor on a broken video game is non-existent, let me tell you that right now. However, there is honor here in the forums. Barely, but it is there. Like I said, how is something unhonorable "wrong"? This game isn't feudal europe it's a f*cking broken video game. What are the consequences of glitching in a video game? QQ and unfairness. And LOL at the idea that glitching in a video game makes me a dangerous sociopath IRL. Get real.
So, the fact there are no consequences to something justifies doing it even if it is wrong? So all the warlords in Africa are justified murdering their own people, because, well, there are no consequences. According to your own statements, the only thing preventing you from acting out your sociopathy in real life, is the fact that your actions would have consequences, which you aren't willing to face. So now you are a sociopath and a coward. Where is you brain? Did you ever have one? Quote: So, the fact there are no consequences to something justifies doing it even if it is wrong?
The direct result of the action in question is also considered a consequence. Warlords murdering their own people is a negative consequence. What I mean was, there are no severe/real consequences that I can be accountable for that make me possibly a sociopath. Only an ******* on the internet. Ohh I was an ******* on the internet. Sure it was wrong. But its such a small, insignificant wrong that you're blowing it out of proportion. So because a kid fries some ants with a magnifying glass he should get help?
Do you have a brain? How is any action a consequence of itself?
What is the direct consequence of a warlord murdering his own people? Is there anyone who will hold him accountable for his actions? Will any justice ever be had in this scenario? No.
Other than another warlord murdering the first, no, there is no consequence. Is this a consequence, yes, is it justice, no.
What are the consequences of you exploiting a glitch in the game? None, as of yet. One could then argue, "well he could have melee glitched me back", however, there is no justice in this. Instead of one wronged party, there would be two.
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1506
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:01:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:You obviously dont know what the motivation is to glitch/cheat. The motivation is to get 19 lol worthy pages full off your QQ and then getting backed up by half of the community. This my friend is called "farming tears".
Ka-ching! |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1351
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:02:00 -
[369] - Quote
Bright Cloud wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Console gamers are a bunch of softies I tell ya. You could have done it too ya know. Geez. Do some push ups... I can do it just fine but some people have morals, hard to believe right, I will never cheat or use an exploit I have a pair of balls This, you will never catch me glitching or cheating to win, it's not fun, it's not satisfying, and it takes no skill. You obviously dont know what the motivation is to glitch/cheat. The motivation is to get 19 lol worthy pages full off your QQ and then getting backed up by half of the community. This my friend is called "farming tears". The chance CCP sees the evidence and overturns the tournament to reverse the stream of tears is worth it.
The fact any portion of the community justifies glitching is just pathetic though. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
983
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:05:00 -
[370] - Quote
Crash Monster wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:One does not need to be told when something is wrong, in order to know that the thing is wrong. Unless the person in question is a true sociopath with no concept of right or wrong. On a quiet road I've brought my vehicle to an incomplete stop before... oh my god, I know it was wrong, but now my character has been besmirched. What a pile of crap you guys are trying to put forth. There is no such thing as a victimless crime under common law. If there is no injured party, there is no crime, and no besmirching of character.
Had you t-boned a family of four in their Prias, then, you would be in the wrong.
Is this to say that is is not a good idea to stop regardless if there is traffic or not, not at all. |
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DootDoot
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
104
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:05:00 -
[371] - Quote
Master Jaraiya wrote:Arirana wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Arirana wrote: Let me tell you something, being honorable is a choice, and there are alot of different types of honor. Honor on a broken video game is non-existent, let me tell you that right now. However, there is honor here in the forums. Barely, but it is there. Like I said, how is something unhonorable "wrong"? This game isn't feudal europe it's a f*cking broken video game. What are the consequences of glitching in a video game? QQ and unfairness. And LOL at the idea that glitching in a video game makes me a dangerous sociopath IRL. Get real.
So, the fact there are no consequences to something justifies doing it even if it is wrong? So all the warlords in Africa are justified murdering their own people, because, well, there are no consequences. According to your own statements, the only thing preventing you from acting out your sociopathy in real life, is the fact that your actions would have consequences, which you aren't willing to face. So now you are a sociopath and a coward. Where is you brain? Did you ever have one? Quote: So, the fact there are no consequences to something justifies doing it even if it is wrong?
