Because the caldari logistics is not the only problem, its all four of them being > assaults.

Because they're better than assault suits are at their own job. That surely wasn't worth a million isk?

Are you complaining that people want a support class to be a support class?
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This. ur bias is showing when you make this argument. u also lose credibility. logis now have their specialty as no other class gets more than 1 equip slot. there's no reason to go assault when logis will have more slots and equip than you. logis need less high and low than assaults of the same class. now those of you who want to stack damage & shield mods and use it like an uber assault wont like this but no reasonable person would argue it.

proto caldari logi should be 3/2 with 3 equip slots

Black Mages in final fantasy traditionally never learned 'healing' spells unless you consider Drain Drainra Drainga a heal spell but drain doesnt really spread the gained hp elsewhere. Red mages (Red Velvet is a combination of vanillia and chocolate) are white and black mixed. So its natural they learn some heal spells from on of thier parents.

Coupled with the fact that the amarr logi can hit something like 115 amor hp/s when being hit by a repair tool, and like 30-40/s without one?

oh I get it, anything to keep your slots.

TBH... None of the suits in uprising are 'Fine'. Just because everything is broken, doesn't mean they're balanced.
Rather than buff every weapon, nerfing and tweaking the suits back down to the original baseline is the better option.

The caladari 750 total shields is OP sonsidering it allows them to stack 2 damage mods and still have more HP than my Galante Assault.

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Why would you REMOVE equipment slots from a LOGI. That is our main thing, equipment. Without that extra slot, we are basically an assault.

I honestly agree. A new baseline needs to be established. We are beyond the time for slow and steady tweaks. When pretty much nothing in your game is in a good place and no clear baseline exists... Drastic, system-wise changes to establish a new baseline are necessary.

Versatility is included in having equipment. If you want to get all holier-than-thou and stuck up on every other type. You aren't going to survive. Everyone needs everyone in Dust. If you can't handle that then please leave the Logi community, and don't get butter on the door.

easy answer: because he doesnt need them. he plays the class as assault so equip slots make no difference.

I'm saying if they run 3 complex shield extenders and 2 damage mods they still have more effective HP than armor charecters. (If they want to runn a decent repper.

Most other games with classes never give their medics superior guns though.

Maybe the whole class is wrong, because every other class is wrong and Logi is the only right class there is.

replacing their broadswords with fencing swords

No balance changes have been announced or asked for from CCP if you're wondering. However you should avoid going into classes just because they are currently 'overpowered' because of the impending nerfs. If you are a long time CCP player you should always expect the top dog in the game to get nerfed or outclassed by the previously worst option, it has always happened and will continue to happen.

I have seen lots of Cal logis are OP threads and they have the numbers to back it up but please someone tell me this, What makes the other 3 race logi's OP?

Funnily enough everytime I have asked this question one of the following happens 1. I get ignored and people say Cal logi = OP so nerf all logis. 2. People say logis are all OP and need to be able to only use sidearms without giving reasoning behind this.

I am just saying once the scrambler rifle forces the caldari logi to fall out of favor most people will be swapping to the gallente logistics to meet thier needs.

Here's a true sign that you're wrong this time IWS. I'm agreeing with Keyser. @.@

Some of you are also forgetting how much more powerful of a fit is possible once you start leaving equipment slots empty slayer fits only need 1-2 equipment used.

Doing so allows you to upgrade some other modules in this swiss army knife fit.

So I did more maths, and including the the passives that leads them to having 101.4 PG
Minus 55 for the extenders and you have 46.4.

That's more than enough to put some decent gear on there. The Balacs I believe is 13 PG? The most fitting expensive Nano-hive is 16 PG. With those two you have 17.4 PG left, that should fit you a complex kinetic module and a basic armor repair module or shield regulator. Or you can get a power grid upgrade so you can put some grenades and more equipment.

Now, that isn't the most optimal fitting, but it certainly has a lot of possibilities.

H: Shield extender 54 CPU / 11PG
H: Shield extender 54 CPU / 11PG
H: Shield extender 54 CPU / 11PG
H: Shield extender 54 CPU / 11PG
H: Shield extender 54 CPU / 11 PG

Total = 270 CPU/ 55 PG

L: Complex Shield Regulator 35 CPU/ 3 PG
L: Complex Kinetic mod 27 CPU/ 15 PG
L:Basic Armor Repairer 20 CPU / 1 PG
L: Basic CPU Upgrade = 16% more CPU

Total = 83 CPU / 19 CPU

LW: Balac: 90 CPU 13 PG
G: Core Locus grenade 48 CPU / 6 PG
Or Allotek Flux 52 CPU / 6 PG

Total: 138 or 142 CPU / 19 PG

E: Ishkone Gauged Nano Hive: 59 CPU / 11PG
E: Blank
E: Blank

Total: 59 CPU /11 PG

CPU Available: 507 / PG available: 101.4

Total CPU Used: 550 or 554 CPU / PG used: 104

But that doesn't fit right? Except 507 x 1.16 = 588.12

Still not enough PG right? Assault Rifle Fitting skill(whatever it's called 13 x .25 = 3.25
104 - 3.25 = 100.75

So all this just barely fit, but is it really that much better than what can be done with a Caldari Assault Suit?

Edit:
Without CL bonus:
Caldari Assault: 412.5 + 290.4 =702.9 EHP
Caldari Logistics:337.5 + 363 = 700.5 EHP

With CL Bonus: 337.5 + 445.5 = 783 EHP
783(L) - 702.9(A) = 80.1 HP difference.

My god, this is game breaking

Edit: Now if you used a complex CPU Upgrade, and replaced the Basic Armor repairer with a PG Upgrade, then you would be able to fill your other equipment slots, but I want all assault users to realize that this is far more expensive than your suit would ever get.