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King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1281
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Posted - 2013.09.29 10:33:00 -
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I have irrefutable evidence AE glitched in the tournament, and I'm the unreasonable one?
how much is CCP paying you for damage control?
This is just pathetic. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1753
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Posted - 2013.09.29 10:35:00 -
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gustavo acosta wrote:ladwar wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Popcorn at the ready /pops up a chair and some popcorn good idea, anyone who takes part in a tournament should know every cheat and glitch and abuse the puck out of them because CCP put them in there for us to use even if they say don't. its CCP. CCP=that teacher that knows you shouldn't be doing something but turns a blind eye because they support your cause Glitchers:But Prof.CCP you said you wouldn't give me a retake on the final. Prof. CCP: I don't know what you're talking about. Glitchers:thanks CCP, thanks a lot Prof: I still don't know what you're talking about you get it! *holds hand out for fist bump* |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
1689
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Posted - 2013.09.29 10:35:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:1. Send in a ticket. The forums aren't a good place to get your issues dealt with 2. Send a ticket to UrgentFury 3. Put some more effort into it and you might actually get some where This has all been done. CCP is literally ignoring every effort to rectify this problem. Also it's been brought to my attention AE had a player register and play a day after sign-ups were closed. Tickets have been submitted but no action has been taken by CCP despite WTF being DQ'd for the exact same thing. Question: How many times did AE players use this glitch in the tournament. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9044
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Posted - 2013.09.29 10:36:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:I have irrefutable evidence AE glitched in the tournament, and I'm the unreasonable one?
how much is CCP paying you for damage control?
This is just pathetic.
Nothing.
You want to know something scarier?
I would have made the same exact posts even if I wasn't a CPM member.
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Ascifi Ogrop
No Free Pass
65
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Posted - 2013.09.29 10:37:00 -
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Sylvana Nightwind wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:1. Send in a ticket. The forums aren't a good place to get your issues dealt with 2. Send a ticket to UrgentFury 3. Put some more effort into it and you might actually get some where This has all been done. CCP is literally ignoring every effort to rectify this problem. Also it's been brought to my attention AE has a player register and play a day after sign-ups were closed. Tickets have been submitted but no action has been taken by CCP despite WTF being DQ'd for the exact same thing. Literally ignoring? You raised this issue today, do you really think they would react in less than 24h from raising an issue? Wait a bit. Take a deep breath. Look outside, word is beautiful! <3
The issue was raised a while ago, It was brought up on UF and Dust after the first glitch to place, it should go punished, just like WTF was, different circumstances but still the same result, gaining an unfair advantage. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2526
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Posted - 2013.09.29 10:39:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Medical Crash wrote:Let me play the tiniest violin in the world.... HA who cares, a LOSS is a LOSS. Hahahahaha............ The tears is this thread could power three countries. True story. Oh oh oh, let me add onto that. Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it! you are acting childish you do not deserve the title you hold you are trolln and that is against the forum rules you are a very bad example for the community Childish or not, the original poster is beyond reasoning with, helping, working with, conflict resolution, counter progressive, and doesn't want to help me help him. So kicking him down the stairs is more appropriate. He cannot simply answer how to resolve proving which of all alliances used the said exploit? I don't think he understands the larger community impact of reversing these sort of things after they're broadcasted to the world and beyond. I really don't honestly think he knows how CCP is very likely not going to pick a solution to his satisfaction, rather they will take the path of least community damage. Which in EON still gains nothing. It really really doesn't help that synergy quitting has nearly destroyed all clout they had which in turn disfavors anything synergy had going for them into almost nothing. While the departure is noted the influence beyond that is gone now. EON is already very unpopular with most other alliances as they hogged the only ball on the court and used a massive number of cheats during planetary conquest fights which has made them look very bad and got them labeled the new bad guys after Negative Feedback left. AE Won, nobody raised magikarps about it before they got to that point. UF is done with the tournament and probably no longer has any more obligations over the tournament. He cannot prove the other 5 prize winners let alone all the possible runner ups to replace those removed ever used the exploit. Setting bad example? If more people chastised bad posters I'd be more than happy. I'll join the growing number of pop corn eaters, this is getting to entertaining now. /popcorn's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKtljkBIZsw
