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DootDoot Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 98	Posted - 2013.09.29 14:21:00 - [1] - Quote King Kobrah wrote: low genius wrote: you play within the confines of the game, not the confines of your peers. since it's about to be fixed, why don't you write about this in your blog? No I'm pretty sure CCP has a clear stance against cheating in an official tourney- imagine if this happened in one of the yearly EVE tournaments? I guarantee something would be done. You haven't been watching the alliance tournament's have you? one tournament an entire group meta gamed to take the first second and third place prizes and controlled the entire outcome of the tournament... From spying the other team strategies... to knowing their shiptypes to almost everything. EVERY FPS game has melee set to 1-2 hit's your dead.... You know why?! YOU SCREWED UP AND LET HIM GET CLOSE. in DUST however everyone has a million excuses to why their "skill" isn't good enough.... If you let a guy get that close to you... and your team mates watched him run right upto another team mate and punch him in the head.. The blame fall's anywhere but the guy that did the work to get close and own you. Anyway that tournament seems to have gone through 1.3 to 1.4 patch... did CCP change it at all? Seems your **** talking because 1 person won the WHOLE tournament!!! Haterade this early in the morning?
DootDoot Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 98	Posted - 2013.09.29 14:33:00 - [2] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: Y'know, I find it funny (yes, I really do) that people are still QQing about the CPM. Never have I seen such a ridiculous set of expectations put on people that can only relate what other people are doing with and talking about within the game. Boo hoo, you didn't listen to MY idea... you suck. Waaah, the game isn't moving fast enough... you suck. QQ, my crying isn't getting me want I want... I want my mommy and... you suck. What, CCP didn't take your advice... you suck. Grrr, CPM member expressed an opinion... you suck and I'm going to troll you mercilessly, always looking for some way to get one up on any CPM member who dares express an opinion (ima gonna quote you on everything). Ok, I know, not quite everyone falls into one of these groups but you have to admit the CPM has been both powerless and everyones favorite "whipping boy" for ages. I think most of it stemmed from everyone asking each other in game on mic's "Have you ever seen that IWS guy in a match in DUST since beta? once?" answer 99% of the time "no I've never even seen him play DUST" Come to Forums "IWS KNOWS ALL ABOUT DUST AND EVE AND IS THE mASTA" Then opens his mouth about the two.
DootDoot Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 99	Posted - 2013.09.29 15:02:00 - [3] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Game breaking exploits such as this have been punished in EVE for years. And UF's posted rules clearly stated that the use of exploits is prohibited and grounds for disqualification. CCP sponsored the tournament, so this makes it their responsibility to uphold as well. . please give an example of CCP punishing people for it. Everyone else would recall CCP praising and rewarding people for finding and exploiting bug's and glitches in EVE. POS bowling for a big example?
DootDoot Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 99	Posted - 2013.09.29 15:06:00 - [4] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: DootDoot wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Game breaking exploits such as this have been punished in EVE for years. And UF's posted rules clearly stated that the use of exploits is prohibited and grounds for disqualification. CCP sponsored the tournament, so this makes it their responsibility to uphold as well. I would love for a GM or Dev to come out and clearly state, publicly, with a straight face, that the answer to solving an issue such as this is to get on the forums and throw a tantrum rather than follow the rules and use the petition system. Because rules were followed here, and now IWS has the audacity to reprimand us for following them. please give an example of CCP punishing people for it. When Aperture Harmonics abused WH mechanics they were fined hundreds of billions of ISK by CCP in retaliation. They had a glitch to generate ISK.... thats nothing PVP related... or tourny.. Economies are the lifeblood of a MMO.... ofcourse this was dealt with immediately.
DootDoot Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 99	Posted - 2013.09.29 15:14:00 - [5] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Incorrect, they used the infinite gun to kill hundreds (possibly thousands) of players in PVP who attempted to venture into that wormhole. http://massively.joystiq.com/2010/09/17/new-eve-exploit-gives-wormhole-corp-incredible-advantage/ CCP didnt punish them for killing rooks and king's they punished them for running the sleeper sites without being there... at impossible speed's.... farming and blowing up the market with flooded values. They where caught with infinity gun LONG before rooks and king's did their invasion...
