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Arirana
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Posted - 2013.09.29 18:59:00 -
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- Glitching was not against the Dust 514 Prime League Tournament Official Event Rules
- Being a CCP/UF tourney, CCP and UF reserved full rights making and enforcing rules. It is not considered cheating unless CCP or UF declared it so simply for it being used in a tournament that did not prohibit glitching. You can call it cheating outside of the tournament, but by the rules put out by CCP and UF glitching was fair game.
- AE never received warning from CCP or UF on top of the absence of a rule against it, however constant QQ from opponents pushed us to decide that it was best that we discontinue its use for their sake.
- Though you claim that you sent in dispute's about the glitch in tournament matches to CCP and UF, you never provided proof of that. All that the rest of the community can see, is you posting evidence WEEKS after the original match the evidence derived from took place. Sending in private dispute requests is not a sure fire way of getting the dispute process in motion, if you wanted something to be done about it you should have posted SUFFICIENT evidence (because frankly you are lacking it in this post right now) well before it was already too late for anything to be done about it. You cannot just sit back with your evidence, wait for a team to put in weeks of effort, THEN come forth with it to lay all of it to waste.
On a side note:
Kobra you are the sorest loser AND winner I have ever seen, you absolutely lack respect for other players, and this post just reinforced that judgement of you. Anything you have to say about me glitching, I will gladly accept and won't refute it. I'm talking about a different kind of integrity here. The kind that if you had it, you would have kept true to a bet you made and not blamed your breaking of it on something entirely irrelevant that was known long before the bet was ever made. ******* loser. |
Arirana
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Posted - 2013.09.29 19:55:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Arirana wrote:
- Glitching was not against the Dust 514 Prime League Tournament Official Event Rules
- Being a CCP/UF tourney, CCP and UF reserved full rights making and enforcing rules. It is not considered cheating unless CCP or UF declared it so simply for it being used in a tournament that did not prohibit glitching. You can call it cheating outside of the tournament, but by the rules put out by CCP and UF glitching was fair game.
- AE never received warning from CCP or UF on top of the absence of a rule against it, however constant QQ from opponents pushed us to decide that it was best that we discontinue its use for their sake.
- Though you claim that you sent in dispute's about the glitch in tournament matches to CCP and UF, you never provided proof of that. All that the rest of the community can see, is you posting evidence WEEKS after the original match the evidence derived from took place. Sending in private dispute requests is not a sure fire way of getting the dispute process in motion, if you wanted something to be done about it you should have posted SUFFICIENT evidence (because frankly you are lacking it in this post right now) well before it was already too late for anything to be done about it. You cannot just sit back with your evidence, wait for a team to put in weeks of effort, THEN come forth with it to lay all of it to waste.
On a side note: Kobra you are the sorest loser AND winner I have ever seen, you absolutely lack respect for other players, and this post just reinforced that judgement of you. Anything you have to say about me glitching, I will gladly accept and won't refute it. I'm talking about a different kind of integrity here. The kind that if you had it, you would have kept true to a bet you made and not blamed your breaking of it on something entirely irrelevant that was known long before the bet was ever made. ******* loser. OH LOOK, THE GLITCHER HIMSELF COMES TO DEFEND HIS ACTIONS QUICK IWS, MAKE MORE PRO-GLITCH POSTS SO ARIANA FEELS MORE AT HOME! You think you can sit here and pass judgment on me, when YOU HAD TO EXPLOIT GAME BREAKING GLITCHES TO BE RELEVANT AND WIN GAMES? HAHAHAHAHAHA LMFAO I never had any intention of paying out that bet, and I would not have been paid if you had lost (you shouldn't have even participated, so in my mind, the bet is null and void from the get go. Think of it as my way of getting back at you glitching piece of ****) That's not what my thread is about- **********A MONTH AGO I POSTED THE VIDEO ON UF FORUMS, SENT IN TICKETS, AND CONTACTED DEVS, NOTHING WAS DONE ABOUT A GAME BREAKING GLITCH IN TOURNEY, SO IM MAKING GOOD ON A PROMISE TO CCP LOGIBRO THAT A ****STORM WILL START IN GENERAL CHAT IF NO ACTION IS TAKEN************ why do you think a dev won't post here saying glitching was okay?
*sigh* of course you ignored most of my post and saw only what you wanted to see. Like I said, glitching was never against the tourney rules in the first place.