This "tourney" didn't even merit a dev blog. No one cares who won outside of the tiniest fraction of these forums. While this whole ordeal is lolz-worthy, an argument grounded in creating credibility issues outside of the CCP gated community is plain silly. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1283
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Posted - 2013.09.29 10:40:00 -
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Ascifi Ogrop wrote:Sylvana Nightwind wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:1. Send in a ticket. The forums aren't a good place to get your issues dealt with 2. Send a ticket to UrgentFury 3. Put some more effort into it and you might actually get some where This has all been done. CCP is literally ignoring every effort to rectify this problem. Also it's been brought to my attention AE has a player register and play a day after sign-ups were closed. Tickets have been submitted but no action has been taken by CCP despite WTF being DQ'd for the exact same thing. Literally ignoring? You raised this issue today, do you really think they would react in less than 24h from raising an issue? Wait a bit. Take a deep breath. Look outside, word is beautiful! <3 The issue was raised a while ago, It was brought up on UF and Dust after the first glitch to place, it should go punished, just like WTF was, different circumstances but still the same result, gaining an unfair advantage. This 1000x, i made a post on UF forums and PM'd UF admins about this with the video and nothing was done. tickets and IRC contact was sent to CCP a month ago, and nothing was done.
I warned CCP logibro in the announcements thread a week ago there was going to be a problem if no action was taken
and now there's a problem. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9044
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Posted - 2013.09.29 10:44:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Ascifi Ogrop wrote:Sylvana Nightwind wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:1. Send in a ticket. The forums aren't a good place to get your issues dealt with 2. Send a ticket to UrgentFury 3. Put some more effort into it and you might actually get some where This has all been done. CCP is literally ignoring every effort to rectify this problem. Also it's been brought to my attention AE has a player register and play a day after sign-ups were closed. Tickets have been submitted but no action has been taken by CCP despite WTF being DQ'd for the exact same thing. Literally ignoring? You raised this issue today, do you really think they would react in less than 24h from raising an issue? Wait a bit. Take a deep breath. Look outside, word is beautiful! <3 The issue was raised a while ago, It was brought up on UF and Dust after the first glitch to place, it should go punished, just like WTF was, different circumstances but still the same result, gaining an unfair advantage. This 1000x, i made a post on UF forums and PM'd UF admins about this with the video and nothing was done. tickets and IRC contact was sent to CCP a month ago, and nothing was done. I warned CCP logibro in the announcements thread a week ago there was going to be a problem if no action was taken and now there's a problem.
Cool; have a solution?
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1753
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Posted - 2013.09.29 10:45:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:King Kobrah wrote:I have irrefutable evidence AE glitched in the tournament, and I'm the unreasonable one?
how much is CCP paying you for damage control?
This is just pathetic. Nothing. You want to know something scarier? I would have made the same exact posts even if I wasn't a CPM member. its scarier that you just had to bring up your white CPM tag. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
791
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Posted - 2013.09.29 10:50:00 -
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Sorry to say it king but, I didn't see or hear anything! Irrespective of that your health was low so, it probably only took 1 melee anyway! On points where you havd high health, the melee is accompanied by explosions!
In addition to this your video is of poor quality, and I it is hard to see who the culprit is. Likely CCP decided it wasn't enough evidence to move on! |
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2526
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Posted - 2013.09.29 10:52:00 -
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I'd rank this tourney to be about as serious as a middle school pokemon card duel during recess. Quick melee has been around for over a year. Until there is a blue tag that explicitly calls it cheating HTFU. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
791
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Posted - 2013.09.29 10:54:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:I'd rank this tourney to be about as serious as a middle school pokemon card duel during recess. Quick melee has been around for over a year. Until there is a blue tag that explicitly calls it cheating HTFU.
Its been taken out in .5 so, I think it's sorted! |
soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
394
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Posted - 2013.09.29 10:56:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:I'd rank this tourney to be about as serious as a middle school pokemon card duel during recess. Quick melee has been around for over a year. Until there is a blue tag that explicitly calls it cheating HTFU.
You can get physically hurt during a pokemon card duel. Paper cuts make you bleed.