The direct result of the action in question is also considered a consequence. Warlords murdering their own people is a negative consequence. What I mean was, there are no severe/real consequences that I can be accountable for that make me possibly a sociopath. Only an ******* on the internet. Ohh I was an ******* on the internet. Sure it was wrong. But its such a small, insignificant wrong that you're blowing it out of proportion. So because a kid fries some ants with a magnifying glass he should get help? Do you have a brain? How is any action a consequence of itself? What is the direct consequence of a warlord murdering his own people? Is there anyone who will hold him accountable for his actions? Will any justice ever be had in this scenario? No. Other than another warlord murdering the first, no, there is no consequence. Is this a consequence, yes, is it justice, no. What are the consequences of you exploiting a glitch in the game? None, as of yet. One could then argue, "well he could have melee glitched me back", however, there is no justice in this. Instead of one wronged party, there would be two.
What I got out of this is:
Jariya think's of Arirana with his melee'ing in the same regard's as a warlord inciting mass genocide.
Then think's people who break the law's or bend rules are Sociopath's.
Ok you have put all your credibility in the trash along with SyNergy.
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1506
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:07:00 -
[372] - Quote
Master Jaraiya wrote:There is no such thing as a victimless crime under common law. If there is no injured party, there is no crime, and no besmirching of character.
Had you t-boned a family of four in their Prias, then, you would be in the wrong.
Is this to say that is is not a good idea to stop regardless if there is traffic or not, not at all.
Oh, so in some cases I can use my own judgment and decide that a rule is not really something that I'll have to follow... well, imagine that.
Thanks for that! |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
983
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:08:00 -
[373] - Quote
DootDoot wrote:It wasn't a glitch then... how could he be exploiting it?
CCP gave him module's and the ability to do it since closed beta?
and for your logic... Camping on roof's is wrong.... and all you guys should feel very bad!!!! very bad!!!
This is New Eden.... And the fact that you know so little about how this galaxy works... Is mind boggling... Specially when you pretend so much to know what you are talking about. I love how you keep going back to the roof camping FG argument. Quote me where I stated it was morally wrong.
I did say it was cowardly, and broke the balance of the game, therefore should be mitigated, but never said it had any moral implications whatsoever. |
Heimdallr69
TeamPlayers EoN.
900
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:10:00 -
[374] - Quote
Crash Monster wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Your all ignorant fools ccp allow me to mod this game and it will be totally fair okay? I was able to do it therefore its intended Are you friends with the pope or something. I'm not sure you have enough moral high ground to stand on. Have you ever crossed the street against the lights? Maybe you drank under aged? Sneaked a peek down a woman's blouse? You might be a sociopath... I'm afraid to listen to you. I'm 19 and a virgin I've been single for three years..don't act like you know a thing about my morals |
Long Evity
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
333
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:10:00 -
[375] - Quote
Holy
Fudging
Shyt.
This is a lot of pages for some QQ. I've only read first page - then last 4, but whoaaa, the tears flowin' out of everyone in here would drown a fish.
Here's a fact: You guys tried to prove it was glitching to the tournament sponsors, whatever there name is, on there forums even. It failed. They contacted CCP and brought your complaint to light - nothing was done.
It means CCP gave the glitch the green light.
You guys should of gotten over this a long time ago. AE won against TP fairly in the last few rounds 'honorably.' If you feel like SyN or RND or anyone elses corp lost because of this glitch, then go find them in PC and prove it over and over. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
983
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:12:00 -
[376] - Quote
Crash Monster wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:There is no such thing as a victimless crime under common law. If there is no injured party, there is no crime, and no besmirching of character.
Had you t-boned a family of four in their Prias, then, you would be in the wrong.
