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Crash Monster
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Posted - 2013.09.29 11:42:00 -
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Aqil Aegivan wrote:Iron Wolf Saber,
How do you represent the community when you spend so much time attacking it and acting like it has no valid criticisms of CCP?
I think he represents the community very well in terms of the way we generally operate in the forms. We always attack each other and make fun of gomers who QQ and so on.
As CPM he's a player first and a way for information to get from us to CCP.
To the OP... play some team sports. If the ref doesn't catch it on the field then you pretty much have to live with it. Perhaps if you are ten you still think the world is or can be fair. Now, everybody can form opinions about cheating so-and-so's and how they play the game but you just have to find a way to kick ass anyway.
Football, soccer, hockey, and so on. There's always tricks people can do that are below the level that will be called by a ref as its part of the game.
Grow up a little bit. |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 12:07:00 -
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Ascifi Ogrop wrote:e-sports
Hahahahaha. Whatever. |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 12:47:00 -
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Y'know, I find it funny (yes, I really do) that people are still QQing about the CPM.
Never have I seen such a ridiculous set of expectations put on people that can only relate what other people are doing with and talking about within the game.
Boo hoo, you didn't listen to *MY* idea... you suck.
Waaah, the game isn't moving fast enough... you suck.
QQ, my crying isn't getting me want I want... I want my mommy and... you suck.
What, CCP didn't take your advice... you suck.
Grrr, CPM member expressed an opinion... you suck and I'm going to troll you mercilessly, always looking for some way to get one up on any CPM member who dares express an opinion (ima gonna quote you on everything).
Ok, I know, not quite everyone falls into one of these groups but you have to admit the CPM has been both powerless and everyones favorite "whipping boy" for ages. |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 15:13:00 -
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Game breaking? You have to sneak up on someone in order to kill a single person by hand... now, while a glitch may be a glitch, I don't think you can call this game breaking by any QQing of the imagination. |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 15:39:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Reputation is everything.
People who QQ too much also get a reputation. Relax. It's over. Done. |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 17:30:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Crash Monster wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Reputation is everything. People who QQ too much also get a reputation. Relax. It's over. Done. Clearly it isn't.
Well, okay then, it's all over but the crying. |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 17:31:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:But if they don't, this black mark will forever stain their reputation.
I wonder if I should start contacting media outlets if we don't get a response soon? I hear they like that. Seemed to work well back during Incarna.
LOL. A little over the top.
Is your mommy a lawyer perhaps -- that's worked really well in these parts before! |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 18:53:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:all the things you mentioned are VERY different then the melee glitch.
its more compairable to the invisability glitch.
all of those things were INTENDED gameplay used in unintended ways, changed because it caused balance problems.
melee glitch is UNINTENDED gameplay, wich bypasses intended gameplay (melee cap)
If I'm not mistaken just about anything is fair game unless it is declared an exploit by CCP. To do that CCP has to have found out about the issue (hopefully reported by a responsible party) and then taken a deep enough look to decide how big a deal it is.
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Posted - 2013.09.29 19:51:00 -
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LOL @ a **** storm.
This my friend is a QQ storm. |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 19:56:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Crash Monster wrote:LOL @ a **** storm.
This my friend is a QQ storm. So far, 13 pages of community vs community vs the last remaining member of the CPM I think i've done a pretty good job. This is going to 20+ pages, mark my words.
It can go to 100 pages. The value of your QQ storm is not measured by the number of posts or pages. If the glitch had not been declared an exploit or otherwise out of bounds at the time of the tournament then it is simply a matter of differing views of fair play.
If that's all this is... then it's a QQ fest. Cry on my friend. Cry on. |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 20:11:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:/me calls CCP Shanghai? Oh you guys are off this weekend? sorry to bother.
What, wait, you don't call them regularly, at any hour, whenever someone QQ's insistently? I'm shocked. What on earth is the CPM for? |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 20:28:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:They are literally trying their hardest to try and ignore this thread, but i will not let it die.
LOL. Look, trolling aside, you are deluding yourself if you think they are all sitting around on the weekend reading forum posts and shunning this one.
You have gone off the deep end. Try working your way back towards shore. |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 20:37:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:I watched DEV posts go up on friday all around this thread, they literally ignored it.
Will we get a response tomorrow? Only god knows.
I don't think a sh*tfest is really going to entice the devs to participate in this thread. Hey, I could be wrong. Alternately, you could find your thread locked for ranting... and then the resulting QQfest might end up with some accounts banned.