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Doc Noah
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
587
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Posted - 2013.09.29 10:56:00 -
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From what I can tell, CCP doesnt do anything about glitchers and exploiters because they feel its their fault they allowed something like that slip by their development team. As someone has said, this sets a bad example on future tournaments where glitching and exploiting is allowed because CCP has to take the fault. Next bug/glitch/exploit that gets introduced before a tournament will get abused to hell. If thats how CCP feels their tournaments should run, I'm glad I'm not part of it. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9045
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Posted - 2013.09.29 10:57:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Sorry to say it king but, I didn't see or hear anything! Irrespective of that your health was low so, it probably only took 1 melee anyway!
In addition to this your video is of poor quality, and I it is hard to see who the culprit is. Likely CCP decided it wasn't enough evidence to move on!
I tried reading the name and I think I can come up 30 different spellings. Damage amount was unreadable at times it looked like two digits and others 3 digits. 2 of your deaths would have been exactly the same had the glitch not existed. Every death you had from the perpetrator was accompanied by the sound of a Nova Knife and not a melee smash. In almost all scenarios you and your team let her get to 0 distance. We know the current damage meters are bugged. Video was also edited. |
Karl Koekwaus
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2013.09.29 10:59:00 -
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[email protected]
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Internal_affairs |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9046
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Posted - 2013.09.29 11:00:00 -
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Doc Noah wrote:From what I can tell, CCP doesnt do anything about glitchers and exploiters because they feel its their fault they allowed something like that slip by their development team. As someone has said, this sets a bad example on future tournaments where glitching and exploiting is allowed because CCP has to take the fault. Next bug/glitch/exploit that gets introduced before a tournament will get abused to hell. If thats how CCP feels their tournaments should run, I'm glad I'm not part of it.
Most of the time the GMs declare the exploit and Eve online's API easily allows for verification of actions. If oh say happened in middle of a tournament they would likely declare it at the end of the day and make it banned from the day forth in the tournament though this has not happened yet.
However Dust 514's system is not a robust, while kills with items are tracked, and things destroyed are tracked I highly doubt the xyz death dots for heat maps have names attached. |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Svartur Bjorn Neo Terra Empire
373
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Posted - 2013.09.29 11:01:00 -
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unless there were players on most if not all teams using the same exploit. might have been hard for ccp to react if it meant kicking out all the teams in the tournament.
we all know by now if there is an exploit or something op everyone that can, will exploit it even your own team and friends. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9046
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Posted - 2013.09.29 11:02:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:ladwar wrote:if your not cheating your not playing the way you should. *cough* auto aim assists* cough*
i blame IWS for this one. Yup out for the dog house for me again. You should be thankful for CPM Kane though he was the first to raise the issue well before the tournament even started. woah scapegoat, your not going to push off blame on kane. jenna would be much better to push some blame on
but she's reviewing hotels and the sorts. |
Roner General
Ancient Exiles
16
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Posted - 2013.09.29 11:04:00 -
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You can actually tell he did melee you, but your health was so low it only took ONE melee so the rest of the hits which were in fact melee glitch didn't hit so therefore your **** is invalid. AHAHAHAHAHAH SWAGGGGGGGGGG
Dumbed down just for you: he didn't kill you with the second one nor the third it was the first that killed you which wasn't part of the combo melee glitch |
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Ascifi Ogrop
No Free Pass
67
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Posted - 2013.09.29 11:11:00 -
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Roner General wrote:You can actually tell he did melee you, but your health was so low it only took ONE melee so the rest of the hits which were in fact melee glitch didn't hit so therefore your **** is invalid. AHAHAHAHAHAH SWAGGGGGGGGGG Dumbed down just for you: he didn't kill you with the second one nor the third it was the first that killed you which wasn't part of the combo melee glitch
That's like saying someone had a wallhack on, saw your hiding spot and just before killing you turned it off....