Even if you wanted something to be done about it, it never would have because CCP f*cked up. They neglected to make it against the rules, and yeah I think it's pretty irresponsible of them to not even attempt to give us a warning and dock points from us. We should have been given warning, a loss of the round and deducted points. Not DQ'd without warning; it's pretty ignorant of you to think that's what should happen. Bottom line, it would not have changed the outcome even if we took a warning and a loss of the round. We would have just slaughtered you guys again in the semi finals, or TP would have. |
Arirana
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Posted - 2013.09.29 19:58:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Define weaker?
They hit harder, move faster having better scan detection and better dampening to mask themselves. There has to be a balance to that.
A lack of HP is that balance.
Arirana has no such balance. He can see everybody due to active scanner, has high HP, moves ridiculously fast and has can kill multiple targets in a row with ease.
Even the stealthiest nova knifer has to pick his fights. He can't drop everybody instantly like a glitcher can. Dude aris melee suit has a little over 300 shield and 100 armor... That's 400 total hp. LOL my scout has more hp than that. Don't tell me he is uncounter able because AE Faced ari in a pc like a week ago and couldn't get into melee range on us in the biomass map. the glitch is only able to be effective if you let it be. it's just like nova knifing except for the fct that when you kill someone it leaves you even more vulnerable. once the glitch is done, all you have to do is look for him and spray since you know he's coming for you anyway. and TIP if you bunny hop out of his way, he can't touch you. Dumbfucks. HOW DOES ANY OF THAT CHANGE THE FACT YOU USED A GAME BREAKING GLITCH IN AN OFFICIAL CCP TOURNAMENT MATCH?
How does the fact that we used it change anything at all? Last time I'm gonna say it, wasn't against the rules. |
Arirana
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Posted - 2013.09.29 20:07:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:"Using Glitches and exploits in game Urgent Fury does not allow the use of exploits or glitches in game. If a known glitch exists giving an unfair advantage to a team is used, they will be given one warning and lose the round they were playing. If it is used again, the clan will be removed from the event." YOU GLITCHED MULTIPLE ROUNDS IN TOURNEY = DISQUALIFICATION READ THE SITE BEFORE YOU POST INFORMATION THAT WILL DISCREDIT YOUR ARGUMENT, LMFAO http://www.urgentfury.com/competitions.php?do=rules
Funny how two sets of rules are inconsistent. We read those rules AFTER the matches, thinking (and sensibly so) that there would be only ONE list of rules. Furthermore, we were never given a warning. Despite using it in multiple rounds, we were never warned between those matches by you guys that there was a second list of rules, only that glitching was against the rules. We assumed you were trolling and using meta to manipulate us into stopping our use of something that wasn't against the rules. We deserve the warning for our ignorance of the second list. |
Arirana
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Posted - 2013.09.29 20:15:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:
Those are the global rules for ALL GAMES you stupid ****, it wasn't noted in the prime league rules BECAUSE IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING
LOL GLITCHER LOGIK
You think someone telling you to STOP BREAKING THE GAME IN AN OFFICIAL MATCH is me trying to meta you? wow, just ******* wow.
lol yeaah, I know they are the global rules. Or at least, now I do. Never participated in a UF tourney before and wasn't aware there was a list of rules OTHER than the event rules ( how many times do I have to say it?).
"It goes without saying"?! Not stating rules defeats the purpose of having the rules in the first place. Hur hur, you are subject to rules we did not attempt to inform you of before you broke them, hur hur. |
Arirana
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Posted - 2013.09.29 20:34:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Arirana wrote:King Kobrah wrote:
Those are the global rules for ALL GAMES you stupid ****, it wasn't noted in the prime league rules BECAUSE IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING
LOL GLITCHER LOGIK
You think someone telling you to STOP BREAKING THE GAME IN AN OFFICIAL MATCH is me trying to meta you? wow, just ******* wow.
lol yeaah, I know they are the global rules. Or at least, now I do. Never participated in a UF tourney before and wasn't aware there was a list of rules OTHER than the event rules ( how many times do I have to say it?). "It goes without saying"?! Not stating rules defeats the purpose of having the rules in the first place. Hur hur, you are subject to rules we did not attempt to inform you of before you broke them, hur hur. You didn't read the rules? GEE, WHO'S FAULT IS THAT? You've never participated in a UF tourney before? Not a surprise, you glitch to stay relevant, and they don't tolerate glitching. YES, NO CHEATING ALLOWED GOES WITHOUT SAYING IN A TOURNAMENT, LOL...........