DootDoot Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 99	Posted - 2013.09.29 15:23:00 - [6] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Crash Monster wrote: Game breaking? You have to sneak up on someone in order to kill a single person by hand... now, while a glitch may be a glitch, I don't think you can call this game breaking by any QQing of the imagination. Arirana doesn't sneak up on you, though. He hides behind corners with an active scanner and when he detects you, he runs at you in a heavily shielded speed suit. It doesn't matter if you know he is coming or not, your bullets will not drop him before he reaches you unless your entire team is firing at him. And if you have to devote that many resources to one person, then yes. The game is effectively broken. You cannot compare that to the knife in COD, because COD movement is not that fast and COD HP is not that high. The knife is easily dealt with there. The melee glitch ignores the high HP of the opponent, abuses the high HP of the glitcher himself and takes full advantage of the speed mods on the suit. It is broken and has no legitimate counter. Really? have you guy's seen this series? I wish Arirana made a spy and had it on your comm's and made a video almost worth it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVD7qYTANiY This is the real reason they don't like melee, Comes from the CoD attitude that melee is stupid.
DootDoot Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 99	Posted - 2013.09.29 15:33:00 - [7] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: On the contrary, melee is cool. I dig nova knifes, cause you have to be fragile as hell to pull off the high damage hits. The glitch has no check or balance attached however. It's broken. You only dig it if they are weaker then you? its like this in every FPS game... but DUST needs to be different!!! cuz CoD still allows it :o
DootDoot Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 99	Posted - 2013.09.29 15:44:00 - [8] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I dig nova knifes, cause you have to be fragile as hell to pull off the high damage hits. You can back pedal all you like. he is no weaker or stronger then the average proto assault... He's on even footing. just with melee instead of a gun. Sounds like he made a really good Fit and invested skill points into it. AND THEN uses tactic's like a scanner and that's just way to unfair. You are a picture of those CoD people complainaing that they got 1 shot melee'd.... Welcome to First person shooters...
DootDoot Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 99	Posted - 2013.09.29 15:56:00 - [9] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: DootDoot wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I dig nova knifes, cause you have to be fragile as hell to pull off the high damage hits. You can back pedal all you like. he is no weaker or stronger then the average proto assault... He's on even footing. just with melee instead of a gun. Sounds like he made a really good Fit and invested skill points into it. AND THEN uses tactic's like a scanner and that's just way to unfair. You are a picture of those CoD people complainaing that they got 1 shot melee'd.... Welcome to First person shooters... You are a picture of every forum troll too scared to post on his main, as well as a clown with an agenda. You also probably shouldn't be using the line "welcome to first person shooters" on me, as I am the type who would money match IRL and send you home wearing a trash bag. The agenda is very simple to point you QQ'ers out who clog up the forum's with tears about things not beeing fair. its wasting the game and everyone's time. Remember the FAMAS? you guys are clown's. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXXwL0QmYB8 <-- welcome to first person shooters..... because you obviously don;t get it.
DootDoot Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 100	Posted - 2013.09.29 20:28:00 - [10] - Quote King Kobrah wrote: Arirana wrote: King Kobrah wrote: Arirana wrote: Glitching was not against the Dust 514 Prime League Tournament Official Event Rules Being a CCP/UF tourney, CCP and UF reserved full rights making and enforcing rules. It is not considered cheating unless CCP or UF declared it so simply for it being used in a tournament that did not prohibit glitching. You can call it cheating outside of the tournament, but by the rules put out by CCP and UF glitching was fair game. AE never received warning from CCP or UF on top of the absence of a rule against it, however constant QQ from opponents pushed us to decide that it was best that we discontinue its use for their sake. Though you claim that you sent in dispute's about the glitch in tournament matches to CCP and UF, you never provided proof of that. All that the rest of the community can see, is you posting evidence WEEKS after the original match the evidence derived from took place. Sending in private dispute requests is not a sure fire way of getting the dispute process in motion, if you wanted something to be done about it you should have posted SUFFICIENT evidence (because frankly you are lacking it in this post right now) well before it was already too late for anything to be done about it. You cannot just sit back with your evidence, wait for a team to put in weeks of effort, THEN come forth with it to lay all of it to waste. On a side note: Kobra you are the sorest loser AND winner I have ever seen, you absolutely lack respect for other players, and this post just reinforced that judgement of you. Anything you have to say about me glitching, I will gladly accept and won't refute it. I'm talking about a different kind of integrity here. The kind that if you had it, you would have kept true to a bet you made and not