Is this to say that is is not a good idea to stop regardless if there is traffic or not, not at all. Oh, so in some cases I can use my own judgment and decide that a rule is not really something that I'll have to follow... well, imagine that. Thanks for that! No, what I am saying is
The reason some rules exist in the first place, is because some jack ass didn't have the moral fortitude to conduct himself in an acceptable manner, causing injury to another. Then, a government had to step in and treat that person like a small child who doesn't know the difference between right and wrong, saying, Mr. John Doe, you cannot do this thing, it is morally wrong, if you do this thing again, we will have to punish you in such and such a manner, because you failed to act in a morally responsible manner. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1351
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:12:00 -
[377] - Quote
Long Evity wrote:Holy
Fudging
Shyt.
This is a lot of pages for some QQ. I've only read first page - then last 4, but whoaaa, the tears flowin' out of everyone in here would drown a fish.
Here's a fact: You guys tried to prove it was glitching to the tournament sponsors, whatever there name is, on there forums even. It failed. They contacted CCP and brought your complaint to light - nothing was done.
It means CCP gave the glitch the green light.
You guys should of gotten over this a long time ago. AE won against TP fairly in the last few rounds 'honorably.' If you feel like SyN or RND or anyone elses corp lost because of this glitch, then go find them in PC and prove it over and over. Not until CCP publically comes out and says what AE did is okay will I let this thread die.
Also needs investigation of using players registered after the close date of rosters, WTF was disqualified for this and AE will be too if true. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1506
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:14:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:I'm NN and a XXXXX I've been YYYYYY for ZZZZZ years..don't act like you know a thing about my morals
In the event you aren't just trolling me I certainly don't know anything about you... and I really don't need to. Sorry.
More generically, I won't pretend I know anything about your morals if you won't pretend to know anything about those of others.
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Long Evity
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
333
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:14:00 -
[379] - Quote
King Kobrah wrote:Long Evity wrote:Holy
Fudging
Shyt.
This is a lot of pages for some QQ. I've only read first page - then last 4, but whoaaa, the tears flowin' out of everyone in here would drown a fish.
Here's a fact: You guys tried to prove it was glitching to the tournament sponsors, whatever there name is, on there forums even. It failed. They contacted CCP and brought your complaint to light - nothing was done.
It means CCP gave the glitch the green light.
You guys should of gotten over this a long time ago. AE won against TP fairly in the last few rounds 'honorably.' If you feel like SyN or RND or anyone elses corp lost because of this glitch, then go find them in PC and prove it over and over. Not until CCP publically comes out and says what AE did is okay will I let this thread die. Also needs investigation of using players registered after the close date of rosters, WTF was disqualified for this and AE will be too if true. Did you ever find proof of it yourself? I know I asked earlier but I forgot page. |
Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
1083
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:16:00 -
[380] - Quote
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1347104#post1347104
the Glitch Ninjas will rise if CCP remains silent. |
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King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1351
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:16:00 -
[381] - Quote
Long Evity wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Long Evity wrote:Holy
Fudging
Shyt.
This is a lot of pages for some QQ. I've only read first page - then last 4, but whoaaa, the tears flowin' out of everyone in here would drown a fish.
Here's a fact: You guys tried to prove it was glitching to the tournament sponsors, whatever there name is, on there forums even. It failed. They contacted CCP and brought your complaint to light - nothing was done.
It means CCP gave the glitch the green light.
You guys should of gotten over this a long time ago. AE won against TP fairly in the last few rounds 'honorably.' If you feel like SyN or RND or anyone elses corp lost because of this glitch, then go find them in PC and prove it over and over. Not until CCP publically comes out and says what AE did is okay will I let this thread die. Also needs investigation of using players registered after the close date of rosters, WTF was disqualified for this and AE will be too if true. Did you ever find proof of it yourself? I know I asked earlier but I forgot page. Again, heard some rumblings by a corp leader that this happened, all it would take is a CCP investigation, and glitching or not, they're done. |
DootDoot
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
104
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:16:00 -
[382] - Quote
Master Jaraiya wrote:DootDoot wrote:It wasn't a glitch then... how could he be exploiting it?
CCP gave him module's and the ability to do it since closed beta?
and for your logic... Camping on roof's is wrong.... and all you guys should feel very bad!!!! very bad!!!
This is New Eden.... And the fact that you know so little about how this galaxy works... Is mind boggling... Specially when you pretend so much to know what you are talking about. I love how you keep going back to the roof camping FG argument. Quote me where I stated it was morally wrong. I did say it was cowardly, and broke the balance of the game, therefore should be mitigated, but never said it had any moral implications whatsoever.