Your argument is unbelievably illogical. There are two lists of rules. I read the list of rules related to the event, was never told of a second list. I can forgive the fact that there were TWO lists of rules, but they were different. List 1. List 2 (event rules that I saw). One list has a rule about glitching, one list does not. Even the rule about glitching mandates that I am to receive a warning, and if I break the rule again, then DQ is in order. DQ doesn't come first just because I wasn't warned by CCP before I glitched multiple times. To top it off, I was never warned. Worst that could happen at this point according to UF rules is we receive a loss for the round we glitched in. That does not change the outcome of the tourney however. |
Arirana
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Posted - 2013.09.29 20:41:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Arirana wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Arirana wrote:King Kobrah wrote:
Those are the global rules for ALL GAMES you stupid ****, it wasn't noted in the prime league rules BECAUSE IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING
LOL GLITCHER LOGIK
You think someone telling you to STOP BREAKING THE GAME IN AN OFFICIAL MATCH is me trying to meta you? wow, just ******* wow.
lol yeaah, I know they are the global rules. Or at least, now I do. Never participated in a UF tourney before and wasn't aware there was a list of rules OTHER than the event rules ( how many times do I have to say it?). "It goes without saying"?! Not stating rules defeats the purpose of having the rules in the first place. Hur hur, you are subject to rules we did not attempt to inform you of before you broke them, hur hur. You didn't read the rules? GEE, WHO'S FAULT IS THAT? You've never participated in a UF tourney before? Not a surprise, you glitch to stay relevant, and they don't tolerate glitching. YES, NO CHEATING ALLOWED GOES WITHOUT SAYING IN A TOURNAMENT, LOL........... Your argument is unbelievably illogical. There are two lists of rules. I read the list of rules related to the event, was never told of a second list. I can forgive the fact that there were TWO lists of rules, but they were different. List 1. List 2 (event rules that I saw). One list has a rule about glitching, one list does not. Even the rule about glitching mandates that I am to receive a warning, and if I break the rule again, then DQ is in order. DQ doesn't come first just because I wasn't warned by CCP before I glitched multiple times. To top it off, I was never warned. Worst that could happen at this point according to UF rules is we receive a loss for the round we glitched in. That does not change the outcome of the tourney however. One list is GLOBAL RULES FOR ALL GAMES One list is for the individual prime league tourney IF THE GLOBAL RULES SAY NO CHEATING ALLOWED, THEN GUESS WHAT? THIS IS A CRAZY LEAP OF LOGIC BUT BARE WITH ME.................... CHEATING ISNT ALLOWED edit: you glitched multiple rounds, each infraction after the first would have gotten you banned, warning or not. just wait for ccp response tomorrow 
Please link me to where in the rules it says that if I glitched multiple rounds before receiving a warning I get banned. I'd like to read it. Infact, quote it here. And I'm sorry but unlike you I don't feel like waiting around for a dev post that will never come.
-Ari out |
Arirana
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:16:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Arirana wrote:
Please link me to where in the rules it says that if I glitched multiple rounds before receiving a warning I get banned. I'd like to read it. Infact, quote it here. And I'm sorry but unlike you I don't feel like waiting around for a dev post that will never come.
-Ari out
You didn't need to read the rules or receive a warning from anybody to know that you were cheating. You knew, plain and simple. Would you go into a bank, point a gun at a teller, and demand money simply because there was not a rule posted on the door of the bank and nobody advised you that it was against the rules? No, because you already know it's wrong! People like you are the reason governments find an excuse to pry into everyone's private lives, to make sure nobody has their rights violated. Get a sense of responsibility for yourself, and your fellow man, for pete's sake!