Hehehehe. I think I'd better order 50lb bag of popcorn! |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 20:47:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:when you get 15 pages in one night, ccp will have no choice but to make some kind of statement.
this is playing out exactly how i wanted.
Wow, let me know what you are smoking.
As for the two sets of rules... this seems kind of confusing. Would not the tournament rules take precedence over a general set of standing rules?
QQ me a river -- I'm bottling it up for the winter -- once there is a market I'll have a pricey vintage. |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 20:54:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:This is a dangerous precedent though. Forums admissions cannot be reliable evidence worthy of ban. Think ultimate troll cept your target is a company and the trap is set with lawyers.
Makes it easy to gank doesn't it... get paid after the fact to admit wrongdoing... bam, DQ. Awesome!
Speaking of reading everything in the forums hasn't this come up in past? |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:05:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Old history no heroes, no friends, no martyrs.
There's always a few.
Puts the current nonsense in perspective, as a relatively minor event, as well. |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:09:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:It was the biggest event in the history of this game, relative to dust 514, it's pretty huge. relative to eve, not so much, but they're two different games.
I think the first dust awoxing was a bigger event than this. |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:14:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Crash Monster wrote:I think the first dust awoxing was a bigger event than this. That thread didn't get 15 pages overnight and wasn't an issue that's been festering for a month.
It's clear this is a big event to you... but that is a very localized thing.
The awoxing brought about a lot of discussion about corporations, changes and controls needed, and changes to the game.
Clearly a more significant event. This issue is about the matter of the outcome of a tournament. Insignificant to anybody that didn't play it and clearly not a big deal to the game itself.
Again, swim towards shore... you have gone way into the deep end here. |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:18:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Kinda like: "Your honor, I know what I did was wrong, but I didn't know there was a law against it! So by that logic, i'm not guilty!"
Yes, precisely, that's why I play games. I want them to be as much like the criminal justice system as possible... or I'll have no fun whatsoever.
Everyone understands the moral implications of using a glitch just like everyone understands the moral implications of awoxing -- and I'm not saying they are the same either.
What is making this thread go a bazillion pages is the amount of popcorn worthy ridiculous rageQQing that is going on.
For everyone not in the tournament it's a free show. |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:22:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:sorry you weren't relevant enough to participate in the tournament so you had no idea what was going on?
Dude, go ahead, be an elitist SOB as well as a cryhard. I'm politely telling you that you have gone off the deep end. Relatively minor glitches are not something that anybody over 15 (perhaps 12) is going to get overly excited about. |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:28:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Yet this thread is getting more posts per minute than announcement threads? yeah just a minor issue lol nothin 2 c here.
Half of them are mine buddy. Acting like an elitist bastard is no better ethically than using glitches, by the way. |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:38:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote: am I wrong in saying you never participated in the tournament, therefore you have no right to comment on the size and scope and impact of it?
Half of them aren't yours. I think this thread now has more posts than the announcements thread about the tournament.
No, I wasn't in the tournament. I was travelling at the time -- but I wouldn't have taken part anyway. However, whether you like it or not the issues we are talking about are not simply "the tournament" and just like you, I can voice my opinion if I want. Deal with it.
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:49:00 -
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Speaking of moral high ground.
I'm not sure threatening repercussions because you aren't getting what you want is very honorable... nor is attacking people who really aren't in a position to influence the outcome of your cause.
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:52:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:One does not need to be told when something is wrong, in order to know that the thing is wrong. Unless the person in question is a true sociopath with no concept of right or wrong.
On a quiet road I've brought my vehicle to an incomplete stop before... oh my god, I know it was wrong, but now my character has been besmirched.
What a pile of crap you guys are trying to put forth.
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:00:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Your all ignorant fools ccp allow me to mod this game and it will be totally fair okay? I was able to do it therefore its intended
Are you friends with the pope or something. I'm not sure you have enough moral high ground to stand on. Have you ever crossed the street against the lights? Maybe you drank under aged? Sneaked a peek down a woman's blouse?
You might be a sociopath... I'm afraid to listen to you. |
Crash Monster
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:01:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:You obviously dont know what the motivation is to glitch/cheat. The motivation is to get 19 lol worthy pages full off your QQ and then getting backed up by half of the community. This my friend is called "farming tears".
Ka-ching! |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:07:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:There is no such thing as a victimless crime under common law. If there is no injured party, there is no crime, and no besmirching of character.
Had you t-boned a family of four in their Prias, then, you would be in the wrong.
Is this to say that is is not a good idea to stop regardless if there is traffic or not, not at all.