Shame you didn't delete it before my quote |
Asirius Medaius
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
526
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Posted - 2013.09.29 11:11:00 -
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gustavo acosta wrote:ladwar wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Popcorn at the ready /pops up a chair and some popcorn good idea, anyone who takes part in a tournament should know every cheat and glitch and abuse the puck out of them because CCP put them in there for us to use even if they say don't. its CCP. CCP=that teacher that knows you shouldn't be doing something but turns a blind eye because they support your cause Glitchers:But Prof.CCP you said you wouldn't give me a retake on the final. Prof. CCP: I don't know what you're talking about. Glitchers:thanks CCP, thanks a lot Prof: I still don't know what you're talking about
+1 for making me laugh harder than I should have |
Aqil Aegivan
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
211
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Posted - 2013.09.29 11:15:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Counter attacking actually. What's the new term people been saying, 'passive aggressive'. Traps are only sprung when stepped on. Most of these Massholes don't get it, they never will get it so the best I can do is burn them one at a time to make them start thinking a bit more because simple one shots taunts don't work on me. I have been counter trolling on forums for nearly 20 years.
Your ineffectual fumbling with the forum trolls is not what I'm talking about when I say you're attacking the community (more on that in a minute).
The facts are that a glitch was used during the tournament, brought to CCP's attention (you yourself have testified to this), and they did nothing about it. Your attempts to hold the community responsible for CCP's inaction is unbecoming of someone in the office you hold.
Additional, I fail to see how enabling trolls falls under the heading of "counter trolling". By engaging such people you ensure that should someone attempt rational discourse you can only either acknowledge points they have made and provide an opening for further attack by trolls or stonewall that point and kill discourse. How after "20 years" have you not learned the finer points of not feeding the trolls? How can you believe you are "burning them" when your criticisms are unsubstantiated suppositions like "you would have quit."? Criticisms which I found especially rich given your attempts to justify the absence of your fellow council members. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1656
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Posted - 2013.09.29 11:15:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Sorry to say it king but, I didn't see or hear anything! Irrespective of that your health was low so, it probably only took 1 melee anyway! On points where you havd high health, the melee is accompanied by explosions!
In addition to this your video is of poor quality, and I it is hard to see who the culprit is. Likely CCP decided it wasn't enough evidence to move on!
They cheated and they have been cheating for months now.
The server logs are full of Arirana's glitched melee kills and all of the time stamps in which they took place.
If CCP was truly interested in the truth of the matter, it has long been at their disposal.
I believe this issue is something they would rather sweep under the rug however, judging by IWS's fanboyish counter-offensive. |
Asirius Medaius
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
526
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Posted - 2013.09.29 11:19:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Medical Crash wrote:Let me play the tiniest violin in the world.... HA who cares, a LOSS is a LOSS. Hahahahaha............ The tears is this thread could power three countries. True story. Oh oh oh, let me add onto that. Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it! you are acting childish you do not deserve the title you hold you are trolln and that is against the forum rules you are a very bad example for the community Childish or not, the original poster is beyond reasoning with, helping, working with, conflict resolution, counter progressive, and doesn't want to help me help him. So kicking him down the stairs is more appropriate. He cannot simply answer how to resolve proving which of all alliances used the said exploit? I don't think he understands the larger community impact of reversing these sort of things after they're broadcasted to the world and beyond. I really don't honestly think he knows how CCP is very likely not going to pick a solution to his satisfaction, rather they will take the path of least community damage. Which in EON still gains nothing. It really really doesn't help that synergy quitting has nearly destroyed all clout they had which in turn disfavors anything synergy had going for them into almost nothing. While the departure is noted the influence beyond that is gone now. EON is already very unpopular with most other alliances as they hogged the only ball on the court and used a massive number of cheats during planetary conquest fights which has made them look very bad and got them labeled the new bad guys after Negative Feedback left. AE Won, nobody raised magikarps about it before they got to that point. UF is done with the tournament and probably no longer has any more obligations over the tournament. He cannot prove the other 5 prize winners let alone all the possible runner ups to replace those removed ever used the exploit. Setting bad example? If more people chastised bad posters I'd be more than happy. I'll join the growing number of pop corn eaters, this is getting to entertaining now. /popcorn's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKtljkBIZsw
This, this right here. I think you covered a good synopsis of the politics of this tournament, and also the perception of many people's opinion of EON (you nailed it pretty well).
Nice posts IWS; I normally don't agree with your commenting techniques, but this impressed me.
