...Fails to read past relevant post referenced from earlier in the thread...I love ignorant people here. I'm so happy to learn and promote discussion till this happens....

The core you have to cook, the md is a contact grenade, huge difference. And if you read earlier we had this discussion and I even played around with putting all nades to 2 max and only supply depots can resupply them so it stops being grenade spam 514. If that happened and MD's only had 2-3 flux's for the match...then it'd be an area denial weapon, and only forge's would need a slight nerf vs infantry...potentially reducing splash to reward the accurate ones and prevent splash kills from nowhere.

I'm not fishing through 9 pages to find a story about why you failed to use any of the many options at your disposal to counter what was obviously a threat.

You allowed someone with an area of effect weapon to bombard a point. You had options available, but chose none of them.

The FG problem was created by AR users who demanded that the HMG have the range of a baseball and the initial accuracy of an epileptic performing brain surgery with a hammer. You forced them onto the heights, now you want them back on the ground to outrange and massacre.

This MD QQ is pretty much the same. You seemingly want to be able to run in a tightly packed squad, focusing your fire on solo enemies with impunity. Because splash weapons counter this horde tactic, it has to go.

That happens when any weapon hits you, it's just more noticeable when your hit by something with a much more impact like a Mass Driver, Grenade, Plasma Cannon, or Forge Gun.

...This dude is so dumb I'm going to just lol at the fact you're in Zion and troll you from now on. I have massive respect for discussion, but you're failing at that.

You know, you can always change up your strategy. Don't engage a MD head on if they have a height advantage, count the rounds and rush them when they reload, use a TAC AR to wreck them at a range, try to get a height advantage, don't hide in the corner... all these different tactics are viable and fun because the MD for forces you to do something different than goin full Rambo with your 60 round plasma hose that's still the best all around weapon in the game. Seriously, I put the MD down to appease a QQer in my squad, complaining that I didn't deserve my "cheap" kills and pulled out an Exile with 0 sp. Did you know these things are hit scan, have almost 0 recoil and nonexistent dispersion? I barely had to ADS because it was so easy. Only thing I couldn't go toe-to-toe with were Duvolles inside 40m. Only noob tube I see in dust has 60 rounds in the clip. ****ing easy mode if you ask me...

...This dude is so dumb I'm going to just lol at the fact you're in Zion and troll you from now on. I have massive respect for discussion, but you're failing at that.

everything else aside... because i'm off for dinner, and all that , and yes discussion sometimes needs things ....discussed... but all that aside..

you didnt find "The FG problem was created by AR users who demanded that the HMG have the range of a baseball and the initial accuracy of an epileptic performing brain surgery with a hammer." funny??????

lol'd irl +1

No...I could be wrong, but when I get hit by a FG or grenade my aim isn't ****** up..not sure about Plasma Cannon. But yeah Especially ADS the md makes it tough to aim with the wobble.

Yes, lol at my corp. That will change everything.

But lets play the hypothetical game.

Reducing the MD ammo doesn't change anything, unless you make it a single shot. Which would be great if your goal is to have no one use the MD.

It has a limited range, but you could shorten it, but then good players would just use it to airburst over your squad, and oh the tears that would bring.

You could reduce the splash damage, but then it doesn't function effectively as an AoE weapon.

You could reduce the splash radius, same problem as above.

You could change flux counts, but considering that it is one of only two shield effective weapons, unless you are the champion of shields 514, that harms diversity.

So really, the only viable solution is to laugh at you for crying like a little girl and tell you to HTFU.

Umm...why do I only know you on the forums...and never see you in game? At least I remember playing attorney general and free healing was on the other night....just an honest question as I play at virtually all different parts of the days depending...

Probably because there's 4500 players on average and I don't play when I'm capped. Hope you're not trying to use not seeing me as leverage in in argument because its pretty sad.

If it killed in 1 hit I would agree with you but usually it takes more than a whole clip before I die so either you strictly run a mlt gal light frame how do you die in 1 hit?

Do I look like you're average troll? Dude I'm such a bad troll; trolling for me is telling you I'm going to troll you...

I'm just surprised I've never seen you in months. I've even seen colonel killar, what channels do you chill in?

Grenade Launcher should be an attachable mod for the AR, with a powerful single shoot, high reload time, and only 3 grenades....but... ohh... wait.. CRAP !! i have to run.. the CoD haters just hear me....

AR actually did have a noob tube in earlier tech demos, back when there were only 2 character models and one map.

And let me guess ...the CoD haters started to complain, and they removed the Launcher because was to "FPS" like, right ?

Nerf ALL splash.
Gernades are too strong. Most MD players camp hard on roofs or sit back and cook fluxes. Less shots will nerf the roof campers, but just make the ground campers play even *****ier.

Nerf fluxes and it will be legit. Make gernades consume double the nanohive clusters they do now, and have all gernades capped out at 2 (Except for contact. 1 is probably fine, if not 0)

Grenade Launcher should be an attachable mod for the AR, with a powerful single shoot, high reload time, and only 3 grenades....but... ohh... wait.. CRAP !! i have to run.. the CoD haters just hear me....