Oh, so in some cases I can use my own judgment and decide that a rule is not really something that I'll have to follow... well, imagine that.
Thanks for that! |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:14:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:I'm NN and a XXXXX I've been YYYYYY for ZZZZZ years..don't act like you know a thing about my morals
In the event you aren't just trolling me I certainly don't know anything about you... and I really don't need to. Sorry.
More generically, I won't pretend I know anything about your morals if you won't pretend to know anything about those of others.
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Crash Monster
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:17:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:No, what I am saying is
The reason some rules exist in the first place, is because some jack ass didn't have the moral fortitude to conduct himself in an acceptable manner, causing injury to another. Then, a government had to step in and treat that person like a small child who doesn't know the difference between right and wrong, saying, Mr. John Doe, you cannot do this thing, it is morally wrong, if you do this thing again, we will have to punish you in such and such a manner, because you failed to act in a morally responsible manner.
Yes, you said some crimes are victimless... and hence aren't crimes. Thus, if I see a crime as victimless I'm free to ignore it even though I might be held responsible if I'm caught -- even though no damage is done. For example, I might get a ticket.
In game land, you know Dust is a game right, people are pretty much able to decide which rules they care about and which consequences they care about. Short of bullying someone online just about everything in the game is victimless because nothing that happens IN A GAME is generally considered to be of consequence to normal people. |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:19:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1347104#post1347104
the Glitch Ninjas will rise if CCP remains silent.
Blackmail... brought to you buy the Dust morals and ethics committee. |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:25:00 -
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I've got a nice little supposition for you.
How about the winners and losers get together and decide to gank CCP by faking a glitch event that cannot be proven or disproven by the evidence available. The alleged guilty party admits to use of a glitch while the alleged aggrieved party rants up and down creating loads of QQing noise with insults and "threats" towards CCP if they don't get what they want.
What if they award a shared first prize? What if CCP takes a harsh stand and then we get a reversal and everyone pats themselves on the back for getting CCP to do something without sufficient evidence?
Oops. CCP got ganked. Given this is New Eden I imagine that some serious proof has to be available before anybody will really take things serious -- regardless of the claims of either party. |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:36:00 -
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DootDoot wrote:IF EVE players could see this Post..... They would have shut down Dust Cry posts.... Talk of Ethic's and Moral's in New eden? ...... KILL IT NAOW BEFORE IT SPREAD's!!! CCP builds a game where they give you that choice .... Go be straight up evil and steal all the isk in the game!!! CCP will pat you on your back.
This thread is a crazy ride. I've collected enough tears to damn up a lake and provide power for my home away from combat missions for months. |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:39:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:No it's not. I can click a mouse button more than 700 times in 60 seconds, giving me equal ROF of a rapid fire controller.
it's not possible to melee as fast as ariana without exploiting the game mechanics to force 5 melees out in a half second.
LOL. Even if YOU can bang things that quickly with your hand it's not as if everyone can. Let's assume we are talking about someone who achieves a higher rate of fire than they could using their own innate ability. |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:44:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Some rules are in place because they are designed to prevent possible injury to a party. Violation of the rule doesn't necessarily constitute the commission of a crime.
Case in point: reckless Driving
This rule is put in place to prevent the occurrence of crimes such a vehicular manslaughter.
Breaking the rule of reckless Driving, doesn't constitute the commission of vehicular manslaughter. The rule is there, because someone, at some point in history, was driving recklessly, and caused personal injury or death to another. Because the driver didn't have the moral fortitude to think of the damage he might cause, he drove recklessly. The authorities then stepped in, seeing people could not govern themselves and stated that we may not drive recklessly. Now, because the rule is in place, there must be enforcement of the rule.
All because some ass hole couldn't conduct himself with some responsibility.
The rule had to be spelled out plainly for those who do not have the proper decency to conduct themselves with any concern for their fellow man.
I think you should learn a little bit more about legal matters before you go spouting off about this nonsense. Many rules are enforceable whether or not a crime is committed by breaking the rule itself or whether or not there may be any number of related crimes that might occur if the rule is broken.
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Crash Monster
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:46:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:edit: just because the melee glitch is easy to do doesn't mean you're still not exploiting a game breaking glitch.
It's not a "game breaking" glitch... it's a glitch. There is a huge difference. |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:48:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Not borderline trolling, he's trolling. He's been trolling in his CPM position since forever. There's times to troll and then there's moments where growing a pair and being honest will be appreciated.
For those that can read he's said plenty.