P.S.: F*ck off EON |
Doc Noah
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
587
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Posted - 2013.09.29 11:20:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:unless there were players on most if not all teams using the same exploit. might have been hard for ccp to react if it meant kicking out all the teams in the tournament.
we all know by now if there is an exploit or something op everyone that can, will exploit it even your own team and friends.
Thats only the case because CCP choose to do nothing and say nothing. If CCP made a firm statement about it's abuse or even went as far as to give red flags/DQ, I doubt people would have used it on each other to stay on equal grounds. Nothing was done about it, so people got frustrated and abused it themselves.
Using an OP weapon isnt the same as the melee glitch. The melee glitch is in the grey zone of rules. Technically its not a good thing but at the same thing is not a bad thing as say glitching into rocks or using hacks. Which is why I believe CCP chose not to punish for it and decided it was a fault of the game and not the players. |
Mortedeamor
Internal Rebellion
297
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Posted - 2013.09.29 11:22:00 -
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no one cares shouldn't have been competing ina tourney in such a terribad game |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2527
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Posted - 2013.09.29 11:24:00 -
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For a second there I read CCP and Nothing and thought Eino had returned...
Wishful thinking. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1607
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Posted - 2013.09.29 11:39:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:This is video footage of me being glitched multiple times by merc Ariana, of Ancient Exiles, during a tournament match (Synergy vs. AE) (recorded on a potato, watch in HD) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZzknb2SiOgas you can clearly see and hear, the melee glitch was exploited and clearly changed the outcome of the match. All of this during CCP's marquee "PRIME LEAGUE" tournament. Members of my corp sent this video in to urgent fury, contacted devs in IRC, and sent in support tickets. Did CCP remove AE from the tourney? No!Did CCP dock AE points for using a game-breaking glitch in the tourney? No!Did CCP so much as contact their members to give them a slap on the wrist, or say "stop it?" NO!How in good conscience can the developers can allow a team who has been observed, and recorded CHEATING in an OFFICIAL THREE MONTH LONG TOURNAMENT to not only continue to participate, but win the tourney overall? In this thread you will probably see a lot of AE damage control, saying things like "LOL WE STOPPED" and "IT DIDNT MATTER LEL" when Ariana recorded nearly 100+ kills in the 3 matches against us, and none of that reasoning changes the fact that they were recorded using a game breaking glitch in the tournament. The worst part of all of this, is because CCP never took any action, more deserving corps never got their shot in the final rounds. Why won't CCP do anything? Do they not care anymore? Have they given up on their game? Will devs continue to turn a blind eye to this thread and my pleas for help in the announcements section, support tickets and IRC? Furthermore, what would the community do? Ban their corp from the tourney for condoning and knowingly exploiting a game breaking glitch? dock them points? Kick them out of the semifinals and replace them with a more deserving team? Also, how do you feel about CCP turning a blind eye to this entire fiasco, ignoring people's cries for help they're losing games because the other team is CHEATING? Stay tuned.
U mad bro? Lol
The majority of the community may agree that it's a glitch. But without confirmation from CCP, are we supposed to bow to every butthurt whim? The community is also generally against many of the mechanics of the redline. Are we to kick corps if they gain the upper hand in a match thanks to a railgun sniper?
You can be mad at CCP for not communicating with us. And you can be mad that you lost to a practice that is "frowned upon".
But CCP has the final say on what is a "cheat". Without that final word, and only if that word was given before said cheating, your accusations get filed under "Butthurtitis".
HTFU |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1489
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Posted - 2013.09.29 11:42:00 -
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Aqil Aegivan wrote:Iron Wolf Saber,
How do you represent the community when you spend so much time attacking it and acting like it has no valid criticisms of CCP?
I think he represents the community very well in terms of the way we generally operate in the forms. We always attack each other and make fun of gomers who QQ and so on.
As CPM he's a player first and a way for information to get from us to CCP.
To the OP... play some team sports. If the ref doesn't catch it on the field then you pretty much have to live with it. Perhaps if you are ten you still think the world is or can be fair. Now, everybody can form opinions about cheating so-and-so's and how they play the game but you just have to find a way to kick ass anyway.
Football, soccer, hockey, and so on. There's always tricks people can do that are below the level that will be called by a ref as its part of the game.
Grow up a little bit. |
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