What do you want me to do say sorry? I'm not sorry for using the glitch. Its not my fault it wasn't against the event rules or that I never received a warning. What makes it wrong? With the the numerous broken mechanics, unbalanced weapon system, the game itself is wrong. Stop comparing a broken video game to real life. I know glitching isn't fun for the other side or is it in anyway honorable. I never said I didn't use the exploit, and will never say sorry. HTFU QQ moar |
Arirana
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:21:00 -
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DootDoot wrote:King kobra getting melee'd http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVD7qYTANiYThe QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ Personally when I let someone get that close... i think to myself.... "hey, i ****** up and let him get that close" When King kobra get's melee'd it is.... EVERYONE ELSES FAULT BUT HIS... The game is broken!!!! even though you could sprint-melee-sprint-melee since replication? Long before open beta. Btw AE should name the planet "Melee-Sprint-Melee-Sprint" Just to remind Kobrah why he fail's at games with long range weaponry.
I suggested that planet name in corp chat a few days ago xD glad to see there are other like minded people out there |
Arirana
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:35:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Arirana wrote:
What makes it wrong?
Arirana wrote:I know glitching isn't fun for the other side or is it in anyway honorable. You answered this question for yourself. Like I said, you knew it was wrong, you knew it was cheating, but you did it anyway. This is called antisocial behavior, for those who are not aware. The fact that you have absolutely no remorse for doing something you knew was wrong tells me that you may be a sociopath. Maybe you should go seek some help, before you hurt someone, or yourself. As far as not comparing a game to real life, your morals are your morals, whether practiced in reality, or virtual reality. Your outlook on life directly effects everything you do in life, whether you want to admit that or not is immaterial.
Let me tell you something, being honorable is a choice, and there are alot of different types of honor. Honor on a broken video game is non-existent, let me tell you that right now. However, there is honor here in the forums. Barely, but it is there. Like I said, how is something unhonorable "wrong"? This game isn't feudal europe it's a f*cking broken video game. What are the consequences of glitching in a video game? QQ and unfairness. And LOL at the idea that glitching in a video game makes me a dangerous sociopath IRL. Get real. |
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Arirana
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:50:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Arirana wrote:
Let me tell you something, being honorable is a choice, and there are alot of different types of honor. Honor on a broken video game is non-existent, let me tell you that right now. However, there is honor here in the forums. Barely, but it is there. Like I said, how is something unhonorable "wrong"? This game isn't feudal europe it's a f*cking broken video game. What are the consequences of glitching in a video game? QQ and unfairness. And LOL at the idea that glitching in a video game makes me a dangerous sociopath IRL. Get real.
So, the fact there are no consequences to something justifies doing it even if it is wrong? So all the warlords in Africa are justified murdering their own people, because, well, there are no consequences.  According to your own statements, the only thing preventing you from acting out your sociopathy in real life, is the fact that your actions would have consequences, which you aren't willing to face. So now you are a sociopath and a coward.
Where is you brain? Did you ever have one?
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So, the fact there are no consequences to something justifies doing it even if it is wrong?
The direct result of the action in question is also considered a consequence. Warlords murdering their own people is a negative consequence. What I mean was, there are no severe/real consequences that I can be accountable for that make me possibly a sociopath. Only an ******* on the internet. Ohh I was an ******* on the internet. Sure it was wrong. But its such a small, insignificant wrong that you're blowing it out of proportion. So because a kid fries some ants with a magnifying glass he should get help? |
Arirana
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:25:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Your all ignorant fools ccp allow me to mod this game and it will be totally fair okay? I was able to do it therefore its intended Aye lets remember the modded AR controllers, how many bans went out for that one? That isn't cheating, you're using the parameters of the game...breaking the parameters of the game to melee faster than ever possible is two different things.
Technically a unintended mechanic is still within the parameters of the game. Your logic is flawed. |
Arirana
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:35:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Arirana wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Your all ignorant fools ccp allow me to mod this game and it will be totally fair okay? I was able to do it therefore its intended Aye lets remember the modded AR controllers, how many bans went out for that one? That isn't cheating, you're using the parameters of the game...breaking the parameters of the game to melee faster than ever possible is two different things. Technically a unintended mechanic is still within the parameters of the game. Your logic is flawed. No, you're breaking the normal parameters of the game. To make it equivalent, you'd have to find a glitch to increase the base ROF of the rifle. Melee glitching and rapid fire controllers are two COMPLETELY different things.
I suppose you're right. The RoF of Semi automatic weapons are limited by how fast you can physically tap a button, unless you mod your controller and set it to shoot as fast as the game allows. Modded controllers increase your physical ability, while melee glitching increases the in game ability. Doing that is every bit cheating as melee glitching, difference is theres no way to tell if someone can actually shoot that fast, or they're using a modded controller. |
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