facepalm.

Really are we trying to put the suits into boxed in roles. While we are at it why not weapon restrictions. After all i hear heavies should only carry heavy weapons. Perhaps we should also prevent logis from using any dmg mods since they shouldnt be trying to kill at all. OH oh i know lets also make it so scouts can only use snipers and assaults can only use rifles and pistols while we are at it.

Thats how killzone, battlefield, socom, rainbox 6 and every other squad/class based shooter does it.

Most other games with classes never give their medics superior guns though.

Maybe the whole class is wrong, because every other class is wrong and Logi is the only right class there is.

H'mm I could have sworn they did... but they do still learn other support spells, such as haste or temper. I think we can all agree that while he can support the team, the Balck Mage's role is usually not that of support role.

Logi's if anything are red mages, and they should not ever be made mere support characters.

Superior guns, where? You mean our damage mods? The same ones with stacking penalties? Nothing a 2% damage bonus per level for assault suits wouldn't fix.

And false, Shana and Meru (the medics) have the single highest damage potential in The Legend of Dragoon.

replacing their broadswords with fencing swords

... If that's code for "sidearms" then tell me now so I can just be a Proto Amarr Basic next respec.

I am just saying most other class shooter games gives their medics carbines, smgs, pistols, or needle guns/crossbows instead of rocket launchers, vulcan cannons, or assault rifles.

No balance changes have been announced or asked for from CCP if you're wondering. However you should avoid going into classes just because they are currently 'overpowered' because of the impending nerfs. If you are a long time CCP player you should always expect the top dog in the game to get nerfed or outclassed by the previously worst option, it has always happened and will continue to happen.

If you're trying to get me to spec into scout suits then it ain't happening bro

I have seen lots of Cal logis are OP threads and they have the numbers to back it up but please someone tell me this, What makes the other 3 race logi's OP?

Funnily enough everytime I have asked this question one of the following happens 1. I get ignored and people say Cal logi = OP so nerf all logis. 2. People say logis are all OP and need to be able to only use sidearms without giving reasoning behind this.

I use the Minmatar logi and the bottom line is if they nerf the entire logistics class just because the Caldari (which the scrambler rifle was designed for) doesn't have a sustainable effective counter yet and the assault bonuses pale in comparison, I quit. Nerfing an entire class before an actual meta game can take place and adjusting the other suits is a sign of laziness as a developer and my time and money would be better spent somewhere else.

If you ever played a mmo FF with red mages you'll get why they're closest thing to logis, their flexibility is indisputable and that is where I am strongly so disagreement in a nerf alternative that lowers their fittings vs replacing their broadswords with fencing swords instead.

I am just saying once the scrambler rifle forces the caldari logi to fall out of favor most people will be swapping to the gallente logistics to meet thier needs.

I am just saying once the scrambler rifle forces the caldari logi to fall out of favor most people will be swapping to the gallente logistics to meet thier needs.

I am just saying once the scrambler rifle forces the caldari logi to fall out of favor most people will be swapping to the gallente logistics to meet thier needs.

The Gallenet Logi can either stack armor plates which would make it slower, or kinetic mods, which would make it faster but more fragile than it's Assault counterpart. It's not comparable to the difference between the Cladari suits because most of their HP doesn't recover as easily. The Gallente suit does have a small advantage because of it's built-in armor repper, but not enough to save them considering how small their shield buffer is anyway, their speed is what makes or breaks those suits.

And yes, we know that one day there will be plates with no penalties.

Here's a true sign that you're wrong this time IWS. I'm agreeing with Keyser. @.@

I am just saying once the scrambler rifle forces the caldari logi to fall out of favor most people will be swapping to the gallente logistics to meet thier needs.

You know, if they didn't nerf the HMG and make the other suits suck, we wouldn't be here. Before suggesting to punish an entire class to be nerfed, look at your own and ask yourself if those bonuses are worth keeping.

You know, he actually does know what he's talking about when he isn't trolling are spreading Imp propaganda