blamed your breaking of it on something entirely irrelevant that was known long before the bet was ever made. ***** loser. OH LOOK, THE GLITCHER HIMSELF COMES TO DEFEND HIS ACTIONS QUICK IWS, MAKE MORE PRO-GLITCH POSTS SO ARIANA FEELS MORE AT HOME! You think you can sit here and pass judgment on me, when YOU HAD TO EXPLOIT GAME BREAKING GLITCHES TO BE RELEVANT AND WIN GAMES? HAHAHAHAHAHA LMFAO I never had any intention of paying out that bet, and I would not have been paid if you had lost (you shouldn't have even participated, so in my mind, the bet is null and void from the get go. Think of it as my way of getting back at you glitching piece of ) That's not what my thread is about- ******A MONTH AGO I POSTED THE VIDEO ON UF FORUMS, SENT IN TICKETS, AND CONTACTED DEVS, NOTHING WAS DONE ABOUT A GAME BREAKING GLITCH IN TOURNEY, SO IM MAKING GOOD ON A PROMISE TO CCP LOGIBRO THAT A STORM WILL START IN GENERAL CHAT IF NO ACTION IS TAKEN********** why do you think a dev won't post here saying glitching was okay? sigh of course you ignored most of my post and saw only what you wanted to see. Like I said, glitching was never against the tourney rules in the first place. Even if you wanted something to be done about it, it never would have because CCP f*cked up. They neglected to make it against the rules, and yeah I think it's pretty irresponsible of them to not even attempt to give us a warning and dock points from us. We should have been given warning, a loss of the round and deducted points. Not DQ'd without warning; it's pretty ignorant of you to think that's what should happen. Bottom line, it would not have changed the outcome even if we took a warning and a loss of the round. We would have just slaughtered you guys again in the semi finals, or TP would have. UF have very clear rules that using cheats and exploits during their tournaments are against the rules, as confirmed by UF admins in the thread on their forums about you being glitching trash. How you can honestly sit here and pretend cheating isn't against the rules is just pathetic. So is you resorting to glitching in a tournament. You're just a pretty pathetic person overall, aren't you? WTF was kicked out of tourney for breaking a rule, you should be too, it's very simple logic. Also word has it AE registered and used a player AFTER THE SIGN UP DATE ENDED. WTF WAS LITERALLY JUST DQ'D FOR THAT WHY ARE YOU STILL IN THE TOURNAMENT? LOL and you wanted to join EoN....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH Anyone want to hear what Kobra sounds like on other games he get's melee'd on? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVD7qYTANiY

DootDoot Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 102	Posted - 2013.09.29 21:12:00 - [11] - Quote King kobra getting melee'd http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVD7qYTANiY The QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ Personally when I let someone get that close... i think to myself.... "hey, i ****** up and let him get that close" When King kobra get's melee'd it is.... EVERYONE ELSES FAULT BUT HIS... The game is broken!!!! even though you could sprint-melee-sprint-melee since replication? Long before open beta. Btw AE should name the planet "Melee-Sprint-Melee-Sprint" Just to remind Kobrah why he fail's at games with long range weaponry.
DootDoot Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 103	Posted - 2013.09.29 21:22:00 - [12] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Master Jaraiya wrote: Arirana wrote: Please link me to where in the rules it says that if I glitched multiple rounds before receiving a warning I get banned. I'd like to read it. Infact, quote it here. And I'm sorry but unlike you I don't feel like waiting around for a dev post that will never come. -Ari out You didn't need to read the rules or receive a warning from anybody to know that you were cheating. You knew, plain and simple. Would you go into a bank, point a gun at a teller, and demand money simply because there was not a rule posted on the door of the bank and nobody advised you that it was against the rules? No, because you already know it's wrong! People like you are the reason governments find an excuse to pry into everyone's private lives, to make sure nobody has their rights violated. Get a sense of responsibility for yourself, and your fellow man, for pete's sake! Kinda like: "Your honor, I know what I did was wrong, but I didn't know there was a law against it! So by that logic, i'm not guilty!" That is kinda how the world works.... I know all our parent's shelter us at a young age.... But the World isn't all rainbow's and sunshine.... The law's and rules are about the only thing you can punish someone for.... And if you can skirt them.... then all the power to you... That is how almost everything on this planet operates.... There isn't some mysterious Honor that appears in the EVE universe where players will only do the good and what YOU feel is fair thing. Same with IWS, For whatever side issues I have.... He's fully allowed to meta game and enjoy his role as CPM... that is the New Eden universe we signed up for. Full of pirates... and merchant's... and bounty hunters... and people fighting for the good and the bad... That is a sandbox... Want to play?
DootDoot Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 103	Posted - 2013.09.29 21:34:00 - [13] - Quote This is an exploit..... and what happened? http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/06/22/eve-players-abuse-faction-warfare-to-produce-trillions-of-isk/ Children and their little bug's and exploit's and their small world inside their parent's house where everything is fair and just. Thats one potentially costing over 175 thousand US dollar's... your little "i got melee' is pathetic.