However, the real point for my post, I'd hate to be a CPM because mixing it up in the forums is a hell of a lot of fun.
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:56:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Video evidence and player testimony of cheating in the tournament is now crying in the eyes of a "community rep"
LMFAO.
I think the issue is that CCP will need time to look at your evidence and so forth... I think we've established that in the awoxing delight that is new eden an admission of using what many see as a relatively minor glitch is not going to mean much.
All your QQing tonight is doing nothing but filling our reservoirs.
Carry on with your winning Mr. Sheen. |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 23:03:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Naaaaaah no big deal someone is cheating in a tournament! HTFU GUYS!!! Just don't come on the forum and tell the honest truth...cuz you gonna get banned for that!
You won't get banned for telling the truth. One might get banned for appearing to be attempting to blackmail CCP though I don't know if they'd worry about that type of thing or not. One might get banned for personal attacks against those that don't really have much to do with the issue. One might have a thread tossed away for ranting or otherwise conducting themselves in a **** poor way.
On a more serious note while this is a game this is not something that is taken as seriously as say the Olympics. It's a shooter. Most people aren't going to take things here very seriously.
There may be a few folks around here that need to get out of the basement, see if the sun is still circling the earth, and stop drinking so much caffeine. |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 23:11:00 -
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If anyone has been aggravating anything it's probably been me... heh. |
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Posted - 2013.09.29 23:23:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:I'm sure if I come here everyday and post the facts about this game declining in player base and operating on a loss, and state for a fact that CCP is clueless about making a FPS, and clueless in how to balance anything that isn't a point and click PC game, I'll get banned.
If you want to be a big *sswad on a corporate site and get banned that is your decision. I certainly wouldn't see it as anything to get upset about.
If you wanted to discuss those issues and not be a douche in the process you could certainly choose to. In that case you probably would not get banned. The choice is yours.
Quote:Who's talking about Olympics? Simply wanting a fair a game is "too serious"??? Wanting to not play against people that cheat in a supposed tournament is wanting too much?
Perhaps the biggest group of cheaters around is the vets. The ones who happen to be able to emulate a modded controller with their spankatronic fast acting hands. What I'm going on about is the fact that the people trying to cry for ethics are themselves morally challenged.
Quote:My bad then. I guess all my years as an athlete has conditioned me to believe that competing should be fair.
Yeah, and Dust is an athletic endeavor. That's right!
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Crash Monster
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Posted - 2013.09.29 23:36:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:*asswad to who? CCP? If I'm stating facts and numbers, I don't see how that's considered being one.
If you go around insulting CCP, or CCP representatives, on their own forum then yeah. They certainly don't have to sit back and let that happen. However, as this is CCP, I don't know if they pay attention to your antics.
Quote:Cheaters and vets aren't one and the same. You don't have to be playing this game long to exploit something...lol...what fail logic.
I never suggested they were one and the same -- speaking of fail logic. However, most newer players have not been around enough to figure out exploits, buy modded controllers, or spin up the FOTM fit either. People who aren't vets often don't have the same "I made this game what it is" ridiculous mindset either. |
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Posted - 2013.09.30 00:07:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Oh? Telling someone the honest truth is "insulting" them? damn... what world is this you live in? I guess one where fairytales comes true.
If you want to make things up to argue against it go ahead... but don't pretend I'm actually saying the strawman statements you are ascribing to me.
Quote:Basically saying "the biggest group of cheaters are vets" means vets and cheaters are the same.
This one cracks me the **** up though... new players don't have modded controllers? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Stupid arguments again on both counts. How stupid do you have to be to think that the two statements are the same. Apparently as stupid as you. And yes, that is an insult, not "honest truth" as you might like to characterize it.
Quote:New players are more likely to go FoTM because they have no idea what's good and what works for them. Guess what they'll do after being stomped by the same thing over and over?
New players don't even know what FOTM means... unless you are referring to alts or something ridiculous like that.
Quote:I don't think a single vet would say "I made this game what is"... that's just insulting themselves.
You can feel that oozing off some of the posts. In particular, the disdain expressed towards everyone not a vet speaks volumes at times. |
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Posted - 2013.09.30 00:11:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:AE making alts and desperately trying to derail this thread, pretty sad..looking forward to ccp response tomorrow.
So am I... hard to imagine they will bend over for a bunch of cryhards. |
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Posted - 2013.09.30 09:22:00 -
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Nice to see this useless pudyanking thread has been carried on overnight. We did a lot of work to fill it with sh*t for your overnight enjoyment -- nice to see a return effort.
Cheers! |
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