Master Jaraiya wrote:As a Heavy who stays on the ground, I cannot condone tower camping with a FG. It is cowardly and it throws off the balance of the game.
Probably 30 post's similar about tower forge gunning. from you. |
Heimdallr69
TeamPlayers EoN.
900
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:16:00 -
[383] - Quote
Crash Monster wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:I'm NN and a XXXXX I've been YYYYYY for ZZZZZ years..don't act like you know a thing about my morals In the event you aren't just trolling me I certainly don't know anything about you... and I really don't need to. Sorry. More generically, I won't pretend I know anything about your morals if you won't pretend to know anything about those of others. This is something I won't troll people on I'm not ashamed of my morals |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1506
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:17:00 -
[384] - Quote
Master Jaraiya wrote:No, what I am saying is
The reason some rules exist in the first place, is because some jack ass didn't have the moral fortitude to conduct himself in an acceptable manner, causing injury to another. Then, a government had to step in and treat that person like a small child who doesn't know the difference between right and wrong, saying, Mr. John Doe, you cannot do this thing, it is morally wrong, if you do this thing again, we will have to punish you in such and such a manner, because you failed to act in a morally responsible manner.
Yes, you said some crimes are victimless... and hence aren't crimes. Thus, if I see a crime as victimless I'm free to ignore it even though I might be held responsible if I'm caught -- even though no damage is done. For example, I might get a ticket.
In game land, you know Dust is a game right, people are pretty much able to decide which rules they care about and which consequences they care about. Short of bullying someone online just about everything in the game is victimless because nothing that happens IN A GAME is generally considered to be of consequence to normal people. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9077
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:19:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:The Lion ElJonson wrote:Don't CCP monitor there own tournament? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ answer this one, IWS moar like IBS am i rite
Oh oh this is easy. CCP Logibro you talked about talking to earlier right? Why didn't you get him to do anything right? am I right? |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1506
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:19:00 -
[386] - Quote
Chances Ghost wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1347104#post1347104
the Glitch Ninjas will rise if CCP remains silent.
Blackmail... brought to you buy the Dust morals and ethics committee. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1353
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:20:00 -
[387] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:King Kobrah wrote:The Lion ElJonson wrote:Don't CCP monitor there own tournament? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ answer this one, IWS moar like IBS am i rite Oh oh this is easy. CCP Logibro you talked about earlier right? So either CCP saw glitching and did nothing, or they didn't monitor their own tournament. Pick your poison. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9077
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:21:00 -
[388] - Quote
Heimdallr69 wrote:Your all ignorant fools ccp allow me to mod this game and it will be totally fair okay? I was able to do it therefore its intended
Aye lets remember the modded AR controllers, how many bans went out for that one? |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
983
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:21:00 -
[389] - Quote
DootDoot wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:DootDoot wrote:It wasn't a glitch then... how could he be exploiting it?
CCP gave him module's and the ability to do it since closed beta?
and for your logic... Camping on roof's is wrong.... and all you guys should feel very bad!!!! very bad!!!
This is New Eden.... And the fact that you know so little about how this galaxy works... Is mind boggling... Specially when you pretend so much to know what you are talking about. I love how you keep going back to the roof camping FG argument. Quote me where I stated it was morally wrong. I did say it was cowardly, and broke the balance of the game, therefore should be mitigated, but never said it had any moral implications whatsoever. Master Jaraiya wrote:As a Heavy who stays on the ground, I cannot condone tower camping with a FG. It is cowardly and it throws off the balance of the game.
Probably 30 post's similar about tower forge gunning. from you. Sooooo...are you going to quote me where I said I it is morally reprehensible? What about where I said it was cheating? Will you please quote me on those?
No? |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1353
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:22:00 -
[390] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Your all ignorant fools ccp allow me to mod this game and it will be totally fair okay? I was able to do it therefore its intended Aye lets remember the modded AR controllers, how many bans went out for that one? That isn't cheating, you're using the parameters of the game...breaking the parameters of the game to melee faster than ever possible is two different things. |
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