DootDoot Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 103	Posted - 2013.09.29 21:38:00 - [14] - Quote Master Jaraiya wrote: Arirana wrote: What makes it wrong? Arirana wrote: I know glitching isn't fun for the other side or is it in anyway honorable. You answered this question for yourself. Like I said, you knew it was wrong, you knew it was cheating, but you did it anyway. This is called antisocial behavior, for those who are not aware. The fact that you have absolutely no remorse for doing something you knew was wrong tells me that you may be a sociopath. Maybe you should go seek some help, before you hurt someone, or yourself. As far as not comparing a game to real life, your morals are your morals, whether practiced in reality, or virtual reality. Your outlook on life directly effects everything you do in life, whether you want to admit that or not is immaterial. You need to quit this game you are so confused..... From your two weeks of defending forge gun's and calling them perfect... the only problem is you have to ban roof top camping... To now your post about how he play's his video games reflect's his life? your just a plague on these forum's. and game.
DootDoot Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 104	Posted - 2013.09.29 21:43:00 - [15] - Quote Master Jaraiya wrote: DootDoot wrote: That is kinda how the world works.... I know all our parent's shelter us at a young age.... But the World isn't all rainbow's and sunshine.... The law's and rules are about the only thing you can punish someone for.... And if you can skirt them.... then all the power to you... That is how almost everything on this planet operates.... Ignorance of a law is not a defense in any justice system anywhere in the world. Nobody said the world is all rainbows and sunshine, quite the opposite. It is full of sociopaths who do things with no remorse, which they know society in general do not morally accept, because they were not raised to know the difference between right and wrong. Again prove your absolute ignorance in every post you make. That video was made before CCP admitted anything about a "melee glitch"......... OMG no rules where broken.... just a bunch of hurt feelings and peoples make believe "Honor" in a video game. DootDoot wrote: This is an exploit..... and what happened? http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/06/22/eve-players-abuse-faction-warfare-to-produce-trillions-of-isk/ Children and their little bug's and exploit's and their small world inside their parent's house where everything is fair and just. Thats one potentially costing over 175 thousand US dollar's... your little "i got melee' is pathetic.
DootDoot Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 104	Posted - 2013.09.29 21:54:00 - [16] - Quote Master Jaraiya wrote: DootDoot wrote: Again prove your absolute ignorance in every post you make. That video was made before CCP admitted anything about a "melee glitch"......... OMG no rules where broken.... just a bunch of hurt feelings and peoples make believe "Honor" in a video game. How so? Did I not say: One does not need to be told when something is wrong, in order to know that the thing is wrong. Unless the person in question is a true sociopath with no concept of right or wrong. He knew what he was doing was exploiting a glitch. Your argument is moot. It wasn't a glitch then... how could he be exploiting it? CCP gave him module's and the ability to do it since closed beta? and for your logic... Camping on roof's is wrong.... and all you guys should feel very bad!!!! very bad!!! This is New Eden.... And the fact that you know so little about how this galaxy works... Is mind boggling... Specially when you pretend so much to know what you are talking about.
DootDoot Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 104	Posted - 2013.09.29 22:05:00 - [17] - Quote Master Jaraiya wrote: Arirana wrote: Master Jaraiya wrote: Arirana wrote: Let me tell you something, being honorable is a choice, and there are alot of different types of honor. Honor on a broken video game is non-existent, let me tell you that right now. However, there is honor here in the forums. Barely, but it is there. Like I said, how is something unhonorable "wrong"? This game isn't feudal europe it's a fcking broken video game. What are the consequences of glitching in a video game? QQ and unfairness. And LOL at the idea that glitching in a video game makes me a dangerous sociopath IRL. Get real. So, the fact there are no consequences to something justifies doing it even if it is wrong? So all the warlords in Africa are justified murdering their own people, because, well, there are no consequences. According to your own statements, the only thing preventing you from acting out your sociopathy in real life, is the fact that your actions would have consequences, which you aren't willing to face. So now you are a sociopath and a coward. Where is you brain? Did you ever have one? Quote:* So, the fact there are no consequences to something justifies doing it even if it is wrong? The direct result of the action in question is also considered a consequence. Warlords murdering their own people is a negative consequence. What I mean was, there are no severe/real consequences that I can be accountable for that make me possibly a sociopath. Only an ***** on the internet. Ohh I was an ***** on the internet. Sure it was wrong. But its such a small, insignificant wrong that you're blowing it out of proportion. So because a kid fries some ants with a magnifying glass he should get help? Do you have a brain? How is any action a consequence of itself? What is the direct consequence of a warlord murdering his own people? Is there anyone who will hold him accountable for his actions? Will any justice ever be had in this scenario? No. Other than another warlord murdering the first, no, there is no consequence. Is this a consequence, yes, is it justice, no. What are the consequences of you exploiting a glitch in the game? None, as of yet. One could then argue, "well he could have melee glitched me back", however, there is no justice in this. Instead of one wronged party, there would be two. What I got out of this is: Jariya think's of Arirana with his melee'ing in the same regard's as a warlord inciting mass genocide. Then think's people who break the law's or bend rules are Sociopath's. Ok you have put all your credibility in the trash along with SyNergy.
DootDoot Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 104	Posted - 2013.09.29 22:16:00 - [18] - Quote Master Jaraiya wrote: DootDoot wrote: It wasn't a glitch then... how could he be exploiting it? CCP gave him module's and the ability to do it since closed beta? and for your logic... Camping on roof's is wrong.... and all you guys should feel very bad!!!! very bad!!! This is New Eden.... And the fact that you know so little about how this galaxy works... Is mind boggling... Specially when you pretend so much to know what you are talking about. I love how you keep going back to the roof camping FG argument. Quote me where I stated it was morally wrong. I did say it was cowardly, and broke the balance of the game, therefore should be mitigated, but never said it had any moral implications whatsoever. Master Jaraiya wrote: As a Heavy who stays on the ground, I cannot condone tower camping with a FG. It is cowardly and it throws off the balance of the game. Probably 30 post's similar about tower forge gunning. from you.
DootDoot Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 104	Posted - 2013.09.29 22:22:00 - [19] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: Chances Ghost wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1347104#post1347104 the Glitch Ninjas will rise if CCP remains silent. Blackmail... brought to you buy the Dust morals and ethics committee. IF EVE players could see this Post..... They would have shut down Dust Cry posts.... Talk of Ethic's and Moral's in New eden? ...... KILL IT NAOW BEFORE IT SPREAD's!!! CCP builds a game where they give you that choice .... Go be straight up evil and steal all the isk in the game!!! CCP will pat you on your back.
DootDoot Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 104	Posted - 2013.09.29 23:46:00 - [20] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Crash Monster wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Naaaaaah no big deal someone is cheating in a tournament! HTFU GUYS!!! Just don't come on the forum and tell the honest truth...cuz you gonna get banned for that! You won't get banned for telling the truth. One might get banned for appearing to be attempting to blackmail CCP though I don't know if they'd worry about that type of thing or not. One might get banned for personal attacks against those that don't really have much to do with the issue. One might have a thread tossed away for ranting or otherwise conducting themselves in a **** poor way. On a more serious note while this is a game this is not something that is taken as seriously as say the Olympics. It's a shooter. Most people aren't going to take things here very seriously. There may be a few folks around here that need to get out of the basement, see if the sun is still circling the earth, and stop drinking so much caffeine. I'm sure if I come here everyday and post the facts about this game declining in player base and operating on a loss, and state for a fact that CCP is clueless about making a FPS, and clueless in how to balance anything that isn't a point and click PC game, I'll get banned. Who's talking about Olympics? Simply wanting a fair a game is "too serious"??? Wanting to not play against people that cheat in a supposed tournament is wanting too much? I guess so right, because you say so. My bad then. I guess all my years as an athlete has conditioned me to believe that competing should be fair. SyNergy just Cries all day about the way life is... Grow up ,move out of your parent's house, and learn the world... then come back to a video game and treat it as your LIFE AND DEATH.... Synergy = QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ

DootDoot Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 110	Posted - 2013.09.30 05:05:00 - [21] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Master Jaraiya wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: DootDoot wrote: SyNergy just Cries all day about the way life is... Grow up ,move out of your parent's house, and learn the world... then come back to a video game and treat it as your LIFE AND DEATH.... Synergy = QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ aaaw another alt talking ** on the forums...wish i can say you're the first IKR! It's one thing to support cheating. It's a whole other can of worms when you hide behind an alt because you don't want people to know you support cheating. Talk about needing to grow up! Alts like DootDoot don't know what being an adult and being responsible is about! Don't take alts the slightest bit serious. i guess he expected me to blow up and go on a chest thumping rant or something... I don't know... I just laugh when I see one talking ** Alt of who? The sad thing is you don't know me or how long I've been playing... Pretty much anyone has more validity on these forum's then you... You play even less then IWS and every post you make is more QQ.... That's all the post's that Synergy make... Is just post's about crying... and how this game is doomed.. and how you play other games like we don't.... OH NOES HE GOT MELEE'd and Synergy lost because of one guy!!!! pathetic Video Of Synergy getting Melee'd in other games http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVD7qYTANiY